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Tyrannosaurus rex runs again: a theoretical analysis of the hypothesis that full-grown large theropods had a locomotory advantage to hunt in a shallow-water environment
https://academic.oup.com/zoolinnean/article/198/1/202/7153107

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >read the paper, goy!
    "No."

    >then disprove it!
    "No."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

    You cannot expect anyone to believe you solely because your assertion cannot be proven wrong.
    The burden of proof or disproof is on you, not on me.

    As with all paleontology, everything except direct fossil evidence is pure conjecture - because we weren't there and we do not have any crystal balls to look back in time, no matter how certain people posture as clairvoyants who claim to have cutting insight into the daily lives of dinosaurs (primarily based on hunches, feelings, false assumptions).

    Paleontology has taken a massive lurch towards sophism. Paleosophism.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Guys, look at me! I'm a troll! Seriously guys, pay attention to me! Look, I don't read stuff! Isn't that so edgy and interesting!? Please keep paying attention to me being a mouthbreathing contrarian moron, I will starve to death if you pay attention to anything that isn't me for 5 seconds!"

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >no goy, spinosaurus could've never been a swimmer despite the fact that it had webbed feet and a giant paddle tail
    >T-rex tho? 100% a swimmer
    Choose one you cucks

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Such a dogshit body plan that in order to move faster than a dying snail's pace in order to chase down anything you need to bait them into shallow water
    No wonder this moron is extinct while crocodiles are still alive to this day

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Tall two legged animal in a mangrove inland sea environment that eats big bodied four legged animals. Not really all that crazy to think it would just run prey down in that setting.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >we are now retvrning to swamp dwelling dinosaurs

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dinosaurs are finally becoming cool again
      Now give me the quadrupedal Megalosaurus

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just trust the experts.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tall animal with long legs can walk in shallow water and occasionally eat stuff it finds in it
    >this is somehow controversial and will either devolve into tyrannosaurus reconstructions with gills or in a discussion about trannies and mutilating your genitals for teh lulz

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"I don't understand how water resistance works" the paper

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      seethe

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        anon has a point. Have you ever tried running in a pool?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          A large dinosaur is a lot stronger than a man moron-kun.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      anon has a point. Have you ever tried running in a pool?

      Could you at very least glance over the paper before posting? It's open access for frick's sake, OP included the link. It's very obvious that you both either did not view the paper at all, or are completely illiterate. I know this because the paper discussed water resistance extensively. Water resistance was kind of the main point of discussion in the paper, so it would be impossible for anyone to miss if they had actually read the paper.

      Yes, running in a pool is slower. Good job! What an excellent observation, dipshit! But if you (bear with me here) so much as skimmed the open-access paper that OP linked, you would have known that the authors concluded that motion is slower in water. Even if you hadn't read the paper, based on the title, it is addressing T. rex's "locomotory advantage to hunt in a shallow-water environment." Did you know that the slowing effects of water would affect both T. rex and also prey animals? And that due basic fricking geometry, larger animals will be less affected by water resistance? Muscle mass increases relative to volume (distance unit cubed), but water resistance increases increases relative to surface area (distance unit squared). Therefore, water resistance exponentially decreases relative to body size. And that's just a first order approximation which any person with even a little bit of physics or biomechanics would be aware of. The model used by the authors is much more complex than that. Illiterates like you are the reason no-one takes Wauf seriously. Would it kill you to read at least one simple thing before posting?

      I cannot vouch for the speed estimates from the paper, since speed estimates from fossil evidence are always controversial. Nor does a shallow-water advantage prove that T. rex was specialized to shallow-water hunting. I'm just posting because I am disappointed. No one is even going to bother reading so much as the abstract of the paper they are criticizing. Fix yourselves.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        But anon! You're asking way too much of simpletons who literally can't stop playing /misc/tard and hypercontrarian for 5 seconds!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >tall animal with long legs can walk in shallow water and occasionally eat stuff it finds in it
          >this is somehow controversial and will either devolve into tyrannosaurus reconstructions with gills or in a discussion about trannies and mutilating your genitals for teh lulz

          >inserting politics unbidden into a thread about fricking dinosaurs
          This isn't rent free this is genuine brain worms

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            where did I talk about politics moron? This is a paleoschizo thread, so people will either say t. rex had gills, scales and reconstruct it as a fish with legs or imply that merely entertaining the idea of animals walking in shallow waters means you want everyone to cut their wiener off and frick their life up with hormones. Stick around and you'll see that I'm right, it's just how these shit threads are

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You will be at it the whole thread. Fricking tards ruin every discussion by talking shit and agreeing with each other shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't need to read this bullshit to infer it's all pure conjecture.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        frankly, you got one or two people to read the paper, and that exponentially better than twitter or most other form of social media.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >pure conjecture

          >read the paper, goy!
          "No."

          >then disprove it!
          "No."

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

          You cannot expect anyone to believe you solely because your assertion cannot be proven wrong.
          The burden of proof or disproof is on you, not on me.

          As with all paleontology, everything except direct fossil evidence is pure conjecture - because we weren't there and we do not have any crystal balls to look back in time, no matter how certain people posture as clairvoyants who claim to have cutting insight into the daily lives of dinosaurs (primarily based on hunches, feelings, false assumptions).

          Paleontology has taken a massive lurch towards sophism. Paleosophism.

          >pure conjecture
          Don't even try to deny the blatant samegay

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