Rational response to realizing most orca praise comes from the scientists wanting to frick them. They need to claim cetaceans are people to override the “animals cant consent” directive thus cetacean research is working towards bypassing bestiality laws.
There is an article out there that claims dolphin females are one of the few animals that can enjoy sex like humans. Sounds stupid, right? Animal frickers have forced everything to orgasm, on camera. Just ask a russian for some videos. Russians love that stuff. Well you see when the animal fricker is a zoologist they do that for a peer reviewed paper.
Orcas and dolphins brain structure strongly implies that they are not just definitely dumber than chimps but they might even be about as smart as dogs.
>it's what that animal chooses to do to manipulate its environment for its benefits that shows what's going on upstairs >until proven otherwise, cetaceans are as smart as cows.
Uh oh
>Finding prey, stalking it, alerting others
Dogs/wolves do this all the time. Standard behavior. >breaking ice
Yeah like that took more thought than it takes a cat to swat at stuff on the other side of the window.
I can one up you: A beagle demonstrating tool use.
>Yeah like that took more thought than it takes a cat to swat at stuff on the other side of the window
Yeah, its totally like cats and dogs are not intelligent enough to move in sync in order to use their kinetic energy to break something as a group, push it into open water to maximise efficiency, then repeat it closer to the surface in order to knock their prey into the water. You're moronic
you need to realize something about cetacean "intelligence"
they have proportionally small frontal lobe and a overdeveloped limbic system. that is the part of your brain that controls your actions without your knowledge. coordination is totally unconscious and automatic for them. they don't have to think because if one orca has an idea they are as close to a hivemind as a mammal can get.
once you realize the reality of how their brains are set up they get less "non human person" and more "killer robot swarm". you wont see this as an advanced understanding of physics. you see this as them trying to splash water at something to get it to move, and their automatic coordination causes it to break the ice. they then get food so conditioning reinforces this behavior.
the dog comparisons are harsh, but in reality it's not likely that orca are smarter than any great ape. it's just the way their brains are. the part of their brain that is responsible and required for actual thought is smaller compared to the rest, the structure of their brain is less orderly, their cortex is thinner and sparser, and proportionate to their body (remember most neurons are for controlling the body) and considering how heavily they rely on a literal 6th sense, there isn't much brain left to think. sheer size is the only reason they have approached the real intelligence of a monkey, and the rest is explained away as their instinctive coordination on account of a hypertrophied limbic system. corvids are the polar opposite of this. their brains are EXTREMELY dense, well organized, and the area responsible for thought, their version of it, is hypertrophied, so they do display actual signs of intelligence like creating tools and multi-step problem solving. self-beaching dolphins look like jumping dogs next to a crow using a tool to make another tool.
>push it into open water
it is borderline automatic behavior for a predator to either corner their prey or herd it into the open.
But all they do is float around in the ocean beeping at each other and eating squids like dumbfricks. Chimps form robust societies and have organized wars and things like that.
Whales might have actual language through. If they have language they could feasibly have philosophy or a high degree of abstract reasoning. Not that it would do them much good.
>might >if
anthropomorphizing gay detected, opinion ignored. every animal has a form of language but it's what that animal chooses to do to manipulate its environment for its benefits that shows what's going on upstairs. until proven otherwise, cetaceans are as smart as cows.
>it's what that animal chooses to do to manipulate its environment for its benefits that shows what's going on upstairs >until proven otherwise, cetaceans are as smart as cows.
Uh oh
They are the masters of the oceans. They have everything any animal could want. Humans only started hunting them very recently, so their loss there. But they couldn't have predicted this. So i guess we can at least say they aren't intelligent enough to predict an unknown danger.
What's with all contrarians complaining about orcas?
Rational response to realizing most orca praise comes from the scientists wanting to frick them. They need to claim cetaceans are people to override the “animals cant consent” directive thus cetacean research is working towards bypassing bestiality laws.
There is an article out there that claims dolphin females are one of the few animals that can enjoy sex like humans. Sounds stupid, right? Animal frickers have forced everything to orgasm, on camera. Just ask a russian for some videos. Russians love that stuff. Well you see when the animal fricker is a zoologist they do that for a peer reviewed paper.
both get mogged by birds.
orcas > bottlenose dolphins > orangutans > bonobos/chimps > all whales > other primates/monkeys
there's also a fair chance that elephants and some species of birds (ravens, magpies, grey parrots) are more intelligent than apes
Orcas and dolphins brain structure strongly implies that they are not just definitely dumber than chimps but they might even be about as smart as dogs.
then how do you explain
>Finding prey, stalking it, alerting others
Dogs/wolves do this all the time. Standard behavior.
>breaking ice
Yeah like that took more thought than it takes a cat to swat at stuff on the other side of the window.
I can one up you: A beagle demonstrating tool use.
>Yeah like that took more thought than it takes a cat to swat at stuff on the other side of the window
Yeah, its totally like cats and dogs are not intelligent enough to move in sync in order to use their kinetic energy to break something as a group, push it into open water to maximise efficiency, then repeat it closer to the surface in order to knock their prey into the water. You're moronic
you need to realize something about cetacean "intelligence"
they have proportionally small frontal lobe and a overdeveloped limbic system. that is the part of your brain that controls your actions without your knowledge. coordination is totally unconscious and automatic for them. they don't have to think because if one orca has an idea they are as close to a hivemind as a mammal can get.
once you realize the reality of how their brains are set up they get less "non human person" and more "killer robot swarm". you wont see this as an advanced understanding of physics. you see this as them trying to splash water at something to get it to move, and their automatic coordination causes it to break the ice. they then get food so conditioning reinforces this behavior.
the dog comparisons are harsh, but in reality it's not likely that orca are smarter than any great ape. it's just the way their brains are. the part of their brain that is responsible and required for actual thought is smaller compared to the rest, the structure of their brain is less orderly, their cortex is thinner and sparser, and proportionate to their body (remember most neurons are for controlling the body) and considering how heavily they rely on a literal 6th sense, there isn't much brain left to think. sheer size is the only reason they have approached the real intelligence of a monkey, and the rest is explained away as their instinctive coordination on account of a hypertrophied limbic system. corvids are the polar opposite of this. their brains are EXTREMELY dense, well organized, and the area responsible for thought, their version of it, is hypertrophied, so they do display actual signs of intelligence like creating tools and multi-step problem solving. self-beaching dolphins look like jumping dogs next to a crow using a tool to make another tool.
>push it into open water
it is borderline automatic behavior for a predator to either corner their prey or herd it into the open.
human
Sperm whales by a mile. They've had spindle cells 15 million years longer than humans and more of them.
But all they do is float around in the ocean beeping at each other and eating squids like dumbfricks. Chimps form robust societies and have organized wars and things like that.
Whales might have actual language through. If they have language they could feasibly have philosophy or a high degree of abstract reasoning. Not that it would do them much good.
>might
>if
anthropomorphizing gay detected, opinion ignored. every animal has a form of language but it's what that animal chooses to do to manipulate its environment for its benefits that shows what's going on upstairs. until proven otherwise, cetaceans are as smart as cows.
Until it's disproven whales have the most racist jokes about other cetaceans.
Cows can form social circles and outcast Betsy for being a bawdy ass b***h. I'm sure there are whales that shit on bal**as
What could they do with it? They're just floating mouths. A cow has greater capacity to build because cows have necks.
>it's what that animal chooses to do to manipulate its environment for its benefits that shows what's going on upstairs
>until proven otherwise, cetaceans are as smart as cows.
Uh oh
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They are the masters of the oceans. They have everything any animal could want. Humans only started hunting them very recently, so their loss there. But they couldn't have predicted this. So i guess we can at least say they aren't intelligent enough to predict an unknown danger.
WAKE ME UP
He cute.
But is he smart?
Woah