Is there a sea serpent that eats plants or microscopic crustaceans? If not I really doubt it. If you add normal sized crustaceans for food you chance them going on land and fucking up the land snakes. I don't think sea snakes eat crustaceans either.
>I don't think sea snakes eat crustaceans either
Not exactly sea snakes but there are several water snakes that twist off the legs of crabs and crayfish instead of swallowing them whole.
If there's no meat food source there's no next generation. And chances are the food source would grow and proiferate. Then they would create many different species and fill up nitches before the snake could grow legs again.
So probably not. Same thing happened with Crocs after dinos died they moved to try and live on land and run but lost to cats and canines.
Do land animals ever evolve more legs? Can't think of a single example.
Seems like maybe you need to have an aquatic organism, then sprout a load of fins, then go back onto land and develop them into limbs. That's a lot of (excuse the pun) steps and in the meantime you've got land snakes which cope fine without legs outcompeting you until your legs get really good. Just doesn't seem plausible.
How about a world with only:
Snakes
Worms
Molluscs
Dibamids
Amphisbaenians
Caecilians
and other limbless forms?
Didn't research the list. That actually might work. The animals that have these are more likely to form limbs again. Chances are more likely that the end of their tail will become a limb or their tongue/nose area.
Of the vertebrates, I'd think snakes have the best odds of evolving herbivory. Seems odd, because they are hyper-carnivorous, but their digestive systems are really slow and thorough, which is a good first step to being able to digest plants. I guess maybe start off swallowing fruit or something?
>Do land animals ever evolve more legs? Can't think of a single example.
Elephants did.
inb4 lame excuses that it doesn't count because autistic nuances in the definition of limb were written with the common case in mind, making the whole thing tautological
Do land animals ever evolve more legs? Can't think of a single example.
Seems like maybe you need to have an aquatic organism, then sprout a load of fins, then go back onto land and develop them into limbs. That's a lot of (excuse the pun) steps and in the meantime you've got land snakes which cope fine without legs outcompeting you until your legs get really good. Just doesn't seem plausible.
How about a world with only:
Snakes
Worms
Molluscs
Dibamids
Amphisbaenians
Caecilians
and other limbless forms?
says the seed world is under the assumption that there's bugs and shitty little fishes
Would centipedes and millipedes be allowed to be seeded? They're pretty wormy.
Sneed World
Sneed world?
fuck
delete this post I was gonna make a snake seed world
Well apparently nobody has any pictures of this, so go wild.
i read that as snake weed world
Who cares about legs, what I want to know is would marine snakes take up whale niches? Could we get proper giant sea serpents?
Is there a sea serpent that eats plants or microscopic crustaceans? If not I really doubt it. If you add normal sized crustaceans for food you chance them going on land and fucking up the land snakes. I don't think sea snakes eat crustaceans either.
They actually can but only the thin soft shell kind.
The first whales didn't eat plankton either.
What are they going to eat in the meantime mate. That's what I'm asking about.
You know sea snakes already exist? They'd eat fish or whatever fish-like things evolve in the ocean depending on what else the world is seeded with.
If the world is only seeded with worm-like creatures I doubt it.
Worm like fish then. Sea snakes love eels
>I don't think sea snakes eat crustaceans either
Not exactly sea snakes but there are several water snakes that twist off the legs of crabs and crayfish instead of swallowing them whole.
we already had giant sea serpents in the eocene with things like gigantophis, would probably happen again
If there's no meat food source there's no next generation. And chances are the food source would grow and proiferate. Then they would create many different species and fill up nitches before the snake could grow legs again.
So probably not. Same thing happened with Crocs after dinos died they moved to try and live on land and run but lost to cats and canines.
Pic related
>if there's no meat food source
You mean like other snakes?
Mate there has to be a non-snake food source at some point on the hierarchy because all snake eat meat.
Yeah like other snakes
What if they just reproduce quick enough to sustain their numbers
You can't create something from nothing. They can't create babies without having a food source.
Do land animals ever evolve more legs? Can't think of a single example.
Seems like maybe you need to have an aquatic organism, then sprout a load of fins, then go back onto land and develop them into limbs. That's a lot of (excuse the pun) steps and in the meantime you've got land snakes which cope fine without legs outcompeting you until your legs get really good. Just doesn't seem plausible.
How about a world with only:
Snakes
Worms
Molluscs
Dibamids
Amphisbaenians
Caecilians
and other limbless forms?
The bugs would take over.
Didn't research the list. That actually might work. The animals that have these are more likely to form limbs again. Chances are more likely that the end of their tail will become a limb or their tongue/nose area.
Pic related
But the first one to evolve the ability to eat live plants will have a "leg" up in the first thousand decades.
Of the vertebrates, I'd think snakes have the best odds of evolving herbivory. Seems odd, because they are hyper-carnivorous, but their digestive systems are really slow and thorough, which is a good first step to being able to digest plants. I guess maybe start off swallowing fruit or something?
I would have thought worms to be honest.
What would the eels eat then?
>What would the eels eat then?
Worms
Okay. I'm satisfied. Giant sea serpents are possible.
>Do land animals ever evolve more legs? Can't think of a single example.
Elephants did.
inb4 lame excuses that it doesn't count because autistic nuances in the definition of limb were written with the common case in mind, making the whole thing tautological
Well just like
says the seed world is under the assumption that there's bugs and shitty little fishes
Dead stuff -> Worms -> Garter snakes -> Kingsnakes
There's your foodchain