>We need another wiser and perhaps more mystical concept of animals. Remote from universal nature and living by complicated artifice, man in civilization surveys the creature through the glass of his knowledge and sees thereby a feather magnified and the whole image in distortion. We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate for having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings, they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth.
fricking deep. many will not understand.
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All of this is verbose shittery. "Apes" are a lower form because they were manufactured to be so in order to cover up higher form Hominids slightly comparable to ourselves that died off long ago. The author is being sympathetic to a sterotype and stating that the sterotype is not characteristic of itself.
schizophrenia thread
hello sir plz engage
OH MY GOD!!! They're getting engaged guys!!!
this is unironically cute
They're just stick figures?
shut up b***h
enemies to lovers 30k words slowburn
good thread
People with these romantic notions of nature are moronic. Nature is a fricking meat grinder full of endless suffering.
I've seen so many things die painfully, needlessly in miserable suffering.
Someone post that video of a komodo dragon tearing apart a pregnant deer and eating the suddenly aware baby deer in front of its eviscerated mother.
i can tell by your language and the conclusion you've come to in response to my post that you're not a very smart person thus i will not engage you
>i will not engage you
You just did.
Anyways people like you are fricking delusional and unfortunately common.
Enjoy sucking off your endless cycle of suffering.
you are aware that you have misinterpreted me based on the context you surely see yet you decide to dig your heels deeper into your argument and fling stones at a strawman, based on this i can deduce that you are not a very smart person and thus i will not engage you.
You just engaged with me again, dummy.
Tell me what I misinterpreted then, i criticized the kind of people that would write a passage like that then based on how you responded to that bullshit write-up and how defensive you got I interpreted you as being the exact kind of person who would write and believe in that romantic, spiritualist bullshit.
I can tell by the way you speak and your general demeanour that you're a pseudo-intellectual moron, but i am bored so will engage with anybody.
i can tell by your defensiveness, excessive use of ad-hominem and desperate need to assign malignant motive to my banal responses that you are not a very smart person thus i will not engage you.
You shall engage with me and we will be engaged.
> Someone post that video of a komodo dragon tearing apart a pregnant deer and eating the suddenly aware baby deer in front of its eviscerated mother.
Pretty sure that was orchestrated by Indonesians I.e. people so not the best exmaple
Kek
>Indonesians I.e. people
That's a little bit of a stretch there
There's sense in it atleast. Komodo dragons had to eat. When the dragons die their bodies become the grass the future deer eat. It's beautiful.
hello i am OP, i will now engage.
i do not believe that a cycle predicated on death and suffering is beautiful in the slightest, this notion was not the point of my post, i am an antinatalist.
much love, goodbye
>antinatalist
onions and cringe
go back to plebbit
I am trans btw
ok rick sanchez
what if both are right?
or neither?
What if life is fully formed and perfectly beautiful even with all its horror and pain?
What if suffering and the transient nature of pleasure are what makes life beautiful?
What if reducing suffering doesn't make life perfect, merely boring and inane?
>What if reducing suffering doesn't make life perfect, merely boring and inane?
Frick people who think like you, seriously.
What a fricking awful thing to think.
What if I kick you in the balls and then ask you if you still think like this?
suffering includes boredom.
>suffering includes boredom.
stop making me suffer then
Suffering does build character, at least
if you call PTSD character, then yes
I feel like we've protected you from so much suffering in life you now suffer from things others might consider an inconvenience, or even a joke.
I don't know though. I don't know your personal suffering. I do know it can probably get much worse.
Do you equate ‘suffering’ with tramautic wartime experiences? It doesn’t have to be extreme but some hardship is necessary at some point in everyone’s life
hardship is literally only necessary to build the skills to endure more hardship in the future. without hardship there is no need for hardship.
Humans are unironically made to suffer. A life without adversity will feel flat and meaningless, happiness can only be fully appreciated when suffering exists as a contrast.
>happiness can only be fully appreciated when suffering exists as a contrast.
Yup. Same reason you can never really appreciate a sunny day without the occasional rainy one. A balance needs to be struck.
feeling unfulfilled because your life is meaningless is a form of suffering. my point stands.
You don't know what it's like to effortlessly achieve your goals, neither do you know what it's like to truly suffer.
Then who does?
A lot of things in nature are as extreme as traumatic wartime experiences.
They are if you believe in certain eastern philosophies. It's like one-way thing though. Our interpretations are only accurate so long as we don't try to project them back onto nature only to see how wrong we were. But if you look for analogs of nature in civilization you find things that are more true. It's easier to look to nature for examples of something rather than looking for rules or meaning of which it has none.
>Destroys an ecosystem with plastic
>"Dude, it's just survival of the fittest. *smug smirk*"