Invasive species can't stop winning.

Invasive species can't stop winning.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Call me in five years where liberals will begin reintroducing wolves into New York to make the economy 'healthier'. Call me when they call you racist and a white supremacist for criticizing this

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >couple of rats cross the sea aboard some random raft of torn-off tree branches
    >isn't it amazing how animals can spread across the world?
    >couple of rats cross the sea aboard some big raft built by bipedal monkees
    >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH HECKING INVASIVE SPECIES WE GOTTA SAVE THEM LE WHOLESOME NATIVE HECKERINOS FROM BEING OUTCOMPETED!!!!1!!!
    We should introduce more species across the world. For example, the American waterways really could use Wels catfish in them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, we have flathheads and alligator gars
      alligator gars are the cooler species more places should have them, and alligators snapping turtles

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Euro wels catfish are federally banned but the other wels species are still legal. Chinese wels is fairly common and gets decently large (5 ft).

      https://i.imgur.com/FtGdoaH.jpg

      no, we have flathheads and alligator gars
      alligator gars are the cooler species more places should have them, and alligators snapping turtles

      Alligator gars used to range all the way up to Lake Michigan and there are even isolated reports from places like New Jersey, so it's a case like the leopards where we'll never know their original true range.
      Frick bowfishermen for spreading the idea of "rough fish = le bad" and killing them everywhere.

      On a related note, I've been researching the spread of northern snakeheads and they're being found farther and farther inland. I'm assuming there's several populations in lakes we either don't know about or the fishermen keep their mouth shut.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >leopards
        Sorry, meant to say jaguar. There's evidence of them being in Ohio when Europeans first came to America.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its pretty easy to figure out where their natural range is because theyre a fish and the mississippi watershed is fricking massive, its not like a mudskipper and leave whenever it wants

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite invasive is knotweed. It's fun to cut and propagate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mfw bamboo takes too long to establish

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    About as legit as redefining acts of rape as "sexual emergencies" and then bragging about the rape statistics going down.

    And yes of course that actually happened and of course it was a crossflag country.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Rewilding doesn't care if its native or not. There is basically no difference between European wood bison and American bison. If all white tailed deer were magically replaced by European roe deer the ecosystem would still be the same.
    We should put Siberian tigers in Alaska and Canada.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    feral pigs feral pigs let me come in

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOO ECOSYSTEMS ARE MEANT TO BE THE SAME FOREVER NOTHING SHOULD CHANGE, CHANGE IS BAD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you think like this unfortunately you may be mentally deficient and I recommend talking to your doctor.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ecosystems are not just throwing a bunch of random shit together because of human chaos. That's not what an ecosystem is.

      >It's just to feel superior
      it's to cull the incredibly overpopulated invasive species you mouth-breather. Seriously, have you not been listening this whole thread when people talk about these things like they're grey goo? They'll literally eat all of north america alive if left unchecked.

      Then why do c**ters keep introducing them?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/FNivQxJ.jpg

        >They'll literally eat all of north america alive if left unchecked
        Funny, that's exactly what they also said about Asian carp, lanternflies, snakeheads, ash borers, Burmese pythons, etc etc etc.
        Pigs have been here since the Spanish brought them. We used to have giant peccaries up in the north during the Ice Age. Why are they suddenly just a problem now? Maybe it has to do with wolves and cougars being extirpated from their former range...
        [...]
        Rewilding is based, we need more whimsy in nature. Who gives a shit if its native or not, I don't want to live in a place where our largest "megafauna" are raccoons.

        frick off paleoschizo

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read this and Emma Marris, Chris Thomas and Ken Thompson

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "People" that think "rewilding" means just introducing a bunch of invasive species are morons and will be executed.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Accuses others of mental illness
    >Has a mental breakdown
    pottery

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >destroys crops
    PIGS
    >up roots new tree growth
    ARE
    >gores and eats farm animals and pets
    GOOD
    >drives local small animals to extinction by digging up their young or eating the eggs of birds the nest on the ground
    FOR
    >makes the top soil so loose that landslides/mudslides are more likely
    THE
    >fouls up water sources
    ECOSYSTEM!
    >goes out of the way to free their domestic cousins to breed with them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pigs are great for the earth not so much for the other animals that live around them. the land they tear up is going to have a lot new growth that never had a chance beforehand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If you tear up all the plants, they win!

        >Domestic farm animals are not wild species
        species don't have to be wild to be distinct species, dude. What an idiot. Frick you.

        This is utter homosexual talk. Are you a europoor?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wild boars definitely are, if nothing else because they outcompete the native peccaries.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come invasive species always mog the shit out of local species?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      adaptive generalists > hyperspecialists

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because usually we fricked over the ecosystem first. For example:
      >spaniards introduce horses to the americas
      >everything is fine
      >buffalo get wiped out
      >wolves and cougars and leopards get wiped out
      >horses adjust their population because of less competitors and predators

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're not an invasive species if they die out in the new environment, we only see the ones that thrived.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This

      adaptive generalists > hyperspecialists

      Sheer hardiness and a primal desire and capability/means to spread wherever possible is pretty potent against organisms who won’t/can’t

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are superior. It is evolution taking shape, We should not resist but instead let matters take course.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would be if the invasive species weren't introduced by humans and arent demolishing environments we need/think are cool and don't want to go.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spoilers: they're not.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the reasoning? I'm not against invasive species but I can't think of anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      diversity is strength

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/4445182-invasive-animals-ecosystems-study/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh this is very moronic

        archive that shit homie https://archive.is/3ow6s

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Modern "scientists" are so fricking weimarian and moronic it's truly unbelievable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >weimarian
            Perfect description.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anyone else just glaze over when an article starts "doing this shit" ten times per sentence?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All animals have "checks" put in place of their growth in their native ecosystems. These checks are not present in other ecosystems, even if said animal fills the niche of another animal that was at one point present, but has since been displaced by humans (an extremely rare occurrence in the first place).
          The issues are more obvious, where an ecosystem is not prepared to have a certain niche filled, or if there is already an animal present that fills a niche.
          I'm not one of those homosexuals who distrusts scientists as a rule, but frick me if I don't at least see where they're coming from sometimes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No no anon but you see, horses are not actually invasive to North America because they actually were ONCE native to North America, so they're just re-filling that niche!!
            >Ok then why are they currently single-hoofedly causing an ecological disaster-
            SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPPPPP

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >currently single-hoofedly causing an ecological disaster
              Proof?

              There has been an explicit push to stop using the term "invasive species" because the way it gets described sounds too much like criticism of mass immigration. It's not much of a stretch to imagine they're still doing it. Here's two opinion pieces from shitlib tabloids where they do exactly that, and make no attempt whatsoever to downplay the ideological motivations:
              https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/22796160/invasive-species-climate-change-range-shifting
              https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/16/biodiversity-and-the-use-of-nativist-language

              Their "muh nativism" rhetoric is moronic but there is a difference between an invasive and an introduced species. It's unfair to put a tiny gecko that lives in a single suburb in the same category with something like jap knotweed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Proof? https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/69/7/558/5519497
                https://www.jstor.org/stable/41717041?casa_token=0cWfEr0_bbAAAAAA%3AoVMoYahbzKzvVOZnP6R9buC0E6gaaNZf9pGa9mnEyQEP9eDfBqvobG3nVFQ0bPj3SroYvVGxA6-Hr71xA3Xgu8JKIkhZOPVg7jO7kvtCs5aOmqi8Qw
                These are relatively small studies, but the visual impact of feral horses on the landscape noted by ranchers and rangers who work the ranges the horses roam is noticeable: Mustangs are demolishing the US in places where their populations are not controlled.
                This wouldn't be much of an issue if their populations were properly controlled, but CERTAIN morons continue to lobby against the control of feral horse populations, and they have a surprising amount of sway.
                I don't live in the US, and as much as I'd rather not see the natural beauty of the US be slowly demolished ala Yellowstone when the wolves were all killed, at this point I honestly say let them have their way. Let them see the natural ranges become wastelands as the mustang population explodes without human intervention. I think it'll be hilarious to see them slowly realise their mistake for their precious little ponies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the problem isn't the presence of the horses, it's that they're overpopulated. White tailed deer are also overpopulated in parts of the US but they get a pass just because they're native?

                Clearly the answer is to reintroduce wolves and other predators.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >White tailed deer are also overpopulated
                This is not real. It's never been real. It's never going to be real. It is literally propaganda hunters made up to justify their own existence and control over state and federal agencies. Even the ONE time that hunters think they "proved" that this was true, wasn't even Whitetail Deer, it didn't happen the way they claimed and the "solution" was worse than the cure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >basic ecology says when a herbivore doesnt have a predator their population increases
                >humans displaced wolves and other predators and created a favorable suburban environment for deer to survive, so deer increased in population
                >"ITS NOT REAL. ITS NEVER BEEN REAL. ITS NEVER GOING TO BE REAL" (pic related, you)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Try reading instead of listening to hunter mouthpieces, honey.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've seen it happen in my area first hand. Deer don't like the taste of foreign plants so they eat everything else, and then the stiltgrass and barberry and other shitty Asian weeds take over. But studies show that native plants are able to outcompete these weeds if they're allowed to grow, so deer are fricking things up by overbrowsing everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you didn't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep denying reality

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OMG THIS IS DEBUSTATE! HOW COULD DEER DO THIS?!?!

                Lemme guess, a second growth forest you think is "wilderness" between corn fields?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Comparing mammoths to deer lmao

                This moron is doubtlessly a paleotard and the vegan that posts garden of eden nonsense just based on moronation levels

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Listening to hunters and their lies
                Nope. We don't do that here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Carnivores are absolutely necessary for a properly functioning ecosystem. At least one herbivore species will always specialize in low grazing and browsing and develop a reproductive rate that allows them to surpass the rate at which those plants replenish. Carnivores are nature's immune system, designed to curb the disease of herbivory (nature prefers plants to animals) and perform other basic functions like distributing the biomass of corpses over a wider area to fertilize more plants.

                Humans and dogs are obligate meat eaters. We need it to survive in natural circumstances. Desperately trying to cobble together the missing nutrients with domesticated GMO hyper-crops shipped from another hemisphere and factory-produced supplements is not natural circumstances - nor does it address all of your nutrient deficiencies - nor is it the best possible course of action. Livestock are excellent at recycling all the plant material we can't even digest into delicious meat and eggs.

                Humans did not evolve to subsist entirely on fatty prime cuts of pen-raised wagyu cows either. Eating nothing but fatty and processed red meats is bad for you. We evolved to eat lean, gamey meats, fish, organs, eggs, and bone barrow. We also did not evolve to subsist on sugar bomb domesticated produce and instead are meant to eat a wide variety of nutrient dense wild berries.

                Actually, hunter propaganda is that whitetail populations are threatened when they are returned to carrying capacity, so they need to be issued wolf tags ASAP. There is nothing "the hunting lobby" hates more than ecological balance between predators and prey. Especially because it reveals the ecological damage done by their friends in the ranching and lumber lobbies. Caribou can only be threatened by wolves if their habitat is destroyed so they're unable to escape and hide from predators, for example, but canada blames wolves instead of loggers and ranchers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Carnivores are absolutely necessary for a properly functioning ecosystem.
                No they're not. I'm an ecologist and I tell you flat out you don't know shit about ecology. Herbivores are FAR more important to plants than carnivores killing herbivores are. If you weren't a demented little moron goregay child, you'd know that Nature isn't just blood everywhere 24/7. Most carnivores are little more than parasites on the backs of the natural world. The largest herbivores never even have predators for the most part.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Actually, hunter propaganda is that whitetail populations are threatened when they are returned to carrying capacity
                No it isn't, you lying little glowBlack person.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Every ecological problem in american history is because of some lobbying group. Mostly hunters and ranchers, but sometimes other groups like moronic horsegirls.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >horses
                >invasive species

                I know I can't expect much from paranoid rightoids, but really, you're using horses in america as your example of invasive species?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They're not invasive they're just a foreign animal that is destructive and uncontrolled
                The original american horse was smaller and easier prey for wolves than the domesticated hyper-horses.

                The current state of american horses is like someone introduced kangal-wolf mixes to mexico to replace mexican wolves, and then made it totally illegal to kill them as they overpopulated off sheep and stray pets. Or like saying all the stray dogs in india are the same as the basically-gone native indian wolf and it should be illegal to cull them because muh heckin puppers.

                The american pet lobby needs to fricking burn.

                Four true statements:
                Wild horses are pests and need to be selectively culled to reduce their size and speed back to natural levels and introduced to a resident population of decently large wolves. If wolves are off the table, so are wild horses. The ecosystem does not function without predator control.
                Stray dogs are pests and need to be exterminated outright. Predator overpopulation is as bad as their absence.
                Feral cats are pests and need to be exterminated outright. See above.
                It is the breed, all the owner did was fail to recognize that it is the breed and put it down in the name of public safety.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The original american horse was smaller
                as was the original eurasian horse. Is the horse invasive in eurasia as well?
                the horse is perfectly suitable to the north american ecosystem, the only issues it has are because of the removal of predators

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the only issues it has are because of the removal of predators
                Modern-day timber wolves wouldn't do well in the environment that mustangs thrive in (semi-arid to arid grassland and desert). It is very unlikely that, even if you do introduce them to that environment, they would thrive enough to control the mustang population in areas that they NEED controlling. Feral horses need culling, if not an outright extermination. They have no place in the US anymore.
                >as was the original eurasian horse. Is the horse invasive in eurasia as well?
                There are no feral populations of horses in Eurasia where their population is not explicitly and strictly controlled.
                >Camargue horses in France
                Get culled
                >Dartmoor ponies in England
                Get culled
                Any other population of wild equid in eurasia are native, such as Przewalskiis and Onagers, and therefore do fine in that environment.
                You have no argument. Mustangs do not belong in the North American wilderness. If they absolutely HAVE to stay, either because horsegirls are delusional or (you) are just a fricking moron, then they REQUIRE harsh culling to ensure they don't demolish shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hate to break this to you, m8, but farm animals don't have natural ranges. This is what a wild horse actually looks like. You're basically arguing for packs of poodles to roam the Canadian taiga.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Black person przewalski's wild horse isn't even the same species, disingenuous little shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Equus ferus przewalskii (Przewalskiis' horse)
                >Equus ferus caballus (Domestic horse)
                You're legitimately mentally moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ferus caballus (Domestic horse)
                You mean Equus caballus homosexual

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't, the proper name is E. ferus caballus. You have schizophrenia.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no Equus caballus. Domestic farm animals are not wild species. They are human created abominations. They don't have native ranges. They don't belong in Nature at all. That's why it pisses me off whenever I see those stupid party-colored wolves in Canada. Those literally come from domestically bred wolf-dogs selectively bred for different colored coats. That's why they don't look anything like wild wolves.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Domestic farm animals are not wild species
                species don't have to be wild to be distinct species, dude. What an idiot. Frick you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not a scientist. I am. I study Late Pleistocene megafauna. You once again don't know what the frick you're talking about.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_horse#Evolutionary_history_and_taxonomy
                >Studies using ancient DNA, as well as DNA of recent individuals, suggest the presence of two equine species in Late Pleistocene North America, a caballine species, suggested to be conspecific with the wild horse,[29][30] and Haringtonhippus francisci, the "New World stilt-legged horse"; the latter has been taxonomically assigned to various names, and appears to be outside the grouping containing all extant equines.

                In South America there was a third species:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippidion

                The Late Pleistocene range of the wild horse is one of the strongest proofs for Overkill - that humans caused these extinctions because it was once native from Ireland to Tierra del Fuego, inhabiting everything from arctic tundra to tropical savanna. An animal like that with a range that big does not merely go extinct due to very minor climate change. When the so-called Przewalski's horse was "first" discovered (it's actually the true wild form of all modern horses, including the Tarpan, which is not a wild horse but a domesticated pony breed) it was being hunted to extinction. It was only saved by captive breeding programs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/YIyXiFw.png

                I don't, the proper name is E. ferus caballus. You have schizophrenia.

                so is this paleoschizo too?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The post with the map is me. The other post is correct, but not mine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's a thread about some paranoid schizo losing his mind about studies suggesting that non-native species aren't automatically bad for the ecosystem and in some cases can be beneficial because he believes it's a conspiracy to bring in immigrants.
                If it's not paleoschizo is someone just like him.
                the sad truth is that there is more than one schizo on this board, and people like him vote and influence the choices that affect all of us

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Beneficial to what? If you're already ignoring nativity then what is your basis for judgment about what is good for an ecosystem or not? Species aren't interchangeable like spare parts. This subversive, contrarian subjective view of Nature and science has outstayed its welcome.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kinda sounds like you’re just arguing from emotion because the implications attack your own beliefs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lots of people have this belief because it's true and obvious once you know how to read the propaganda. I couldn't pick "Paleoschizo" out. I can, however, pick you out of a crowd, with you aggressive NPC behavior and derailing threads with your constant raving about some alleged "Paleoschizo" who lives in your head rent-free. You're in the minority here, and you're ignorant to boot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/gmnCmBG.jpg

                Only idiots ever believed that and it's been WELL established for years now that they're the same species. And here's what horses in Europe used to look like before humans domesticated them. Look familiar? The Tarpan, as I already said isn't a valid taxon as it's just a pony breed and the only illustration and photograph of one clearly prove this. The CORRECT name of the "Przewalski's" (Wild) Horse is just Equus ferus ferus. The Tarpan is Equus ferus caballus, but horsegirls (particularly Europoors) get really offended by this, so that's why it took decades to even work out the true genetics.

                [...]
                You ought to have seen the truly fricking idiotic system the Eurogays had worked out for where they thought horses came from and how many species there were. It was utter nonsense.

                so przewalskis horses are just wild regular horses? don't they have different numbers of chromosomes? surely they've got to be at least different subspecies right?
                t. I don't actually know anything about this stuff just curious

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Przewalskiis are Equus ferus przewalzkii. Domestic horses are Equus ferus caballus. A przewalzkii and a domestic horse could fug and have fertile babies, like a wolf and a dog.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only idiots ever believed that and it's been WELL established for years now that they're the same species. And here's what horses in Europe used to look like before humans domesticated them. Look familiar? The Tarpan, as I already said isn't a valid taxon as it's just a pony breed and the only illustration and photograph of one clearly prove this. The CORRECT name of the "Przewalski's" (Wild) Horse is just Equus ferus ferus. The Tarpan is Equus ferus caballus, but horsegirls (particularly Europoors) get really offended by this, so that's why it took decades to even work out the true genetics.

                >Equus ferus przewalskii (Przewalskiis' horse)
                >Equus ferus caballus (Domestic horse)
                You're legitimately mentally moronic.

                You ought to have seen the truly fricking idiotic system the Eurogays had worked out for where they thought horses came from and how many species there were. It was utter nonsense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You ought to have seen the truly fricking idiotic system the Eurogays had worked out for where they thought horses came from and how many species there were. It was utter nonsense.
                I did an 8,000 word essay on the early-mid Pleistocene Equidae distribution and how many species/subspecies it was thought there were until they were synonymised relatively recently during my undergraduate degree.
                I've seen some shit, anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I will probably always hate Eric Scott for his fricking idiocy. He is almost single-handedly why I coined the term "Nidosense". It comes from the root for "niche sense", meaning the ability to use your basic common sense to realize there's no way in fricking hell there were 40 fricking species of horses in Late Pleistocene North America. Only a complete moron who is terrible at ecology would even think that's possible. This is one of the reasons I will NEVER stop my crusade against cladist morons. That entire group of modern soientist idiots views science as a career path, not an honorable endeavor, so splitting species as much as humanly possible is their only goal because then they get to name them after all their buddies and sometimes family members! Isn't that great? It also fricks taxonomy all to hell. The worst part is, a lot of these "species" were named after a single tooth or broken mandible. It's absurd. And biologists haven't stopped doing it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >find Pleistocene Equidae molar
                >the grinding surface is different from this other molar
                >different species time
                This was my life for months.......

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't study Late Pleistocene megafauna so much anymore. Now I'm into Dinosaurs because the age of mammals was a mistake that needs to be corrected. But I know from studying other taxonomic groups how FRICKING GRUELING comparing all the fake bullshit names of clearly the same animal can be and when you tell people these are clearly the same them acting like you're insane for 30 years then just all calmly agreeing you were right one day like it was nothing. This is one of the things I fricking hate most about soientists.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AWW LAWD HE COMIN

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I always wondered why these cave paintings, while also being skillfully done, were also so plump looking. Did they come from the painter's personal tastes or their painterly trends at the time?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, if prezwalskis are any indication of how horses ancestors looked, these guys were pretty chonky, they couldve just been painting them accurately

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >single-hoofedly
              High effort post

              There has been an explicit push to stop using the term "invasive species" because the way it gets described sounds too much like criticism of mass immigration. It's not much of a stretch to imagine they're still doing it. Here's two opinion pieces from shitlib tabloids where they do exactly that, and make no attempt whatsoever to downplay the ideological motivations:
              https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/22796160/invasive-species-climate-change-range-shifting
              https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/16/biodiversity-and-the-use-of-nativist-language

              Yeah a lot of them don’t even try to hide this shit, very shameless but what can you expect from people so comfortable in unabashedly posting their propaganda everywhere

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not going to bother fact checking this article or even this study because they aren't worth the effort, but this is propaganda if ever it existed.
          >no no no, you don't understand, those feral boars that are known across the world for being destructive are actually GOOD for our ecosystem somehow, Idk, anyway let hunters keep releasing boars 🙂

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>no no no, you don't understand, those feral boars that are known across the world for being destructive are actually GOOD for our ecosystem somehow, Idk, anyway let hunters keep releasing boars 🙂
            This kek. Ask literally anyone who lives marginally rurally about the pigs have them estimate the cost of everything the pigs have gotten to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>no no no, you don't understand, those feral boars that are known across the world for being destructive are actually GOOD for our ecosystem somehow, Idk, anyway let hunters keep releasing boars 🙂
            This kek. Ask literally anyone who lives marginally rurally about the pigs have them estimate the cost of everything the pigs have gotten to.

            >create artificial waterways and irrigation systems to keep a shitty monoculture of estrogenic crops alive in the desert
            >cry when pigs come destroy it
            Stay mad gays

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >estrogenic crops
              this so much this!!!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Enjoy having your based right wing homestead equally ruined, the pigs dgaf. They'll ruin literally anything and probably rape your wife too.

                >seething this hard because of a single word

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Enjoy having your based right wing homestead equally ruined, the pigs dgaf. They'll ruin literally anything and probably rape your wife too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm not going to bother fact checking this article or even this study
            of course you won't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Propaganda for what, you fricking idiot?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              letting brown people into white countries probably

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what kind of diseased mind can look at that story and make that connection

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The rightoid mind is a mystery to us all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There has been an explicit push to stop using the term "invasive species" because the way it gets described sounds too much like criticism of mass immigration. It's not much of a stretch to imagine they're still doing it. Here's two opinion pieces from shitlib tabloids where they do exactly that, and make no attempt whatsoever to downplay the ideological motivations:
                https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/22796160/invasive-species-climate-change-range-shifting
                https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/16/biodiversity-and-the-use-of-nativist-language

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              My guess is that its actually anti-2A propaganda, which might sound like a stretch until you consider that a popular way to deal with hogs is shoot them with AR-15s. Its probably a variety of reasons alonsode this as well, but I wouldnt put it past aparachiks of the regime.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lots of anti-2A people make explicit exemptions for hunting though, and a lot of pro-2A people look down upon "Fudds" who only care about hunting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Idk, anyway let hunters keep releasing boars 🙂
            Hunters... release boars? Every hunter I've ever met HATES boars.
            >They get rid of deer/black bear/catamounts/etc
            >they tear up the soil/trees
            >they eat all the forage
            >they destroy my/billy down the road's crops
            >they don't taste good
            >they breed like rabbits (to the point that I've heard "breed like wild hogs" in place of "breed like rabbits" before in normal unrelated speech)
            So... where would they do this?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they don’t taste good
              That’s a new one. According to everyone I’ve talked to they taste great when cooked prepared properly

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unneutered male boar meat tastes terrible.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well now I'm curious. How is it different from normal pork?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's a little cummy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                H...hot.
                Wait does that mean that every example of some c**ter shooting a huge male wild boar isn't even eating all that meat? It's just to feel superior because of their micropenis? Who would've thought.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's just to feel superior
                it's to cull the incredibly overpopulated invasive species you mouth-breather. Seriously, have you not been listening this whole thread when people talk about these things like they're grey goo? They'll literally eat all of north america alive if left unchecked.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They'll literally eat all of north america alive if left unchecked
                Funny, that's exactly what they also said about Asian carp, lanternflies, snakeheads, ash borers, Burmese pythons, etc etc etc.
                Pigs have been here since the Spanish brought them. We used to have giant peccaries up in the north during the Ice Age. Why are they suddenly just a problem now? Maybe it has to do with wolves and cougars being extirpated from their former range...

                "People" that think "rewilding" means just introducing a bunch of invasive species are morons and will be executed.

                Rewilding is based, we need more whimsy in nature. Who gives a shit if its native or not, I don't want to live in a place where our largest "megafauna" are raccoons.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We used to have giant peccaries up in the north during the Ice Age. Why are they suddenly just a problem now?
                Because peccaries and pigs are absolutely not equivalent

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>they breed like rabbits
              Funny story about that. They breed so quickly now in days because they heavily crossbred with domesticated pigs. Domesticated pigs are bred/designed to become sexually mature by 6 months.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                American feral hogs are a formerly domesticated species to begin with

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because they heavily crossbred with domesticated pigs.
                I was talking about feral hogs - in the states we often call them wild boars interchangeably. And they would be from domestic stock in that example.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Hunters... release boars?
              How the hell do you think they got free to begin with, dummy? Government agencies, the eternal slaves of c**ters, also released them a few times.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                escapes from farms, that's how 99% of them get out. I think you're a schizo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. That's how hogs would get out. Boars have to be imported, you brainlet.

                https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/operational-activities/feral-swine/sa-fs-history#:~:text=In%20the%201900s%2C%20the%20Eurasian,in%20at%20least%2035%20states.
                > In the 1900s, the Eurasian or Russian wild boar was introduced into parts of the United States for the purpose of sport hunting.

                More hunter lies. Hell, this is even a government agency saying it, and they're just mouthpieces of hunters and farmers LOL

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It always makes me laugh when I tell people that the pathetic *men* who go and shoot gamebirds on game reserves pay a breeder for the pheasants and have someone release them into the reserve especially for *men* to shoot.
                On one hand if these *men* have such small penises and such low testosterone that they absolutely HAVE to go and shoot something, this is objectively the most environmentally-friendly way of doing it.
                On the other, it's so pathetic that it's funny.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hogzilla and the other giant pigs like it are all intentionally released after being grown to unnatural sizes in a captive setting

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >rewilding, the reintroduction of wild animals into ecosystems where humans had eradicated them
          Too bad they aren’t being reintroduced since they never lived in those ecosystems in the first place and were never wiped out by humans. That’s unbelievably moronic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Truly, diversity doth be our strength. "Invasive" and "native" are racist dogwhistles. Marx bless. *Cuts own wiener off.*

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so true xister

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is just propaganda so the govt can avoid spending money to eradicate them. They don't give a shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's also cope to make up for the fact that they're also responsible for releasing them so hunters can hunt them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh interesting. Makes sense too, especially for large animals

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >im not against invasives
      You should be

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They get a pass because Monsanto can't make money from their death.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more food for me 🙂

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, and predators also get another food source. Everyone wins.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >eating wild animals
      enjoy your diseases, parasites, and prions

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah buddy there’s this new wild thing called cooking and cleaning game might seem kinda crazy over there in the Neolithic I guess

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cooking doesn't eliminate bacterial and parasitic spores, and cleaning microscopic organisms is impossible.
          Enjoy your tapeworm, bloodmouth.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not him but that is literally - factually -what cooking meat does dude
            tapeworms in particular are also killed by high temperatures

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes, however, no
              Most food poisinoning bacteria won't multiply below -2c and above 55c and it is best to store food below 5c and above 63c, and bringing food to a core temperature of at least 75c will kill most harmful bactertia
              The issue is that a number of bacteria can produce toxins which then cause food poisoning if kept above 5c and below 55c
              Clostridium perfringens, Bacillus cereus, and Clostridium botulinum can all survive temperatures above 100c for hours, and then when brought back down to 5c to 55c they start producing the toxins again

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats why you cook things and use ice

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Clostridium perfringens, Bacillus cereus, and Clostridium botulinum can all survive temperatures above 100c for hours, and then when brought back down to 5c to 55c they start producing the toxins again
                they start producing the toxins *in anaerobic environments*
                which is why if you can something you have to do what's called a botulinum cook which does kill them
                you're not going to get botulism from something that has never been sealed

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Weak bait.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon do you eat your meat raw?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't cook his food
        Are you some kind of carnivore ketolard?

        Cooking doesn't eliminate bacterial and parasitic spores, and cleaning microscopic organisms is impossible.
        Enjoy your tapeworm, bloodmouth.

        >t. doesn't know about using both pressure and temperature to cook food

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >diseases, parasites
        Like... cook them?
        >prions
        Nothing to do with being or not wild

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and you get to get a free donkey? hell yeah

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    coyotes are still million times more important

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