LFS has a beautiful big mantis shrimp in stock with her eggs. Want to set up a new tank for her.

LFS has a beautiful big mantis shrimp in stock with her eggs. Want to set up a new tank for her. Should I go with a 13.5 fluval evo with the protein skimmer or a 20 gal long?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    why would you even want to get a mantis shrimp in a tank? that thing can shatter it as easily as we tear a piece of paper whenever it feels like

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is a myth
      find one (1) instance of this actually happening

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both are too small
    It's not going to survive in a new tank anyways

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would seed it with wet live rock and wet live sand
      How big then?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I would seed it with wet live rock and wet live sand
        Kek

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          What’s wrong with that

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            nothing's wrong with it
            post pics
            we'll start a pool on how long the shrimp will survive.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              .. oh come on what the frick then? I’ve done it before with no problem and the animals live fine. What’s wrong with it, biologically speaking?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                nothing's wrong with it. do it. post pics. tell us how it goes.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not going to do it now because clearly you’re implying something’s wrong with it and you’re just being cheeky and not telling me. Why would you let me kill a beautiful animal and waste 150$ what is wrong with seeding a tank w wet rock

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would you let me kill a beautiful animal and waste 150$
                that's how you learn

                that's how we all learned.

                then someday you will meet some noob making the same mistakes you made a hundred times before you finally learned, and you might get a chuckle at watching them learn things the hard way too. Because they remind you of how you used to be. Or just because it's funny when people embark on an endeavor they lack the knowledge and temperament to accomplish. Either way, the world will keep on spinning. And mantis shrimp aren't endangered. Neither are dollars, nor newbie aquarists willing to waste either.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                How is what I am doing wrong though, I’ve done it before with other animals that are less hardy and more sensitive than peawiener mantis shrimps and they have been healthy and are still alive after years.

                your biggest problem is that all your nitrifying bacteria are photophobes, so they live in all the parts of the sand and rock that never get any light. Moving the sand and rock kills most of them. So the tank has to cycle almost from scratch with your shrimp in it.

                the next problem is that water doesn't naturally circulate into either the rock or the sand to be denitrified. That circulation is accomplished by a bunch of little critters moving around, and those critters will also mostly die off when you move the sand and rock.

                so even with live sand and rock you're still pretty much cycling the tank from scratch with a shrimp in it. Which won't matter if you change water every day or two, but you're not going to do that because you're doing this without planning and in the laziest way possible.

                probably the biggest problem is if you don't know all this, you're probably also fricking up in other, even bigger ways. Overfeeding or feeding the wrong diet or something. Which combined with a cycling tank should kill the animal no matter how many water changes you do, especially in a tiny tank.

                also no not all the nitrifying bacteria is in the sand people do just fine with FOWLR tanks

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                you can't read.
                and you can't seem to understand that ratings of more or less hardy are averages and estimates, and individual animals don't necessarily follow them
                they're also subjective and dependent on you, the aquarist.

                you don't seem smart enough to pull this project off, and if you do succeed it will be by luck rather than knowledge. Like I said, do it. Let us know how you do. Maybe you'll get lucky and you can brag about how smart you are and I can have a giggle knowing your luck will run out over time.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta but why are you being such a massive c**t anon? Im guessing you dont even have the slightest clue if this is a good idea or not, or else I dont see why you wouldn't just clearly point out why you think OPs plan is bad. Either way, im guessing you are a pretty lonely individual, im guessing not a lot of people like you considering your insufferable pedantry and transparent uncharismatic narcissism

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                your biggest problem is that all your nitrifying bacteria are photophobes, so they live in all the parts of the sand and rock that never get any light. Moving the sand and rock kills most of them. So the tank has to cycle almost from scratch with your shrimp in it.

                the next problem is that water doesn't naturally circulate into either the rock or the sand to be denitrified. That circulation is accomplished by a bunch of little critters moving around, and those critters will also mostly die off when you move the sand and rock.

                so even with live sand and rock you're still pretty much cycling the tank from scratch with a shrimp in it. Which won't matter if you change water every day or two, but you're not going to do that because you're doing this without planning and in the laziest way possible.

                probably the biggest problem is if you don't know all this, you're probably also fricking up in other, even bigger ways. Overfeeding or feeding the wrong diet or something. Which combined with a cycling tank should kill the animal no matter how many water changes you do, especially in a tiny tank.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fine, I’ll buy it right now and let them hold onto it until I get everything working

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why has it worked every other time I’ve done it then

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >all animals have the same tolerance to pollution
                gosh, I wonder if that's true?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      BRS literally says 10 gallons and up

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would seed it with wet live rock and wet live sand
      How big then?

      BRS literally says 10 gallons and up

      Inverts aren't fish. The shrimp will mostly stay in a cave (which, if you don't provide one, they will make), and come out just to hunt. They don't require nearly as much space as a fish. That said, some species can get quite long and having a shrimp that's like half the length of the tank means half the length is going to be a cave and he's going to have a hard time even turning around. So yes,

      20 gal long then?

      20G long. Preferably acrylic as it is better absorbing shock but it's pretty rare for them to beat up glass as it takes quite a bit of energy and there's no reason for them to do it outside of feeding or making a cave.

      As for a new tank vs. established, dunno about that. I haven't had to setup a tank from a sterile start in years. Some of my live rock is more than a decade old at this point.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    *punches your glass so hard it breaks*

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Full grown, I think the mantis shrimp would look pretty silly in a 13.5 fluval.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      20 gal long then?

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