LFS has a beautiful big mantis shrimp in stock with her eggs. Want to set up a new tank for her. Should I go with a 13.5 fluval evo with the protein skimmer or a 20 gal long?
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LFS has a beautiful big mantis shrimp in stock with her eggs. Want to set up a new tank for her.
why would you even want to get a mantis shrimp in a tank? that thing can shatter it as easily as we tear a piece of paper whenever it feels like
this is a myth
find one (1) instance of this actually happening
Both are too small
It's not going to survive in a new tank anyways
I would seed it with wet live rock and wet live sand
How big then?
>I would seed it with wet live rock and wet live sand
Kek
What’s wrong with that
nothing's wrong with it
post pics
we'll start a pool on how long the shrimp will survive.
.. oh come on what the frick then? I’ve done it before with no problem and the animals live fine. What’s wrong with it, biologically speaking?
nothing's wrong with it. do it. post pics. tell us how it goes.
I’m not going to do it now because clearly you’re implying something’s wrong with it and you’re just being cheeky and not telling me. Why would you let me kill a beautiful animal and waste 150$ what is wrong with seeding a tank w wet rock
>Why would you let me kill a beautiful animal and waste 150$
that's how you learn
that's how we all learned.
then someday you will meet some noob making the same mistakes you made a hundred times before you finally learned, and you might get a chuckle at watching them learn things the hard way too. Because they remind you of how you used to be. Or just because it's funny when people embark on an endeavor they lack the knowledge and temperament to accomplish. Either way, the world will keep on spinning. And mantis shrimp aren't endangered. Neither are dollars, nor newbie aquarists willing to waste either.
How is what I am doing wrong though, I’ve done it before with other animals that are less hardy and more sensitive than peawiener mantis shrimps and they have been healthy and are still alive after years.
also no not all the nitrifying bacteria is in the sand people do just fine with FOWLR tanks
you can't read.
and you can't seem to understand that ratings of more or less hardy are averages and estimates, and individual animals don't necessarily follow them
they're also subjective and dependent on you, the aquarist.
you don't seem smart enough to pull this project off, and if you do succeed it will be by luck rather than knowledge. Like I said, do it. Let us know how you do. Maybe you'll get lucky and you can brag about how smart you are and I can have a giggle knowing your luck will run out over time.
Cope
nta but why are you being such a massive c**t anon? Im guessing you dont even have the slightest clue if this is a good idea or not, or else I dont see why you wouldn't just clearly point out why you think OPs plan is bad. Either way, im guessing you are a pretty lonely individual, im guessing not a lot of people like you considering your insufferable pedantry and transparent uncharismatic narcissism
your biggest problem is that all your nitrifying bacteria are photophobes, so they live in all the parts of the sand and rock that never get any light. Moving the sand and rock kills most of them. So the tank has to cycle almost from scratch with your shrimp in it.
the next problem is that water doesn't naturally circulate into either the rock or the sand to be denitrified. That circulation is accomplished by a bunch of little critters moving around, and those critters will also mostly die off when you move the sand and rock.
so even with live sand and rock you're still pretty much cycling the tank from scratch with a shrimp in it. Which won't matter if you change water every day or two, but you're not going to do that because you're doing this without planning and in the laziest way possible.
probably the biggest problem is if you don't know all this, you're probably also fricking up in other, even bigger ways. Overfeeding or feeding the wrong diet or something. Which combined with a cycling tank should kill the animal no matter how many water changes you do, especially in a tiny tank.
Fine, I’ll buy it right now and let them hold onto it until I get everything working
Why has it worked every other time I’ve done it then
>all animals have the same tolerance to pollution
gosh, I wonder if that's true?
BRS literally says 10 gallons and up
Inverts aren't fish. The shrimp will mostly stay in a cave (which, if you don't provide one, they will make), and come out just to hunt. They don't require nearly as much space as a fish. That said, some species can get quite long and having a shrimp that's like half the length of the tank means half the length is going to be a cave and he's going to have a hard time even turning around. So yes,
20G long. Preferably acrylic as it is better absorbing shock but it's pretty rare for them to beat up glass as it takes quite a bit of energy and there's no reason for them to do it outside of feeding or making a cave.
As for a new tank vs. established, dunno about that. I haven't had to setup a tank from a sterile start in years. Some of my live rock is more than a decade old at this point.
*punches your glass so hard it breaks*
Full grown, I think the mantis shrimp would look pretty silly in a 13.5 fluval.
20 gal long then?