they aren't gone completely yet. they've confirmed five wild born ones now.
>North America lost it's speedy bois and yet the prey remains somehow
Reminder: >It is proposed that Miracinonyx is thought to be an instance of parallel evolution with the cheetah of the Acinonyx genus, but recent studies suggest that it was not specialized in chasing like the cheetah was since it retained retractable claws that would have crippled its ability to run fast. Instead, it was more closely related to the cougar, and at least M. trumani might have employed a hunting behavior that has no modern analogues, suggesting that it running fast like the cheetah is a common misconception. Additionally, the injuries that led to the death of a sub-adult Miracinonyx according to a 2022 research article by John-Paul Michael Hodnett et al suggest that Miracinonyx felids regularly engaged in fighting similar to the extant puma and most other cats and unlike the cheetah, where instances of cheetah individuals fighting each other are rare, further bringing doubts of convergence.
We lost nothing when we lost the passenger pigeon. Every town in America has a population of pigeons living in it, whatever nich passenger pigeons held has been filled. >but there arent as many rock pigeons as there were passenger pigeons!!!
thank christ too. can you imagine a flock of rock pigeons blotting out the sun? how much literal shit would rain from the sky? we're better off without them.
Unless you're intentionally going for some kind of minimalism challenge, this isn't a useful way to look at things. By that same logic we might as well just get rid of 90% of all animals in the world since their niche can be filled by other things. Heck, get rid of 90% of humans too since history shows that only a tiny handful ever do anything important and the rest just take up space.
>a flock of rock pigeons blotting out the sun?
This is humanity's fault though, we killed their predators and that's why its population exploded. It's not like they were always like this, shitting forests to death.
this and rocky mountain locusts sound unironically justified in their extinction, frick these little shits
wish we could do the same to mosquitos eventually
Don't forget the passenger pigeon too. There literally was tons of them yet we still managed to make them extinct because we just went "lol, there's so many, there's no way we'll run out".
How does one ensure the long term survival of a de-extinct species? Or are all of these fated to have a half dozen individuals living in zoos and being cloned over and over for our entertainment?
>How does one ensure the long term survival of a de-extinct species?
Did we revive any as of recent or are we "not there yet" at all? I'm not up to date with this topic.
>A project to clone the Pyrenean ibex resulted in one clone being born alive in July 2003, making it the first taxon to become "un-extinct", although the clone died several minutes after birth due to physical defects in its lungs.[4]
I think this is the closest anyone's got yet. The egg was frozen from a live individual prior to extinction and the embryos were implanted into a different subspecies of the same species that's still extant
so, not really there yet no
The plan would probably be to clone multiple genetically unique versions and once a breeding population on a ranch is established, reintroducing their off spring to gain a foot hold in the introduced region.
https://i.imgur.com/mzR029e.png
>How does one ensure the long term survival of a de-extinct species?
Did we revive any as of recent or are we "not there yet" at all? I'm not up to date with this topic.
There was a ferret that was cloned and used to supplement the gene pool of a dwindling species, but to my knowledge there hasn't been a from extinction rebirth yet.
Some groups are working on it though.
>There was a ferret that was cloned and used to supplement the gene pool of a dwindling species
Haven't heard of it, but sounds cool if it worked out in the end.
>A project to clone the Pyrenean ibex resulted in one clone being born alive in July 2003, making it the first taxon to become "un-extinct", although the clone died several minutes after birth due to physical defects in its lungs.[4]
I think this is the closest anyone's got yet. The egg was frozen from a live individual prior to extinction and the embryos were implanted into a different subspecies of the same species that's still extant
so, not really there yet no
>the clone died several minutes after birth due to physical defects in its lungs.[4]
I can see why those practices are considered unethical... Wonder if they just got unlucky or they were doomed to fail.
The Seller's sea cow was like if we found mammoths in the modern era and still hunted them into extinction, even worse given how accounts describe them as having strong bonds with each other. >Steller described the sea cow as being highly social (gregarious). It lived in small family groups and helped injured members, and was also apparently monogamous. Steller's sea cow may have exhibited parental care, and the young were kept at the front of the herd for protection against predators. Steller reported that as a female was being captured, a group of other sea cows attacked the hunting boat by ramming and rocking it, and after the hunt, her mate followed the boat to shore, even after the captured animal had died.
Passenger pigeon. It's extinction was a wild ride. Population went up to apocalyptic levels due to human activity and then people created such a birdcide, that they couldn't stop it when they realized it's going too far.
But if I could choose something outside from this list, I would definitely pick Kauaʻi ʻōʻō bird. You can listen to a song of one of the last members, or maybe literally the last one on YouTube. One of the saddest shit ever.
>Spix’s Macaw
Damn. I remember this. They even had a whole shitty movie about them to try to promote their growth (which I still look back fondly on). Sad.
>violent moron angloids kidnap and murder an animal for no reason other than "uhhh, it was uhhh.... bringing bad luck! yeah, we totally aren't just bloodthirsty psychopaths or anything, no no."
WW1 was a war between different imperialistic empires, the only positive of it was that it made the material conditions in Russia conducive to an overthrow of the monarchy, which most likely would have happened regardless of which side won.
>imperialistic empires
All empires are “imperialistic” >overthrow of the monarchy
And that overthrow led to the deaths of millions more in a nightmarish new creation, not very positive
the USA today and back then has a far higher prison population than the USSR ever had, the USSR also put an end to the glorified slavery of the former serfs and took the country from a backwater shithole to a geopolitical rival against the genocidal colonial empires of the west, this was with expansive welfare, gender equality, scientific innovation, and guaranteed housing and food I should mention.
>the USA today and higher prison population than the USSR ever had
that probably had something to do with the fact they just killed everyone
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provide me a citation for that which doesn't come from something derived from the black book of communism which labeled a stubbed toe as a "casualty under communism"
>don't be so eager to immediately believe CIA propaganda man
Ah yes, the "I lived in the US my entire life, but I'm an expert on the eastern block and communism" type of guy. Go leave
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/misc/ is literally the opposite of what this guy is
American Cheetah. that name alone is a good enough reason to bring it back
Reminder:
>It is proposed that Miracinonyx is thought to be an instance of parallel evolution with the cheetah of the Acinonyx genus, but recent studies suggest that it was not specialized in chasing like the cheetah was since it retained retractable claws that would have crippled its ability to run fast. Instead, it was more closely related to the cougar, and at least M. trumani might have employed a hunting behavior that has no modern analogues, suggesting that it running fast like the cheetah is a common misconception. Additionally, the injuries that led to the death of a sub-adult Miracinonyx according to a 2022 research article by John-Paul Michael Hodnett et al suggest that Miracinonyx felids regularly engaged in fighting similar to the extant puma and most other cats and unlike the cheetah, where instances of cheetah individuals fighting each other are rare, further bringing doubts of convergence.
From any animal in this picture, it would have to be the Aurochs. Mammoth is a close second
We lost nothing when we lost the passenger pigeon. Every town in America has a population of pigeons living in it, whatever nich passenger pigeons held has been filled.
>but there arent as many rock pigeons as there were passenger pigeons!!!
thank christ too. can you imagine a flock of rock pigeons blotting out the sun? how much literal shit would rain from the sky? we're better off without them.
Unless you're intentionally going for some kind of minimalism challenge, this isn't a useful way to look at things. By that same logic we might as well just get rid of 90% of all animals in the world since their niche can be filled by other things. Heck, get rid of 90% of humans too since history shows that only a tiny handful ever do anything important and the rest just take up space.
>a flock of rock pigeons blotting out the sun?
This is humanity's fault though, we killed their predators and that's why its population exploded. It's not like they were always like this, shitting forests to death.
this and rocky mountain locusts sound unironically justified in their extinction, frick these little shits
wish we could do the same to mosquitos eventually
Don't forget the passenger pigeon too. There literally was tons of them yet we still managed to make them extinct because we just went "lol, there's so many, there's no way we'll run out".
your mom's vegana lmao
...i really miss it 🙁
How does one ensure the long term survival of a de-extinct species? Or are all of these fated to have a half dozen individuals living in zoos and being cloned over and over for our entertainment?
Cool digits btw
>How does one ensure the long term survival of a de-extinct species?
Did we revive any as of recent or are we "not there yet" at all? I'm not up to date with this topic.
>A project to clone the Pyrenean ibex resulted in one clone being born alive in July 2003, making it the first taxon to become "un-extinct", although the clone died several minutes after birth due to physical defects in its lungs.[4]
I think this is the closest anyone's got yet. The egg was frozen from a live individual prior to extinction and the embryos were implanted into a different subspecies of the same species that's still extant
so, not really there yet no
The plan would probably be to clone multiple genetically unique versions and once a breeding population on a ranch is established, reintroducing their off spring to gain a foot hold in the introduced region.
There was a ferret that was cloned and used to supplement the gene pool of a dwindling species, but to my knowledge there hasn't been a from extinction rebirth yet.
Some groups are working on it though.
>There was a ferret that was cloned and used to supplement the gene pool of a dwindling species
Haven't heard of it, but sounds cool if it worked out in the end.
>the clone died several minutes after birth due to physical defects in its lungs.[4]
I can see why those practices are considered unethical... Wonder if they just got unlucky or they were doomed to fail.
Tasmanian Tiger or Sabertooth
neanderthals or giant marine reptiles
homosexual erectus. I've always wondered how smart those lads were.
Dinosaurs obviously.
>dodo
>ice age
huh??? they only died out a few hundred years ago...
we are still living in an ice age
then why separate it out...
In fact, the stellar's sea cow went extinct about 60 years AFTER the dodo went extinct.
The Seller's sea cow was like if we found mammoths in the modern era and still hunted them into extinction, even worse given how accounts describe them as having strong bonds with each other.
>Steller described the sea cow as being highly social (gregarious). It lived in small family groups and helped injured members, and was also apparently monogamous. Steller's sea cow may have exhibited parental care, and the young were kept at the front of the herd for protection against predators. Steller reported that as a female was being captured, a group of other sea cows attacked the hunting boat by ramming and rocking it, and after the hunt, her mate followed the boat to shore, even after the captured animal had died.
That fricking hurts.
Passenger pigeon. It's extinction was a wild ride. Population went up to apocalyptic levels due to human activity and then people created such a birdcide, that they couldn't stop it when they realized it's going too far.
But if I could choose something outside from this list, I would definitely pick Kauaʻi ʻōʻō bird. You can listen to a song of one of the last members, or maybe literally the last one on YouTube. One of the saddest shit ever.
>Spix’s Macaw
Damn. I remember this. They even had a whole shitty movie about them to try to promote their growth (which I still look back fondly on). Sad.
they aren't gone completely yet. they've confirmed five wild born ones now.
>North America lost it's speedy bois and yet the prey remains somehow
Never forget
>violent moron angloids kidnap and murder an animal for no reason other than "uhhh, it was uhhh.... bringing bad luck! yeah, we totally aren't just bloodthirsty psychopaths or anything, no no."
what sort of fricking psychopath goes out of their way to read wikipedia in a fricking serif font? how do you even change it?
Reminder that the bad guys won WWI.
WW1 was a war between different imperialistic empires, the only positive of it was that it made the material conditions in Russia conducive to an overthrow of the monarchy, which most likely would have happened regardless of which side won.
>imperialistic empires
All empires are “imperialistic”
>overthrow of the monarchy
And that overthrow led to the deaths of millions more in a nightmarish new creation, not very positive
don't be so eager to immediately believe CIA propaganda man
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274856099_The_1932_Harvest_and_the_Famine_of_1933
the USA today and back then has a far higher prison population than the USSR ever had, the USSR also put an end to the glorified slavery of the former serfs and took the country from a backwater shithole to a geopolitical rival against the genocidal colonial empires of the west, this was with expansive welfare, gender equality, scientific innovation, and guaranteed housing and food I should mention.
>the USA today and higher prison population than the USSR ever had
that probably had something to do with the fact they just killed everyone
provide me a citation for that which doesn't come from something derived from the black book of communism which labeled a stubbed toe as a "casualty under communism"
>don't be so eager to immediately believe CIA propaganda man
Ah yes, the "I lived in the US my entire life, but I'm an expert on the eastern block and communism" type of guy. Go leave
/misc/ is literally the opposite of what this guy is
leftypol exists
>putin enters the thread with one of his "history" lessons
frick off leave
ah yes, the miracles of communism, the exact reason why everyone was risking their lives on the daily to flee from it into West Germany
>All empires are “imperialistic”
uhhhh no shit sherlock; it's in the fricking etymology
next big revelation: all herbs are herbal! wow!
>agrees with anon
>shits on them anyway for no reason
why are you like this? did you father beat you too hard and give you brain damage?
Are you moronic? That’s his point
Yes, but they didn’t say that, just “/pol/“
>WWI was good only because communists won
kek, now face the wall
I also love dodos, but I like their close relative the rodrigues solitaire even more.
gars on very continent