the real matchup is 1 (one) average ant vs 1 (one) average coconut crab
the coconut crab will literally never be able to catch the ant, while the ant is free to parasitically eat from the crab until they both die of old age
A fertilized queen argentine ant if it manages to get away and make a nest somewhere. Once it makes a nest it is over, it will feed on the carcasses of the other competitors and expand the nest until it either run out of space or food. If it run out of food it likely will have won already. and about “muh armor” they can just enter body orifices and eat them from inside while still alive. I have seen ants do that. And yes, the queen ant went as one of the species in the battle royale, she reproduced after the battle started.
A fertilized queen argentine ant if it manages to get away and make a nest somewhere. Once it makes a nest it is over, it will feed on the carcasses of the other competitors and expand the nest until it either run out of space or food. If it run out of food it likely will have won already. and about “muh armor” they can just enter body orifices and eat them from inside while still alive. I have seen ants do that. And yes, the queen ant went as one of the species in the battle royale, she reproduced after the battle started.
1. Argentine ant is really tiny, solifuge probably wouldn’t even see it as food.
2. There are tens of thousands ants species, probably much more.
Many more tiny flying insects
3. Queen ant can fly.
With all that there is a good chance some ants will escape the battle and manage to set up a nest somewhere, in the end it will be ant vs ant battle.
The second ant fertilized the queen but didn’t enter the battle grounds, the queen still is only one and only individual of her species entering the battle grounds.
Every animal requires another animal of its species to exist.
Coconut crab. >largest currently alive arthropod >has claws that outright oneshots >99% other arthropods >the remaining <1% can be dealt over time by gnawing at them with the claws >has armor that >99% of other arthropods can't get through >the <1% that can cause actual damage (by poison) are typically much smaller and fragile and can be squished first
realistically if all just go at each other witk killing intent without dogpiling on the largest arthropods first, then the largest arthropods will be the last ones standing and then it's a match between who's the biggest dog in the yard, and that's the coconut crab. this fuck kills birds and dogs.
Giant tropical centipedes would win in their wight class against all opponents.
They have armour, venom, agility and strength.
I dont' think it's fair to bring montrosities of different weight classes like coconut crabs into this.
honestly it's probs gonna go down to whichever species has the longest lifespan, like an isopod and a horseshoe crab aren't really gonna fight, as in it's physically impossible, and many of them will have defenses too strong for any other animal to get past
so anyone that knows any arthropod that has an extended lifespan, feel free to chime in
The ironclad beetle can live for years and could just tank most of what would attempt to attack it. I wouldn't doubt that even a crab could not crack it's armor. It wouldn't have to fight.
> This beetle is noted for its durability. Its thick, densely layered and interlocking elytra, connected to the ventral cuticle by complex lateral support structures, are able to support maximum force of 149 newtons, approximately equal to the force exerted by 15 kilograms or 33.069 lbs.
... > Body size did determine the strength of the coconut crabs' claws, Oka and colleagues found: the larger the crab, the stronger the pinch. Given that the largest coconut crabs weigh around 9 lbs., the researchers calculated that the biggest of the species could generate a pinch with a force of 3,300 newtons, greater than that of any other crustacean.
The ironclad beetle can live for years and could just tank most of what would attempt to attack it. I wouldn't doubt that even a crab could not crack it's armor. It wouldn't have to fight.
Would a coconut crab be successful in even being able to grip onto it though?
it's literally just a tiny bug with no offensive weapon. it will get it's head chopped off withing the first hour.
>it's literally just a tiny bug with no offensive weapon.
A tiny bug with armor that makes it impervious to practically everyone else.
>it will get it's head chopped off withing
Again what arthropod with enough snapping force would actually be able to grab onto it when it's just sitting there with it's legs tucked in
>what arthropod with enough snapping force would actually be able to grab onto it when it's just sitting there with it's legs tucked in
A crab. Even a small coconut crab could crack its shell
Hermit crabs can live over 20 years.
But how will you do the temperature/humidity for everyone right without killing some species? Will there be unlimited food? But why would they fight if they have food?how should water animals and land animals interact?
Since it has been mentioned ITT more than once, coconut crabs live for 120 years, possibly longer than that.
They're massive and ultra strong.
My money's on them.
Coconut crab would probably get co-op'd by other large crustaceans or something whose fangs, claws, or stings would go through the armor.
Camel spiders need to constantly eat. Doesn't really take long for them to wear out.
Goliath bird eating tarantula would get one-shotted by stings or the coconut crab.
Mantis shrimp's claws don't really work well outside of water. Also would get one shotted by sadistic motherfuckers like tarantula hawk wasp or large crustaceans.
These creatures arent smart enough to act the way you describe and cooperate with species that arent their own. Unless bloodlusted most of them will avoid the much bigger coconut crab as well.
Are we on land or in the water? That makes a huge difference.
the real matchup is 1 (one) average ant vs 1 (one) average coconut crab
the coconut crab will literally never be able to catch the ant, while the ant is free to parasitically eat from the crab until they both die of old age
>until they both die of old age
Then the coconut crab wins because they live for decades while the ant will live for like a month
>one of each species
>many people are saying ants
>ant tards
Ants. These tiny bastard are nearly impossible to kill for the biggest arthropods, and they attack in gang, like naggers
A fertilized queen argentine ant if it manages to get away and make a nest somewhere. Once it makes a nest it is over, it will feed on the carcasses of the other competitors and expand the nest until it either run out of space or food. If it run out of food it likely will have won already. and about “muh armor” they can just enter body orifices and eat them from inside while still alive. I have seen ants do that. And yes, the queen ant went as one of the species in the battle royale, she reproduced after the battle started.
The ants will win
1 per species, eusocial cucks get btfo
1 fertilized queen ant is 1 per species. She will produce minions later but still enters the battle as a single individual.
>still enters the battle as a single individual.
Then a solifuge eats it before it lays any egg.
1. Argentine ant is really tiny, solifuge probably wouldn’t even see it as food.
2. There are tens of thousands ants species, probably much more.
Many more tiny flying insects
3. Queen ant can fly.
With all that there is a good chance some ants will escape the battle and manage to set up a nest somewhere, in the end it will be ant vs ant battle.
>fertilized
That requires a second ant. Stop trying to "erm actually" this. One per species.
The second ant fertilized the queen but didn’t enter the battle grounds, the queen still is only one and only individual of her species entering the battle grounds.
Every animal requires another animal of its species to exist.
Coconut crab.
>largest currently alive arthropod
>has claws that outright oneshots >99% other arthropods
>the remaining <1% can be dealt over time by gnawing at them with the claws
>has armor that >99% of other arthropods can't get through
>the <1% that can cause actual damage (by poison) are typically much smaller and fragile and can be squished first
realistically if all just go at each other witk killing intent without dogpiling on the largest arthropods first, then the largest arthropods will be the last ones standing and then it's a match between who's the biggest dog in the yard, and that's the coconut crab. this fuck kills birds and dogs.
Giant tropical centipedes would win in their wight class against all opponents.
They have armour, venom, agility and strength.
I dont' think it's fair to bring montrosities of different weight classes like coconut crabs into this.
If anybody thinks the answer is anything that isn't an ant, you're gay and retarded. My money is on something hyper aggressive like fire ants.
It says one (1) of each species you dense motherfucker
Ants strength is in numbers
honestly it's probs gonna go down to whichever species has the longest lifespan, like an isopod and a horseshoe crab aren't really gonna fight, as in it's physically impossible, and many of them will have defenses too strong for any other animal to get past
so anyone that knows any arthropod that has an extended lifespan, feel free to chime in
The ironclad beetle can live for years and could just tank most of what would attempt to attack it. I wouldn't doubt that even a crab could not crack it's armor. It wouldn't have to fight.
> This beetle is noted for its durability. Its thick, densely layered and interlocking elytra, connected to the ventral cuticle by complex lateral support structures, are able to support maximum force of 149 newtons, approximately equal to the force exerted by 15 kilograms or 33.069 lbs.
...
> Body size did determine the strength of the coconut crabs' claws, Oka and colleagues found: the larger the crab, the stronger the pinch. Given that the largest coconut crabs weigh around 9 lbs., the researchers calculated that the biggest of the species could generate a pinch with a force of 3,300 newtons, greater than that of any other crustacean.
Would a coconut crab be successful in even being able to grip onto it though?
pic related. Research started to be done on their strength because they can be run over by vehicles and not die.
it's literally just a tiny bug with no offensive weapon. it will get it's head chopped off withing the first hour.
>it's literally just a tiny bug with no offensive weapon.
A tiny bug with armor that makes it impervious to practically everyone else.
>it will get it's head chopped off withing
Again what arthropod with enough snapping force would actually be able to grab onto it when it's just sitting there with it's legs tucked in
>what arthropod with enough snapping force would actually be able to grab onto it when it's just sitting there with it's legs tucked in
A crab. Even a small coconut crab could crack its shell
Hermit crabs can live over 20 years.
But how will you do the temperature/humidity for everyone right without killing some species? Will there be unlimited food? But why would they fight if they have food?how should water animals and land animals interact?
Since it has been mentioned ITT more than once, coconut crabs live for 120 years, possibly longer than that.
They're massive and ultra strong.
My money's on them.
Can any spider or wasp break a the shell of one of those giant crabs and lobsters?
Unlikely. At best the could puncture a joint or somewhere soft, probably wouldn’t do much though
Then it is either the coconut crab, the Japanese giant crab, or an oversized American lobster.
Maybe Some of these gigant wasps? They could just fly away and just hit at the end
One of the large crabs
Coconut crab or mantis shrimp. Maybe even camel spider or goliath bird eating tarantula.
>Coconut crab
Maybe
>mantis shrimp
>goliath bird eating tarantula
>camel spider
Not even remotely
Coconut crab would probably get co-op'd by other large crustaceans or something whose fangs, claws, or stings would go through the armor.
Camel spiders need to constantly eat. Doesn't really take long for them to wear out.
Goliath bird eating tarantula would get one-shotted by stings or the coconut crab.
Mantis shrimp's claws don't really work well outside of water. Also would get one shotted by sadistic motherfuckers like tarantula hawk wasp or large crustaceans.
Ok who do you think would win homosexual?
These creatures arent smart enough to act the way you describe and cooperate with species that arent their own. Unless bloodlusted most of them will avoid the much bigger coconut crab as well.
Ants
Delicious ant food
How do they kill the tiny minuscule arthropods ?
How would they deal with parasitic arthropods?