The long neck wasn't for vertical reach.
One sauropod can stand in one spot and it can use its long neck to graze on everything in reach.
It was also a counterbalance for their tails which were used defensively. They would have been able to crack the tips of their tail like a whip.
>They would have been able to crack the tips of their tail like a whip.
their tails didn't have the structural integrity to survive rapid bending at the speed of sound. The bones would've just popped out and flew across the countryside
>One sauropod can stand in one spot and it can use its long neck to graze on everything in reach.
I never bought this stupid theory. Animals don't evolve long necks to just...keep feeding from the ground. >It was also a counterbalance for their tails
In brachiosaurs, mamenchisaurs and titanosaurs, the neck was much longer than the tail. Way overkill for what would've been needed for counterbalance. >They would have been able to crack the tips of their tail like a whip
Diplodocids could, to a point, but the others couldn't.
That's why I said "to a point". They had longer tails than other sauropds that tapered off to a point. I have little doubt they could swing their tails around at predators. Cracking them like whips at actual whip speed, probably not so much.
ostriches, camels, llama have long neck and they feed off the ground, giraffes are the only exception, because it turns out having a long neck is really useful for things other than eating.
the neck was also relatively light, its actually much easier to make something heavier than it is lighter, it having more muscle and being less hollow allows it to even out
So why doesn't every herbivore lineage evolve a 40 foot neck then? Why was this only apparently selected for in sauropods?
12 months ago
Anonymous
because sauropods get fucking huge super fast, which is their defense, like elephants or giraffes, and when you get that big, you dont want to move your entire body constantly, the energy loss is exponentially higher rather than scaling normally relative it its size
12 months ago
Anonymous
Your post made me think how crazy it is that life evolved into these gigantic things and, now, they are all gone.
12 months ago
Anonymous
what if
hold on
wait a second
what if they got really tall
what if they got really tall so carnivorous dinosaurs couldn't reach their necks?
and then got really long necks so their tall asses could reach food on the ground?
>be carnivore >bite the sauropod's tail, get it infected >wait for it to fall off >sauropod now can't keep its head up, can't move or feed properly, die
maybe have others across the planet also exist, their stumps hidden as mountains or something over these years. they sprout too, and it brings the metaphysical back to earth, so that the things described in old religions can start to happen again. new gods are born from the fruit of the trees.
We live in such a ruined world that most moderns don't even realize that only a few centuries ago there were absolutely massive trees compared to what we have now. A lot of people don't even realize that most "virgin forests" in the West have actually almost all been totally logged by now. Even in places like the Appalachians the rangers and park services will say things like "this forest has never been logged". That's a lie.
man, this would make a good video game universe.
maybe have a god seed in it hatch, and a new world tree starts to grow up out of it. the original was cut by some interfering force, and the seed within has been feeding on the stump all this time and is ready to sprout.
maybe have others across the planet also exist, their stumps hidden as mountains or something over these years. they sprout too, and it brings the metaphysical back to earth, so that the things described in old religions can start to happen again. new gods are born from the fruit of the trees.
The long neck wasn't for vertical reach.
One sauropod can stand in one spot and it can use its long neck to graze on everything in reach.
It was also a counterbalance for their tails which were used defensively. They would have been able to crack the tips of their tail like a whip.
>They would have been able to crack the tips of their tail like a whip.
their tails didn't have the structural integrity to survive rapid bending at the speed of sound. The bones would've just popped out and flew across the countryside
wouldn't that neck be way too big to counterbalance the tail?
>One sauropod can stand in one spot and it can use its long neck to graze on everything in reach.
I never bought this stupid theory. Animals don't evolve long necks to just...keep feeding from the ground.
>It was also a counterbalance for their tails
In brachiosaurs, mamenchisaurs and titanosaurs, the neck was much longer than the tail. Way overkill for what would've been needed for counterbalance.
>They would have been able to crack the tips of their tail like a whip
Diplodocids could, to a point, but the others couldn't.
>Diplodocids could, to a point, but the others couldn't.
there's no real reason to believe Diplodocids could
That's why I said "to a point". They had longer tails than other sauropds that tapered off to a point. I have little doubt they could swing their tails around at predators. Cracking them like whips at actual whip speed, probably not so much.
a lot of them were mostly eating grass, turns out theyre not like giraffes whose neck is so fucked they cant bend it down
Grass did not exist in the mesozoic era.
it did in the cretaceous period, and even then theres still ground plants like ferns and bushes before then
ostriches, camels, llama have long neck and they feed off the ground, giraffes are the only exception, because it turns out having a long neck is really useful for things other than eating.
the neck was also relatively light, its actually much easier to make something heavier than it is lighter, it having more muscle and being less hollow allows it to even out
There's ostrich/camel "long" and then there's sauropod long. No animal evolves a 30-40 foot neck just to graze off the ground further away from it.
they did, because having you move your entire body is incredibility inefficient, when you can just move your neck
So why doesn't every herbivore lineage evolve a 40 foot neck then? Why was this only apparently selected for in sauropods?
because sauropods get fucking huge super fast, which is their defense, like elephants or giraffes, and when you get that big, you dont want to move your entire body constantly, the energy loss is exponentially higher rather than scaling normally relative it its size
Your post made me think how crazy it is that life evolved into these gigantic things and, now, they are all gone.
what if
hold on
wait a second
what if they got really tall
what if they got really tall so carnivorous dinosaurs couldn't reach their necks?
and then got really long necks so their tall asses could reach food on the ground?
you should get a novel price
have you ever seen a tree? Anyway heres some big ass fossil trees in comparison to the heaviest Dinosaur known
*blocks your path*
>>trees were the same size as today
You mean absolutely massive? You sound like you've never seen an adult oak tree in your life.
There are trees today that would be too tall for them to feed on.
jesus chris that bee in the top left is gigantic!
>be carnivore
>bite the sauropod's tail, get it infected
>wait for it to fall off
>sauropod now can't keep its head up, can't move or feed properly, die
Checkmate, longnecks
The problem of that is keeping such a large prey for yourself
>such a large prey
stop being esl
>be carnivore
>go to bite sauropod's tail
>get whipped
>die
Sauropods could be quite formidable, true.
I like this but the face kinda ruins it ngl
>you will never be able to snap her choker
>Doesn't have a thirty-foot erection.
Pathetic.
>>get whipped
go naenae
https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Petricite_Tree
We live in such a ruined world that most moderns don't even realize that only a few centuries ago there were absolutely massive trees compared to what we have now. A lot of people don't even realize that most "virgin forests" in the West have actually almost all been totally logged by now. Even in places like the Appalachians the rangers and park services will say things like "this forest has never been logged". That's a lie.
how tall do you think trees are?
trees were super giant back then, there's still some petrified trees all around the world
BASED RETARD
Looked this up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Tower
There's no indication that this is a fossil tree. It sure is an impressive rock formation, though.
It has rings and bark.
No it doesn't. It's volcanic rock
It’s a schizo conspiracy theory
It's a fun one though.
Doesn’t this guy live in there
where is this from?
Three Headed Monster 1988, he lived in that mountain thing in the film
man, this would make a good video game universe.
maybe have a god seed in it hatch, and a new world tree starts to grow up out of it. the original was cut by some interfering force, and the seed within has been feeding on the stump all this time and is ready to sprout.
maybe have others across the planet also exist, their stumps hidden as mountains or something over these years. they sprout too, and it brings the metaphysical back to earth, so that the things described in old religions can start to happen again. new gods are born from the fruit of the trees.
Ori and the blind forest is similar
This means something.
This is important.
This tree was cut.
that's a big butte
for you
Bros... I want to believe...
Why don't americans have trees?
>Trees were the same size as today
Trees today are huge, you moron
At some point these dinosaurs just wanted to show off.
He ain't gonna be showing off to anyone with that virgin posture.