Does /k/ have an official approved dog breed for home defense/guard duty? I need a battle buddy to keep my wife and stepson (4yo) safe while I'm at work.
I'm going with pic related because as far as I'm concerned it's the only real dog. All other dogs are fake dogs.
>inb4 guns are better
For various reasons involving my lying psycho b***h ex that's not an option plus I just feel like the pitt would be cooler you know? This would be MY dog. I tamed this viscious beast. It belongs to me. I wanna get a rescue so I know it has fighting experience
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German shepherds are good for home defense.
Very loyal. However, they won't tell you that some of them are genetically defective. I'd recommend going with a trusted breeder, also it not being 100% pure helps when it comes to avoiding the genetic implication.
If you want an extremely late term abortion, then get a pitbull.
see
>now are they suitable as family pets proper game bred pitbulls i'd say probably not if you have a small child unless you are very familiar with the breed and a good trainer
>but i wouldn't trust any of the other dogs mentioned in this thread with children un-supervised, especially a dog like Chihuahua or belgian malinois in fact i'd trust a game bred pitbull over those dogs with children
Unironically my plan if my girl turns out to be lying about birth control
I suggest a Rottweiler because I've made very good experience with them. They are loyal, calm, territorial and attentive.
Get a female one and neuter her, preferably get it as puppy so it grows onto your family. You will need to spend a lot of time training it though.
Belgian Malinois. Or German Shepherd
I suggest you buy a gun and blow out your brains
>/k/
They don't talk about guns , it's a reddil safespace for Ukraine simps
>shitbull
again buy a gun and squeeze
Impressive.
There are two kinds:
Actual guard dogs
Noise makers
Actual guard dog needs to be one of a specific short list of breeds, must be well trained and you must keep up with that training throughout the dog's life to ensure appropriate response to various situations. An undisciplined killer is a shit guard dog. A frenly pal to strangers is a shit guard dog.
Noise makers are easier. Sonething with a nervous temperament that barks its head off at anything remotely out of the ordinary is going to be most effective. Training required for your and your neighbor's sanity.
female rottweiler
Honestly just go to the shelter and test walk some of the bigger shitbull tier mutts. Pick the calmist beaten up looking frick that's ugly and been there for over a year. Give that sad frick better food and bed than it had at the shelter, and give attention, pets and regular walks and it will become insta loyal and protective of you within 6 months. Now you have an ugly walking buddy for late nights downtown that no bum walks up on. That dog will frick up anything for the lifestyle you provide it. That's how I got my dog, he's chill and ugly yet easy going except if there's shit going down towards me.
German shepherd.
Belgian malinois.
Chihuahua.
Mastiff
> I just feel like the pitt would be cooler you know? This would be MY dog. I tamed this viscious beast. It belongs to me. I wanna get a rescue so I know it has fighting experience
pitbull's were bred to be animal aggressive not human aggressive
>some background
i'd trust a game bred pitbull to be friendly over a neurotic attack dog like a belgian malinois
it's not true at all that pitbull's see humans as prey they need to be handled all the way from back when they actually fought in the pit and a referee would handle the dogs in the pit
they are more untrustworthy of strangers rather than just be super aggressive and try and attack people like a guard dog would
also one breeder might not be able to tend to all the dogs on his yard so he needs help watering, feeding, exercising the dogs so they can't just go crazy and randomly bite people also they may need to go to vet or the bugman comes onto the yard to stop flees etc etc...
also they are used in hog hunting often a breeder would loan out his dogs to a pig hunter to have them catch hogs in order to prove they are doing their job "i have proven dogs ask (insert hog hunter) he hunted them" makes them more desirable
i am referring to game bred pitbulls not all the other random shit like xl pitbulls or whatever they are calling these dogs
so you're options for a real guard dog are
>presa canario
>cane corso
>boerboel
>bandog (game bred pitbull mixed with a mastiff breed)
others have probably said
>dobermans
>german shepherds
>rottweillers
>mallionios
out of all those dogs i'd get a cane corso or rottweiler from a reputable breeder i think the other dogs are too hot for you and the dobies and gsd's are too watered down or difficult to find a decent well bred working line example
lastly this is a bait thread but whatever
what you should ask /k/ is ways to fortify your home lights, camera's, alarms and beef up it's security and look into less lethal options if you can't get a firearm for you and your wife
all that being said you should downsize the house and move into a smaller apartment in a good area where the crime rate isn't as bad
if you can't do that just get a watch dog like a jack russel or something that will bark at a whiff of air that didn't flow right and like i said look into home security like 3m shatterless glass window coverings, a surveillance system with motion detectors, night vision and spot lights and making sure door ways and windows at the front of the house aren't obscured from the road giving someone cover while they pry your lock or whatever planting prickly bushes at the base of all the windows so its sucky to try and sit in the bush and work on the window at night to gain entry
getting one of those doors that have 3 points of locking or if you wanna be cheap just have like an oldschool piece of wood or metal hung across the door on two holders bolted into the wall
going round and making sure all the locks for the windows and doors at your place work and if they don't fix them or replace them
putting up a sign in the garden saying you are protected by a security company
don't have big cardboard boxes of the flat screen tv you just bought sitting by the bin out the front shit like that
theirs decent videos of this shit on youtube
less lethal options could be pepper spray for the wife maybe a taser or billy club for you
>I need a battle buddy to keep my wife and stepson (4yo) safe while I'm at work.
>I'm going with pic related because as far as I'm concerned it's the only real dog. All other dogs are fake dogs.
Yeah, your pic related is the way to go.
Just make sure you properly socialize the dog if you want him to take care of your wife's son. Like, get them playing together as soon as you bring the dog home from the shelter, that's when the dog will be most stressed so it's important he gets used to the kid immediately before any bad habits form. Remember that tough dogs like this need a firm hand, you or your wife's son can't be afraid to raise your voice if it's starts to growl or run away or misbehave.
Get yourself a SMASHED and SLAMMED guard dog.
The Doberman is a pretty good guard dog for protection reasons if you consider yourself a novice dog trainer as even though it is still significantly more difficult than training a Labrador Retriever, it is still very doable even for first time dog owners who are willing to put effort into it.
The Belgian Malinois is even better in terms of intellect and overall instincts but only recommended for experienced owners as training one as a first time owner is pretty much impossible.
>as training one as a first time owner is pretty much impossible.
Explain??
The Belgian Malinois craves the life of an action movie hero. They are pretty much bred 100% for the purpose of being put in a working environment that requires full on dog athleticism and are hell bent on fulfilling their given tasks. If you do not give them something to do, they will find make their own tasks and you will not be able to contain them as they can climb over yard walls and they will trash your home as well as chase people and bite them. They are nicknamed the Maligator for a reason.Even if you are able to give them a proper task you still need to train them properly which will require around 3 hours a day and you also need to dedicate time to burn off their energy with exercise. Basically they require large amounts of mental and physical stimulation that requires a lot of time and effort from you and you can not afford to be figuring shit out with this dog as a novice owner as this dog will make your life a living hell while you are scratching your head trying to get things to work.
Wtf? I grew up with a malinois and never had any issues
I don't know what else to say other than you probably got lucky or you are a dog training prodigy. Everyone else's experience from what I have heard and read as well as my own is that Malinois are hectic and very difficult dogs.
he is talking about american police/mil line dogs
these are extremely neurotic and mixed with pitbulls
the normal malinois is EXACTLY like a german shepherd, or what a german shepherd was before americans ruined those too
Dogs don't have "animal aggressive". They have FEAR aggressive (defense of self/property), PEER aggressive (dominance), and PREY DRIVE.
Of these, only the last two reliably result in the dog attacking some animal. The last, PREY DRIVE, is literally, neurologically, NOT A FORM OF AGGRESSION, and a prey driven dog will show absolutely no signs of aggression before enacting a predatory sequence. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "ANIMAL AGGRESSION" IN DOGS, IF THEY ARE NOT GENERALLY DOMINANT AGGRESSIVE WITH HUMANS AND DOGS ALIKE THEY ARE PREY DRIVEN, AND THIS BEHAVIOR IS MOST CLOSELY RELATED TO PLAYING.
And PREY DRIVE is the most common trait selected for in terriers including the bulldog mutt terriers that are called pitbulls. Specifically a disordered prey drive, that is stronger than that of a wolf, and has been altered by selective breeding to eliminate the stalking and pointing aspects so they go straight to charge bite and shake until dead. And then, the pitbull eats.
The scary thing is the prey drive is strong enough for them to view adult humans as prey.
having a prey driven dog is fun but also scary when you realize how they would be if they were capable of seeing humans as food
>hanging out with dog
>dog stands up and looks at a bush with one paw raised
>huh?
>split second they're off like lighting and shaking a rat to death
Good job doggo?
I didn't even know that there were already "normal" belgian malinois. I thought all of the working line was all there was.
Normal mals are basically extinct in the USA now because of tactitroony tryhards
Got mine for $800 at 6 weeks. Or 30oz of silver at the time. I wouldn't want ANY other dog. I trained it well
Had to give it up after +2yrs due to a housing situation, as boomers don't like pets. Shit broke my heart. Whoever got her seriously got a million dollar dog. Probably went to boomers. The irony..
dude stop with the CAPS i don't care about what you learnt from reading some reddit dog psychology pseudo-science
you can call it whatever you want pitbull was made to attack animal's and not humans that was the goal and they were bred like that for over a hundred years
some might even say +300 years and the whole old english terrier and old english bulldog cross to make the pitbull is bullshit as their are depictions of pitbull type dogs in illustrations dating 300 years ago attacking boar
>The scary thing is the prey drive is strong enough for them to view adult humans as prey.
no it isn't see
and re-read
despite what you learnt on Wauf game bred pitbull's aren't as stupid as you think they can differentiate especially after like i said 100 years of selective breeding the difference between something on 4 legs and something on two that is way taller than them
now are they suitable as family pets proper game bred pitbulls i'd say probably not if you have a small child unless you are very familiar with the breed and a good trainer
but i wouldn't trust any of the other dogs mentioned in this thread with children un-supervised, especially a dog like Chihuahua or belgian malinois in fact i'd trust a game bred pitbull over those dogs with children
>noooo pitbulls are animal aggressive
read my post again you fricking moron
there is NO SUCH THING AS "ANIMAL AGGRESSIVE" WITH DOGS.
Period. You fricking IDIOT.
NO SUCH THING
>bbbut
NO. moron.
A pitbull wad meant to attack, period. They are the only dog that attacks humans with the intent to KILL as frequently as they do. A pitbull was bred to KILL, period. Prey drive doesn't see animal and human, it sees size and threat level. There's a reason akitas and karelian bear dogs are similar in risk.
PITBULLS
DESPITE BEING 6% OF DOGS
ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF FATAL ATTACKS
BRED TO KILL ANIMALS OF ANY SIZE AND THREAT? HUMANS ARE ANIMALS, AMONG THE LARGEST AND MOST THREATENING, AND ARE ON PIBBLES SHOPPING LIST
SIX PERCENT OF DOGS
SIXTY PERCENT OF THE FATAL ATTACKS
PITBULLS END THIRTY HUMAN LIVES EACH YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES ON AVERAGE
LABS END LESS THAN ONE, DESPITE BEING THE MOST COMMONLY OWNED AND ABUSED DOG ON EARTH, AND THERE IS A NON-ZERO CHANCE THAT FATAL LAB ATTACKS ARE LAB-PITBULL MIXES
COLLIE TYPE DOGS END, GUESS WHAT
ZERO. COLLIES KILL ZERO PEOPLE EACH YEAR ON AVERAGE. Z E R O.
IF YOU WANNA DEBATE THIS
YOU APOLOGIZE TO THE FAMILIES OF THOSE 30 PEOPLE FOR THIS YEAR, THE LAST ONE, AND THE NEXT ONE, PERSONALLY
AND TELL THEM
"ACTUALLY PITBULLS ARE ONLY MEANT TO ATTACK LARGE DANGEROUS ANIMALS LIKE HUMANS, NOT HUMANS"
FRICKING
IDIOT
DUMB ASS
DOG FRICKER
Yes, one of my loved ones DID lose a body part to a fricking shitbull subcanine mutant
sorry about your loved ones but i'm afraid you are blinded by the trauma that was inflicted on you
i didn't read the wall of CAPS just scanned it
also if we lumped all hunting dogs into one group instead of individual breeds like they do pitbulls they'd have large bite/attack statistics as well
as i keep saying i'm talking about game bred pitbulls not mutt's and bandogs
>despite what you learnt on Wauf game bred pitbull's aren't as stupid as you think they can differentiate especially after like i said 100 years of selective breeding the difference between something on 4 legs and something on two that is way taller than them
A dog is a dog no matter how much you breed them
You aren't smart enough to rewrite instincts, not in 100 years not in 40,000 years. Only strengthen them or weaken them selectively. All wolves ever knew was grass munchers, rat-things, and their fellow wolves and large carnivores. And it took millions of years for that to evolve.
Humans are large predatory animals. If a dog hunts large predatory prey, it hunts large predatory prey. Period. That includes humans. Pitbulls, a group of 5-7 breeds descending from the bull and terrier, exhibit a typical wolf behavior where they target the young, female, and old/weak of other predators. This behavior has been selectively removed from other dogs, but enhanced in terriers and their descendants.
And they are the only ones, besides some oddball spitz breeds that everyone agrees are murderous and shouldn't be anywhere near a child, that do this.
ok then why are orca's just now attacking boats after hundreds of years of leaving humans alone?
i mean an orca is an orca amirite?
obvious troll thread but unless you have tens of thousands to spend on an actual trained guard dog the best your dog can do is alert you someone is near. Sure you can get an aggressive breed known to attack people like an akita or caucasian shepard but youre going to end up being the b***h in the relationship and the dog will dominate you and your family
My Rhodesian Ridgeback was a natural guard dog. A guy jumped the fence once and he grabbed the guy and dragged him around the yard. He didn't maul him he just stood over him and dragged him by his clothing. He tore the guys clothing up pretty badly but he wasn't injured. I never trained him or anything.
Sadly that dog jumped my 7 foot fence and then got hit by a truck.
Many large mastiff breeds like English Mastiff were bred for home guarding,but any big dog will serve the purpose to some degree.. Different thing than a protection dog, which require professional training. Some good protection breeds are GSD, Doberman, Giant Schnauzer.
Years ago I was walking home from a party early in the morning and decided to cut through a few yards.
I hopped over a fence and had this uneasy feeling when I noticed a pile of leaves staring at me, and then it stood up and growled at me and I realized it was a huge mastiff that was at least as big as I was.
I've never been afraid of an animal before but my fight or flight instincts kicked in and I set a land speed record sprinting the remaining two miles home.
Are house robbers actually versed in dog breeds or could you just get a giga-moron like a great dane?
The robbers with a bare minimum of wits will poison dogs at the target house and several nearby houses while rolling through on a bike late at night to prep.
The robbers with more wits will do the fuel filter trick to silence a .22 pistol and bring treats to avoid arousing suspicion, and these ones are versed in dog breeds so they know that a retriever/husky does not need terminated (they always might botch it and cause a lot of noise) - and most pitbulls don't either. However, mastiffs that are actually trained to be guard dogs can not be bribed, it's the first thing they learn, and the point o their ugly physique is to make it hard to find and hit a vital point, so these ones will be avoided.
you have to be 21 to post here, moron
get a pitbull. make sure to make another thread when you do to make all of Wauf seethe and shit their pants
>looking for guard dog
>get shitbull
>come home to find your child and wife mauled to death
>shitbull nowhere to be found
>I bet this is the fault of black people
I am a professional thief and pitbulls are worthless to me. You might as well get a husky.
Pitbulls are bar none the gayest fricking dogs on earth and no matter how badass you think they are 7/10 run and 3/10 will take bribes. If theres a 1 in 1 million that does not they weigh 40 pounds tops and dogs die instantly with minimal noise after a good crowbar to the top of the head. They're so tiny and moronic that you would need a pack of 4+ to stop anyone. There are real guard dogs, and they are called mastiffs and malinois, not overgrown terriers AKA rat dogs. The mastiff is big enough to stop a man, the malinois is smart enough to.
A pitbull is just an aggro moron meant to die fighting other dogs for other morons entertainment. All it is good for is killing someone elses pet that doesn't even want to fight because it's not an aggressive moron, and killing women and small children. If you keep one of those shits in your home you are saying "i want my race to go extinct so i only use the finest in legal ultra late term abortion". So congratulations on being a cuck, and I am still robbing your house because it's almost a 10/10 chance your dog won't do shit to me because i am not a poodle, toddler, or a karen.
I feel like the vast majority of public pit attacks would be far less of an issue if people weren't so mindbroken that they don't want to harm a poor pitty that's currently mauling a person/animal.
Those videos are infuriating when there's a crowd of people pissing and shitting themselves slapping a mauling pit instead of just cracking its skull with a heavy blunt object.
I saw one where the only actual man present went at it with a knife
A bunch of women held him back
The pitbull was in the process of tearing the skin off a golden retrievers leg and was allowed to finish
Kill all liberals
>A bunch of women held him back
There was an incident where a guy's dog got killed by a shitbull, the guy picked the fricker up, took it to his kitchen, and butchered it slasher style with a 12 inch chef's knife
>humans: are animals
>pit fricker homosexuals: actually pitbulls are only "animal aggressive" (read: fully predatory)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/police-found-pit-bulls-eating-11719337
yeah and i'm sure a tiger is only "animal aggressive" when it has a blast ripping the spine out of a sun bear, and it would never do that to you, because you aren't a sunbear, you're just another big creature with two forward facing eyes that rears up on two legs.
Good on him
the stats on huskies are very interesting
9/13 attacks were on infants
the typical aftermath was not guts strewn about, but bite marks to the top of the head with minimal injury
huskies have one of the strongest bites out of all dogs and are known for being rough with everything, even their puppies, while infant humans have some of the weakest necks and skulls. picking one up by its head is an instant kill.
dogs follow their instincts, no matter what you think they should do those instincts will often apply to humans.
>https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/police-found-pit-bulls-eating-11719337
that's pretty brutal
What is with all these stories of people raising pits from puppies or for almost 10 years only for them to turn and murder them?
Like I'd get it if it were a rescue, a lot of those are mentally damaged, but why would a pit kill someone who's raised it its entire life?
Prey drive is something beyond humans comprehension because ours is pretty weak. It manifests as your childhood urge to run after fast moving things, throw rocks, and hit stuff with sticks. You did that as a kid if you are a normal man, guaranteed, until the adults told you to be nice.
So, most dog owners with highly prey driven dogs do not understand or expect it at all. And pitbulls are beyond prey driven, it's like a moronic wolf at that point. Pet wolves will stalk and eat your neighbors. Pitbulls are so coked up and moronic that they'll eat you if you come back from vacation smelling slightly different.
Prey drive is something that's preferable to have in a working dog for trainability as it can be diverted to toys/balls as play rewards or tasks for work, high prey drive doesn't necessarily mean the dog is going to always chase game around or try to murder things because they're intelligent enough to learn the difference and have self control
Whatever pitbulls have is something else entirely, from the few attacks I've seen at dog parks it's like a murder switch that gets flipped on out of nowhere, it's not prey drive and it's not dominance aggression
That is prey drive. It's a multi-stage sequence and we can selectively alter each stage of it through selecting heritable behaviors.
>Aspects. In all predators the prey drive follows an inevitable sequence: Search (orient, nose/ear/eye); Stalk; Chase; Bite (grab-bite, kill-bite); Dissect; Consume.
Guess which ones are enhanced in pitbulls and which ones are reduced - to increase the element of surprise in a pit fight.
Because they were never bred to be guard dogs, they were always originally bred TO fight. A high inclination to bite and hold and keep going and don't stop is built into them.
That being said, when dogfighting was still a popular thing, dogs biting their handlers wasn't allowed. Any dog that attacked a human was beaten or culled.
But the recent breeding of pits has ignored anything and everything to do with temperament, for the most part. So the aggression had been allowed to run rampant. Pits that attack small dogs, big dogs, cats and toddlers don't get killed anymore. They get put into shelters and advertised as 'a sweetie that just needs some love'.
see
also if we lumped all hunting dogs into one group instead of individual breeds like they do pitbulls they'd have large bite/attack statistics as well
>we comparing tigers to pitbulls now
two completely different species of animal
My brothers are professional thieves and crooks, been on news, only ones in jail currently today. They both say a guard dog is only as good as how loud it's bark and first bite is cause otherwise small or big all dogs scatter quick from a gun shot.
Point of a guard dog for me is this: fricker be loud and let me know I need to grab my weapon or go already. Otherwise it's just a dog, chill guy, watches tv.
dumb moron nutjob OP got his gun priveleges revoked for being a dumb moron nutjob and now he's going to get a pitbull to eat his toddler because he is an irresponsible poopoohead
that's a ni**erdog
low quality bait
nah, thread was moved here from /k/ for some reason. Pittbulls are a valid self defense concern so I dunno why there is some unwritten/unstated taboo around the topic.
Is this a plot on your part to get your stepson out of the way by having him mauled by a pittie?
Delightfully devilish, dastardly even if so.
Get a Weimeraner or Airedale Terrier.
At least getting a pitbull will take care of your stepson problem
Buy a pitbull to keep your kid safe?
More like buy a pitbull to chew his arteries open. They never learn.
>/k/ - Pitbulls
guard dogs would fall under the purview of /k/, yes. Just like how we sometimes overlap with /x/ and Wauf
Animals have been used as weapons for most of human history. Discussing what dog would be best for home defense is no different than discussing what handgun you should carry for CC.
Op, I know this is a bait thread, but a great Pyrenees would be a much better HD dog.
Some ideas for tricks you can train your pitbull to do
Don't get a pitbull unless you know what you're doing, their behaviour is volatile and they require a lot of attention, plus you need to start training it from a very young age.
t. owns an amstaff
I know what I'm doing. I was a little worred about the size of the apartment (1bedroom) because I don't want it chewing up my Yeezys but my wife agreed to walk it and my son is almost old enough to do it himself. He's got that autism shit so an animal will help him get less moronic.
You're gonna let a child, let alone an autistic one walk one of the most unpredictable dogs alone? You're asking for your dog to be put down
Oh boy time for the 15th fricking pitbull thread within the last week
Better than a Ukraine thread
Previous thread seemed to come to the consensus that Toadies are basedbulls and ideal for keeping your stepson safe.
pit bulls top out at like 70 lbs, its a small dog for gay morons who smell like a butt and eat poop
This feels like you're going to end up on the evening news for all the wrong reasons.
Shitbulls are great if you're a dirty stinky smelly subhuman.
I suggest a German Shepard but for fricks sake have it professionally trained.
German sheperds are expensive and gay. Hipster dogs. Pitt is more badass and authentic. I forgot to mention I live in an apartment so I don't have alot of room for this thing to roam around and I feel like the pitt would be better acclimated to that lifestyle
You're right. You should get one of these little shits. Dachshunds are vicious little wienersuckers.
Don't forget when that women got killed by like seven of these little fricks.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5280769/dog-attack-dachshund-woman-oklahoma-death/%3famp=true
>Be old woman.
>Minding my own business.
>As I'm walking in the park, some fricker with a army of Dachshunds releases them on me.
>As I do my final stand against the vicious, 1 foot tall, 10 pound beasts, they tear into my feeble ankles.
>I fall and break my hip in the process, the ensuing pain causes me to have a heart attack, and before I slam into the ground, I'm dead.
>News report blames it on dachshunds.
>Six of the dogs were likely dachshund-terrier mixes, and one was a border collie mix,
>mixes
I wonder, with what sort of terrier
https://www.animals24-7.org/2018/05/17/how-tabloids-turned-the-pits-who-killed-tracy-garcia-into-dachshunds/
They were bull terriers. Typical bred en masse for ratting and dogfights.
merrit clifton has had some really fricking moronic opinions, like his comments on cats and dogs, and likely posts here, but when he's right he's right.
>nooo dogs are inferior to cats a dog that kills a cat will kill a child next! cats kill, dogs scavenge, cats are free, dogs are slave!
>greyhounds: lol. *6,000,000 cat deaths, 0 children*
1/10 b8 m8
Step up your game anon
>I just feel like the pitt would be cooler you know?
Or you could go with any of the hundreds of other dog breeds that are not considered dangerous by the general public and will have you actively discriminated against and treated like a second class citizen.
https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/purebred.htm
But let me guess...you think piddles the Pitbull is just...misunderstood, right?
Pitbulls are as badass as a Tapout T-shirt and about as authentic as a Taco Bell in Mexico. Nobody thinks you are cool for owning one. Have some class.
>1 bedroom.
That poor mongrel. Get a house before you own a dog.
have a nice day
this
/an/ons need to get their shit together and recognize obvious bait
This but unironicly. Different friends got GSDs recently unbelievably better pets than pitfalls my family owns.
Dogs are tools get a the right tool for the job.
It's a good thing for anon then that the job he wants done is to kill his stepson with deniability