I need help choosing a dog.
I just bought a house with an acre of land and want to get a dog, but I'm having a hard time choosing a breed I like. My family has had dogs but not very trainable breeds, so I want something I can train to do tricks and fetch, can put up with a decent amount of exercise since I walk a few miles every day, long lived/inherently decent health for the breed, decently responsible off leash, can chill out at the end of the day and cuddle up on the couch, preferably short or low maintenance coat and prick ears are the only really aesthetics I care about.
Also I live alone for now, work 8hrs a day but only 2 miles from home so I come home for lunch, but otherwise the dog wont be supervised during that time, I am going to fence in the whole yard shortly so the dog won't be locked in the house all day.
I've had friends recommend gsd's since they hit a lot of those points, but they are one of the worst shedders and don't have the longest life spans, not to mention the horrible sloped spines and hip issues. Another friend has three huskies and, could hook me up with his breeder, they are supper cuddly but aren't into fetching or any of that and are terrible off leash.
I'm kind of lost as to which direction to go so I could use all of your 2 cents.
German shepherds are intelligent and easily trainable they’re also velcro dogs so you never have to worry about your GSD taking off randomly and abandoning you to go kill the neighbors cat/chickens like a shit husky
their loyalty can’t be matched and their dedication to their family is something to admire and you never have to worry about strangers again people take a look at your GSD and don’t wanna fuck with you especially if trained to do a scary bark at strangers
i personally have a GSD and she is my world she’s nondestructive and quiet only barks when she feels something is sketchy and super social once she knows someone is good she will lay down her life for you
Just whatever you do be fucking careful about getting a shelter GSD because they can come with a lot of issues i only recommend you get one if you have experience with the breed and training out bad behavior
Thank god you said GSD i almost forgot it was a german shepherd “dog” instead of the equally well known german shepherd ferret
GSD is the proper term that german shepherd owners/breeders use
That would be deutschlanderschaeferhundedieschutzpupperoninenschau
Just call them Alsatians so you don't have to keep reminding yourself of their unfortunate nazi history
>unfortunate
the only unfortunate thing is how it ended.
All you need to do is look at who owns every major news station and corporation on the planet to see why.
The irish?
there are theoretically german shepherd who are humans
>german shepherd ferret
I now want this to be real!
pic related.
>I've had friends recommend gsd
Too many health risks from inbreeding. Personally I'd get a collie, or a collie mix.
Very smart.
>single cherry picked webm means all huskies are bad
I can do the same for pibbles.
>single webm
>actually multiple clips of multiple huskies just being assholes
Such is the degenerative brain disorder called 'liking huskies'.
Who said that's bad behavior
the husky is clearly a prisoner who has grown to hate his fellow "dogs" for how gladly they accept their fate
>these floppy faced unquestioningly subservient retards
>they disgust me
Huskies are cat people in dog form, and husky owners are cat people who got tired of litterboxes and retardation.
>nooo animals always have to be slaves because they just do okay
In absence of sledding (which only happens half the year) huskies are great for protecting your property from animals and tracking/flushing game, but they're actually pretty affectionate with people, even strangers, and normally only alarm bark if someone is entering your property instead of yapping if they're across the street.
That they're not the most obedient, praise-driven "i love you master oh my GAWD" dog on earth isn't really relevant unless you have a severe self esteem deficiency and need something to worship you.
poor boy probably feels like he's living out a variation on the shadow over innsmouth and is waiting for the part where the other dogs start turning into cows and return to their ancestral pastures
>Huskey
>Eats another dog's food
>Pibbles
>Eats a baby
Totally the same.
I leave Peter home 9 hours a day for work, 2 walks an hour length a day and super trainable, he's 9 months and he knows a bunch of tricks and commands including attack my GF
why and how would one train a dog to attack a gf?
>including attack my GF
I'm planning on getting a dog and training it to sit on my GF.
>having a girlfriend
get the fuck off my board normie
he never mentioned what species the girlfriend is, two jealous dogs getting into fights when the owner leaves them alone is a pretty common problem
It's very simple, you get the one with the biggest, most accommodating anus.
wrong hole idiot
I frequently dog sit a couple of labs. The owner has 50 acres so I've never put a leash on them. One of them is a 4 month old puppy, Incredibly obedient and quiet for a pup. She can be a bit naughty but learns quick. The older dog is amazing, he always listens when I call him over, if I tell him to not touch something or not go somewhere he also listens, I've only ever heard him growl once, and that was because the puppy tried to bite his face.
The main issue with labs is they seem to have a slightly shorter lifespan and are prone to tumors, but are great dogs overall. Most of these people like huskies because they are gross animal fuckers.
Ironic you would say that because labs are larger and way more eager to please, and for the longest time the only certified dogfucker on Wauf was the owner of a female black lab.
Labs are THE dog that is most likely to eat shit. Literally. They're so food motivated it's like they have no personality but "listen" (because they're so desperate for food they'll jump off a cliff hoping this time you'll give them some).
Caribbean Potcake dogs have a really calm demeanor and can be left alone pretty easily. They are pretty hardy, although not great at tricks
Hmm. Strange niche. You might want to make a concession here or there. Sounds like you would do well with a bird dog with a decent sized yard and they typically have shorter coats and usually love fetch (outside of setters they are like 1/3 but have long coats anyway). Ever considered a Britt? Not a crazy long coat (short hair tends to stick much more and needs in stuff worse than medium hair that lays on top) that doesn’t shed too bad, love fetch, friendly and trainable little critters, and a pleasure to look at imo.
What's your climate like? I think you sort of sound like you want a dachshund though. I know you said you wanted prick ears, but you're wrong. Dachshund.
Not a mini either. Fill size.
Educate yourself on IVDD before getting a dachshund or any dog with a long spine
I've heard standard sized poodles are super intelligent, very easily trainable and pretty healthy dogs. Plus, they basically don't shed at all. If the appearance is what puts you off keep in mind it depends on what clip you give them.
Poodles don’t tend to be the cuddly type
I don't like their coat at all, I like short coats because they're easier to clean and maintain, a poodle would be constant maintenance.
coastal New England, humid hot summers, long spring and fall, wet cold winter
Eh, I'd probably go with a working line lab over the more complicated hunting breeds if I'm going with a flop eared dog.
Eh. I wouldn’t necessarily call pointers more complicated. More hyper and rambunctious with a tendency towards more issues that come along with that energy but labs are hard to argue with. They’re just a fucking joy to be around mostly.
Went to the park and this lady had one of these dogs. Seemed like a nice dog.
But apparently it didnt think I was nice, because it ran up to me and barked. Very agressive. I guess I look scary because I'm tall? I was just walking the park trail.
Lady was very apologetic, "he's never done that before". It was a big dog so I was frightened to be honest.
I appreciate all the suggestions so far, I got to hit the hay, but I'll be back in the AM.
white swiss shepherds are goodass dogs, get one of those
Sure if you like anxious neurotic wrecks that are afraid of their own shadows
that's an aesthetic dog, what's the difference between one of these and a white gsd?
I'm not against getting a mix, but I want a puppy since all my families previous dogs were rescues, and most of the shelters around here are just pit bulls, amstaff, bully mixes because there are only no-kill shelters here, and many bring in dogs from kill shelters. The reason I'm picking out specific breeds though is that they are known quantities when it comes to health, temperament, exercise needs. I would get a mix potentially if I had enough info on the temperament and breed of the parents and their health.
That is a top tier dog in the pic. If only I had the time, money, and space for such a good boy/girl.
it looks very fancy, and maybe husky genes cancel out some of the health issues gsd's have
Not all Gsd breeds have the back thing. Thats mostly a show dog thing. As far as I know working line dogs still have good backs. Mix a husky and one of those and you got one hell of a hound.
I'll definitely have that as an option if I see one I like, that is also a reasonable distance from me, sometimes I see dogs listed online, but they're all the way across the country and I don't want to have a dog shipped to me, I'd like to see them in person first and even have my pick of the litter.
>what's the difference between one of these and a white gsd?
Swiss Shepherds ARE SOME white GSDs. They're a spin-off breed selected for coat color and often the working traits that make GSDs edgy are selected against for the purpose of making the lines more family friendly.
>what's the difference
Not many, all white-coated German Shepherd Dogs can register as Swiss Shepherds yet no Swiss Shepherds can register as German Shepherd Dogs because they are a Herding Mixed Breed Dog.
I'm having a hard time even searching for them on most sites.
>I'm not against getting a mix
Mixes are objectively the best dogs. Just pick two breeds that share the traits you want but you avoid all the recessive health issues from inbreeding.
>Just pick two breeds that share the traits you want but you avoid all the recessive health issues from inbreeding.
Jezus Christo, is that what they teach in HS biology these days?
>Most border collies you can find outside of europe
some of the best BC, AS, HTCD, McNab etc. are currently being "produced" and worked in the US in real world, tough as fuark settings:
All of them are deprecated toy animals
>All of them are deprecated toy animals
nobody is making you get one, look at one, talk about them etc. - why are you so salty? did one steal your gf?
they're also cheaper than a purebred plus you won't have to deal with fuckwit breeders trying to desex the dogs before you get them to stop you stealing muh bloodline.
Can't believe nobody has said yjk
Get the German Pinscher /dog/bro
https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/german-pinscher/
That DCM though. I don't know about OP, but I'd feel pretty awful if my seemingly healthy dog just up prematurely from its heart giving out.
Russell Terrier
Parson Russel Terrier
German Pinscher
Harrier
Dogo Argentino
Dogs matched to own a dog in the past, 6-10 hours of training a week, high activity level, infrequent shedding, no kids under 10, and large yard.
Border Collie
I didn't bother mentioning it but my home insurance has a banned dog list so even if I wanted a Doberman which I don't I couldn't get one.
>Alaskan malamute, siberian husky
Lmao fucking what? Because of people lying about wolf hybrids? The ones that aren't blatantly 1/4 wolf are safer than most hunting breeds.
>Shepherds (all types)
Oops you adopted a collie your insurance is null and void
>saint bernard
Lmao. Fucking. What?
>Doberman
Seriously fucking what? They have fewer bites than labs.
Just lie to them.
>chow
Really WTF why?
Easy bypass: German Pinscher > Doberman and it fits your lifestyle more specifically.
Snakes are venomous easy loop hole
>insurance company can tell you what breeds you can own
imagine being an american
yeah, and I could choose a different insurer, and there's even an alternative state backed plan for people who can't get insurance otherwise like people who own a pitbull which very few companies will insure.
>GSD
>Belgian Shepherd
>Border Collie
>Australian Shepherd
>English Shepherd
>Australian Cattle Dog
>Australian Kelpie
>Scotch Collie
get a husky, name it naggerman
Any dog you get that will work well in that environment will also need a tall fence with deeply embedded anti-digging defenses. That said, a border collie is highly trainable and would love to have an acre to explore. Make sure to leave lots of puzzles for him while you're gone.
Man up and get a husky anyways
Nothing is more rewarding than earning the love of a dog that doesn't need you. Especially the females, they're a bit smarter and more independent than the males, so if a girl is clingy you know you did good and earned a special place in her heart.
I do like how entertaining huskies can be with their quirky personalities, but it would be so much nicer to have something more trainable.
Do you want a friend or a house slave? If you just want something to lord over get a golden retriever like every other normie. If you want something you feel guilty for saying you "own", huskies will be there for you. It's not like they're going to get to live in the arctic if you don't adopt them, rather, they'll be shipped off to kill shelters to make room for more pitbulls.
this is so true that it's aggravating
I'll probably get two dogs, maybe one will be a husky, but I still want a breed that takes well to training.
Husky for funsies
Reverse mask DDR german shepherd for larping as adolf
>GSD
With contingencies!
>Belgian shepherd
Most of them were ruined by attack/protection dog breeding, just GSDs on crack now
>Border collie
>Australian shepherd
>English shepherd
>Scotch collie
All bad. Bad bad bad. I don't in any way condone the ownership of collies. Their bloodlines have accumulate genetic disorders unironically named after them in pursuit of peak herding performance beyond what any farm asked for (if anything the champion dogs are on too much crack for most farmers) and now it's all pointless since we can herd sheep in real world conditions using fucking drones. Oh and australian shepherds are the fucking worst. They're everything wrong with collies genetically rolled into one and anyone breeding a dog carrying merle, bobtail, MDR, epilepsy, collie collapse disorder, or collie eye anomaly should be shot. Meanwhile aussie breeders are constantly flipping their shit over disqualifying colors and ears, not stopping to notice that if an unsanctioned breeding between two random aussies might in severely ill, miscarried, and stillborn pups, maybe you need to fix your fucking dogs!
the problem imo with gsd's is navigating all of the health issues, such high rates of dogs with joint issues I'd really have to trust that the breeder took good care to breed for health which doesn't seem to be the trend with gsd's
also the belgian would be nice if they weren't so bitey.
notice that shepherds, huskies, malamutes are in the TENANT OCCUPIED category they probably had too many claims from rentals where dogs tore the place up or were territorial to new renters in the cases of some of the other breeds.
Oh yes, malamutes and huskies really do not take well to meeting strange adult dogs and need very slow and careful introductions. It would be called dog aggression but it's a very conditional and slowly escalating behavior instead of reactivity going into an attack the same minute. At first they really try to maintain their distance and warn the other dogs off. At dog parks, huskies appear awkward and antisocial, not interested in really engaging with most dogs. They might play half assedly and then leave and hide away from all the action. And if the other dog doesn't take the hint they snarl and snap to try and get them to "fuck off right now", but won't go further than that, and as the days drag on, with the two dogs trapped together because their owner hopes they'll be best friends, the sled dog gets sicker and sicker of this strange homosexual trying to muscle its way into their pack and remembers that they have one of the strongest bites of all dogs. A lot of other breeds also don't seem to "get" huskies and malamutes. The sled dogs have more adult body language and manners, most dogs are more playful and in your face, which really pisses off the malamute or whatever and confuses the lab or whatever.
Sometimes they run into another husky or a dog that "gets it" (usually another serious business working breed that's more wolflike) and they play fight while making the most horrifying noises and acting like they are actively trying to kill each other, and then they're best friends.
If you ever get on with another dog, make sure at least one is a puppy, or another sled dog.
Every time you see someone with a spitz and non-spitz it's a herding dog.
But hey, a collie is just a wolf with a college degree.
>Most of them were ruined by attack/protection dog breeding, just GSDs on crack now
the BS, kek, is 4 breeds. the Malinois may be at times problematic but if you can handle a well bred hunting dog like a Weimaraner, Viszla, BGSH, Cur etc. you can handle a regular Malinois. as with all dogs, you need to research the parents and breeder and see what's what. but no, the average Mal will not kill you... t's a great dog for the dedicated dog fancier and you will not be getting a crazy Mondioring IPSC dog by accident without looking for one anyway...
but ofc there a psychopath breeders, as always. jsut recently I canme across a breeder's description of what he does that said, literally, he does not care for "good nerves" because that usually gets in the way of drive and drive was his foremost drive. kek. his dogs are optimized tools and supposed to function then and there, not accessories for polite society. sounded to me like a major COPE as his line was just not healthy to function so he came up with a walltext to console himself...
>also the belgian would be nice if they weren't so bitey.
they like to bite but that is a feature allowing you to train them better. any dog with drive, of whatever sort, can be mre easily trained to be bomb proof using that exact drive compared to a dog that really can not reliably be channeled.
I like a lot of things about the Belgian malinois, but in the odd case were I wasn't able to exercise the dog adequately due to life circumstances happening like they sometimes do, I don't want to worry about that pent up energy coming out as biting. I don't see many anons here with them either.
>I don't in any way condone the ownership of collies.
They are severely overbred and their health is suffering. FYI there are no genetic tests for epilepsy, you simply neuter the dog, ALL its siblings, and its parents. Few collie breeders are willing. Once a bloodlibe is overbred this shit shows up more and more - sooner or later the only cure is the immediate termination of the entire bloodline. Imagine that, nearly every single australian shepherd sterilized, the breed considered over for being in violation of "torture breeding" laws. Collie collapse disorder is itself a form of epilepsy.
I do not in any way condone the ownership and breeding of collies. And going off your ever recognizable typing style and reused images - aren't you that "dead aussie fgt" who "ofc..." bred his own dysgenic "UNTERHUND" dog "..." and got it killed?
if collies are so unhealthy why do they live so long? two of the 3 longest living dogs in record history (25+) years were collies
I bet your preferrred breed barely makes it to 12 lol
There's a huge difference between border collie like herding mutts and the inbred neurotic results of trialshomosexualry and benchhomosexualry today. Breedhomosexualry gets it all wrong unless you want to redefine breed. It's the bloodline, not the breed.
Most border collies you can find outside of europe are going to be the result of 100 generations of cousin fucking and certifiably autistic. This is also true of GSDs. People go out of their way to import european puppies to get a healthier, longer lived dog. Euros get the good ones. It's the opposite with breeds of american origin. The US gets more genetic diversity and true working mutts and europe gets show dogs unless they want to import, so we get 17 year old malamutes and europe gets some ugly husky mastiff things that fall apart at 10.
i knew an 18 year old husky once
t. borgar
My childhood dog was a blue merle australian shepherd. Lived 16 years, no health problems aside from alot of weight loss near the end of her life.
i dont know, hope to have helped
I want you to know that I hate you
>screams like bloody murder when happy to see you
>does not listen unless it wants to or you have food
>will escape, chase everything and likely get shot if your neighbors are farmers
Their very pretty but as dogs go they are terrible. More like furry disobedient children.
>muh breeds
Get a mutt from the pound so it isn't chock-full of physical and psychological disorders caused by dysgenic breeding practices, the necessary conclusion of virtually all human-guided breed development. It will be more easily trainable and have a better temperament than basically any full-bred dog you'll find.
t. literally trains ranch dogs, the only ones not completely broken by genetic health issues before they graciously expire are the ones which have been mixed with something else within 2 generations
There it is - the cat-person ad dog owner, the human being that is so damaged they think an animal is their equal.
Most mutts from the pound are shitbulls.
>source: my ass
Even if that is the case where you live, don't get a pit-mix then, retard. It's not as if they don't have one of the most easily recognizable set of physical characteristics of all dog breeds.
Don't tell me you're one of those people who thinks they know dogs but has to have a vet (incorrectly) tell them the breed. You're not that person, right?
>train to do tricks and fetch
>decently responsible off leash
A husky does not do this
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Those eyes I can look into them forever.