Animal rights and predation

>Humans killing animals: BAD! MEAT IS MURDER.
>Animals killing other animals: WOW, NATURE IS METAL
How do animal rights activists reconcile the two?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Animals killing other animals: WOW, NATURE IS METAL
    Actually, I don't agree with that statement at all. Some animals need to be cleansed as they're a menace to all other life around them: wolves, orcas, chimpanzees, parasites, etc. I want this world to be a paradise. That means that you and all the bad animals have to go.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Veganism (and to a lesser extent vegetarianism) is deeply rooted in self-hatred and depression. Vegans hate themselves for being human and believe humans only cause harm and suffering. As a result, they tend to see the natural world as more "pure" or some other bullshit in their head.
    I don't know if it's the mental illness that makes them vegan, or the veganism exacerbates the depression they have. Either way though if you talk to a vegan long enough you'll begin to realize that he/she just hates themselves and humans in general. It's what all their arguments boil down to.
    "No you can't eat meat or use animal products because you're uh erm uh duuuuuh HURTING THE PRECIOUS PURE ANIMALS YOU EVIL HUMAN FUCK YOU YOU'RE EVIL!!!!!" Lots of yelling with these people. Those with mental illnesses seem to have issues controlling emotion.
    It's not really worth picking their brains though. They have very few arguments that a sensible person would buy. They tend to prey on younger people and women though, because emotional arguments work best on them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is pretty on point, reminds me of when i was a depressed teenage vegan. The mindset and arguments are strongly hinged on pure emotion.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Regardless of your opinion on muh vegans or muh activists, there is clearly a significant different between killing a handful of animals for the purposes of survival, and systematically breeding, torturing, modifying and pumping drugs full into billions of animals for the purpose of mass slaughter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      there is a difference between demanding equal rights under the law for humans and non human animals, and not wanting to torture animals for drug testing etc.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's bad too and wild animal suffering is the most neglected moral issue in the world.

    Also, don't base your morality on how wild animals act, dipshit.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deontology is fucking stupid.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The whole thread shows how you all seem so illiterate in veganism associated with animal protection.
    So I will bestow my lights upon you so you are a tad more educated at the end :
    It is not about eating meat. It is about stopping using animals as if they were mere objects and food providers. Not even talking about their emotions.
    Now, do your homework, continue educating yourselves, and you'll become less brainwashed and more humans.
    Ps: I am not a vegan. Merely a flexitarian who loves cheese

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So it's about moral delusion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I eat meat because the animal has already been slaughtered by the time I am picking my meal and any moralising on my point by then is just grandstanding. Me not eating the meat will bring the animal back to life and in turn everyone not eating meat would mean the animal never existed.

      If I were given the supreme choice, I would hunt all my meat personally as to actually be part of the cycles of nature but that is unreasonable at this point, so I eat the beef I find in the butchers.

      You sound like a moral busybody who thinks every farm is some uncaring mechanic treadmill, I source my meat and produce locally from a farm I can literally go up and check the cows myself and have done so with regularity.

  8. 2 months ago
    Sage

    Everyone who posted before me is that one brainletjak with the bicycle wheel on it's head.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can't even sage properly
      what does that make you, anon?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stupid vegan thread where midwits spout arbitrary and unprovable morals number SIX

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't quite wrap my head around the idea of animal rights. Practicalities aside, if you buy into the idea should you not then intervene if you see an animal attacking another? Or do they only have the right to not be killed and eaten by humans?
    >muh ecological balance. Predators are necessary because they regulate the population of prey species.
    That's a utilitarian argument and has nothing to do with abstract rights.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the idea is very childlike
      >Animals are cute and cool, i love them, they must be protected and loved!
      >Humans are icky greedy and a virus on the world! Humans must be stopped from hurting the poor animals!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you buy into the idea should you not then intervene if you see an animal attacking another?
      Predation is also an animal right. Humans only have the right to alter human behavior.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/MGVY79R.jpg

      >Humans killing animals: BAD! MEAT IS MURDER.
      >Animals killing other animals: WOW, NATURE IS METAL
      How do animal rights activists reconcile the two?

      Humans are vastly more intelligent than animals.
      A lion isn't aware it can take an accountant job and earn money.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hat doesnt mean lions arent intelligent, it just means they dont deal with human concepts like accounting and jobs. speciesist.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    probably the most brainless argument you could make against animal rights activism

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humans that look to other animals for their ethics should be treated like those animals.
    I agree that a meat-eating human should be treated like a big cat: if you see one wandering your neighborhood it should either be tranqed and sent to a zoo, or just killed.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    animal rights activists are human supremacists. they think that animals are stupid and are incapable of agency/morality. Humans are so superior that only they are capable of morals, and if humans kill other animals only then it is a holy atrocity.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we dont need meat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe if you are a pussy and want to become a skeleton.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not only do we need meat but animal flesh is actually the least destructive and cruel thing you can eat

      bugs are animals btw.

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