My gf is obsessed with getting an American Akita ever since I made the mistake of watching that stupid Richard Gere movie. She has zero dog handling experience. How bad an idea is this?
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My gf is obsessed with getting an American Akita ever since I made the mistake of watching that stupid Richard Gere movie. She has zero dog handling experience. How bad an idea is this?
Pits act as a lighting rod for all the hate these dogs along with other aggressive breeds like malinois and dobermans should receive.
Don't get me wrong they are absolutely on the top of the pyramid but they completely dominate the conversation.
>hey my girlfriend wants (designer pet).
Leave them immediately, for they are a stupid cunt with no concept of empathy or responsibility. This is the attitude of a spoiled child and I guarantee no amount of advice or explanation will change her mind on breed or pedigree. You will end up taking care of that dog yourself.
I've warned so many friends about this shit before. Their dumb cunt live-in gf wants a designer dog that costs thousands and is guaranteed to be inbred, won't be talked out of it, won't even entertain looking at a shelter, and then inevitably neglects the ultra-high-maint dog they demanded until my friend finally realizes what a cunt they are and kicks them out. Hopefully before they get cheated on but not usually.
Fuck I hate people that demand designer dogs. They're living things not toys.
i demand designer dogs because 40,000 years of domestication has produced some insufferable pathetic disgustng worthless shit eating constantly barking drooling child mauling canine-shaped piles of LITERAL SHIT that even smell like it and all those trash genetics from "dogs" meant to live on a chain and die fighting off a bear or mauling enemy soldiers, other dogs, or hogs absolutely do pollute the "mutts". prolifically. these creatures are so pathetically stupid they will eat themselves to death. do any wild wolves normally die eating a stick or a rock? no. if they did they died before reproducing.
dogs are garbage.
if you want them to be less garbage, support "designer dogs" that attempt to filter out some of that 40,000 years of dysgenic trash. or let's just put an end to "dogs" and start over. they're too far gone. use CRISPR to make midget wolves with williams syndrome and never go further, kind of like the canine version of cats.
>Adopt dont shop they are living things:
>Pitbull bulldog beagle lab german shepherd mix
>Hair trigger, uncontrollable once going
>Pathologically eat turds like candy
>Obeys all commands the first time but can not figure out how to open a cracked door that needs pulled rather than pushed
>Might not be able to figure out pushing open doors either
>Will die if left alone with anything that fits in their mouth
>Needs locked in a cage when not being actively "enjoyed" for their own survival
>Food and sometimes water have to be rationed so they don't vomit/die
>Can't move after eating or they die
>Average lifespan: 5 if you put them down when they're in pain, 7 otherwise
>Designer dog literally animal cruelty breeders are basically josef mengele x1000000
>Performance bred australian shepherd frequently outcrossed with other dogs displaying desirable characteristics
>Strong but controllable herding instincts, mentally present, never in a trance
>Safe around all people unless provoked to an extreme degree
>Does not eat turds in any situation a wolf wouldn't
>Obeys well if treated well, highly intelligent for a dog
>Can sit in a room surrounded by open trash cans for 10 hours without digging through any of them
>Skinny despite free feeding
>won't die if they walk for 5 minutes after breakfast
>Average lifespan: 15-20
>watch movie with a dog breed in it that you fall in love with
>obsess over a completely different dog breed
why are w*men so retarded bros?
So, who's prettier; the dog or the gf? Mind you, if said dog is female, I personally don't feel the need to question further. Can't get it pregnant, easier/cheaper to keep happy, will gladly kill for you, snuggly, and if you get tired of it or it gives you shit, just shoot it and say it attacked you.
Just make her watch air bud you retarded
there's a lot of retarded posters in here, but the statistics show that there have really only been a handful of akita attacks in the US. 8 reported deaths in the last 30 years does not seem to warrant their reputation, even though they are certainly powerful and independent.
for how few akitas there are, that's a lot
the irl dog popularity rankings, not the akc purebred ones, go like
5: small dogs
If you can not easily pick up a dog and carry them for at least one mile without stopping or the dog struggling to escape, you shouldn't be allowed to own that dog. It's not yours and doesn't want to be.
Someone should make this a law.
I think people really underestimate breeds that are "independent" and how stubborn or difficult they can be to motivate or train.
my dog goes fucking nuts every time he sees an akita, and there are three of them constantly out on walks in my neighborhood now. He can now smell it when they are out, so once he gets a whiff of the wind he might already snap long before we even get to them. No other dog ever made him bark or lash out, but akitas scare him
>be scared of something
>start barking at it
Dogs are retarded
>Be scared of something
>Try and scare it away
makes perfect sense
What's retarded is how modern breeds ONLY bark. Wolves and primitive dogs have a wide vocal repertoire. They have a "FUCK OFF gay" angry bark. They have a less grating "alert, you are too close to my house" bark. They have excited awoowoos, greeting aroos, happy eeeeh eeeeh noises, grumbles, and howls. Only the angry bark is really irritating and it's meant to be.
And then you spend one day interacting with, for example, a goldendoodle, or a border collie, or whatever. The noise they make for every single thing is the exact same BARK. They're fucking retarded. German shepherds are the worst, they usually only have the angry bark. even when they're playing.
true. i don't think western dogs even have the hardware to make noises other than barks and whines anymore. akitas "talk".
my poodle has a pretty wide vocal repertoire including play barks, scared barks, angry barks, clucking sounds, whimpers, awoos, rusty howling, snarling, etc. I think a lot if not most of modern dogs do..
They have some pretty annoying barks and retarded howls, but hound breeds definitely have a variety of sighs, grunts, misc grumbles, yodels and non-howling awoowoos that kinda sound like they’re mimicking a human voice. Some even do the diva screaming shit a shiba or husky is known for. Even pups from the same litter will sound slightly different from one another.
I don’t think you can really get more western than the dozens of hound breeds/mixes.
>bark at a scary thing outside the window once
>scary thing is passing by, so it leaves
>new behaviour unlocked: bark at things and they go away
Spitz dogs like Akitas and Huskys tend to set other dogs off. They're more primative (that's why their personalities tend to be so weird and also why OP is a stupid gay for letting his woman even consider an Akita as her first dog) and other dogs notice it. Too much wolf in them I think.
They know they’re inferior and lash out. It’s a common behavior.
Chimps attack gorillas
Hyenas attack lions
History of germany
>asian military breed
This is like next level danger.
Yeah, nah. Someone's dog/child/grandma would get mauled to death, a small weak woman cant control one of these.
Talk her into getting a Shiba Inu instead.
Memes aside, as someone who grew up with one as a kid, with parents who had all sorts of dogs before having me, have some experience with other breeds first. Work your way up. Akitas are a lot, more so if you don’t have experience with dogs in general.
Serious question, Is your girl getting fucked by your dog really such a bad thing? If your dog keeps her satisfied atleast she won't go and fuck other men. And it's your loyal bro fucking her, so everything's cool. I know Wauf only says it as a joke, but I am tired of getting betrayed again and again. I am in a new relationship and I'm thinking of asking her.
Is it bad to eat your dog's pussy? Serious question.
Idk. My dog's a male.
If the dog is fucking your girl, he owns the house. You're going to have serious problems with obedience and aggression, especially with a huge dog like OP.
If you're ok with becoming your dog's bitch too along with your girl, then no problem. Let us know how it goes
>If the dog is fucking your girl, he owns the house. You're going to have serious problems with obedience and aggression, especially with a huge dog like OP.
Come on. You are acting like the dog understands the concept of sex on human level. Wluldn't it be just sex for him.
No it's instinct. If he can do what he wants with the female, he can do what he wants full stop. It's never just about sex, that's a very human way of thinking about it.
So you either both become his fucktoy, or your girl becomes his fucktoy and you become his chewtoy. Choose
I sorta want to be his fucktoy AND his chewtoy
What's the genre name for submissive men being violently dominated by big male dogs?
I’m sure you’ll find a thread you’ll like there
>What's the genre name for submissive men being violently dominated by big male
good boy clearly doing what he's been trained to do
He's going to take over the house and do basically whatever he wants with your girlfriend, but that might not be the worst thing ever?
Look at this video if you want to see how bad an idea this is... Also you can almost see the Pitt go "oh shit" as soon as it got close.
>that pit apologist voiceover
don't get an akita because of that video either. a lot of larger spitzes can put pitbulls in their place without necessarily being super aggressive, no need to get an akita for that. a little protectiveness triggered by such an extreme event as an inferior dog attacking is fine.
notice the pitbull is fine, but shaken and submissive, at the end.
a lot of better mastiff breeds will also pin pitbulls by their necks, and let them go when they submit without doing any serious damage.
on the other hand, an undescribed mutation for impulsive aggression is spreading among golden retrievers from too much inbreeding, making them behave like pitbulls and attack and kill other dogs without provocation.
>Goldens are turning into pit bulls
Back to Europe.
Very, during world war 2 they were crossed with GSDs to help their falling numbers. If you can’t handle a German Shepherd you sure as hell can’t handle an Akita.
Furthermore, Asian Spitzes aren’t known for their friendly temperaments. Many are reserved with strangers and only mediocre with other dogs. Think of the Shar Pei and Chow Chow which are closely related to the Akita.
Do not let your girlfriend buy a massively hyperactive breed of dog just because it look cute. Chances are it will never be trained properly and end up in a kill shelter
Get a female. Makes dog ownership super easy.
Male dogs are straight up trash. Only good for attacking shit because they’re bigger. Breeders should figure out how to make all dogs in a litter phenotypically female.
Females are much more temperamental anon, you're a retard.
>My gf is obsessed with getting an American Akita
Is your girlfriend white?
I'd tell her it's a great idea then break up with her as soon as it bites someone so you're not liable
My mom decided to get one when I was about 12. It was too much for her to handle, Could literally drag me across the ground with a choke collar on and had a huge problem with jumping on people and shoving its paw in peoples faces, or blowing them over like a fucking linebacker so she forced me and my dad to construct a 30' X 40' foot pen outside for it and just kept it out there and passed food through a little door my dad constructed in the fence. It got out a few times and took half the neighborhood to catch the fucking thing because of how fast and strong it was. I literally watched my neighbor try to tackle it only for him to end up riding it like a horse right into traffic and nearly get hit by a car.
The story does have a happy ending though. Somehow something got in her stupid woman brain and she ended up giving him away to a older man who trains dogs to detect epilepsy and after a few months he messaged us back to say that he was doing better than any other dog he ever had and had already alerted him to a couple of episodes.
>ended up riding him like a horse right into traffic and nearly getting hit by a car
Based Akita. Great idea OP
If you both invest time and effort into making the situation work it's not impossible, just do your due diligence with research, training, and socialization, and make sure your homeowners insurance allows them, if they don't and the insurance company finds out you have one they can cancel your policy.
Tell your girlfriend it is a dumb idea, please.
Have fun being dominated by a 50kg+ death machine neither you or she has the first idea about how to handle because of a retarded movie. You would be better off leaving a loaded gun and a toddler in a room together.
Fucking experienced dog handlers are hesitant when it comes to American Akitas because they are stubborn, domineering, Hugh prey drive, hard to train, aggressive to other animals and people, and are big enough to kill or at the very least do very serious damage to you.
>tl;dr this is a fucking stupid idea.
Forgot to attach pic of the last thing you'll ever see
Female american akitas are pretty manageable actually
God help you if you have an intact male or one that wasn't neutered at birth to tank his test levels, or if the female has pups to defend. They are wild animal levels of motherly over their pups.
My mom had one growing up and she was a bitch, she just liked killing things, it wasn't even like an outburst of aggression. She'd just try to kill other female dogs, chickens and cats. I think she might do it to toddlers if she was unattended
NPCs being driven to buy animals because they watched some media. Like clockwork.
its a suicide act
Japanese Akitas are more intelligent and able to control themselves.
American akitas got mutted up with "dogs that remind you of a certain kind of person" to make them more aggressive (the american idea of a guard dog is a yard dog, no training no control, snap-aggression/prey drive), which is why they are darker and have flatter noses with fatter lips
>American akitas got mutted up
You have a source on this or are you just another mindless anti-American drone?
American akitas come from a fighting line and were mixed with tosas with the goal of making them more wild and "game", as dogfights in japan at the time were still 99% bloody. Americans prefer them like this.
Japanese akitas come from a hunting line and are more related to shiba and hokkaido dogs, so they are more intelligent, handsome, and controllable. Japanese prefer them like this.
You just know
>She has zero dog handling experience. How bad an idea is this?
>zero dog handling experience
>zero experience with a large dog
>zero experience with a large and potentially aggressive dog
That is a bad idea
Explain to her that a large dog needs an owner experienced with dogs
Explain to her that Akitas have a particular kind of personality that requires an experienced and prepared owner
Start her off on a small dog
They were crossbred with Mastiffs
They aren't mutts or shitbuls
There are two videos with him
A video with his pups
And a video with the wife just dropped today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a45yAeeZzM
Kumas first video is a good example of the problem some people can have with American Akitas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFMlGNXVmk
He is very aloof and not easily read like a typical dog, this can be disconcerting and you dont know if you're doing something that can provoke
OP the handler specifically says it is not a dog for a first time owner, show her this video please
>They were crossbred with Mastiffs
>They aren't mutts or shitbuls
They actually are. The purebred Akita Inu we know today wasn't a thing back then. Purebred dogs in general were a fruity concept. Dogs were bred to their purpose.
The american akita came from a dogfighting line that contained non-negligible tosa admixture as well as general selection for fighting behaviors, which tends towards giving dogs blockier heads, more splayed out legs, and disgusting looking faces.
The Japanese Akita AKA the Real Akita came from hunting dogs and family guardians. They are more intelligent and level headed, less dog aggressive, but also more prey driven.
Not necessarily, the American version comes from at least 6 dogs. Including the Japanese Akita, Hokkaido dog, and German shepherd dog. The mastiff you’re talking about was way before the American version.
The American Akita shows clear hunting and guard dog traits which you attribute to only the Akita Inu, it was crossbred with mastiffs and hounds
>Since it is a large, powerful dog, the Akita is not considered a breed for a first-time dog owner. The breed has been defined in some countries' breed-specific legislation as a dangerous dog. The Akita is a large, strong, independent, and dominant dog. A well-trained Akita should be accepting of nonthreatening strangers, otherwise they treat all strangers in an aggressive manner.
Enjoy getting mauled by your gf's poorly trained akita and spending your final moments listening as it fucks her.
>and spending your final moments listening as it fucks her
Stay mad, white boy.
i-is there a video
Yes, she has a youtube channel
GWtD on YT.
This Akita's name is Kuma. He also has an Instagram.
thats a different kuma
another false kuma
It's the way she softly rests her head on his, respecting his power but at the same time craving it
Yeah, the dog certainly is given those
>you know that i''m going to be balls deep in her tonight
He knows he's in charge. Imagine dating a woman like that, knowing full well you're always going to come second place to that muscular, powerful beast.
The dog knows it too. You wouldn't be able to train or command him, he walks all over you and it makes her respect you less as a man. But what can you do, he won't obey an inferior, clearly beta male. Best to just submit to him
wtf, this is the third dog I have met out and about that I later learn has an instagram account. whats the point, and what kind of unhinged weirdos follows dogs on instagram?
Since getting a dog, I understand dog people less and less
This is it:
This is pure gatekeeping. You can keep any animal as long as you do the research first.
Can your gf keep the hold of the leash when the dog yanks? no? don't get the fucking dog.
Shitbulls, but make it weeb.
what part of "a woman wants it based on a movie" do you not understand?
>hi guys got my first snake today, I did plenty of research so nothing will go wrong
Tell her to get something else, but if that doesn't work then tell her to adopt an older one - 6+ years old at least. And to do a dog handling course before she even thinks about it. Also if it's a male make sure it's neutered ASAP.
Incredibly bad idea but at least they're aesthetic dogs unlike shitbulls.
>large stubborn dog with high prey drive that is aggressive towards strangers unless very well socialized and trained
completely out of her league and this thing would end up mauling someone if a beginner gets it because it's le hecking movie doggo