I saw this same argument again and wanted to make you guys realize one thing. Almost every animal is important for eco system, mosquitoes also pollinate and provide nutrition for fresh water animals
I saw this same argument again and wanted to make you guys realize one thing.
On a related/unrelated note, if we wiped every mouse and rat from the surface of the earth it would 100% improve the livelihood of everything on the planet.
>figure out mosquitoes aren't needed in a natural ecosystem
>exterminate mosquitoes
>tropical diseases disappear
>morons proliferate
>morons destroy the ecosystem and civilized society
Daily reminder that there are multiple species of mosquitoes and not all of them transmit diseases.
I want you to realize one thing, you stupid fuck. Some mosquito species are invasive and it's fine to eradicate them. The ecosystem was fine before they were introduced.
Mosquitoes and shrimps kills 1000x more people together than any other animal on Earth.
I absolutely wouldn't mind mosquitoes if not for the disease-carrier part. If anything what we should get rid of is malaria and all that shit. Mosquitoes are fine (unless you live in the kind of places where they can swarm and kill a cow in minutes, or are allergic).
>tfw living 500 meters from a pretty big lake
summer is horrible, even with nets in windows
where are your frogbros?
I wouldn't hate mosquitoes if they didn't buzz loudly and suck on your blood.
In other words, I wouldn't hate them if they didn't exist.
>Almost every animal is important for eco system
wrong.
didn't Florida release a bunch of GMO mosquitos a while back? how's that going?
>how's that going?
it's not
Brainlet take. You don't have to exterminate EVERY mosquito.
Just by removing the malaria mosquito you already prevent millions of deaths and it will have no impact on the ecosystem other than reduced niglet birthrates
you don't even have to do that.
just give people malaria meds and the disease dies out. We did it in the US.
problem is dumbasses won't take malaria pills or even get a vaccine for covid. There's no way to get rid of a disease when idiots want to get it.
Bro, it had nothing to do with anti malarials and everything to do with dusting the entire country in DDT.
malaria mosquitos still blanket 1/3 of the country
no malaria though.
Because you wiped out the reservoir.
Its not like mosquito migrate.
>Because you wiped out the reservoir.
nah, unless you mean humans by using malaria meds.
without malaria meds we'd still have malaria in the US because we never came close to wiping out mosquitoes
You're genuinely fucking retarded.
you understand the US still has malaria mosquitoes and no malaria, right?
we didn't kill off mosquitos, we killed off malaria. With drugs.
Yes, malaria was definitely wiped out with medication.
As we all know only humans can get malaria. If wild animals could get malaria then they'd all have to be given malaria meds too!
Thank god that malaria parasites can only infect humans.
Where I live mosquitoes pretty much disappeared.
I have an idea that it might be because the river that was near my house was drained. It's sad 2bh.
>Almost every animal is important for eco system
Does this go for every kingdom? What about plants or even diseases?
Just a friendly reminder to everyone going WE DONT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE ELIMINATE MOSQUITOS, we already do and have.
We used to have malaria in the united states, all the way up until the 1950s.
that explains why all the fish and flowers are dead in the US! Holy crap!
Exactly. It's because there are no more mosquitos in the US, not even one.
>We used to have malaria in the united states
it's so nice now that we don't have mosquitos in the US.
very comfy.
>there isn't a single state in the US without mosquitos
let that sink in
And I want to make you realize one thing. I don't fucking care. I WANT THEM ALL DEAD
Too bad it'll never happen, but hey, continue being a loser who makes "ALL CAPS EDGELORD" his entire personality.
That sure was a lot of projection you did there, armchair psychologist-kun.
>p-projection!
Why is this the one trumpcard that all rightoids fall upon when getting called out? Saying "projehckshen" doesn't automatically make you less of a gay.
>argument
you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
>Almost every animal is important for eco system
False. Even major species like the American Chestnut tree (used to compose the majority of American forests) may be replaced in some circumstances.
>Even major species like the American Chestnut tree (used to compose the majority of American forests) may be replaced in some circumstances
Yet it has never been replaced.
Oaks took up their role in the ecosystem.
The love of humans for animals are not based on their belief that all lives are sacred. It is based on how cute or useful they find the animal. Crush a rat's spine with a mousetrap and no one cares. Crush a stray dog's spine with a giant dogtrap and everyone will cry about it. There is an arrogance about this sentiment. A tinge of human supremacist thinking pretending to be a lover of animals. Its the same logic of mutilating a pet's genitals but decrying the removal of claws. Its an attempt at feeling like they care and value the lives of non-human animals but are in reality very selective on what animals they place importance too.
i will proudly admit i care about some animals more than others and in different ways. there are no equals, not even among man, but myself my family and my people.
as every creature is different they should all be treated differently. no mental gymnastics and philosphical bullshit required.
literally every beneficial role mosquitos play a part in can be taken over by other insects in their absence
Every animal has a role in the ecosystem, though not all of them are equally as impactful. There a thousands of other species could do what mosquitos do without being as harmful as they are to humans. Also, the world's biosphere isn't so precisely calculated that one order of bugs, that occasionally pollinate, being eradicated would cause everything to fall apart.
>There a thousands of other species could do what mosquitos do without being as harmful as they are to humans
Nobody really knows but I highly doubt it. Mosquitoes have a really efficient way of multiplying and that is because they parasatyze mammals and birds for blood. Imagine a mosquito that whose females didn't bite humans for blood. It would be an insect that couldn't support the amount o biomass mosquitoes do. This is because blood makes them really fast reproducers. It is the proteins in our blood that make mosquito larvae so abundant and quick to develop into adulthood. A non-parasyte species would have a much longer life cycle.
So yes, mosquitos are necessary to sustain the ecosystem that we currently have. Without them there would be less fish, birds and other insects that prey on them. Flowers would also be less abundant because less polinators.
>Every animal has a role in the ecosystem
what is the role of ticks?
ticks evolved to be eaten by opossums.
they say evolution doesn't have a purpose, but it does. Ticks evolved before opossums existed to eat them. They evolved so opossums could eat them. The whole purpose of ticks is to be eaten by opossums. If you find a tick living somewhere that opossums don't exist, that means opossums will soon evolve in that place.
because the purpose of ticks is to be eaten by opossums. There's no way opossums could eat anything that's not ticks, and there's no reason for ticks to exist except to be eaten by opossums. It's a opossum eat tick world out there.
similarly mosquitos evolved to polinate flowers and be eaten by fish.
if mosquitos disappeared no other animal would pollinate flowers or be eaten by fish, because that's what mosquitos do. If fish and flowers that rely on mosquitos died off, there's no way other fish or flowers that don't rely on mosquitos would take over their niche, since that is a niche for mosquitos and fish and flowers only.
similarly the purpose of the mosquito is to irritate humans, and if mosquitos were gone no other animal would ever irritate humans, because that is the purpose of mosquitos. Surely getting rid of all the bloodsucking parasites in the air and on land would be a permanent solution and no other animal would evolve to fill that role ever again. Because animals have purposes, and those purposes are necessary, and no other animal can do their special purpose.
What about all the ticks in places that don't have opossums
>What about all the ticks in places that don't have opossums
>If you find a tick living somewhere that opossums don't exist, that means opossums will soon evolve in that place.
This is such a retarded post. Are you a woman perhaps?
I was making fun of OP and other bio-teleologists
it's not funny if I have to explain it, you fucking idiot.
>If you find a tick living somewhere that opossums don't exist, that means opossums will soon evolve in that place.
Made me laugh, great post
turkey food
>There a thousands of other species could do what mosquitos do without being as harmful as they are to humans
Such as?
>the world's biosphere isn't so precisely calculated that one order of bugs, that occasionally pollinate, being eradicated would cause everything to fall apart
We are talking about a keystone species in this case.
Use google, but really any other species in their suborder. Also mosquitos are not a keystone species.
>Use google, but really any other species in their suborder
No other aquatic dipteran produces so much offspring in such a huge variety of aquatic environments that lasts as long in the water.
Seriously, what is supposed to replace them? Chironomids? They don't reproduce half as much.
>mosquitos are not a keystone species
True, they're a keystone family.
They could be wiped out species by species, like start with the one carrying diseases. The voidade could be enough for the disease to disappear before another species of harmless mosquito fills the niche.
Or screw them all because no animal that eats mosquitoes eat them exclusively.
>no animal that eats mosquitoes eat them exclusively
Mosquitos are one of the fundamental pillars of their diet.
They're annoying and they spread diseases. There are other bugs for bats and fish to eat.
they're the number one source for food in swamps and lakes or ponds, remember when bunch of morons hunt wolves to extinction and they caused a chain reaction that fucked up so entire eco system?
Africans also eat mosquitos, someone post the webm of the mosquito patties
>they spread diseases
If you don't live in Africa or South America you have nothing to worry about. If you do those diseases are keeping your people from destroying the world.
>destroying the world.
How? A single American has a bigger enviromental impact than a whole family of thirdworlders.
Now imagine if all those third worlders developed their own america.
human progress must be stopped, and reversed when possible
The issue is that whole families of thirdworlders keep trying to become americans and europeans.
yes that is because the whole family of third worlders is impoverished, diseased, and practically enslaved so vegans can have exotic "superfood" veggies, stevia, and palm oil flown to their local whole foods and vain gays can have diamonds that are practically worthless in reality because debeers withholds most of the supply (and lobbied to get lab grown diamonds inscribed with serial numbers. yes, really) and of ocurse, really cheap t-shirts.
it's like how china has low emissions "per capita". yes, their literacy standards are non-functionally low and in reality the majority of chinese live in abject poverty. china manipulates their statistics heavily but if you ever go there the average person ranges from living in the late iron age to living on welfare in the early industrial age and there are tons of homeless the government refuses to count or acknowledge. most schools in these countries are small shacks without great heating or AC.
the reasons first worlders have more emissions per capita is because we have such things as personal transit whether or not we use it every day, electricity and hot water 24/7, giant climate controlled buildings just for education, and any food we want instead of only what grows locally and in season.
and literally every country on earth is trying, desperately, to get to where we are.