The blimp model has now been deboonked. Megalodon was actually lean.

The blimp model has now been deboonked. Megalodon was actually lean.
https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2024/5079-megalodon-body-form

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the implications of picrel?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ?

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is why the Liopleurodon was better.
    But really, seems like kind of an inconsequential ‘fact’.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The blimp shit was always moronic because how the frick could that thing catch a whale?

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which looks better?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen this before and it makes no sense, as if great whites cant be lanky.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't Deep Blue pregnant?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              That and she’d been gorging on a whale carcass literally minutes before

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              That shark wasn't even Deep Blue

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's kind of the reason I don't get the new "images" some were fat, some were lean, just like every other animal in history. even fricking eels.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They mean that it was skinnier on average. They used to assume that it was more robust than a great white isometrically scaled to a similar length.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            More vertibrae just means it was longer, we still have no way of telling if it was lanky or chonky.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              read the paper

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's about the diameter of the vertebrae rather than the number. Cretoxyrhina had a high number of vertebrae but they also had a similar diameter to a great white shark.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dromaeosaurs had feathers by the way

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paleontology is such a bullshit field. Fake science

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We got other vertebrae that's over 50% larger than the biggest ones from the more or less complete specimen. Isn't there a 24-25cm diameter one? Also seem to remember that the speculated total vertebrae count was not abnormaly high either.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Do they know the age of the individual with the proportionally smaller vertebrae

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just reading what the shark people are saying, it seems this reconstruction is pretty shaky and makes a lot of assumptions

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it based on a direct fossil find? because if not then i don't care

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it was something about the people who came up with it assuming more vertebrae = skinny elongated body which isn't necessarily the case, but I know frick all about sharks and haven't read the paper so that might be off the mark

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So how long is it now? is it back to 20 meters?

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did anyone unironically belive the blimp variant of this thing even existed?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It was actually the common view for quite some time.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paleotwitter did, they are insufferable

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No they didn’t

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paleoartists will immediately latch on to anything deemed new and subversive. It's why they must be fought on all fronts, because ultimately they have no standards. They just want to undermine whatever exists before.

      If a prominent paleontologist came out and said that Tyrannosaurus in fact was toothless, deaf, and crawled on the ground like a worm; paleoartists would eat it up.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >subversive
        how ?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          In this specific example, making it look like a stupid blimp goes agains the common idea of the "cool and bafass shark"

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            *badass

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            *badass

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            just because you don't find it "cool" doesn't mean it's "subversive"

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I never said that, idiot. I said it's subversive because it goes against the common view of the animal, that's what subversive means

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                that makes even less sense
                just because a new model based on newer analysis and information don't agree with previous models don't mean it is "subversive"

                When there is zero evidence for an "updated" alternative interpretation and the motivation for it is specifically BECAUSE it is less "cool", then yes it is subversive.

                >zero evidence
                the paper that suggested the model presented evidence, that was valid at the time, in favor of that interpretation
                It being overturned due to later analysis and new information don't change it

              • 3 months ago
                Sage

                You're arguing with a known troll, best thing to do is hide thread and just move on.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone i dont like is one guy
                >saging the thread out of butthurt
                NTA just came here to lol @ you
                Anyway who cares if homielodon was fat or skinny, still a big fricking shark

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Blimp megalodon was based on nothing, someone just said "hey WHAT IF" and surprise surprise, it was wrong

                You're arguing with a known troll, best thing to do is hide thread and just move on.

                I am not paleoschizo, not everyone who disagrees with modern paleonthology is him

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >not everyone who disagrees with modern paleonthology is him
                true, but everyone who spells it "paleonthology" is definitely him.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm afraid i am an ESL

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm afraid i am an ESL
                yes, so is paleoschizo

                that particular misspelling is one way we ID him (you)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah sure

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                can we give the guy who has paleoschizo living rent free in his head a name?
                what about paleoschizoschizo

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              When there is zero evidence for an "updated" alternative interpretation and the motivation for it is specifically BECAUSE it is less "cool", then yes it is subversive.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Subersive in this context means different enough from established media so as to get exposure, attention and clicks when they post their "art"

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They all ate up the moronic half-exposed dimetrodon spikes because of Trey's misinformation. Those people are worthless.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I grew up with so I never questioned it. It just being a bigger great white seemed reasonable

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      megalodon you sneaky fricker

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Creative art like this is why I keep coming back here

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what does this mean for 100 tonne megalodon?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So how long is it now? is it back to 20 meters?

      It appears that the length increased but the mass decreased.

      • 3 months ago
        DoctorGreen

        >big length, small mass
        look at that, The Megalodon was a bird

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    ...i dont like megalodon anymore...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He just like me fr

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    NOOOO THE SCIENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO DISPROVE THE AWESOMESAUR

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they kinda took it to the opposite extreme.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      wrong stretch, that's the regular white shark

      this is closer to what they describe

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine my shock when paleotwitter's fanfiction turns out to be wrong

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