What do you think about the Koehler method for training a dog that has attacked people and dogs numerous times?

What do you think about the Koehler method for training a dog that has attacked people and dogs numerous times?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Many dogs respond to it poorly and then ironically the trainer says they should be put down or hit much harder. There was a caesar milan episode where instead of training the dog he just choked it until it passed out. Other dogs appear to be fine but if anyone but you puts the collar on they bite. Basically it’s not used anymore for a reason and you won’t find anyone with a degree or a job with something other than dogs that are trained to bite people anyways using it.

    You can take inspiration from it but don’t take it as gospel. The man who invented it would 100% agree that any dog that didn’t obey or became more stubborn after torture and was stupid or should be put down. There’s even a local schizo on Wauf who hates it and shills larry krohn because a pro trainer he went to for the koehler method turned his dog into a nervous wreck.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dog daddy has a good series on this. Yes it works. Everyone who says otherwise hasn’t worked with dog aggressive behaviors, has an overweight dog, or is of a certain ethnic-religious group.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, it doesn't "work", it looks like it works right up until the dog attacks someone. Maybe some percentage never do, but it's not 100%. You expect the YouTuber to come back and make a video about the eventual failures?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only remedy for a dog that atracks dogs and people is a big nice syringe of blue or pink fluid.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The kindest thing you can do is kill it
    It is tragic that this animal was given birth for no reason other than the satisfaction of humans, led a miserable life with no real joy in it and then through no real fault of its own, since animals are not morally culpable, it had to be killed
    That is tragic but it needs to be done, there is nothing else to be done except a painless death

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wtf how did they get the dogs to do this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For real imagine if dogs could pass the time by playing card games instead of just sleeping like a loser

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is that a fancy word for euthanasia

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No it's a slightly rough old school method with supposedly very good and fast results for dogs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You mean some shit cooked up by a low empathy american boomer fully enjoying the IQ-lowering, aggression-increasing effects of breathing in leaded gas? AKA a slightly gentler version of just smacking your dog when they don't listen? For an aggressive dog?

        That will appear to work when you are present and backfire when you are not. All dogs interpret aggression from their owner as a cue to submit to exactly one person and fear and eventually attack all others. Train it if you want, you're just abusing an animal, but there is no replacement for neutering, chaining and muzzling, or preferably, euthanasia. We don't have dogs because people kept aggressive animals around. We have dogs because the moment 40,000 year old fido snapped at a child, the childs father flew into a rage, dragged it out back, and started slamming it against the nearest hard surface.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          bill koehler's yank and crank and shock collar punishment is why i grew up hearing
          >you never pet a strange dog
          >dogs are terrible animals
          >if you touch a dogs head they'll bite you
          treats karens and buzz collar tactical dudebros are the reason as an adult i can pet any dog i want as long as it's not a pitbull and their owner isnt black or wearing a confederate flag wifebeater/maga hat

          hurting dogs makes aggressive ones appear to be fixed until they aren't btw, my dad learned that the hard way with a BYB german shepherd that was a FLAWLESS obedience boy after a lot of prong collar pops but bit a finger off the vet
          people who give up and just euthanize them are unironically correct. the heckin pupper does not need saved, dogs are good or they aren't...

          I get that it's meaner than the methods they use now, but I'm at a loss for what to do with him. Do you have recommendations aside from killing him?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Rather than teach violence, go for the gentle brainwashing method where none of your punishments can be blamed on you by the dog, because they can't comprehend what's actually happening. Some military trainers will throw dogs in sensory deprivation boxes for short periods of time, and never use the shock collar as a punishment. Is it still cruel? Absolutely.

            But really your dog should be put down. 100% of training fails.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm guessing you're some kind of sociopath based on your eagerness to kill the dog, which I won't blame on you because it's most likely the fault of your genetics or upbringing. I hope you can understand that my empathetic parental instincts make me want to keep the dog alive, so I want to try everything I can before resorting to euthanasia. Do you have any names, titles, domains that I can type into a search engine to learn about this stuff?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's not sociopathy. It's fear for other human beings and other peoples pets. You are selfishly keeping an aggressive animal alive and appear to intend to train it so you can pretend it's fixed.

                Am I still going to be a sociopath when your trained, non-muzzled dog ruins a kid's life by removing half their face?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Who says my dog is going to be non-muzzled?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Rather than teach violence, go for the gentle brainwashing method where none of your punishments can be blamed on you by the dog, because they can't comprehend what's actually happening. Some military trainers will throw dogs in sensory deprivation boxes for short periods of time, and never use the shock collar as a punishment. Is it still cruel? Absolutely.

          But really your dog should be put down. 100% of training fails.

          It's not sociopathy. It's fear for other human beings and other peoples pets. You are selfishly keeping an aggressive animal alive and appear to intend to train it so you can pretend it's fixed.

          Am I still going to be a sociopath when your trained, non-muzzled dog ruins a kid's life by removing half their face?

          The kindest thing you can do is kill it
          It is tragic that this animal was given birth for no reason other than the satisfaction of humans, led a miserable life with no real joy in it and then through no real fault of its own, since animals are not morally culpable, it had to be killed
          That is tragic but it needs to be done, there is nothing else to be done except a painless death

          Either you're samefagging or everyone on this board is retarded. You realize dogs aren't born trained, right? Dogs are creatures made to run around and hunt prey, and when they're untrained they're going to try and realize their instincts. Imagine being such a low-T gay that you give up at the slightest hint of trouble and resort to putting the animal (who didn't know better) to death rather than making any attempt to teach him not to do things you don't want him to do. I would love to see your philosophy on babies. I'm guessing anti natalist.
          >three months old? and he can't wipe his own ass yet? yeah you should just post-natally abort him, he is going to smell like shit his entire life if you don't. also the idea of 'teaching' is a myth because i need to rationalize my extremely shameful inability to exert effort to fix problems

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            huh?? your the retarded one. why would a sane person keep a predator animal to begin with?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy fuck kek

            huh?? your the retarded one. why would a sane person keep a predator animal to begin with?

            You just got BTFO’d. OP sprayed cum in your anus and left you leaking his cum.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              no he didn't, op only fucks dogs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >multiple attacks on people and dogs
            >"slightest difficulty"
            Now who's being retarded?

            Unfortunately, some dogs are just not people safe. It's not entirely breed specific, but it is instinctual - you think herding dogs are trained to herd, terriers are trained to kill rats, etc? No, they're born into it, and no amount of training will make a terrier entirely safe around pet rats, or stop the border collie from trying to herd the kids.

            The dog in question should be put down, and I say that as a vegetarian and a dog owner. It sucks, and I'm genuinely sorry it will eventually come to that, but your dog isn't safe.

            If you don't put it down, you're opening yourself up to significant (like, $1m+ easily) financial liability. A dog that has attacked before is never more sympathetic than the ravaged toddler it attacked, so if you don't put your dog down, you need to buy a large liability insurance policy ASAP, and expect to pay out the ass for it since underwriters know you've got a time bomb.

            Is it worth risking your entirely future over a pet that has shown it's dangerous? That's ultimately the choice you have to make.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >and I say that as a vegetarian and a dog owner.
              I don't know why you thought this would lend you credibility. Veganism and related diets are psychotic anti-human religions.
              I came up with my post in 2-3 minutes because I didn't anticipate someone would take my words to the extreme. My dog isn't a mindless killer, let me paint you a picture that will make it through your thick skull:
              -He got off leash and knocked someone down
              -He bit a smaller dog but the damage was minimal
              I know my dog better than you do. His bad behavior is serious but does not occur often. So I'm positive that I can train him out of his slip ups.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's a lot different sounding than "attacked multiple people and dogs"

                OP made it sound like he had a half dozen toddler and chihuahua scalps, not jumped on someone and once got annoyed by an annoying small dog.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I would agree with you on the euthanasia thing if my dog was bringing home dead people and animals on the reg.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If that's truly all that occurred you don't need rough training here

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Aggression is genetic. Shut up with your save the heckin pupper bullshit.

            All training fails. I’d rather kill a mutt than risk a child.

            >and I say that as a vegetarian and a dog owner.
            I don't know why you thought this would lend you credibility. Veganism and related diets are psychotic anti-human religions.
            I came up with my post in 2-3 minutes because I didn't anticipate someone would take my words to the extreme. My dog isn't a mindless killer, let me paint you a picture that will make it through your thick skull:
            -He got off leash and knocked someone down
            -He bit a smaller dog but the damage was minimal
            I know my dog better than you do. His bad behavior is serious but does not occur often. So I'm positive that I can train him out of his slip ups.

            If you lied and your dog isn’t aggressive this shit training makes them aggressive.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              most dog owners want an aggressive animal that bites anyone who pets without permission. they have this fantasy where it wouldn’t get put down somehow.

              to the rest of the world, hurting animals until they submit is a proven way to make them more dangerous in the long term and mostly practiced by fuzzy heads and wraparound shades wearers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bill koehler's yank and crank and shock collar punishment is why i grew up hearing
        >you never pet a strange dog
        >dogs are terrible animals
        >if you touch a dogs head they'll bite you
        treats karens and buzz collar tactical dudebros are the reason as an adult i can pet any dog i want as long as it's not a pitbull and their owner isnt black or wearing a confederate flag wifebeater/maga hat

        hurting dogs makes aggressive ones appear to be fixed until they aren't btw, my dad learned that the hard way with a BYB german shepherd that was a FLAWLESS obedience boy after a lot of prong collar pops but bit a finger off the vet
        people who give up and just euthanize them are unironically correct. the heckin pupper does not need saved, dogs are good or they aren't...

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