If dogs know what they’re doing is bad and that they’ll be scolded for it, which they don’t like at all, why do they misbehave anyway?
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If dogs know what theyre doing is bad and that theyll be scolded for it, which they dont like at all, why do they misbehave anyway?
He's just a bad dog. Very bad.
Because they are dumb fricking animals
Seethe bootlicker
They don't have a concept of right or wrong and can't feel actual guilt. They just cower when they anticipate the consequences. If you aren't around then they'll typically do whatever they want because they don't consider the actions wrong.
They have a concept of right and wrong. But they aren’t capable of separating it from reality and believing in being good because they
>JUST SHOULD OK!?!?
So it’s horsehsoe theory, animals and the smartest humans (atheists and israelites) perceive morality identically.
>inb4 so thats not right and wrong
Right and wrong is based in consequences. Delusional morality is best referred to as virtue and sin.
What they have trouble with is definitely connecting themselves to an event so they can’t assign guilt consistently. They know they’re there and something wrong happened and they might be connected to it, that’s it. I’ve seen a dog instantly act paranoid on camera after knocking over a plant but when i came home the other dog was paranoid and fearful and the guilty dog forgot about it.
If people know what they're doing is bad and they'll be scolded for it, which they don't like at all, why do they misbehave anyway?
Dogs don't understand concepts like 'guilt' or 'innocence', they only understand that something vaguely wrong has occurred and that someone is either going to get yelled at or someone is currently yelling at them. They barely even understand they are responsible, they just don't want to be the one punished.
It's what makes training dogs difficult, as the best you can hope for is they get it in their heads that if they feel like they're about to shit on the floor, they'll get yelled at, so they go to you to let them outside before that happens.
No, you get them outside and give them the biggest fricking piece of bacon ever so they think it feels good to shit outside. They will never, ever forget that lesson because dogs fricking love bacon.
>Dogs don't understand concepts like 'guilt' or 'innocence', they only understand that something vaguely wrong has occurred and that someone is either going to get yelled at or someone is currently yelling at them. They barely even understand they are responsible, they just don't want to be the one punished.
Not always true. Many dogs understand ideas like that really well.
Cats and kids do it too. Better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission is apparently a universal axiom.
dogs only act remorseful because they see you not happy with them. it's less "oh frick he found out frick frick this is bad" and more "oh frick he's angry shit shit shit did i do something i have no idea"
intelligent creatures need to cause a lil bit of mischief
Usually boredom or anxiety
Boredom.
They know if they misbehave something will happen.
Most misbehaving dogs are under stimulated
They can get excited and forget about certain things
people especially kids do the same thing all the time, tho with dogs id imagine its mainly cuz they're just dumb sometimes, theyre dogs
The real question is, why do "scientists" insist that animals in this case aren't feeling shame or can't connect cause and effect when every pet owner knows they can? If my cat was pissed at me, when I was a kid, he'd piss on my pillow. I might not discover this for hours but after a while I'd notice his absence and find him hiding behind the toilet in the bathroom.
I feel sorry for kids who got a cat instead of a dog growing up
Why?
Dogs are shitty animals that's why
Faustian spirit
You’re suggesting feral dogs are happier than pet dogs?
Why do humans do drugs and commit crimes if they know it's bad?
>it's bad
That’s a false equivalence. People so drugs or crime out of desperation, dogs seem to do against what they’re told, despite proper training and having all their needs met and being provided with affection.
I do drugs and crime for fun
>people do drugs and crime out of desperation
lmao
People do crime because it's easy and doesn't require a reference check, you fricking moron.
>People so drugs or crime out of desperation
that's a laughably small subset anon
Is this what you really think? We do drugs and crime because it's fun and right and wrong is measured by who catches you, if they even can.
This is likely all you've ever taught your dog. That right and wrong is measured by who catches you, if they even can. You never taught them that right and wrong was a matter of the natural order and what naturally results in a desirable outcome independent of any one beings opinions. "eating tasty food is good" and "touching hot iron is bad" are simple examples of this principle. Or "sticking things up your ass will cause fecal incontinence". Because dogs have limited awareness, you can exploit their lower intelligence and make them think that things that are just your opinion are natural law. This is how religion and policing work on low IQ people.
>People so drugs or crime out of desperation
spoken like a true white middle class fricktard
It's not a false equivalence at all.
"People do drugs or crime out of desperation", what the hell are you talking about? People do drugs or crime all the time without being desperate.
You sound really kind of autistic and clinical in how you speak about dogs "provided with affection", as if it was some technical thing you administered, and just your thread in general.
I'm guessing you're a bad dog owner, I hope you will give any dogs a break from your bullshit.
>People so drugs or crime out of desperation
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Hi, I used to do drugs. I definitely didn't do them out of desperation. I guess things got a bit desperate when I was running out of drugs, but other than that it was 100% for personal enjoyment even though I understood the risks and societal damage involved.
Really I'd say it's pretty similar. My dog will sometimes sneak into the pantry and snarf the entire box of snausages. He knows it's wrong, but he thinks that the temporary payoff of being full of snausages is enough to counteract the perceived threat of future retaliation. Whether that's ACTUALLY true is almost irrelevant, right? Crime is an inherently irrational act, as the person committing a crime obviously thinks they'll get away with it.
It’s not irrational at all. It’s a very rational cost benefit/risk reward analysis.
You just have to avoid fricking up. I’ve committed tons of crimes but i planned them out and never hesitated so i was never caught.