Not him, but any Christian clearly doesn't have beliefs of their own at all. Christianity is not an original thought. You're just taking beliefs that others have told you to believe in, without questioning them.
Christianity is factually not "beliefs of [your] own". Christianity is an existing set of ideas that believers take off the shelf. I guess they're incapable of thinking for themselves.
Christianity is factually not "beliefs of [your] own". Christianity is an existing set of ideas that believers take off the shelf. I guess they're incapable of thinking for themselves.
this is a bigfoot thread. take your cringe up to /x/ or /misc/ or Wauf
>He was a professional bigfoot hunter so they had a couple hundred pounds of plaster back at camp just incase they came across footprints of bigfoot.
Not even kidding.
That's how they explained why he had everything ready to make the casts an hour after they saw bigfoot...
could it be he was prepared? no, it couldn't be... i mean he had his camera, it's not like he came prepared... lol bigfoot deniers are mentally ill
3.7 million year old prints are more detailed and overall realistic than "fresh" bigfoot prints come the frick on
meanwhile bigfoot has ever-changing foot anatomy and the prints are always comically distorted
There has never been any concrete evidence for bigfoot. Finding gorillas over a larger range was easier for less people. Meanwhile americans living in america swarming the woods can not find one single fricking bone, hair, corpse, part of a corpse, scat pile, nothing. No DNA in those casts either... just human DNA. Well I guess bigfoot is human!
but bigfoot is smart so you cant find him
yes we can find an individual murder victim hid by a smart human
but bigfoot is super smart
he can uh time travel yeah
durrrrr
please focus on this issue instead of remembering that social justice was created by the CIA to derail occupy wall street and PETA is a glow op meant to neuter legitimate animal welfare and environmental concerns that affect human health
You've been bombarded with cold hard undeniable evidence of Bigfoot's existence this whole thread and tried to reach for the stars in an attempt to discredit at least ONE thing, which you've failed to do insofar. But you can't reach for the stars because your arms are too short. You keep getting PWNED, you keep coming back, making a complete fool out of yourself. You've had close to a week and you've not convinced ANYBODY.
No, no one has been bombarded with any evidence, except for patterson having the foresight to put some effort into modifying a monkey suit.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You were bombarded. You're shellshocked, you're back to your old debunked points. Bigfoot deniers can't roll with the big boys.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Making false claims about past events is pathetic but it doesn’t get as pathetic as doing so when you can scroll up and see exactly how false those claims are.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly. Bigfoot deniers can't escape the humiliation they received this whole thread. Put on leashes and dogwalked
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're a shitty troll.
Answer the question.
Where and when was the film developed?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Another bad haiku. Get new material
10 months ago
Anonymous
The entire premise of your argument was beyond bimbo tier
"The suit looks really good and there's no way someone from the 1960s could sew foam and cloth together that well!"
You fricking moron. Its not even that good >THE ARMS ARE LOOONG
The suits arms are longer than its wearers. That's why they can only swing around and bend very slightly, but they're not using their hands or making more dramatic movements like full elbow articulation or raising the arms above parallel. >IT WALKS WEIRD
You would too if you were in a suit with joints that didn't line up with your body and stiff boot-like ankles that barely moved, while trying extra hard to walk like a monkey.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Your idiotic attempts to convey what was said days ago falls flat when anyone can scroll back up and realize how it really went down. You're spiraling down and making yourself look more pitiful with every post
10 months ago
Anonymous
Whatever you need to tell yourself to believe this guy in a monkey suit is anything but
Where and when was the video developed?
We know it wasn't developed over the weekend.
So that's a lie.
So what else about the story is a lie?
Face it.
He planned out this hoax and got burned by the details.
Just like the hairy breasts.
Just like the shit footprint casts.
He didn't have the knowledge to pull it off.
Anyone who is dense enough to believe that Bigfoot is real will also likely believe in this nonsense: >Religion >Flat eartherism >Climate denialism >Antivaxxerism
All these people should be mocked and shunned. They are clearly too stupid to understand reality.
>Climate denialism
This planet has been in Flux since it was formed.
There has never been a point in its 4 and a half billion years when the climate was "stable".
correct
but there was never a point when one species burned an entire epochs worth of carbon in a couple of centuries, causing a spike of the sort typical of an epidemic of volcanic eruptions, and then said ITS OKAY BECAUSE NATURE HAS CAUSED SIMILAR EVENTS as if they are not actively fricking themselves over by making vast swaths of the planet unsuitable for settled agriculture and permanent human habitation.
>"global warming has happened before" logic: >i bite your neck and rip out your jugular >its okay because this happens in nature >It's not YOUR nature th-ACK >but it happens in nature okay? mmmm tasty blood
inb4 it's not caused by humans. Yes, it is, the entire world except one country that coincidentally exports and uses a shitload of coal and oil and owns half of the global auto, airline, and shipping industry agrees.
> Yes, it is, the entire world except one country that coincidentally exports and uses a shitload of coal and oil and owns half of the global auto, airline, and shipping industry agrees.
The entire world except one extremist political part from one country that only has two extremist political parties and uses....*
americans be like >i can't agree global warming is real because then i agree that children who can not consent to sex can consent to permanently arresting the normal course of sexual development based on propaganda >well i cant agree that we shoudn't do that to kids because then i'm agreeing that global warming isn't real
Okay, but the current climate shift is caused by greenhouse gas emissions, from human activity.
correct
but there was never a point when one species burned an entire epochs worth of carbon in a couple of centuries, causing a spike of the sort typical of an epidemic of volcanic eruptions, and then said ITS OKAY BECAUSE NATURE HAS CAUSED SIMILAR EVENTS as if they are not actively fricking themselves over by making vast swaths of the planet unsuitable for settled agriculture and permanent human habitation.
>"global warming has happened before" logic: >i bite your neck and rip out your jugular >its okay because this happens in nature >It's not YOUR nature th-ACK >but it happens in nature okay? mmmm tasty blood
inb4 it's not caused by humans. Yes, it is, the entire world except one country that coincidentally exports and uses a shitload of coal and oil and owns half of the global auto, airline, and shipping industry agrees.
Correct.
imitation is flattery
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this is a bigfoot thread. take your cringe up to /x/ or /misc/ or Wauf
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could it be he was prepared? no, it couldn't be... i mean he had his camera, it's not like he came prepared... lol bigfoot deniers are mentally ill
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this is simply not true nor does it matter
>this is a bigfoot thread
I didn't start the conversation about the Catholic church, I just replied to it. Cope and seethe.
I find it fake because it has weird boobs, speculative trait of Bigfoot of which Patterson was obsessed about even before the footage was recorded IIRC
We know he rented the camera weeks before.
He was actually sued by the owner because he didn't return it on time.
We know where he rented the horses from.
Patterson even stated he left the mountains around 4:40 pm on Friday.
Then went home.
Then called his brother inlaw.
Then told him the story and gave him the film and told him to go get it developed. >the only processing facility (1) within 500 miles closed at 5pm and was not open on the weekend.
Brother inlaw returned the film over the weekend.
Patterson called news outlets and scheduled a showing of the film on monday.
The actual evidence.
The film.
The only thing that matters.
An actual priceless object in his eyes.
Where was it developed? >I don't remember
Is literally the official response.
That's all we know. >I don't remember.
I know where I bought gas 3 months ago....
I'll add that "my brother inlaw had it developed" was only his answer after he was pressed for answers much, much later when it was discovered that no photo labs were open over the weekend he claimed it was developed.
The more you dig into the story, the more you realize it's bullshit.
Bigfoot "sightings" didn't stop when every hiker got a cellphone camera in their pocket.
But now they think they see a Bigfoot, record a video, then afterwards look at the video and go "oh, it was just a bear" and the encounter is never reported because they clarified to themselves that it was just...a bear
Both work. Aliens are demons in the sense that they have magician/deceiver rights due to their more advanced and different natures. They just can’t help it.
Humans are stuck in one dimension (time)
Aliens already know how our stories will play out, from beginning to end, in many-many different hypothetical hairs of time.
Physics would also break our minds by that point.
Oh, but I disahree, it was so old there's no way I can see those dummies could have made a suit that nice! They didn't even have ipads and gay marriage yet so I dont understand how stupid you would have to believe they could make a good monkey costume.
tell me how could you make a good monkey suit without photoshop and AI? I checkmated you, nonbelievers. Looks like my logic and reason won. That looks like a monkey to me and there is no other way I can see the evidence supporting bigfoot being real.
I have totally dominated this argument and I have won. I win.
>Best quality Bigfoot footage comes from a guy who was already filming a movie about Bigfoot and was drawing sketches of Bigfoot with breasts
WOW
WHAT
A
COINCIDENCE
>too stupid to get sarcasm
its an ape suit
the limb proportions were ever so slightly botched, just enough so that the suit could still be walked in
the wearer of the suit wore some sort of supporting structure underneath it, or had it built into the suit, to hide his real body shape
https://web2.ph.utexas.edu/~coker2/slides/bigfoot/suits.shtml
According to Morris, who was interviewed in 2003, in the summer of 1967 he got a call from Roger Patterson, who said he wanted to purchase a gorilla suit for a “rodeo act.” He bought the $435 suit, and later called to ask how to hide the zippers, extend the arms, and bulk up the shoulders. In October of 1967, Morris had the pleasure of seeing Patterson's footage of his costume on TV.
>mfw thread full of reddit spacing spooks desperately trying to "debunk" bigfoot
If I didn't believe before I would now. If you'd already won the propaganda would be unnecessary.
Bigfoot is just a CIA psyop and they're just trying to distract you from Littlefoot. In fact there exist 14 movies by enthusiasts that document the habitat of said creatures in a valley that exists outside of time. Sometimes rifts open up between their timeless reality and our current era and they can be spotted in the woods of the pacific northwest. Sometimes however these rifts also open in different places such as the Highlands, allowing for creatures to slip through.
You can see how the traps fit on top the shoulder blades, you can see the lower back curve.
Every time I look at this film it blows my mind morons are convinced it's a suit while looking at what's clearly a living animal. It doesn't get any more moronic than this.
Was it by saying "but the video is too low res so you cant tell" or what
lol!
10 months ago
Anonymous
summ like that. it makes sense
10 months ago
Anonymous
wow just like the video is to low res to say if you… can see muscles!?
Kek
10 months ago
Anonymous
what are u talking about?
10 months ago
Anonymous
They made casts of all the footprints.
Here's Patterson himself with the casts from the fake bigfoot encounter.
10 months ago
Anonymous
lemme try his logic.
when were the casts made? on a different time as when the video was shot? that means they're FAKE!!lol
10 months ago
Anonymous
>He was a professional bigfoot hunter so they had a couple hundred pounds of plaster back at camp just incase they came across footprints of bigfoot.
Not even kidding.
That's how they explained why he had everything ready to make the casts an hour after they saw bigfoot...
10 months ago
Anonymous
Those are the fakest looking feet on earth and likely produced way after the fact to reinforce the hoax
Here are real casts of real early hominid, but nonhuman footprints. A modern hoaxtser would probably base his fake casts on these but P&G didn't have google, lol.
10 months ago
Anonymous
3.7 million years old and the prints are more detailed and realistically shaped than any bigfoot cast ever lol
10 months ago
Anonymous
are you comparing prints from millions of years ago and prints that happened recently
10 months ago
Anonymous
3.7 million year old prints are more detailed and overall realistic than "fresh" bigfoot prints come the frick on
meanwhile bigfoot has ever-changing foot anatomy and the prints are always comically distorted
>https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/brief-communications/Murphy_PGFilmInsights.pdf >This composite shows three added images of the bigfoot superimposed and registered on the full frame 353 resulting in four bigfoot images in the same plane. The established average walking height of 87.5 inches
where the hell did they find this man to wear this costume?
Bigfoot deniers would see a 9 foot tall hominid running at them with bared teeth and bloodshot eyes and be calm because "bigfoot doesn't exist"
Think about that
Bigfoot believers will see a bear walking upright 300ft away barely visible in between some trees and freak out because "that's bigfoot"
Think about that
I know, bro. And while we're at it... I'm the Antichrist. I know, it's shocking, but I'm admitting to it...
That was done with a hammer and chisel out of a piece of rock 500 years ago.
Imagine what he would have done with a piece of shag carpet and a sewing machine.....500 years ago.
Now imagine what that person could do when they are obsessed and have 1968 available to them......
I don't have to imagine anything. Look at 2001 and Planet of the Apes. Both of them had inferior "costumes"
>Nobody "knows"
The film had to be developed beforehand.
Which means the time of the encounter is fraudulent.
Which means the encounter is a lie.
That's just fact at this point.
Would you like to continue this discussion?
Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions. You're having a discussion with yourself, why are you asking ME if I want you to continue it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
So you're a troll that knows it's fake.
Got it.
Some people think it's real, I'm glad you're not that moronic and are just bored.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There you go making conclusions again like a pathetic child. Guess my ethnicity and how many times I've had sex with your mother, why don't you
11 months ago
Anonymous
>muh dik in yer mum
Address all the discrepancies
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only discrepancy is between reality and your opinion of yourself. I've dominated this entire exchange
11 months ago
Anonymous
Your shitty opinions mean nothing.
I've stated facts upon facts and you have no explanation for a single one.
The footage is fake as frick, but surely it's possible for one primate to be different to all the others in terms of hair placement? Humans certainly are.
Interestingly, hairy (and pendulous) breasts are a very common feature of wildman stories from around the world. There are native American, Tibetan, Indonesian, Siberian, South-American, and Nepalese tales which all feature them.
Apart from the attributes which define them (lack of technology, hairiness) wildmen have several which turn up again and again is wildly different cultures:
Reversed or rotated feet
Females have long, sagging breasts covered in hair
Inhuman size (either small or large) and strength (always super-human)
Incapable of human speech
Abduction of humans (usually children or teenage girls)
Associated with storms and bad weather
As far as I can tell, the only cultures which don't really have stories of hairy humanoids with at least some of these features are from Africa, Australia, and the Middle East. That kind of suggests there could be an extremely old ur-myth orginating somewhere in central Asia about 50-60,000 y.a. (which is about the right time and place for contact with Neanderthals and Denisovans).
The "gret flood" is in many cultures, does that mean Noah and his arc are real?
Kraken are in many cultures, does that mean cthulu is real?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Kraken are in many cultures, does that mean cthulu is real
giant squids literally turned out to be real. you're bad at arguing
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Noah and his arc are real
yes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods
There are plenty of mundane explanations for why many cultures all have great deluge stories - and the simplest is "Humans experienced post-Ice Age flooding, you moron". Ice age glaciers dammed rivers, creating massive lakes, and when those glaciers melted then half of continents were flooded. And this is not up for debate, they did happen, the question is whether humans experienced them and to what extent. It's perfectly reasonable to speculate that they did, and the end result was a regional flood was interpreted or exaggerated as a "global flood" with only a few survivors.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>interpreted or exaggerated
That's my point. >some farmer finds sea shells ontop of a mountain 5,000 years ago >"this mountain must have been underwater"
It's the same with bigfoot. >get a glimpse of a bear walking on 2 legs >"it must be a hairy man because bears don't walk on 2 legs"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And this is not up for debate, they did happen, the question is whether humans experienced them and to what extent.
I'd say a more pertinent question would be: do the myths derive from actual experience of an event tens of thousands of years ago, or are they just more recent inventions which happen to resemble each other? We can just about reconstruct some likely elements of Proto-Indo-European myth, which is only about 7,500 years old, and that's with the help of literature from thousands of years ago. So it seems like myth-elements might survive about 5-6,000 years of oral tradition at best. Suggesting flood myths are based on events tens of thousands of years ago seems to be stretching it, when the basic premise seems pretty straightforward to just imagine.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Suggesting flood myths are based on events tens of thousands of years ago seems to be stretching it
…No? Humans play telephone.
Humans are also obsessed with ideas and archetypes — it’s why you have dual analogies like a Sky Father and an Earth Mother everywhere.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>does that mean Noah and his arc are real?
why not?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The "gret flood" is in many cultures, does that mean Noah and his arc are real?
We already know that floods have happened in the deep past, and from the perspective of primitives that was their whole world. Stories will be told. Approximations.
10 months ago
Irish :/
holy shit Anon that was cold as frick
10 months ago
Anonymous
That anon is moronic and living in a fantasy world where he ignores everything that's posted.
I've countered every point he attempted to make.
He refused to respond to any facts of the encounter that didn't fit his narrative.
He's a loser that was btfo but thinks he won because he didn't answer.
10 months ago
Anonymous
you got owned upwards of 6 times in this thread
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why did they lie about when the video was made?
Answer that single question.
10 months ago
Anonymous
bro why you asking me? why did who lie to whom?
10 months ago
Anonymous
See
So this guy has never seen a Bigfoot.
He takes people on hunts for Bigfoot.
He rented an expensive camera to make a film about Bigfoot (complete with a costume, that's never been seen).
While scouting filming locations He finally sees a Bigfoot, and "just happens" to have this expensive, rented camera in his saddle bag.
Now the film from this encounter should be the most valuable thing he will ever possess.
So he gives it to his brother in law (on a Friday night) and tells him to get it developed.
Monday afternoon he shows the movie.
There was no film processor open on the weekend to develop that film within 500 miles.
When asked where it was developed, the brother in law replied with "I don't remember".
Ya, totally legit guys....
This isn't my take on it.
This is just historical fact.
After nearly 6 decades nobody knows where or when this magical film was developed.
Why lie about that? >because it was a hoax they setup and never thought about the details.
10 months ago
Anonymous
all i see is a tower of disjointed questions and you seem to have derived a schizophrenic conclusion out of them without anyone else's input
Shhhh.
You're gonna kill the vibe dude.
You might as well bring up the construction worker that crushed the 55 gallon drum with the forklift and showed it to the rookie as a joke and said it was "the bigfoot" >this is actually what started Patterson on his quest and is a verified hoax
Most of you forget (or don't know) that they were out there filming a documentary about bigfoot.
Yes, these guys wanted to film bigfoot and found it the first day a few miles from the highway parking. >It was a coincidence. They were lucky
>People in the 1960s could not possible make an ape costume
Oh sorry I didn't know you needed advanced semiconductor tech to put foam, cloth, and fake fur together in the shape of an ape.
And someone tell those ancient greek sculptors that their work looks too good given the time, place, and means available
They bought the costume from a professional costumer maker. And didn't use the head. They used modified wigs to make it look more like a hairy man's head on a monkeys body.
Impossible. It was a world class costume. Greek sculptors sculpting sculptures (see a pattern here? not "costumes") have jack shit to do with two hicks somehow finding a world-class costume designer
How much do you know about world class costume design, pray tell? Cosplay, at least? Halloween decorations?? Anatomy, even?
https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/essays/Keith_rev.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20160824105039/http://www2.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/Munns-%20Meldrum%20Final%20draft.pdf
>In fact, the film subject reveals a great contrast to both Andre and Chewbacca insofar as the hair on its neck and shoulders is identical to the hair everywhere else, which lies flat against the body. The head/shoulder connection is perfectly visible and there is no excessive hair at all to obscure the smooth shoulders and back. This is not standard procedure, thick reams of heavy hair being the tool of choice to conceal pesky wrinkles and bubbles in the neckline. In Planet of the Apes for example, every ape involved, females included, have long 3-4-inch beards (Fig. 4). And if that was not enough, high collars for good measure. The result is a neckline 100% obscured. >If the [Patterson-Gimlin] film was indeed faked, one must ask why the pioneering technique for disguising seams without lengthened hair has not filtered throughout the Hollywood industry in the ensuing 40 years. >The [Patterson-Gimlin] film creates another pair of challenges here. First, not only are the upper limbs disproportionately long by human standards, the length is not achieved by merely elongating the forearm. In other words, the upper arm is elongated as well -- her elbow is in the proper position. Second, her wrist and hands are also seen to be moving. No explanation for this has ever been offered by the debunkers.
this is interesting
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's 100% bullshit.
Stand up and look at where your hand lines up on your leg.
Now look at the video.
There is no difference.
11 months ago
Anonymous
my hands don't go down to my knees
I don't understand how supposed experts can make claims on the quality of the suit from such poor quality footage.
For all we know, the suit is full of seams we simply can't see at such a distance and in such grainy footage.
you're exaggerating massively
11 months ago
Anonymous
>my hands don't go down to my knees
Neither does the Patterson video.
Look at it again.
Hand is right under its ass.
11 months ago
Anonymous
its arms are long as shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
Since I just proved you wrong what other bullshit talking points are you going to move onto next?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>arms are clearly long >"no they aren't, why are you still making claims I've dismissed by just telling you not to use your eyes?"
11 months ago
Anonymous
Suits do not have to match the wearers proportions unless they require their full range of motion. Period. Are they bending their arms all the way? Using their hands? Nope.
Such a fit would never hold up on the bit screen but this is pretty low resolution film.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In fact, the film subject reveals a great contrast to both Andre and Chewbacca insofar as the hair on its neck and shoulders is identical to the hair everywhere else, which lies flat against the body. The head/shoulder connection is perfectly visible and there is no excessive hair at all to obscure the smooth shoulders and back. This is not standard procedure, thick reams of heavy hair being the tool of choice to conceal pesky wrinkles and bubbles in the neckline. In Planet of the Apes for example, every ape involved, females included, have long 3-4-inch beards (Fig. 4). And if that was not enough, high collars for good measure. The result is a neckline 100% obscured. >If the [Patterson-Gimlin] film was indeed faked, one must ask why the pioneering technique for disguising seams without lengthened hair has not filtered throughout the Hollywood industry in the ensuing 40 years. >The [Patterson-Gimlin] film creates another pair of challenges here. First, not only are the upper limbs disproportionately long by human standards, the length is not achieved by merely elongating the forearm. In other words, the upper arm is elongated as well -- her elbow is in the proper position. Second, her wrist and hands are also seen to be moving. No explanation for this has ever been offered by the debunkers.
this is interesting
>they just broke the guys arm beneath the elbow so it could bend that way chud!
…
11 months ago
Anonymous
>still on the "poorly fitted suit" argument
It's really amazing how poorly the suit fits and how lazy the hoaxers must have been, yet all their laziness just makes the video look less like a person in a suit. Just fascinating.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's really amazing how poorly the suit fits and how lazy the hoaxers must have been, yet all their laziness just makes the video look less like a person in a suit. Just fascinating.
Where did I say they were lazy? Obviously they put some thought into this if they wanted the limb proportions of the suit to be more inhuman and wore padding under it. They put so much effort into this hoax they had a few slip ups, but obviously those weren't enough to convince you it was bullshit.
You argue like a woman. Seriously.
Shut up, lady. If you respond to me with more vagspeak don't expect a dignified response.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you know i just realized this recurring pgf film autist is definitely a woman or at least such a trooned out troony that they have the mind of one >its not possible for a suit to be well constructed because... its old! teehee >irrational responses galore >quotes things nobody said and then sticks with that as an argument >selective memory >"im right that settles it" when out of ammo >lacks basic spatial reasoning skills and creative problem solving
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you always accusing people of being a woman or troony? I notice you in the dinosaur debate threads, and there I'm on your side, but I'm starting to realize you're just projecting your own insecurities onto people. It's pretty sad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not an argument schitzo.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This isn't a debate anymore. I'm saying you're acting like a lolcow. Tone it down.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's already been pointed out why padding is unfeasible. You're just a gay projecting his incompetence on others
11 months ago
Anonymous
>padding cant be worm because…. Thats silly! >look this blurry image looks real if you stare really hard
Shut up and go make me a sandwich
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're so mad lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sandwich, woman.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dude.
Are you an idiot or a troll?
The "bigfoot"s elbows and wrists literally line up the same place as any normal human.
What do you see?
Tell us where you think it's wrists and elbows line up with the torso and legs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
Look at the leg, gay. There's no suit on this.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh sorry. It thought you were arguing against it.
I just came in.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I just came in.
dude, you should pull out
11 months ago
Anonymous
You are seriously a fricking idiot with zero understanding of anatomy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
seems like you're blind to arm length anon. how many pictures of athletic high melanin men do you have readily saved on your computer? you know we're talking about a different breed of monkeys
11 months ago
Anonymous
That was a random "sports ball player" picture I searched for this thread.
And you might actually be moronic if you think the Patterson costume has unusually long arms- you should get teated.
11 months ago
Anonymous
One from your folder no doubt. And you offered to let me suck your breasts too, that's classy
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sandwich, woman.
This moron argues like a 13 year old and it's so conspicuous he thinks we can't tell he's samegayging. Go back.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Get back on your medication
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hahahahahahaha
Are you trying to imply his proportions magically changed from the previous pic?!
Wrist is still in line with bottom of his ass.
He's lifting his right leg.
And you are a fricking idiot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i am telling you his arms are long as hell
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't understand how supposed experts can make claims on the quality of the suit from such poor quality footage.
For all we know, the suit is full of seams we simply can't see at such a distance and in such grainy footage.
That was done with a hammer and chisel out of a piece of rock 500 years ago.
Imagine what he would have done with a piece of shag carpet and a sewing machine.....500 years ago.
Now imagine what that person could do when they are obsessed and have 1968 available to them......
>World class
Not even close. I understand you feel the need to REPETITIVELY assert this nonsensical non-argument to "keep believing, maaaan" but it is what it is. They purchased a better than average ape costume from someone who made them professionally, and tossed the head.
You are seeing what you want to see based on the godawful resolution of 16mm film. I could send 4000 pro hunters out in the woods with Sony A7RV cameras and 70-300mm zoom lenses to get some bigfoot footage with so many megapixels you can see individual hairs on a person 50 feet away and AI enabled autofocus. Not one would come back with authentic bigfoot footage.
Endangered ass gorillas are still sighted by people looking for them, and even those who aren't, like the local africans. Why has no one seen bigfoot? Why can't someone shoot him? Where are the dead bigfoots? Bones take years to vanish in the woods. We'd surely find a skull. Nope. Nothing.
Adorable how your pea sized brain switched from the costume to remains. How about to stick to the subject and quit speaking thru farts? I already posted evidence that should foster reasonable doubt in anybody.
You didn't post any evidence because there isn't any
You posted the assertions of a bigfoot believer.
The whole of the united states is about half the size of the range of gorillas. We can find gorillas, not just gorillas, but specific, individual groillas in this range. Why can no one find bigfoot in one corner of the US?
I know, bro. And while we're at it... I'm the Antichrist. I know, it's shocking, but I'm admitting to it...
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I don't have to imagine anything. Look at 2001 and Planet of the Apes. Both of them had inferior "costumes"
You're seeing those costumes on 35mm film, not 16mm. And by god man they look the fricking same.
And tell me how your argument makes rational sense? Hollywood of the day had a lot of "good enough" special effects because the budget got tight with all the big name actors. An independent artist doing comissioned work could do better, and TELL ME HOW
HOW THE FRICK
BEING FROM 1960 PREVENTS A PERSON FROM ARRANGING FOAM, CLOTH, AND FAKE FUR IN THE SHAPE OF A GORILLA
WHEN THIS ACTIVITY ONLY REQUIRES SCISSORS, A NEEDLE, ZIPPERS, AND SOME THREAD
11 months ago
Anonymous
I posted professionally collected evidence from reliable sources. Which is more than I can say for you. >And by god man they look the fricking same.
No they do not. And if they looked the fricking same, that destroys your earlier point about how easy it would be to make them. One came from Hollywood with a greater budget and more seasoned, critically acclaimed (2001 won an Oscar for SFX; Planet of the Apes was nominated for the same thing) professionals. The other, you're assuming, comes from a pair of hicks hiring an unknown world-class costume designer with less budget.
I don't give a rat's ass if you believe it or you visualize me wearing tinfoil on my head. It's simply worrisome you can't admit how fishy this all looks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>specific gorillas
I can go to Africa and track down a Silverback named Jeffery that was last sighted in 1982...
But the north American bigfoot.....
11 months ago
Anonymous
Is more intelligent, perceptive and elusive
11 months ago
Anonymous
>super smart bigfoot has foiled modern infared surveillance tech
Next, he will hop dimensions
11 months ago
Anonymous
you're assuming infrared tech is omnipresent, that mountains and thick trees don't exist and that bigfoot doesn't hide anywhere
Looks too good now. Show me one ape costume that looks this good.
George of the Jungle?
Congo?
2001?
Any other big budget ape suit movies? Not to mention that recreation of the Patterson footage where they tried to make the most convincing hoax they could but it looked nothing like the real thing.
It’s real. Idk why trannies and reddit get so angry at bigfoot existing. Because that goes against what their phone (bible) says on their precious Wikipedia and Google (psalms).
>Idk why trannies and reddit get so angry at bigfoot existing
i don't know either. it's like it's their job to get offended. they can't even admit that if they think it's a costume, it would be a damned good one. there's literally nothing wrong with saying "it's a good costume but i'm not sold on bigfoot" but it's as if their personal realities would crumble if they concede this one thing
>notice the arms!
Has it occurred to you that a suits arms can be longer than its wearers? This does not allow the full range of elbow motion, but notice, they don't use it.
>Idk why trannies and reddit get so angry at bigfoot existing
i don't know either. it's like it's their job to get offended. they can't even admit that if they think it's a costume, it would be a damned good one. there's literally nothing wrong with saying "it's a good costume but i'm not sold on bigfoot" but it's as if their personal realities would crumble if they concede this one thing
>It would be a good one
It looks like it might have been a few hundred bucks. Where is the evidence that is not a blurry 16mm film frame where you can see whatever you look for? Including faces in the leaves?
Where are the corpses? Where is the IR footage? Where are the hunted bigfoots? Why can we find gorillas in africa that is much larger but as soon as everyone got a 50mp camera in their pocket, no deluge of bigfoot evidence and all the stories go silent?
are you interviewing me right now or are you going to drop an actual point after the thousandth pointless question? you've been given proof that it's better than anything hollywood had at the time and definitely above anything patterson and gimlin had access to.
>Where are the corpses? Where is the IR footage? Where are the hunted bigfoots? Why can we find gorillas in africa that is much larger but as soon as everyone got a 50mp camera in their pocket, no deluge of bigfoot evidence and all the stories go silent?
There are theories about this, and they mostly involve either extraterrestrial or interdimensional explanations. Don't worry, I'm not saying they're likely, I'm just saying that "Bigfoot is a North American Great Ape" is just one theory among several.
And you could say similar things about aliens as well. If aliens exist, we should see more evidence of them besides "weird lights in the sky sometimes". Where are the small fragments of UFO crashes? Why do aliens play grabass with us and not just contact us normally (like there's the interstellar zoo hypothesis, but there's also reports of aliens contacting people directly with vague absurd prophecies and then letting them go, what's up with that?)? Why don't we see megastructures or evidence of FTL in astronomy? There's a lot of stuff that would imply extraterrestrial life that just isn't there, and yet the idea for UFO's being "real" on some level becomes more and more mainstream. It is interesting, and you shouldn't just dismiss it. There are lots of explanations. This is how science works. Sometimes it can feel silly, but we should always be open to weird shit maybe being true. After all, all those claims about people finding "dragon bones" turned out to be true. We just call them dinosaurs now.
UFO literally means "some flying shit I don't know what it is" Maybe because the one viewing lack the knowledge needed to identify it, maybe because it is too far away or the image is too shitty, or maybe because it isn't even a flying object, people just assumed it was. Cases of conspiracy theories involving alien spaceships and stuff I think a good chunk come from the government using it to distract people from shit they really are doing. This includes the recent one "Alien mothership is watching us with tiny probes" we had recently.
About people claiming being in contact with aliens, people make the most wild claims all the time. One interesting phenomenon is sleep paralysis. Sometimes when you are waking up or falling asleep you can enter a state where your lose voluntary control of your body and is unable to move or talk but are conscious about your surrounding. In this state it is common to feel a presence in the room, have auditory hallucinations (humming sounds, zap sounds, whispers, etc), visual hallucinations (some shadowy figure, a ghost, a demon, an alien, a succubus/incubus, a monster), and even feel things like a pressure in the chest, being pushed down, floating, pressure in genitals/anus and strong emotions like anxiety, fear, etc. These things are extremely realistic, I have experience it myself when I was a kid, my luck is that my visual hallucination was a combination of two toys I had moving on its own so I was sure it wasn't real after the event ended. Even if someone tried to come up with a supernatural explanation like ghosts controlling the toys they couldn't be combined in the way I saw without destroying them in the first place but I was terrified during the even and even if I tried to scream with all my might I had no voice. Anyway this kind of experience is extremely similar to many cases of people claiming to have been visited by aliens (and also by demons, angels, ghosts, and a bunch of other supernatural creatures). cont
When you consider how rare it is for life to form and blossom into something self replicating and capable of genetic modification, even when conditions are ideal, and how few are far between planets are that are capable of supporting life, and how astronomically long it took for life on earth to actually become intelligent enough to contact other nearby planets, I honestly think it’s incredibly unlikely that we’ll ever find anything beyond microbial life. I automatically assume all UFO and alien conspiracy shit is fake
11 months ago
Anonymous
I automatically assume aliens are here, since it is incredibly arrogant to just up and assume that aliens have only noticed us now—not even humans specifically.
I’m sorry. It’s just logic. If we can leave, even if only hypothetically, then that means something can come to us.
It also means that, if they are here, they are not just advanced, they are ADVANCED… Likely went through numerous thresholds and barriers we can’t even guess at; and look at how fast things are progressing for us.
It makes -zero- sense that -nothing- would be aware of us. And if they didn’t want to be seen, they wouldn’t be seen.
But that’s not the biggest red flag— it’s all those small town communities that call 911 at the same damn time when something truly bizarre is going down— or are we just going to assume that 50-100+ elderly people were all in on it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>we just going to assume that 50-100+ elderly people were all in on it?
Unintentionally, yeah, it's possible.
I'm more willing to believe it's mass hysteria from unexplained weather phenomenon. We still don't understand how things like ball lightning and skyquakes work, there's still a lot of mysteries about our planet to work out before we start conclusively blaming ayy lmaos.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>there's still a lot of mysteries about our planet to work out before we start conclusively blaming ayy lmaos.
The problem is that some things react too intelligently, artificially, to believably be anything nature/natural.
There is a limit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I assume if aliens were here we either wouldn't be here (aliens would take over the planet before humans appeared) or would be living in/around their cities build here the same way Europeans colonized a bunch of areas or how ants live in our homes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Life on earth has existed for billions of years and we’ve only been a space fairing civilization for under 100
Even if two intelligent civilizations ever exist within close enough proximity to eachother to feasibly reach, the chances of them both being space fairing or intelligent at overlapping timeframes is astronomically low
Don’t get your hopes up that we will ever find civilization anywhere else in space
10 months ago
Anonymous
The problem is, some intelligences out there probably perceive time non-linearly. Probably looking at us from beginning to end. By that point contact of any kind is pointless, redundant.
Another fact that supports my hypothesis that all this alien contacts is just a social phenomenon is that how people describe the aliens follow popular culture. The Grey alien that is common in USA was popularized after Barney and Betty Hill abduction case. We used to have a much higher variety of aliens, hairy aliens, buff aliens, wearing metallic clothes full of colorful buttons. Not only that but the culture the person belong to also affects how the alien encounters are described. There is also ufologists turning everything into aliens. For example the Canvey Island Monster. I can't find a source explaining the origin of the image nowadays but I remember it being made by ufologists when I read about it a long time ago.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But the locals recognized the fish as an angler fish and this is the photo of said monster.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The Grey alien that is common in USA was popularized after Barney and Betty Hill abduction case
The original grey alien was a crash test dummy from the roswell crash that was recording effects of near supersonic flight on a potential pilot.
The craft crashed because it was remote controlled and the early system did not have a high enough refresh rate for the ground pilot to compensate at those speeds.
The engineer who designed the dummy didn't want a farmer to risk his life attempting to "rescue" it from a crash so he made the proportions close enough to human to record viable data but obscure enough to not be mistaken as an actual person.
It was originally painted bright orange but was charred from the fire after the crash. Which is a shame because neon colored aliens in sci-fi would have been cooler.
This generalized alien design became the standard in the global consciousness
11 months ago
Anonymous
The point of that bit of history is that a single example of what an "alien" looks like became the standard worldwide.
It's now "accepted" that the Grey's are the only true aliens and previous descriptions like
https://i.imgur.com/MZiGk5p.jpg
Another fact that supports my hypothesis that all this alien contacts is just a social phenomenon is that how people describe the aliens follow popular culture. The Grey alien that is common in USA was popularized after Barney and Betty Hill abduction case. We used to have a much higher variety of aliens, hairy aliens, buff aliens, wearing metallic clothes full of colorful buttons. Not only that but the culture the person belong to also affects how the alien encounters are described. There is also ufologists turning everything into aliens. For example the Canvey Island Monster. I can't find a source explaining the origin of the image nowadays but I remember it being made by ufologists when I read about it a long time ago.
Canvey Island Monster are no longer used.
It's the same with bigfoot/yeti.
People are aware of the stories and descriptions so when they encounter something they don't understand their brain lies and tells them it's bigfoot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Another one >"Hairy Dwarves" are a species of short, humanoid mammalian cryptids reported to be of extraterrestrial origin. Nowadays, they're regarded as a very rare UFO-case category that has been largely dismissed with the arrival of the more familiar "Grey" aliens. Cases like these actually follow a trend of older UFO encounters taking fanciful takes on alien life, with the "Hairy Dwarves" being an example of the more wild designs people reported alien visitors as having.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not even that worldwide, more specifically USA. >Greys are often involved in alien abduction claims. Among reports of alien encounters, Greys make up about 50% in Australia, 73% in the United States, 48% in continental Europe, and around 12% in the United Kingdom.
in UK the Nordics are more common. You can thank your media for making alien encounters being creepy bald manlets probing your butts instead of tall blondes.
My mother saw a UFO when she was younger. Triangle of lights high up in the sky, rotating and changing direction as it moved across the sky. No doubt some man-made thing, but I think it's interesting that she saw it in Ireland, since usually you only hear about UFOs in the US.
I agree with your sleep-paralysis theory, plus probably a lot of MK Ultra hallucinations and kidnappings that the CIA conducted.
One of the biggest mistakes they made with the costume is that they covered the breasts with hair (yes the bigfoot is supposedly female).
Primates do not have hair on their breasts.
This was probably done because Gimlin was tall enough to pretend to be a female bigfoot but not tall enough to be a believable male.
Unfortunately neither of them had a zoology degree or they could have easily avoided this mistake.
The footage is fake as frick, but surely it's possible for one primate to be different to all the others in terms of hair placement? Humans certainly are.
Interestingly, hairy (and pendulous) breasts are a very common feature of wildman stories from around the world. There are native American, Tibetan, Indonesian, Siberian, South-American, and Nepalese tales which all feature them.
Apart from the attributes which define them (lack of technology, hairiness) wildmen have several which turn up again and again is wildly different cultures:
Reversed or rotated feet
Females have long, sagging breasts covered in hair
Inhuman size (either small or large) and strength (always super-human)
Incapable of human speech
Abduction of humans (usually children or teenage girls)
Associated with storms and bad weather
As far as I can tell, the only cultures which don't really have stories of hairy humanoids with at least some of these features are from Africa, Australia, and the Middle East. That kind of suggests there could be an extremely old ur-myth orginating somewhere in central Asia about 50-60,000 y.a. (which is about the right time and place for contact with Neanderthals and Denisovans).
>As far as I can tell, the only cultures which don't really have stories of hairy humanoids with at least some of these features are from Africa, Australia, and the Middle East.
The myths are probably from people getting spooked by bears standing upright.
Very plausible. Bear-cults were certainly a thing in the Palaeolithic and many wildmen stories have a lot of bear-like elements (Nepalese ones, for instance, are often explicitly described as a type of bear or bear-man). The geography fits well too; basically all the regions where the myths are common have bears, or had bears recently, or were populated by people who moved from a region with bears.
Doesn't explain stuff like the reversed feet and pendulous hairy breasts though. As tempting as it is to pin those on some extinct species, having done a lot of reading on the subject I'm inclined towards explaining it as simply something made-up which happened to persist a weirdly long time. There's no real reason to think that stories based on reality are more compelling or long-lived than purely invented ones.
I would have assumed that a lot of modern 'sightings' of wildmen are bears too, but the evidence doesn't seem consistent with that. I read a book by a guy who did genetic tests on a shit-ton of 'bigfoot hair' submitted by people who were adamant they saw bigfoot. None of them were bears (or primates, or totally unknown creatures); most of the ones which were actually hair came from cows. So I think that maybe total fricking hallucination might be a better explanation (assuming that hoaxers wouldn't be daft enough to send samples they knew would get proven fake).
Very real, this was filmed before planet of the apes yet somehow some amateur made a better costume?
Look at the thigh, it doesn't move like a costume over a person would, it flexes and moves like muscle.
So this guy has never seen a Bigfoot.
He takes people on hunts for Bigfoot.
He rented an expensive camera to make a film about Bigfoot (complete with a costume, that's never been seen).
While scouting filming locations He finally sees a Bigfoot, and "just happens" to have this expensive, rented camera in his saddle bag.
Now the film from this encounter should be the most valuable thing he will ever possess.
So he gives it to his brother in law (on a Friday night) and tells him to get it developed.
Monday afternoon he shows the movie.
There was no film processor open on the weekend to develop that film within 500 miles.
When asked where it was developed, the brother in law replied with "I don't remember".
He wrote a book about bigfoot (before the encounter).
You could hire him to give a lecture on bigfoot (before the encounter).
He was facing bankruptcy (before the encounter).
I also find it odd now that every hiker has a 12 billion pixel camera phone in their pocket the Bigfoot sightings have stopped...
They returned to make impressions of the footprints and look around the encounter site multiple times but when others asked to be taken to the location they "couldn't find it". The location was rediscovered a few years ago.
Although they made casts of the prints they never measured the trees the "bigfoot" walked past to verify its height- even though this was a group of "professional" bigfoot hunters.
The original film disappeared, only copies remain.
He wrote a book about bigfoot (before the encounter).
You could hire him to give a lecture on bigfoot (before the encounter).
He was facing bankruptcy (before the encounter).
I also find it odd now that every hiker has a 12 billion pixel camera phone in their pocket the Bigfoot sightings have stopped...
Some other tidbits.
They returned to make impressions of the footprints and look around the encounter site multiple times but when others asked to be taken to the location they "couldn't find it". The location was rediscovered a few years ago.
Although they made casts of the prints they never measured the trees the "bigfoot" walked past to verify its height- even though this was a group of "professional" bigfoot hunters.
The original film disappeared, only copies remain.
You forgot the most important tidbit that nobody ever brings up.
Earlier that same year the footage was caught, Patterson was trying to make a docudrama about Ape Valley and got as far as shooting a few scenes, meaning he almost certainly had a Bigfoot costume for the film.
He wrote a book about bigfoot (before the encounter).
You could hire him to give a lecture on bigfoot (before the encounter).
He was facing bankruptcy (before the encounter).
I also find it odd now that every hiker has a 12 billion pixel camera phone in their pocket the Bigfoot sightings have stopped...
nor this
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You forgot the most important tidbit that nobody ever brings up.
Earlier that same year the footage was caught, Patterson was trying to make a docudrama about Ape Valley and got as far as shooting a few scenes, meaning he almost certainly had a Bigfoot costume for the film.
Hahahahahhajahajaha >the facts surrounding the incident don't matter!!!! >just look at the guy in the gorilla suit!!!! >it almost looks real!!!!
What a fricking douche.
Completely real
The forest in the background is real, the gorilla costume is real, the man in the costume is real, the photograph is real, the pretending-to-be-bigfoot prank is real.
For FIFTY-SIX YEARS no one has been able to produce a single scrap of evidence of a great ape living or dead in the pacific northwest despite absolute dick-shitting frickloads of people trying. >No skulls, no bones, no fur, no photos or video footage despite the ubiquity of high definition cameras over the past few decades, not even a broken tooth
You tell me.
Real.
Only people who judge at first glance think otherwise.
If you look into it, you realize it's impossible for anyone to replicate the walk.
There's a reason why to this day it's regarded the best footage.
It alternates between crouching and having straight legs while it walks. It's head level never changes. This is literally impossible for a human, but other apes can only walk with bent legs.
It's a stabilized version so you can focus on the "bigfoot"s movement instead of shaky camera work.
Within the first few frames you can see the right leg is fully extended.
because trump isn't wearing a mis-fit suit where the suits knees and hips don't line up with his body and the ankles are poorly articulated, bordering on locked.
he also isn't wearing any layers of padding under that suit, further making motion awkward.
>yyyyou didnt disprove the walk
It is a man in an ape suit made for someone who is taller than him, wearing diapers for padding, walking awkwardly because the suit has poorly articulated ankles, imitating a groucho squat-walk.
It's a suit. Where's the real evidence? >WELLL GORILLAS WERENT DISCOVERED UNTIL...
By europeans, while the natives were fricking eating them the whole time. Now we have them in zoos.
I like how there's this God of Gaps where if someone points out something strange in the video that implies it might not be a man in a costume, then there is an even stranger explanation for how a bunch of pranksters achieved that effect despite it being completely unlikely they expected such scrutiny. >wearing diapers for padding
Just stop and fricking listen to yourself.
Sure anon. There is a large undocumented primate wandering around woods that have been heavily traveled by the forestry industry, hikers, and weed farmers and it has left exactly ZERO traces in the environment.
A large primate that just so happens to be the source of multiple confessed hoaxes and straight up scams preying on gullible idiots.
But whatever, here's one grainy video that looks like a guy in a suit but that totally isn't a guy in a suit because you insist.
Not to mention the fact that every fricking bigfoot moron eventually backpedals into claiming its an inter-dimensional being because the astounding lack of evidence speaks volumes to your tinfoil hat flat earth tier claims.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You see, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation of why we don't see them in the woods anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/f6nsELR.gif
Ever notice how politicians tend to look a bit weird? Odd proportions, weird skin, clumsy... How when you dig up you find out that despite supposedly being in opposite sides they often have connections to the same people like Epstein. How since the 60s shaving, laser depilation, makeup, wigs and hair transplant improved and became more common? Bigfoot not only left the woods long ago but also successfully infiltrated the government class. They distract the masses with their fake theater making people believe politicians from left and right are opposites when in fact they are mostly bigfoots working together to keep us under their control.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>laser mustache removal for Armenian women is simply an R&D cost recovery application for the sasquatch overlords....
As far as conspiracy theories go this on is on the believable side.
>Somehow, someone wearing padding under an ill fitting monkey suit sounds stranger than a magical primate that never leaves remains, stopped appearing on film after P&G fricked off, that we can't find with IR cameras on drones
>achieved that effect
It's has the resolution of an atari 64.
Any "effect" is in your imagination.
You can't even tell if it's fur, carpet or fricking lint from the dryer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So basically the arguments are:
Sure anon. There is a large undocumented primate wandering around woods that have been heavily traveled by the forestry industry, hikers, and weed farmers and it has left exactly ZERO traces in the environment.
A large primate that just so happens to be the source of multiple confessed hoaxes and straight up scams preying on gullible idiots.
But whatever, here's one grainy video that looks like a guy in a suit but that totally isn't a guy in a suit because you insist.
Not to mention the fact that every fricking bigfoot moron eventually backpedals into claiming its an inter-dimensional being because the astounding lack of evidence speaks volumes to your tinfoil hat flat earth tier claims.
>BUT IT'S FAKE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
Argument from ignorance. It has yet to be proven, so therefore it must be false. We must dismiss the evidence, because where is all the evidence we should have found by now?
>Somehow, someone wearing padding under an ill fitting monkey suit sounds stranger than a magical primate that never leaves remains, stopped appearing on film after P&G fricked off, that we can't find with IR cameras on drones
>IT HAD TO BE DIAPERS THAT WERE USED TO ACHIEVE AN AFFECT THAT MADE IT SEEM LESS LIKE A MAN WEARING A SUIT! >THIS IS FAR MORE LIKELY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FOUND IT YET!
The diapers is a complete non-sequitur. Pranksters would just put on the suit, and why would it be ill-fitting if it was custom made? No store bought costume was ever found that is comparable.
>IT HAS BAD RESOLUTION, YOU CAN'T TELL ANYTHING, IT IS JUST YOUR IMAGINATION
Actually, no it doesn't and the footage has been stabilized to such an extent that people bicker about hair patterns and muscle under the skin. You just claim it has bad resolution because you don't want to debate those arguments.
It's like talking to flat earthers. Any evidence is dismissed instantly because they're right and anything proving them wrong must be false. And what's even better is you think me mocking your shitty arguments must mean I believe in Bigfoot. Do you know why I don't believe in Bigfoot? Because I fricking live in the Pacific Northwest and you'd at the very least find scat of this if it were a real animal. There are alternative theories, like extraterrestrial or interdimensional or really weird shit like the idea that some entity is manipulating human culture to achieve a desired effect - all very interesting ideas to me personally. But just as ideas, ones which you'll probably kneejerk criticize for no other reason than you don't think for yourselves and just nod your head at whatever the television tells you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>people bicker about hair patterns and muscle under the skin
Nobody of importance. Just morons like yourself.
Every person with an actual education or degree in biology or similar fields sees the video as a hoax.
Once again.
Let's talk about THE FACTS of the so called encounter.
When and where was the film developed?
Why did they lie about the date of the filming?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Every person with an actual education or degree in biology or similar fields sees the video as a hoax.
Where is the proof of this hoax? >When and where was the film developed?
Why does this matter? I thought it was a simple costume. >Why did they lie about the date of the filming?
Why does this matter? I thought it was a simple costume.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>BUT IT'S FAKE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
That's actually a really solid argument though. If you know something isn't consistent with what you know of reality, it makes sense to have a very sceptical attitude towards it.
You literally take this approach yourself when you say: >Do you know why I don't believe in Bigfoot? Because I fricking live in the Pacific Northwest and you'd at the very least find scat of this if it were a real animal.
You feel safe dismissing the possibility of bigfoot existing (as a conventional animal, at least) because its existence would be contrary to your understanding of your environment (presumably reasonably reality-based).
Completely fake. The forests of North America are perfectly safe, and you should go camping as soon as possible, preferably without your cellphone (you need to get away from it anyway). I'd also recommend bringing lots of beef jerky with you, and bathing in pig grease. Keeps the mosquitoes off you.
This but unironically. Humans are the apex predator and everything fears us. It helps if you're fat because that signals to the animals that you're a successful hunter and have eaten many before them.
>everything fears us
Clearly you've not been far enough north. Timber Wolves, Grizzly Bears, Moose, and Caribou don't really fear humans, and will choose aggression over retreat in many cases.
>alt schizo take
No reports isn't the same as no attacks. Anything that can prey on humans regularly must also avoid observation, i.e. Orcas
What makes someone waste so much time arguing with themselves over shit that doesn't matter?
not everyone is a soulless bug person with no beliefs of his own, like you are
Not him, but any Christian clearly doesn't have beliefs of their own at all. Christianity is not an original thought. You're just taking beliefs that others have told you to believe in, without questioning them.
look at the writer here telling me what my character is kek
Christianity is factually not "beliefs of [your] own". Christianity is an existing set of ideas that believers take off the shelf. I guess they're incapable of thinking for themselves.
look at the writer here telling me what my character is kek
imitation is flattery
this is a bigfoot thread. take your cringe up to /x/ or /misc/ or Wauf
could it be he was prepared? no, it couldn't be... i mean he had his camera, it's not like he came prepared... lol bigfoot deniers are mentally ill
this is simply not true nor does it matter
Yes it is true and it does matter.
There has never been any concrete evidence for bigfoot. Finding gorillas over a larger range was easier for less people. Meanwhile americans living in america swarming the woods can not find one single fricking bone, hair, corpse, part of a corpse, scat pile, nothing. No DNA in those casts either... just human DNA. Well I guess bigfoot is human!
but bigfoot is smart so you cant find him
yes we can find an individual murder victim hid by a smart human
but bigfoot is super smart
he can uh time travel yeah
durrrrr
please focus on this issue instead of remembering that social justice was created by the CIA to derail occupy wall street and PETA is a glow op meant to neuter legitimate animal welfare and environmental concerns that affect human health
You've been bombarded with cold hard undeniable evidence of Bigfoot's existence this whole thread and tried to reach for the stars in an attempt to discredit at least ONE thing, which you've failed to do insofar. But you can't reach for the stars because your arms are too short. You keep getting PWNED, you keep coming back, making a complete fool out of yourself. You've had close to a week and you've not convinced ANYBODY.
No, no one has been bombarded with any evidence, except for patterson having the foresight to put some effort into modifying a monkey suit.
You were bombarded. You're shellshocked, you're back to your old debunked points. Bigfoot deniers can't roll with the big boys.
Making false claims about past events is pathetic but it doesn’t get as pathetic as doing so when you can scroll up and see exactly how false those claims are.
Exactly. Bigfoot deniers can't escape the humiliation they received this whole thread. Put on leashes and dogwalked
You're a shitty troll.
Answer the question.
Where and when was the film developed?
Another bad haiku. Get new material
The entire premise of your argument was beyond bimbo tier
"The suit looks really good and there's no way someone from the 1960s could sew foam and cloth together that well!"
You fricking moron. Its not even that good
>THE ARMS ARE LOOONG
The suits arms are longer than its wearers. That's why they can only swing around and bend very slightly, but they're not using their hands or making more dramatic movements like full elbow articulation or raising the arms above parallel.
>IT WALKS WEIRD
You would too if you were in a suit with joints that didn't line up with your body and stiff boot-like ankles that barely moved, while trying extra hard to walk like a monkey.
Your idiotic attempts to convey what was said days ago falls flat when anyone can scroll back up and realize how it really went down. You're spiraling down and making yourself look more pitiful with every post
Whatever you need to tell yourself to believe this guy in a monkey suit is anything but
Where and when was the video developed?
We know it wasn't developed over the weekend.
So that's a lie.
So what else about the story is a lie?
Face it.
He planned out this hoax and got burned by the details.
Just like the hairy breasts.
Just like the shit footprint casts.
He didn't have the knowledge to pull it off.
You suck at haikus
Anyone who is dense enough to believe that Bigfoot is real will also likely believe in this nonsense:
>Religion
>Flat eartherism
>Climate denialism
>Antivaxxerism
All these people should be mocked and shunned. They are clearly too stupid to understand reality.
you have to go back
I'm right. Anyone who believes in those things is an idiot.
>Climate denialism
This planet has been in Flux since it was formed.
There has never been a point in its 4 and a half billion years when the climate was "stable".
correct
but there was never a point when one species burned an entire epochs worth of carbon in a couple of centuries, causing a spike of the sort typical of an epidemic of volcanic eruptions, and then said ITS OKAY BECAUSE NATURE HAS CAUSED SIMILAR EVENTS as if they are not actively fricking themselves over by making vast swaths of the planet unsuitable for settled agriculture and permanent human habitation.
>"global warming has happened before" logic:
>i bite your neck and rip out your jugular
>its okay because this happens in nature
>It's not YOUR nature th-ACK
>but it happens in nature okay? mmmm tasty blood
inb4 it's not caused by humans. Yes, it is, the entire world except one country that coincidentally exports and uses a shitload of coal and oil and owns half of the global auto, airline, and shipping industry agrees.
> Yes, it is, the entire world except one country that coincidentally exports and uses a shitload of coal and oil and owns half of the global auto, airline, and shipping industry agrees.
The entire world except one extremist political part from one country that only has two extremist political parties and uses....*
americans be like
>i can't agree global warming is real because then i agree that children who can not consent to sex can consent to permanently arresting the normal course of sexual development based on propaganda
>well i cant agree that we shoudn't do that to kids because then i'm agreeing that global warming isn't real
Okay, but the current climate shift is caused by greenhouse gas emissions, from human activity.
Correct.
>this is a bigfoot thread
I didn't start the conversation about the Catholic church, I just replied to it. Cope and seethe.
>Cope and seethe
lol keep reading from that script dog. maybe you'll say dial 8 and cringe next time huh
obviously a fat guy in a suit
doesn't even have monke proportions
Bigfoot is an interdimensional alien who can phase in and out of this dimension
Also they built the pyramids
I find it fake because it has weird boobs, speculative trait of Bigfoot of which Patterson was obsessed about even before the footage was recorded IIRC
bro i would suck on those mammaries, not deny them outright
A horse leaned over a fence and spoke directly to me when I was out hiking once. After something like that happens who knows what's really out there?
What did the horse say?
>"where and when was the video developed?"
Then it asked for an apple and to scratch its ear
damn, skeptichuds getting absolutely slaughtered in this thread.
Post link, can't find it.
We know he rented the camera weeks before.
He was actually sued by the owner because he didn't return it on time.
We know where he rented the horses from.
Patterson even stated he left the mountains around 4:40 pm on Friday.
Then went home.
Then called his brother inlaw.
Then told him the story and gave him the film and told him to go get it developed.
>the only processing facility (1) within 500 miles closed at 5pm and was not open on the weekend.
Brother inlaw returned the film over the weekend.
Patterson called news outlets and scheduled a showing of the film on monday.
The actual evidence.
The film.
The only thing that matters.
An actual priceless object in his eyes.
Where was it developed?
>I don't remember
Is literally the official response.
That's all we know.
>I don't remember.
I know where I bought gas 3 months ago....
get to the point i'm not reading all that
I'll add that "my brother inlaw had it developed" was only his answer after he was pressed for answers much, much later when it was discovered that no photo labs were open over the weekend he claimed it was developed.
The more you dig into the story, the more you realize it's bullshit.
quit replying to yourself
I wasn't replying, I was adding for clarification.
moron.
Sure is samegay in here
Bigfoot "sightings" didn't stop when every hiker got a cellphone camera in their pocket.
But now they think they see a Bigfoot, record a video, then afterwards look at the video and go "oh, it was just a bear" and the encounter is never reported because they clarified to themselves that it was just...a bear
Demons and faeries (etc) are just misinterpreted aliens
No different from how past humans would view future humans
I want to put the "demons are aliens" guy in the same room as the "aliens are demons" guy.
Both work. Aliens are demons in the sense that they have magician/deceiver rights due to their more advanced and different natures. They just can’t help it.
No, the "aliens are demons" people claims all alien encounters are not advanced species from other planets, they are biblical demons under disguised.
Those people are nutty. That implies the human imagination precedes intelligence in the universe, which is plainly moronic.
Aliens acting the part of gods or demons works because they may as well be to the sufficiently primitive / less exposed.
Dude, I’m not gonna argue with you in their place. I want you and them to argue because you both are equally sure about your crazy ideas.
These guys are smoking weed, look at theirs eyes
Also Aliens are demons
.>ifunny
that's creepy as hell
Humans are stuck in one dimension (time)
Aliens already know how our stories will play out, from beginning to end, in many-many different hypothetical hairs of time.
Physics would also break our minds by that point.
Real, but meant to be perceived as fake.
It’s pretty funny. Seeing isn’t believing for humans.
Look at the perfectly flat and smooth rubber soles on the bottom of the costume. They're clearly visible in several frames.
Cryptards never seem to notice this glaringly obvious feature even when they're zooming in on every other pixel in the video.
Oh and also look at these textured soles from a much better costume made decades earlier. "Costume technology" sure had regressed a long ways right?
Oh, but I disahree, it was so old there's no way I can see those dummies could have made a suit that nice! They didn't even have ipads and gay marriage yet so I dont understand how stupid you would have to believe they could make a good monkey costume.
tell me how could you make a good monkey suit without photoshop and AI? I checkmated you, nonbelievers. Looks like my logic and reason won. That looks like a monkey to me and there is no other way I can see the evidence supporting bigfoot being real.
I have totally dominated this argument and I have won. I win.
*bigfoot not being real
Tee-hee looks like I accidentally told the truth oopsie
why do you people go out of your way to post in the most cringeworthy and try hard way possible? it's so unattractive
>you can see faces in the trees!
>nooooo you can see the soles!
Anti-Bigfoot troons are the same as featherhomosexuals aren’t they.
Speak sense man (failed).
Easily explained by the blur of the motion of the feet.
>Best quality Bigfoot footage comes from a guy who was already filming a movie about Bigfoot and was drawing sketches of Bigfoot with breasts
WOW
WHAT
A
COINCIDENCE
yes. that's why they're called coincidences. they're unlikely
>too stupid to get sarcasm
its an ape suit
the limb proportions were ever so slightly botched, just enough so that the suit could still be walked in
the wearer of the suit wore some sort of supporting structure underneath it, or had it built into the suit, to hide his real body shape
https://web2.ph.utexas.edu/~coker2/slides/bigfoot/suits.shtml
According to Morris, who was interviewed in 2003, in the summer of 1967 he got a call from Roger Patterson, who said he wanted to purchase a gorilla suit for a “rodeo act.” He bought the $435 suit, and later called to ask how to hide the zippers, extend the arms, and bulk up the shoulders. In October of 1967, Morris had the pleasure of seeing Patterson's footage of his costume on TV.
it wasn't sarcasm. you just misused a word
>mfw thread full of reddit spacing spooks desperately trying to "debunk" bigfoot
If I didn't believe before I would now. If you'd already won the propaganda would be unnecessary.
It's hilarious how dedicated and upset they are about this thing they claim not to care about
Bigfoot is just a CIA psyop and they're just trying to distract you from Littlefoot. In fact there exist 14 movies by enthusiasts that document the habitat of said creatures in a valley that exists outside of time. Sometimes rifts open up between their timeless reality and our current era and they can be spotted in the woods of the pacific northwest. Sometimes however these rifts also open in different places such as the Highlands, allowing for creatures to slip through.
I miss this longneck like you wouldn't believe
Once again Bigfoot supporters DOMINATE a thread
you can see where the shoulder blades stick out
You can see how the traps fit on top the shoulder blades, you can see the lower back curve.
Every time I look at this film it blows my mind morons are convinced it's a suit while looking at what's clearly a living animal. It doesn't get any more moronic than this.
But have you looked at the perfectly flat and smooth rubber soles on the bottoms of its feet?
pretty sure someone addressed that already
Was it by saying "but the video is too low res so you cant tell" or what
lol!
summ like that. it makes sense
wow just like the video is to low res to say if you… can see muscles!?
Kek
what are u talking about?
They made casts of all the footprints.
Here's Patterson himself with the casts from the fake bigfoot encounter.
lemme try his logic.
when were the casts made? on a different time as when the video was shot? that means they're FAKE!!lol
>He was a professional bigfoot hunter so they had a couple hundred pounds of plaster back at camp just incase they came across footprints of bigfoot.
Not even kidding.
That's how they explained why he had everything ready to make the casts an hour after they saw bigfoot...
Those are the fakest looking feet on earth and likely produced way after the fact to reinforce the hoax
Here are real casts of real early hominid, but nonhuman footprints. A modern hoaxtser would probably base his fake casts on these but P&G didn't have google, lol.
3.7 million years old and the prints are more detailed and realistically shaped than any bigfoot cast ever lol
are you comparing prints from millions of years ago and prints that happened recently
3.7 million year old prints are more detailed and overall realistic than "fresh" bigfoot prints come the frick on
meanwhile bigfoot has ever-changing foot anatomy and the prints are always comically distorted
That's just a frame under the costume. Look at how it turns around, the torso is practically a perfect cylinder.
>https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/brief-communications/Murphy_PGFilmInsights.pdf
>This composite shows three added images of the bigfoot superimposed and registered on the full frame 353 resulting in four bigfoot images in the same plane. The established average walking height of 87.5 inches
where the hell did they find this man to wear this costume?
>87.5 inches
That's around 7 feet and 2 inches and this person was just... around?
How are people still talking about this? It is 100% fake.
what about sierra camp tapes?
are they real?
no its friends making silly noises in the woods
go to a different hoax and now bigfoot just screeches instead of sounding like teenagers doing monkey man impressions
Bigfoot deniers would see a 9 foot tall hominid running at them with bared teeth and bloodshot eyes and be calm because "bigfoot doesn't exist"
Think about that
Bigfoot believers will see a bear walking upright 300ft away barely visible in between some trees and freak out because "that's bigfoot"
Think about that
Do you think mistaking reality is in any way, shape or form just as bad as ignoring reality?
And? Astronomers saw dust clouds on Mars and thought they were trees changing color with the seasons.
>muscles moving under skin-tight fur
>ass jiggle
>breasts
No, just a guy in a Halloween costume, don't ask stupid questions
I don't see any ass jiggle or muscle moving.
Only the hairy breasts are visible.
Reminder the person who made the costume for patterson and gimlin admitted to it
k3k
I know, bro. And while we're at it... I'm the Antichrist. I know, it's shocking, but I'm admitting to it...
I don't have to imagine anything. Look at 2001 and Planet of the Apes. Both of them had inferior "costumes"
>Dude look at this move in 2001 that was spitballed together with CGI from outsourced pajeets in India!!!
Answer the real questions.
Where was the film developed?
You can tell me that yourself can't you sunshine?
>Nobody "knows"
The film had to be developed beforehand.
Which means the time of the encounter is fraudulent.
Which means the encounter is a lie.
That's just fact at this point.
Would you like to continue this discussion?
Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions. You're having a discussion with yourself, why are you asking ME if I want you to continue it?
So you're a troll that knows it's fake.
Got it.
Some people think it's real, I'm glad you're not that moronic and are just bored.
There you go making conclusions again like a pathetic child. Guess my ethnicity and how many times I've had sex with your mother, why don't you
>muh dik in yer mum
Address all the discrepancies
The only discrepancy is between reality and your opinion of yourself. I've dominated this entire exchange
Your shitty opinions mean nothing.
I've stated facts upon facts and you have no explanation for a single one.
The "gret flood" is in many cultures, does that mean Noah and his arc are real?
Kraken are in many cultures, does that mean cthulu is real?
>Kraken are in many cultures, does that mean cthulu is real
giant squids literally turned out to be real. you're bad at arguing
>Noah and his arc are real
yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods
There are plenty of mundane explanations for why many cultures all have great deluge stories - and the simplest is "Humans experienced post-Ice Age flooding, you moron". Ice age glaciers dammed rivers, creating massive lakes, and when those glaciers melted then half of continents were flooded. And this is not up for debate, they did happen, the question is whether humans experienced them and to what extent. It's perfectly reasonable to speculate that they did, and the end result was a regional flood was interpreted or exaggerated as a "global flood" with only a few survivors.
>interpreted or exaggerated
That's my point.
>some farmer finds sea shells ontop of a mountain 5,000 years ago
>"this mountain must have been underwater"
It's the same with bigfoot.
>get a glimpse of a bear walking on 2 legs
>"it must be a hairy man because bears don't walk on 2 legs"
>And this is not up for debate, they did happen, the question is whether humans experienced them and to what extent.
I'd say a more pertinent question would be: do the myths derive from actual experience of an event tens of thousands of years ago, or are they just more recent inventions which happen to resemble each other? We can just about reconstruct some likely elements of Proto-Indo-European myth, which is only about 7,500 years old, and that's with the help of literature from thousands of years ago. So it seems like myth-elements might survive about 5-6,000 years of oral tradition at best. Suggesting flood myths are based on events tens of thousands of years ago seems to be stretching it, when the basic premise seems pretty straightforward to just imagine.
>Suggesting flood myths are based on events tens of thousands of years ago seems to be stretching it
…No? Humans play telephone.
Humans are also obsessed with ideas and archetypes — it’s why you have dual analogies like a Sky Father and an Earth Mother everywhere.
>does that mean Noah and his arc are real?
why not?
>The "gret flood" is in many cultures, does that mean Noah and his arc are real?
We already know that floods have happened in the deep past, and from the perspective of primitives that was their whole world. Stories will be told. Approximations.
holy shit Anon that was cold as frick
That anon is moronic and living in a fantasy world where he ignores everything that's posted.
I've countered every point he attempted to make.
He refused to respond to any facts of the encounter that didn't fit his narrative.
He's a loser that was btfo but thinks he won because he didn't answer.
you got owned upwards of 6 times in this thread
Why did they lie about when the video was made?
Answer that single question.
bro why you asking me? why did who lie to whom?
See
This isn't my take on it.
This is just historical fact.
After nearly 6 decades nobody knows where or when this magical film was developed.
Why lie about that?
>because it was a hoax they setup and never thought about the details.
all i see is a tower of disjointed questions and you seem to have derived a schizophrenic conclusion out of them without anyone else's input
Why did they lie about when it was filmed?
why does the pope shit in his hat?
Shhhh.
You're gonna kill the vibe dude.
You might as well bring up the construction worker that crushed the 55 gallon drum with the forklift and showed it to the rookie as a joke and said it was "the bigfoot"
>this is actually what started Patterson on his quest and is a verified hoax
Most of you forget (or don't know) that they were out there filming a documentary about bigfoot.
Yes, these guys wanted to film bigfoot and found it the first day a few miles from the highway parking.
>It was a coincidence. They were lucky
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT REAL. That looks way too good to be a costume given the time, place and means available
>People in the 1960s could not possible make an ape costume
Oh sorry I didn't know you needed advanced semiconductor tech to put foam, cloth, and fake fur together in the shape of an ape.
And someone tell those ancient greek sculptors that their work looks too good given the time, place, and means available
They bought the costume from a professional costumer maker. And didn't use the head. They used modified wigs to make it look more like a hairy man's head on a monkeys body.
Impossible. It was a world class costume. Greek sculptors sculpting sculptures (see a pattern here? not "costumes") have jack shit to do with two hicks somehow finding a world-class costume designer
>world class
Literally looks like a dude in a garbage bag with cat hair stuck to it.
How much do you know about world class costume design, pray tell? Cosplay, at least? Halloween decorations?? Anatomy, even?
https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/essays/Keith_rev.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20160824105039/http://www2.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/Munns-%20Meldrum%20Final%20draft.pdf
Apparently more than you.
Ohhh *ZING*! Am I right, sis?
>In fact, the film subject reveals a great contrast to both Andre and Chewbacca insofar as the hair on its neck and shoulders is identical to the hair everywhere else, which lies flat against the body. The head/shoulder connection is perfectly visible and there is no excessive hair at all to obscure the smooth shoulders and back. This is not standard procedure, thick reams of heavy hair being the tool of choice to conceal pesky wrinkles and bubbles in the neckline. In Planet of the Apes for example, every ape involved, females included, have long 3-4-inch beards (Fig. 4). And if that was not enough, high collars for good measure. The result is a neckline 100% obscured.
>If the [Patterson-Gimlin] film was indeed faked, one must ask why the pioneering technique for disguising seams without lengthened hair has not filtered throughout the Hollywood industry in the ensuing 40 years.
>The [Patterson-Gimlin] film creates another pair of challenges here. First, not only are the upper limbs disproportionately long by human standards, the length is not achieved by merely elongating the forearm. In other words, the upper arm is elongated as well -- her elbow is in the proper position. Second, her wrist and hands are also seen to be moving. No explanation for this has ever been offered by the debunkers.
this is interesting
It's 100% bullshit.
Stand up and look at where your hand lines up on your leg.
Now look at the video.
There is no difference.
my hands don't go down to my knees
you're exaggerating massively
>my hands don't go down to my knees
Neither does the Patterson video.
Look at it again.
Hand is right under its ass.
its arms are long as shit
Since I just proved you wrong what other bullshit talking points are you going to move onto next?
>arms are clearly long
>"no they aren't, why are you still making claims I've dismissed by just telling you not to use your eyes?"
Suits do not have to match the wearers proportions unless they require their full range of motion. Period. Are they bending their arms all the way? Using their hands? Nope.
Such a fit would never hold up on the bit screen but this is pretty low resolution film.
>still on the "poorly fitted suit" argument
It's really amazing how poorly the suit fits and how lazy the hoaxers must have been, yet all their laziness just makes the video look less like a person in a suit. Just fascinating.
>It's really amazing how poorly the suit fits and how lazy the hoaxers must have been, yet all their laziness just makes the video look less like a person in a suit. Just fascinating.
Where did I say they were lazy? Obviously they put some thought into this if they wanted the limb proportions of the suit to be more inhuman and wore padding under it. They put so much effort into this hoax they had a few slip ups, but obviously those weren't enough to convince you it was bullshit.
You argue like a woman. Seriously.
Shut up, lady. If you respond to me with more vagspeak don't expect a dignified response.
you know i just realized this recurring pgf film autist is definitely a woman or at least such a trooned out troony that they have the mind of one
>its not possible for a suit to be well constructed because... its old! teehee
>irrational responses galore
>quotes things nobody said and then sticks with that as an argument
>selective memory
>"im right that settles it" when out of ammo
>lacks basic spatial reasoning skills and creative problem solving
Why are you always accusing people of being a woman or troony? I notice you in the dinosaur debate threads, and there I'm on your side, but I'm starting to realize you're just projecting your own insecurities onto people. It's pretty sad.
Not an argument schitzo.
This isn't a debate anymore. I'm saying you're acting like a lolcow. Tone it down.
It's already been pointed out why padding is unfeasible. You're just a gay projecting his incompetence on others
>padding cant be worm because…. Thats silly!
>look this blurry image looks real if you stare really hard
Shut up and go make me a sandwich
You're so mad lmao
Sandwich, woman.
Dude.
Are you an idiot or a troll?
The "bigfoot"s elbows and wrists literally line up the same place as any normal human.
What do you see?
Tell us where you think it's wrists and elbows line up with the torso and legs.
Look at the leg, gay. There's no suit on this.
Oh sorry. It thought you were arguing against it.
I just came in.
>I just came in.
dude, you should pull out
You are seriously a fricking idiot with zero understanding of anatomy.
seems like you're blind to arm length anon. how many pictures of athletic high melanin men do you have readily saved on your computer? you know we're talking about a different breed of monkeys
That was a random "sports ball player" picture I searched for this thread.
And you might actually be moronic if you think the Patterson costume has unusually long arms- you should get teated.
One from your folder no doubt. And you offered to let me suck your breasts too, that's classy
This moron argues like a 13 year old and it's so conspicuous he thinks we can't tell he's samegayging. Go back.
Get back on your medication
Hahahahahahaha
Are you trying to imply his proportions magically changed from the previous pic?!
Wrist is still in line with bottom of his ass.
He's lifting his right leg.
And you are a fricking idiot.
i am telling you his arms are long as hell
I don't understand how supposed experts can make claims on the quality of the suit from such poor quality footage.
For all we know, the suit is full of seams we simply can't see at such a distance and in such grainy footage.
This is 100% marble from the 15th century.
It's a single piece of stone.
No lighting tricks.
No computers.
1 dude and a chisel and a slab of rock.
That's astonishingly beautiful. What does that have to do with Sasquatch costume design?
That was done with a hammer and chisel out of a piece of rock 500 years ago.
Imagine what he would have done with a piece of shag carpet and a sewing machine.....500 years ago.
Now imagine what that person could do when they are obsessed and have 1968 available to them......
>World class
Not even close. I understand you feel the need to REPETITIVELY assert this nonsensical non-argument to "keep believing, maaaan" but it is what it is. They purchased a better than average ape costume from someone who made them professionally, and tossed the head.
You are seeing what you want to see based on the godawful resolution of 16mm film. I could send 4000 pro hunters out in the woods with Sony A7RV cameras and 70-300mm zoom lenses to get some bigfoot footage with so many megapixels you can see individual hairs on a person 50 feet away and AI enabled autofocus. Not one would come back with authentic bigfoot footage.
Endangered ass gorillas are still sighted by people looking for them, and even those who aren't, like the local africans. Why has no one seen bigfoot? Why can't someone shoot him? Where are the dead bigfoots? Bones take years to vanish in the woods. We'd surely find a skull. Nope. Nothing.
Adorable how your pea sized brain switched from the costume to remains. How about to stick to the subject and quit speaking thru farts? I already posted evidence that should foster reasonable doubt in anybody.
You didn't post any evidence because there isn't any
You posted the assertions of a bigfoot believer.
The whole of the united states is about half the size of the range of gorillas. We can find gorillas, not just gorillas, but specific, individual groillas in this range. Why can no one find bigfoot in one corner of the US?
You're seeing those costumes on 35mm film, not 16mm. And by god man they look the fricking same.
And tell me how your argument makes rational sense? Hollywood of the day had a lot of "good enough" special effects because the budget got tight with all the big name actors. An independent artist doing comissioned work could do better, and TELL ME HOW
HOW THE FRICK
BEING FROM 1960 PREVENTS A PERSON FROM ARRANGING FOAM, CLOTH, AND FAKE FUR IN THE SHAPE OF A GORILLA
WHEN THIS ACTIVITY ONLY REQUIRES SCISSORS, A NEEDLE, ZIPPERS, AND SOME THREAD
I posted professionally collected evidence from reliable sources. Which is more than I can say for you.
>And by god man they look the fricking same.
No they do not. And if they looked the fricking same, that destroys your earlier point about how easy it would be to make them. One came from Hollywood with a greater budget and more seasoned, critically acclaimed (2001 won an Oscar for SFX; Planet of the Apes was nominated for the same thing) professionals. The other, you're assuming, comes from a pair of hicks hiring an unknown world-class costume designer with less budget.
I don't give a rat's ass if you believe it or you visualize me wearing tinfoil on my head. It's simply worrisome you can't admit how fishy this all looks.
>specific gorillas
I can go to Africa and track down a Silverback named Jeffery that was last sighted in 1982...
But the north American bigfoot.....
Is more intelligent, perceptive and elusive
>super smart bigfoot has foiled modern infared surveillance tech
Next, he will hop dimensions
you're assuming infrared tech is omnipresent, that mountains and thick trees don't exist and that bigfoot doesn't hide anywhere
Looks too good now. Show me one ape costume that looks this good.
George of the Jungle?
Congo?
2001?
Any other big budget ape suit movies? Not to mention that recreation of the Patterson footage where they tried to make the most convincing hoax they could but it looked nothing like the real thing.
It’s real. Idk why trannies and reddit get so angry at bigfoot existing. Because that goes against what their phone (bible) says on their precious Wikipedia and Google (psalms).
>this video that looks fake is different than this other video that looks fake.
As for your pic, see
>Idk why trannies and reddit get so angry at bigfoot existing
i don't know either. it's like it's their job to get offended. they can't even admit that if they think it's a costume, it would be a damned good one. there's literally nothing wrong with saying "it's a good costume but i'm not sold on bigfoot" but it's as if their personal realities would crumble if they concede this one thing
>notice the arms!
Has it occurred to you that a suits arms can be longer than its wearers? This does not allow the full range of elbow motion, but notice, they don't use it.
>It would be a good one
It looks like it might have been a few hundred bucks. Where is the evidence that is not a blurry 16mm film frame where you can see whatever you look for? Including faces in the leaves?
Where are the corpses? Where is the IR footage? Where are the hunted bigfoots? Why can we find gorillas in africa that is much larger but as soon as everyone got a 50mp camera in their pocket, no deluge of bigfoot evidence and all the stories go silent?
are you interviewing me right now or are you going to drop an actual point after the thousandth pointless question? you've been given proof that it's better than anything hollywood had at the time and definitely above anything patterson and gimlin had access to.
>they just broke the guys arm beneath the elbow so it could bend that way chud!
…
>Where are the corpses? Where is the IR footage? Where are the hunted bigfoots? Why can we find gorillas in africa that is much larger but as soon as everyone got a 50mp camera in their pocket, no deluge of bigfoot evidence and all the stories go silent?
There are theories about this, and they mostly involve either extraterrestrial or interdimensional explanations. Don't worry, I'm not saying they're likely, I'm just saying that "Bigfoot is a North American Great Ape" is just one theory among several.
And you could say similar things about aliens as well. If aliens exist, we should see more evidence of them besides "weird lights in the sky sometimes". Where are the small fragments of UFO crashes? Why do aliens play grabass with us and not just contact us normally (like there's the interstellar zoo hypothesis, but there's also reports of aliens contacting people directly with vague absurd prophecies and then letting them go, what's up with that?)? Why don't we see megastructures or evidence of FTL in astronomy? There's a lot of stuff that would imply extraterrestrial life that just isn't there, and yet the idea for UFO's being "real" on some level becomes more and more mainstream. It is interesting, and you shouldn't just dismiss it. There are lots of explanations. This is how science works. Sometimes it can feel silly, but we should always be open to weird shit maybe being true. After all, all those claims about people finding "dragon bones" turned out to be true. We just call them dinosaurs now.
UFO literally means "some flying shit I don't know what it is" Maybe because the one viewing lack the knowledge needed to identify it, maybe because it is too far away or the image is too shitty, or maybe because it isn't even a flying object, people just assumed it was. Cases of conspiracy theories involving alien spaceships and stuff I think a good chunk come from the government using it to distract people from shit they really are doing. This includes the recent one "Alien mothership is watching us with tiny probes" we had recently.
About people claiming being in contact with aliens, people make the most wild claims all the time. One interesting phenomenon is sleep paralysis. Sometimes when you are waking up or falling asleep you can enter a state where your lose voluntary control of your body and is unable to move or talk but are conscious about your surrounding. In this state it is common to feel a presence in the room, have auditory hallucinations (humming sounds, zap sounds, whispers, etc), visual hallucinations (some shadowy figure, a ghost, a demon, an alien, a succubus/incubus, a monster), and even feel things like a pressure in the chest, being pushed down, floating, pressure in genitals/anus and strong emotions like anxiety, fear, etc. These things are extremely realistic, I have experience it myself when I was a kid, my luck is that my visual hallucination was a combination of two toys I had moving on its own so I was sure it wasn't real after the event ended. Even if someone tried to come up with a supernatural explanation like ghosts controlling the toys they couldn't be combined in the way I saw without destroying them in the first place but I was terrified during the even and even if I tried to scream with all my might I had no voice. Anyway this kind of experience is extremely similar to many cases of people claiming to have been visited by aliens (and also by demons, angels, ghosts, and a bunch of other supernatural creatures). cont
When you consider how rare it is for life to form and blossom into something self replicating and capable of genetic modification, even when conditions are ideal, and how few are far between planets are that are capable of supporting life, and how astronomically long it took for life on earth to actually become intelligent enough to contact other nearby planets, I honestly think it’s incredibly unlikely that we’ll ever find anything beyond microbial life. I automatically assume all UFO and alien conspiracy shit is fake
I automatically assume aliens are here, since it is incredibly arrogant to just up and assume that aliens have only noticed us now—not even humans specifically.
I’m sorry. It’s just logic. If we can leave, even if only hypothetically, then that means something can come to us.
It also means that, if they are here, they are not just advanced, they are ADVANCED… Likely went through numerous thresholds and barriers we can’t even guess at; and look at how fast things are progressing for us.
It makes -zero- sense that -nothing- would be aware of us. And if they didn’t want to be seen, they wouldn’t be seen.
But that’s not the biggest red flag— it’s all those small town communities that call 911 at the same damn time when something truly bizarre is going down— or are we just going to assume that 50-100+ elderly people were all in on it?
>we just going to assume that 50-100+ elderly people were all in on it?
Unintentionally, yeah, it's possible.
I'm more willing to believe it's mass hysteria from unexplained weather phenomenon. We still don't understand how things like ball lightning and skyquakes work, there's still a lot of mysteries about our planet to work out before we start conclusively blaming ayy lmaos.
>there's still a lot of mysteries about our planet to work out before we start conclusively blaming ayy lmaos.
The problem is that some things react too intelligently, artificially, to believably be anything nature/natural.
There is a limit.
I assume if aliens were here we either wouldn't be here (aliens would take over the planet before humans appeared) or would be living in/around their cities build here the same way Europeans colonized a bunch of areas or how ants live in our homes.
Life on earth has existed for billions of years and we’ve only been a space fairing civilization for under 100
Even if two intelligent civilizations ever exist within close enough proximity to eachother to feasibly reach, the chances of them both being space fairing or intelligent at overlapping timeframes is astronomically low
Don’t get your hopes up that we will ever find civilization anywhere else in space
The problem is, some intelligences out there probably perceive time non-linearly. Probably looking at us from beginning to end. By that point contact of any kind is pointless, redundant.
Another fact that supports my hypothesis that all this alien contacts is just a social phenomenon is that how people describe the aliens follow popular culture. The Grey alien that is common in USA was popularized after Barney and Betty Hill abduction case. We used to have a much higher variety of aliens, hairy aliens, buff aliens, wearing metallic clothes full of colorful buttons. Not only that but the culture the person belong to also affects how the alien encounters are described. There is also ufologists turning everything into aliens. For example the Canvey Island Monster. I can't find a source explaining the origin of the image nowadays but I remember it being made by ufologists when I read about it a long time ago.
But the locals recognized the fish as an angler fish and this is the photo of said monster.
>The Grey alien that is common in USA was popularized after Barney and Betty Hill abduction case
The original grey alien was a crash test dummy from the roswell crash that was recording effects of near supersonic flight on a potential pilot.
The craft crashed because it was remote controlled and the early system did not have a high enough refresh rate for the ground pilot to compensate at those speeds.
The engineer who designed the dummy didn't want a farmer to risk his life attempting to "rescue" it from a crash so he made the proportions close enough to human to record viable data but obscure enough to not be mistaken as an actual person.
It was originally painted bright orange but was charred from the fire after the crash. Which is a shame because neon colored aliens in sci-fi would have been cooler.
This generalized alien design became the standard in the global consciousness
The point of that bit of history is that a single example of what an "alien" looks like became the standard worldwide.
It's now "accepted" that the Grey's are the only true aliens and previous descriptions like
Canvey Island Monster are no longer used.
It's the same with bigfoot/yeti.
People are aware of the stories and descriptions so when they encounter something they don't understand their brain lies and tells them it's bigfoot.
Another one
>"Hairy Dwarves" are a species of short, humanoid mammalian cryptids reported to be of extraterrestrial origin. Nowadays, they're regarded as a very rare UFO-case category that has been largely dismissed with the arrival of the more familiar "Grey" aliens. Cases like these actually follow a trend of older UFO encounters taking fanciful takes on alien life, with the "Hairy Dwarves" being an example of the more wild designs people reported alien visitors as having.
Not even that worldwide, more specifically USA.
>Greys are often involved in alien abduction claims. Among reports of alien encounters, Greys make up about 50% in Australia, 73% in the United States, 48% in continental Europe, and around 12% in the United Kingdom.
in UK the Nordics are more common. You can thank your media for making alien encounters being creepy bald manlets probing your butts instead of tall blondes.
My mother saw a UFO when she was younger. Triangle of lights high up in the sky, rotating and changing direction as it moved across the sky. No doubt some man-made thing, but I think it's interesting that she saw it in Ireland, since usually you only hear about UFOs in the US.
I agree with your sleep-paralysis theory, plus probably a lot of MK Ultra hallucinations and kidnappings that the CIA conducted.
I know that the figure on the left is real because I want to have sex with it. My peepee does not make mistakes
how does it taste?
Its a man in a gorilla suit
One of the biggest mistakes they made with the costume is that they covered the breasts with hair (yes the bigfoot is supposedly female).
Primates do not have hair on their breasts.
This was probably done because Gimlin was tall enough to pretend to be a female bigfoot but not tall enough to be a believable male.
Unfortunately neither of them had a zoology degree or they could have easily avoided this mistake.
The footage is fake as frick, but surely it's possible for one primate to be different to all the others in terms of hair placement? Humans certainly are.
Interestingly, hairy (and pendulous) breasts are a very common feature of wildman stories from around the world. There are native American, Tibetan, Indonesian, Siberian, South-American, and Nepalese tales which all feature them.
Apart from the attributes which define them (lack of technology, hairiness) wildmen have several which turn up again and again is wildly different cultures:
Reversed or rotated feet
Females have long, sagging breasts covered in hair
Inhuman size (either small or large) and strength (always super-human)
Incapable of human speech
Abduction of humans (usually children or teenage girls)
Associated with storms and bad weather
As far as I can tell, the only cultures which don't really have stories of hairy humanoids with at least some of these features are from Africa, Australia, and the Middle East. That kind of suggests there could be an extremely old ur-myth orginating somewhere in central Asia about 50-60,000 y.a. (which is about the right time and place for contact with Neanderthals and Denisovans).
>As far as I can tell, the only cultures which don't really have stories of hairy humanoids with at least some of these features are from Africa, Australia, and the Middle East.
The myths are probably from people getting spooked by bears standing upright.
atlas bears moron
Very plausible. Bear-cults were certainly a thing in the Palaeolithic and many wildmen stories have a lot of bear-like elements (Nepalese ones, for instance, are often explicitly described as a type of bear or bear-man). The geography fits well too; basically all the regions where the myths are common have bears, or had bears recently, or were populated by people who moved from a region with bears.
Doesn't explain stuff like the reversed feet and pendulous hairy breasts though. As tempting as it is to pin those on some extinct species, having done a lot of reading on the subject I'm inclined towards explaining it as simply something made-up which happened to persist a weirdly long time. There's no real reason to think that stories based on reality are more compelling or long-lived than purely invented ones.
I would have assumed that a lot of modern 'sightings' of wildmen are bears too, but the evidence doesn't seem consistent with that. I read a book by a guy who did genetic tests on a shit-ton of 'bigfoot hair' submitted by people who were adamant they saw bigfoot. None of them were bears (or primates, or totally unknown creatures); most of the ones which were actually hair came from cows. So I think that maybe total fricking hallucination might be a better explanation (assuming that hoaxers wouldn't be daft enough to send samples they knew would get proven fake).
What about Yowies ?
my ex wife has hairy breasts m8…….
the burden of proof is on you, buddy
better back up your claim and post em
Ya I call bullshit.
Pics or didn't happen.
Patterson bigfoot film- "October 20th, 1967"
Very real, this was filmed before planet of the apes yet somehow some amateur made a better costume?
Look at the thigh, it doesn't move like a costume over a person would, it flexes and moves like muscle.
Planet of the apes- released February 8th 1968
2001 a space odyssey- released April 2nd 1968
Costumes for both films existed before the bigfoot hoax.
Here's the costume from the opening sequence of 2001- a space odyssey.
Star Trek
February 2, 1968
Episode no: Season 2; Episode 19
Character name: Mugato
>it flexes and moves like muscle.
How the frick can you tell? The thigh of the thing is made up of about 5 pixels.
So this guy has never seen a Bigfoot.
He takes people on hunts for Bigfoot.
He rented an expensive camera to make a film about Bigfoot (complete with a costume, that's never been seen).
While scouting filming locations He finally sees a Bigfoot, and "just happens" to have this expensive, rented camera in his saddle bag.
Now the film from this encounter should be the most valuable thing he will ever possess.
So he gives it to his brother in law (on a Friday night) and tells him to get it developed.
Monday afternoon he shows the movie.
There was no film processor open on the weekend to develop that film within 500 miles.
When asked where it was developed, the brother in law replied with "I don't remember".
Ya, totally legit guys....
I also forgot.
He wrote a book about bigfoot (before the encounter).
You could hire him to give a lecture on bigfoot (before the encounter).
He was facing bankruptcy (before the encounter).
I also find it odd now that every hiker has a 12 billion pixel camera phone in their pocket the Bigfoot sightings have stopped...
Some other tidbits.
They returned to make impressions of the footprints and look around the encounter site multiple times but when others asked to be taken to the location they "couldn't find it". The location was rediscovered a few years ago.
Although they made casts of the prints they never measured the trees the "bigfoot" walked past to verify its height- even though this was a group of "professional" bigfoot hunters.
The original film disappeared, only copies remain.
You forgot the most important tidbit that nobody ever brings up.
Earlier that same year the footage was caught, Patterson was trying to make a docudrama about Ape Valley and got as far as shooting a few scenes, meaning he almost certainly had a Bigfoot costume for the film.
none of this disproves anything
nor this
nor this
you'd be shitty private investigators
Hahahahahhajahajaha
>the facts surrounding the incident don't matter!!!!
>just look at the guy in the gorilla suit!!!!
>it almost looks real!!!!
What a fricking douche.
simmer down
lol samegay
It is a man in an ill fitting poorly articulated ape suit and he was never seen again after patterson and gimlin left town
real
His videos convinced me that Bigfoot most likely exists. Great stuff
Based Bob Gymlan enjoyer
never trust anyone with a cartoon avatar
It's a fairly accurate depiction, although the artist definitely makes him out to be more buff than he is
Oops, meant for
In the drawing he looks normal
In real life he looks inbred
we're all a little inbred
Completely real
The forest in the background is real, the gorilla costume is real, the man in the costume is real, the photograph is real, the pretending-to-be-bigfoot prank is real.
For FIFTY-SIX YEARS no one has been able to produce a single scrap of evidence of a great ape living or dead in the pacific northwest despite absolute dick-shitting frickloads of people trying.
>No skulls, no bones, no fur, no photos or video footage despite the ubiquity of high definition cameras over the past few decades, not even a broken tooth
You tell me.
Why do you think national parks don't keep a list of missing people?
We have drones with infrared cameras that can find a fricking squirrel in a sequoia but nothing on Bigfoot except this one film.
Real.
Only people who judge at first glance think otherwise.
If you look into it, you realize it's impossible for anyone to replicate the walk.
There's a reason why to this day it's regarded the best footage.
It alternates between crouching and having straight legs while it walks. It's head level never changes. This is literally impossible for a human, but other apes can only walk with bent legs.
What a moron.
What exactly did you disprove?
It's a stabilized version so you can focus on the "bigfoot"s movement instead of shaky camera work.
Within the first few frames you can see the right leg is fully extended.
What does that disprove?
Try reading my original comment.
What does your original comment prove, anon? That it's mathematically impossible for a man to walk while hunched over a little bit?
>I can't read
>It alternates between walking with straight legs and bent
no way....
And you thought it was the lizard people ruling the world....
My eyes are opened.
>It's disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful, how many people are putting up trail cameras nowadays. No respect for privacy, these people.
i don't get it. they don't walk the same
because trump isn't wearing a mis-fit suit where the suits knees and hips don't line up with his body and the ankles are poorly articulated, bordering on locked.
he also isn't wearing any layers of padding under that suit, further making motion awkward.
>they're the same because they're not the same
the intellectuals of anti bigfootism, everybody
inb4 Wauf goes offline for "maintenance"
https://web2.ph.utexas.edu/~coker2/slides/bigfoot/suits.shtml
You didn't disprove the walk I just described.
You made arguments for other stuff, but not that one.
>yyyyou didnt disprove the walk
It is a man in an ape suit made for someone who is taller than him, wearing diapers for padding, walking awkwardly because the suit has poorly articulated ankles, imitating a groucho squat-walk.
It's a suit. Where's the real evidence?
>WELLL GORILLAS WERENT DISCOVERED UNTIL...
By europeans, while the natives were fricking eating them the whole time. Now we have them in zoos.
I like how there's this God of Gaps where if someone points out something strange in the video that implies it might not be a man in a costume, then there is an even stranger explanation for how a bunch of pranksters achieved that effect despite it being completely unlikely they expected such scrutiny.
>wearing diapers for padding
Just stop and fricking listen to yourself.
Sure anon. There is a large undocumented primate wandering around woods that have been heavily traveled by the forestry industry, hikers, and weed farmers and it has left exactly ZERO traces in the environment.
A large primate that just so happens to be the source of multiple confessed hoaxes and straight up scams preying on gullible idiots.
But whatever, here's one grainy video that looks like a guy in a suit but that totally isn't a guy in a suit because you insist.
Not to mention the fact that every fricking bigfoot moron eventually backpedals into claiming its an inter-dimensional being because the astounding lack of evidence speaks volumes to your tinfoil hat flat earth tier claims.
You see, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation of why we don't see them in the woods anymore.
Ever notice how politicians tend to look a bit weird? Odd proportions, weird skin, clumsy... How when you dig up you find out that despite supposedly being in opposite sides they often have connections to the same people like Epstein. How since the 60s shaving, laser depilation, makeup, wigs and hair transplant improved and became more common? Bigfoot not only left the woods long ago but also successfully infiltrated the government class. They distract the masses with their fake theater making people believe politicians from left and right are opposites when in fact they are mostly bigfoots working together to keep us under their control.
>laser mustache removal for Armenian women is simply an R&D cost recovery application for the sasquatch overlords....
As far as conspiracy theories go this on is on the believable side.
>Somehow, someone wearing padding under an ill fitting monkey suit sounds stranger than a magical primate that never leaves remains, stopped appearing on film after P&G fricked off, that we can't find with IR cameras on drones
>achieved that effect
It's has the resolution of an atari 64.
Any "effect" is in your imagination.
You can't even tell if it's fur, carpet or fricking lint from the dryer.
So basically the arguments are:
>BUT IT'S FAKE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
Argument from ignorance. It has yet to be proven, so therefore it must be false. We must dismiss the evidence, because where is all the evidence we should have found by now?
>IT HAD TO BE DIAPERS THAT WERE USED TO ACHIEVE AN AFFECT THAT MADE IT SEEM LESS LIKE A MAN WEARING A SUIT!
>THIS IS FAR MORE LIKELY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FOUND IT YET!
The diapers is a complete non-sequitur. Pranksters would just put on the suit, and why would it be ill-fitting if it was custom made? No store bought costume was ever found that is comparable.
>IT HAS BAD RESOLUTION, YOU CAN'T TELL ANYTHING, IT IS JUST YOUR IMAGINATION
Actually, no it doesn't and the footage has been stabilized to such an extent that people bicker about hair patterns and muscle under the skin. You just claim it has bad resolution because you don't want to debate those arguments.
It's like talking to flat earthers. Any evidence is dismissed instantly because they're right and anything proving them wrong must be false. And what's even better is you think me mocking your shitty arguments must mean I believe in Bigfoot. Do you know why I don't believe in Bigfoot? Because I fricking live in the Pacific Northwest and you'd at the very least find scat of this if it were a real animal. There are alternative theories, like extraterrestrial or interdimensional or really weird shit like the idea that some entity is manipulating human culture to achieve a desired effect - all very interesting ideas to me personally. But just as ideas, ones which you'll probably kneejerk criticize for no other reason than you don't think for yourselves and just nod your head at whatever the television tells you.
>people bicker about hair patterns and muscle under the skin
Nobody of importance. Just morons like yourself.
Every person with an actual education or degree in biology or similar fields sees the video as a hoax.
Once again.
Let's talk about THE FACTS of the so called encounter.
When and where was the film developed?
Why did they lie about the date of the filming?
>Every person with an actual education or degree in biology or similar fields sees the video as a hoax.
Where is the proof of this hoax?
>When and where was the film developed?
Why does this matter? I thought it was a simple costume.
>Why did they lie about the date of the filming?
Why does this matter? I thought it was a simple costume.
>BUT IT'S FAKE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
That's actually a really solid argument though. If you know something isn't consistent with what you know of reality, it makes sense to have a very sceptical attitude towards it.
You literally take this approach yourself when you say:
>Do you know why I don't believe in Bigfoot? Because I fricking live in the Pacific Northwest and you'd at the very least find scat of this if it were a real animal.
You feel safe dismissing the possibility of bigfoot existing (as a conventional animal, at least) because its existence would be contrary to your understanding of your environment (presumably reasonably reality-based).
I disproved it with-
I noticed you have not responded to any of my posts, even though I'm 11 out of the 31 replies.
>here's this random picture of a human walking ERGO BIGFOOT IS REAL!!!!!!
how brainlet do you have to be to be swayed by this
I'm agnostic about bigfoot but I'm tired of the Patterson-Gimlin footage being spammed to death as the ONLY thing to speculate for bigfoot
>runs away before actually getting a good look at it
Every time.
I would have run away way earlier. Would be happy to know for myself it was real
Completely fake. The forests of North America are perfectly safe, and you should go camping as soon as possible, preferably without your cellphone (you need to get away from it anyway). I'd also recommend bringing lots of beef jerky with you, and bathing in pig grease. Keeps the mosquitoes off you.
This but unironically. Humans are the apex predator and everything fears us. It helps if you're fat because that signals to the animals that you're a successful hunter and have eaten many before them.
>everything fears us
Clearly you've not been far enough north. Timber Wolves, Grizzly Bears, Moose, and Caribou don't really fear humans, and will choose aggression over retreat in many cases.
>alt schizo take
No reports isn't the same as no attacks. Anything that can prey on humans regularly must also avoid observation, i.e. Orcas
t. skinwalker