factory farms Posted on August 24, 2022 by Anonymous we've all seen the propaganda. is it still bad or has it gotten better?
It seems they've managed to solve the woody breast issue, so I'd say better, at least texture wise.
I prefer free range organic products because I believe it's healthier but chicken would cost way too much if that's all there was.
The chickens don't seem to mind this machine:
...they probably like the slaughtering less though.
>a nice air conditioned ride to your death
factory farmed animals produce inferior product, that's all that matters. Chickens fed only grain produce objectively inferior eggs, chickens with access to forage, greens, insects, etc produce eggs with rich orange yolks, the flavor is objectively superior and the nutrition is peerless. I can't go back to yellow american eggs ever again.
My god you've solved it, instead of us eating the bugs the chickens eat them instead and then we eat their eggs!
it was a good post until you used your post to kvetch about america, garden gnome, as if the eggs you want can't be found in just about every supermarket. kys
Wow you can actually see post quality decline as the tourists start coming in
>cool flesh machines
it really sucks that even on a board that purports to love animals, nearly every contentious thread gets run over by 4chan moron tourists. impossible to have civil discussions anymore
Get out and go back
Discussion of animals and nature =/= worship of all animals, you colossal newfag.
Monoculture is worse by astronomical magnitudes
That is illegal in the EU
Yeah so you guys just import from Brazil, China and EUA
>Ideology encompasses a great deal of made up nonsense, originally invented as religion/magical thinking
i'm christian. i fucking hate a lot of science and the field is full of bullshit studies that prove nothing and are impossible to replicate or built on bad methodology once examined. animals are objects and man has dominion over them. my ideology is that if it is not human it does not have a soul and has minimal moral value.
this is just a resource conservation/societal efficiency issue. feeding the most people with the least stuff.
Word. God is a fact of existence. The catholic church has recorded many of his miracles and the bible is spot on. Other religions are just that, "religion". Magic. Cults. Being a christian isn't being religious, it's being correct and acknowledging reality.
The only religious christians are those crazy evangelicals.
>but this study compared a health conscious vegetarian with someone that ate a steak a day!
The health of the average vegan would improve with meat. Even with supplements and exotic, out of season “super foods” vegans are always slightly deficient in at least one vital nutrient.
Humans need meat to be at their healthiest, but red meats and processed meats are not out natural prey and current quantities consumed are frankly ridiculous.
its like vegan kibble bs
they say meat is unhealthy but they compare a vegetarian diet to rendered and then cooked yet again slaughterhouse waste and rotten supermarket meat that gets thrown in a never cleaned grinder foam packaginng and plastic ear tags included. of course the “meat” fed animal will be unhealthy, the meat is literally ground up garbage.
>Humans need meat to be at their healthiest
Yeah I see this argument a lot, it feels a bit like cope to me
>B-but if I weren't a burger munching slob, I would be able to be a little bit healthier if I ate some lean white meat
Moderate balanced diets are healthiest for humans. Instead of fried chicken 3 times a day, maybe venison stew 3 times a week sort of meat intake. Zero animal products is retarded and only for ideological purposes.
>3 times a week
You're still way off the mark
It's more like ONE trout a week, possibly half a trout if you already ate a few handfuls of nuts, some eggs, and a plate of locusts.
>a cup of venison stew in a meal is like eating a whole deer quarter!
>Zero animal products is retarded and only for ideological purposes.
Man is a fruitivore according to our guts, and vegetarian by design. We are able to eat meat because we are incredible creatures, but we certainly don't need it to be our healthiest.
you're an idiot. plain and simple.
>Man is a frugivore
The primate with a gut morphology most similar to a human's is the rhesus macaque. It eats fruit, nuts, and WHITE MEAT.
>Vegetarian by design
Humans have severely reduced gut fermentation ability and ridiculously reduced appendix, and can not digest most plant matter. However our digestive system quickly and completely dissolves low fat WHITE MEAT. If you ate either alone you would quickly die of malnutrition.
>help agriculture save me!
>how? the crops you need are in the other hemisphere.
>well i guess i'll starve and pray to the gods then
>-starving vegan in ancient world
>We are incredible creatures
We evolved bordering the fruit filled forests and the game filled plains and coasts. We have morpolohical changes from early hominids that clearly suggest we evolved to rely on meat as a food source. The entire reason we were able to sustain the evolution of larger brains is because of the nutrient density of one of the most common foods eaten by human ancestors - fish.
babboons are pretty close to us too. overall the human gut is like an orangutan began evolving into a dog. you know, from eating animals instead of leaves.
beans, the musical fruit. Also,your indoctrination is evident.
If you ate beans alone with not one scrap of meat you would be malnourished within four months. There's a reason vegans are importing a wide variety of berries, special grains, etc year round and STILL slamming supplements. And still being malnourished.
Did you know it is nearly impossible to raise a healthy human being from birth to adulthood on a vegan diet? The majority of them end up stunted.
Just eat a fucking egg or bug or fish or something.
It's actually you that's indoctrianted sweaty. Indoctrinated in a hypocritical pseudo-spiritual cult that may as well be controlled opposition for the meat industry.
>Did you know
You don't even know that, you just read it somewhere and believed it.
I also know that eating from the animal kingdom is essential to human health and maximizes the efficiency of plant based agriculture because there are very nutritious animals that can recycle the parts of plants we can't digest into something we can.
There are only the right and the dead. Vegans are a fragile memetic subspecies. A subhuman one, even. Their basis is ultimately a false faith in imaginary magic. Their successors will eat bugs, birds, and mutant salmon.
>you just read it somewhere
Yes some people do actually look up things to learn more, some of us arent satisfied just believing what ever the local yoki said
and ignored fucking mongoloid
as if ''ideological purposes'' are completely unimportant
They can be. Ideology encompasses a great deal of made up nonsense, originally invented as religion/magical thinking, and sadly, lumps it in together with rational thought such as "health and efficiency take priority to increase the success of our species. those who disagree will simply die out later.".
So "ideological purposes" encompasses
>all animals have souls and can suffer and we shouldn't hurt them because causing suffering is bad and that makes you bad no i refuse to convert to hinduism the rest of the way that would be too inconvenient. suffering is bad. inflicting suffering is bad. if you wouldn't hurt yourself, you wouldn't hurt an animal, because acting consistently is good. why? because IT. JUST. IS. ARRRRGH *frothing*
as well as
>there are only the right and the dead. we must eliminate the consumption of inefficient to produce red meats and reduce meat consumption to only what is needed because all forms of animal crops are less resource efficient than plant alternatives, and to reduce the impact of industrial agriculture, begin growing animal crops in residential areas, because although they are not as resource efficient, they are more space efficient, and the rearing of fish, fowl, insects can be performed in and around dwellings.
Animal crops are essential for human health and quick and efficient recycling of waste materials from plant crops tbh but if we only had them for those purposes rather than just meeting demand at any cost (such as massive amounts of subsidized corn and soi that would be way more expensive if the state wasn't fucking with the market...), meat would be so scarce and expensive that most people would only be able to afford 1 stringy chicken breast from a non-producing laying hen a week. Anything cheaper would be bugs that ate manure and things that were too rotten or toxic to the birds.
That's about as much as you actually need of course but the violent tendies rebellion would be hilariously unjustified
>suffering not bad
>darwinism is a moral philosophy
I don't give a fuck about the success of my species. Nothing is rational about caring about your species. I do want to reproduce, if I'd make it a priority the ''''''''rational'''''''' course of action would be working at a sperm bank and sneaking in my own cum. Women won't like it but who cares, I'm just acting in accordance to Darwin's theory of evolution.
there are only the right and the dead.
Then I'm right because I aint dead
>there are only the right and the dead.
Do you think that a slave who is kept alive just to be tortured is "right" in that sense? Wouldn't that slave prefer to be dead?
If you wouldn't prefer to be alive you're mentally ill
Proof: can't be mentally healthy if you're dead.
We love animals for what they are, cool flesh machines, not as replacements for people or anything nearly as important as them.
speak for yourself schizo gay
I've seen this argument in debate class as a great example of a straw man and ad hominem combination, where rather than addressing the argument, someone simultaneously addresses an entirely different argument while pretending they are talking to someone less respectable by making unfounded allegations in a passive aggressive manner.
>Yes, mr. obama, we all know that if you were not the son of an islamic terrorist and actively plotting the dissolution of the constitution, you would be all for prioritizing the safety and security of the american people.
vegans cant comprehend a moderated diet, more at 11
300,000,000 Americans and they all want 0.99$ fried chicken. Gotta get it from somewhere.
Reminder: boomers will do everything they can to stop you from having laying hens and a garden on your own property, assuming they didn’t already stop you from owning property. Centralized nightmare industry makes their 401k go brrrr, people need to be dependent on it. It is more profitable, although less efficient.
>Propaganda against billion dollar corporations that kill millions of animals and flood entire ecosystems with bird/pig shit, just so that consoomers can have their cancer infested chicken tendies.
You're kidding right?
Nah, they're not. Meat eating is a moral blind spot for most people.
Even conspiracy schizos will bend over backwards to justify the practices of these companies when the issue gets brought up, it's quite funny.
We kind of need it to live and be at our healthiest without relying on more destructive logistics and industry
>but omg it would still be less carbon
>Yeah, I don’t care. The only environmentalist talking point I accept is reducing the population not making it feasible to increase it and end up where we started.
Just not as much as hedonists think they need.
>We kind of need it to live
Not true at all. The health of the average person would increase without meat.
I'm not saying a bit of meat is bad for you, just that you can be healthy without it and that most people eat way too much currently.
Amino acid score disagrees, humans are omnivores.
We cannot get full nutrient density from plant matter, we also cannot subside entirely off of animal matter.
All we need to do is assure that the prey we consume is done so with a dispatch that is as painless as can be. If you have qualms on this, seek either a religious figure of your choice or restrict your own diet. If you dispatch your own prey, then you have extra bragging rights.
Be like snake.
>Be like snake.
Swallow chickens whole and shit once every two weeks?
Eat less meals per day, higher calorie concentration, strong basis of animal protein and fat. We need to include some leafy veg or cruciferous veg and a few other fibers but that's besides the point.
I started becoming healthier after trying to emulate the eating habits of my snakes and the dietary habits of my tegu.
it's ridiculously easy to get all your nutrients as a meat eater
vegetarians have to jump through all sorts of hoops to come close and even then usually still need supplements for things like iron etc
>vegetarians have to jump through all sorts of hoops to come close
lol what? that just isn't true
maybe vegans, but even then it's not that hard
What are you talking about?
do not buy factory farm meat
that shit is full of poison
butcher your own meat from animals you raise
grow your own produce
Oh shit your right, I should just magically acquire the money and know and time to raise my own cattle.
>Oh no, that means it might take effort and I would have to take responsibility for something! Oh me, oh my!
I just wanted to look at pictures of bats today
Didn't think I would be shilling EA
>consumption is a moral blind spot for most people
FTFY. Go suck yourself off in a hole in the ground eating moss or fuck off.
That looks like a very clean egg factory. My only propoganda for one of those comes from an elmer fudd cartoon.