I don't get these kinds of people.
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>kill friend: psycho
>kill food so it can be food: normal
>kill pet pig/cow/horse/bunny/whatever (friend): also psycho
>act like a moronic culture warrior in regards to subject: moronic culture warrior
Is veganism just an expression of autism?
These diet autism threads are consistently the absolute worst on Wauf and you cannot convince me that they aren't all made by the same person to purposefully drive down the quality of the board.
Can't you people satisfy your shitposting addiction on Wauf or /bant/ or the sharty or wherever you come from?
It’s not about killing animals, it’s about why. Psychopaths and Sociopaths kill small animals for FUN. Personally, I think there is only one good reason to kill a cat/dog, which is when they are in pain.
I don't know how anyone who kills cows or pigs can be a 'normal person'.
It's simple. pigs cows chicken fish deer is food. dogs cats horses are tools. u eat food not tools.
That's why I make sure to only kill human beings
Vegans are a broken clock in that people have become entitled, soft and comfortable as to what it means to eat another life. Our ancestors hunted and developed animism because they knew what it meant to have to work for your food. Hate to sound like a hippy, but you should be grateful to the Earth for providing you with nourishment.
I believe in
RACCOON
supremacy
because dogs and cats have a divine spark in them, god put them on earth to be companions, cows are soulless creatures that god put them on earth for us to kill and eat. it's as simple as that, and common sense really.
vegans are unironically right
shame about the food though
>Kill dogs and cats for the sole purpose of watching them suffer and die
>psychopath
Yes
>Kill cows and chickens for food and other uses, in a controlled fashion that's actively pushed and reiterated to avoid suffering as much as possible
>normal person who needs to eat and realizes we can't have everything idyllic and perfect in every way
Yes
>Kill nothing at all
>possibly admirable but naive and often privileged, so admonishing others for killing anything can be extreme
Yes
>intentionally obtuse shitpost to provoke nothingburger arguments
>OP is a homosexual
Yes
Arent those centipedes expensive if they're not native
the extremists? ya me neither
OP, what the frick are you talking about? Who are these imaginary animal non-killers getting called psychopaths? Do they exist only in your head? Maybe you should get that checked out.
him. he's the one being called a psychopath.
but he also said stuff like "talk me out of torturing puppies for fun, if eating meat is okay i don't see a reason to hold back" and "you carnist psychopaths will be executed if i have my way".
certain cultures in asia also don't see a problem with cannibalism and if it weren't for the west, child porn, bestiality, and child prostitution would all still be legal and normal there. they also have laws where it is legally preferable to kill someone after severely wounding them. best not to use them as an example.
>certain cultures in asia also don't see a problem with cannibalism and if it weren't for the west, child porn, bestiality, and child prostitution would all still be legal and normal there. they also have laws where it is legally preferable to kill someone after severely wounding them. best not to use them as an example
The point is that it's never psychopatic to kill an animal if you're actually going to use that for food. Whether it be in Asia is totally irrelevant. I just used Asia as an example because it's known that dogs or cats are eaten there.
yes, they are eaten by psychopaths and pedophiles.
you new here? in recent years, every cat/dog thread invariably will have a tourist of brown complexion show up and start seething about pet and how they need to die
If you kill animals without eating them, of course that''s psychopathic because what's the point of killing any animal if you are not making food from it? It would be like playing violent video games just because you fantazise about killing people. It's not normal and it's psychopathic.
However in certain cultures in Asia for example, cats or dogs are killed and there's nothing weird about it in that case because they are actually used for food just like pigs are used for food in western countries. Vegans are ones that I will never understand.
Meet the OTHER gang
>VEGAN
An upper class child who has never worked a day in his life nor seen a life of survival beyond women gardening on TV, he believes animals have deep inner worlds and comprehend abstract concepts based on his experience with cartoons and dramatized documentaries. Out of sympathy for what he imagines animals are like (pets are depressed slaves because i would be if i were a pet, he figures), he gladly ignores the suffering of his fellow man and supports trampling all over human rights in the name of animals and continuing to source a plant based diet from a slave based labor force. Will say everything is bad for the environment except for the population, which he believes will and should reach 65 billion, all concentrated in small pod cities where people exist only to eat robo/slave-farmed crops. When pressed to justify his views, he descends into complete nonsense.
He is also a strong opponent of malaria eradication because the cost to the ecosystem and animal suffering would not justify saving 600k lives a year.
>KALETEETH
A cooking hobbyist, he delights in burning fossil fuels to render the inedible into something with more caloric content. This has resulted in noticeable weight gain. He has gone vegan simply to say he is vegan, and will always make sure everyone knows it, but has been caught eating fish in secret. Calls everyone who isn't vegan a psychopath and a murderer.
>BEANFART
Unironically believes that meat will kill him based on poorly controlled studies that compared poor black americans on a fast food diet to their rich white oppressors enjoying the benefits of expensive imports and paid nutritionists and personal trainers. Therefore, he eats the most plant based diet he can afford that day. His hair has fallen out from malnutrition, and yet he is still chubby, so he takes this as a sign of good health.
inb4 some vegan says
>how can you be for malaria eradication if you have a problem with the birthrate
>i dont see a difference between giving africans condoms and plan B and letting them die horribly *shrug*
'cuz they are that dumb
MEAT THE GANG
>CARNIST
A wealthy intellectual and man of culture and finer pleasures. Advocates for abandoning the smarter livestock species to pet/working animal status and genetically engineering the present dumbest livestock species to be totally incapable of any form of consciousness - so the lack of activity will make their meat more tender. He is, plain to say, sick of those days when the butcher only has tough stew meats, as animal protein is all he eats. Has curiously low blood pressure, very little body fat, and excellent brain function. Completely abstains from drugs and alcohol because they are derived from plants.
>BLOODMOUTH
An anti-cooking advocate, sees the continued use of fire as damaging to humanity and the planet, as we are now so intelligent we do not need to aim for maximal digestive efficiency to survive effectively. Cites studies showing that cooked foods contain more carcinogens and less nutrients than their raw ingredients - especially meat. Holds his anti-fire ideology so far he is against the use of fossil fuels, and admits it would make plant based diets impossible for some time because vegans depend on the global economy to maintain access to a sufficient diversity and volume of crops. Allies with carnist if the power needed to keep fake animals alive is nuclear, because nuclear is technically not combustion.
>CORPSEBREATH
Simply eats what is good for him. Is aiming to maximize his lifespan while doing the least harm, so he only eats animals that have died naturally or needed euthanized to end inescapable suffering. Also consumes infertile eggs and excess milk, but does not believe in separating mothers and calves to increase milk production, because man must be thankful and respectful towards those who provide for him. Thinks carnist is a bit insane and we should just wait for them to die and deal with the taste.
Top kek every time
Say, has anyone heard of a pro-life vegan?
Carnivores in general are not a favoured animal to eat because
>Less energetic value compared to herbivore meat
>Raising carnivores requires raising other animals to feed them (which then requires feeding those animals)
Most livestock are animals that eat stuff we don't want like grass
So carnivores never really caught on unless you're from an Asian backwards country
go outside your shitty concrete cage sometimes, city boy
cows pigs and chickens were made by humans to be used as food. dogs and cats controlled pests and helped hunting, people who said they don't kill animals are just lying.
cats dogs = friends
cows pigs chickens = food
vegan = malnourished and mentally ill
it really is that simple
I don't get why I can't hate dogs or cats. Just be yourself. Stop seething.
There's a big difference between hating certain pets (or even all pets) and KILLING dogs and cats.
>Kill people
>Frick pigs
Muslim
>Eat people
>Frick sheep
British
brown hands, blah blah, you've heard it before, you're fricking brown.
>I don't get normal human beings: The Post
Yeah okay OP, I'll explain it to you simply.
Humans are at the very top of the food chain and so we get to determine what that means. All life consumes other lives as a matter of course - plants feel pain, animals feel pain, humans feel pain. Empathizing with your food too much is only going to net you starvation.
This being the case, the outlined picture in OP makes perfect sense. There are some animals that we domesticate for food or as beasts of burden, others that we domesticate to do more coordinated tasks (E.G. ratter dogs, guard dogs, hunting dogs) and then there's us. Simple as.
Eating animals is both normal and natural, it is what both humans and other animals have done since the beginning of time.
>plants feel pain
Im not reading the rest. No, they dont. Please read instead of making guesses
eat dogs, cats, pigs, cows, cocroach
The only animals I have killed are fish, not counting bugs and stuff.
I don't count buying meat as killing.
A total refusal to end sentient life is an extreme position in the natural world. It's completely untenable. When given the opportunity, even a peaceful herbivore will smash the skull of its rival open, just to secure more resources for itself. Nobody considers you a psycho for killing dogs and cats that are a threat to you, what makes someone a psycho is killing defenceless pets for no reason and indulging in their torture. You are a psycho if you kill lizards and birds for no reason, too.
t. doesn't even eat mammals or cephalopods and is an on/off vegetarian.
As you dont have a physiological need to eat animals you only kill them for pleasure. Not maliciously in the sense of torturing for fun of course but the animal doesnt really consider that
>As you dont have a physiological need to eat animals you only kill them for pleasure. Not maliciously in the sense of torturing for fun of course but the animal doesnt really consider that
You already got BTFO here
The simple answer is:
meat eaters are healthier
meat eaters live longer
meat eaters are simply less likely to starve to death
is "pleasure" just not being a nutrient deficient worm that needs a globalized economy to run perfectly smoothly (and burn a lot of gas in doing so) to not die? is that PLEASURE? health? you FRICKING IDIOT. You have a crippling self imposed food allergy.
>vegans be like: we dont need to cure diabetes for diabetics to survive (because they worship an imaginary god who values all life and "ethical consistency" over all else, they are actually morally obligated to refuse to cure any human disease if animal testing would be required, and doubly so if continuous treatment could manage it, and yet wonder why they are seen as anti-human)
>Kill whatever the frick you want as long as it isn't endangered: based
Don't kill animals that are more useful alive: normal person
Kill animals that are still useful: PETA
Kill animals that are used for food: extremist
>kill pet dogs
>don't kill working dogs
Companion pets are still useful anon. Nobody has a companion cow.
I don't kill any animals, I just eat them.
Simple as.
That's because you're mentally ill.
So why shouldn't we eat stray cats/dogs? They aren't really our "fellows" since they usually have no owner and no name, plus they aren't technically wildlife (although I guess that depends on the specific circumstances.)
we should eat dogs and cats
dogs are very lean and cats are filthy
its just better to eat pigs and boars
>So why shouldn't we eat stray cats/dogs
Because they tend to be diseased sacks of shit full of parasites and whatnot. Same reason why feral pigs arent commonly eaten, but wild boars are.
>feral pigs
>wild boars
It's the same thing dumbass.
>feral domestic animal
>completely wild, undomestic animal
>it's the same thing dumbass
While it is semi true that domestic pigs revert to a more 'wild-like' appearance after a few generations of living in the wild, they are still no longer wild boar, and never will be.
they taste bad, they are not fat enough and aren't as easily farmable
it's that simple
This. There really is no moral difference between eating a dog or eating a cow. The reason why we don't is because
>dogs have/had more utility as a working animal and therefore thats what they were domesticated for
>since thats what they were domesticated for there is no large-scale farming practises for dogs, that's simply what other animals are for
>currently dogs are too skinny and meatless for it to be worth farming them for meat in their current state
>stray dogs and cats are too skinny and diseased to justify killing them for meat en masse, I'm sure some homeless people do however
The reasons why we don't farm cats and dogs for meat is purely practical on behalf of our ancestors. If it were ever easier to farm a dog over a cow then they would have done it. It wasn't, so they didn't. It really is that simple.
There is because people feel that way. Morals are nothing but emotions stated with authority. Ethics are a farce btw. No god = no ethics. Period. State your faith before stating your ethical position.
Then where does the moral stance that we shouldnt let our emotions control us come from?
religion which is ironically purely emotional
people arent very self aware
making it about ownership or purpose is a psycho larping as emotion haver larp. this post is what nailed it
its always about how people feel. normal people are just more honest about it while midwits try and choose just one feeling and bury it under an immanuel kant larp. also see: "homophobia" is innate and instinctive. midwits can spare us the abuse of purpose, muh diseases, and logical proof of gawd shit. morals are probably more tied to biology than people want to admit (notice that animal rights is just a white thing). some people, especially browns, don't have any animal empathy at all while most whites and ashkenazi israelites have a little more than they should but not so much they can't eat.
>cow are sentient, almost elephant tier
>he hasn't seen the homekill videos where the cows are like "oh you just shot someone in front of me i'll just stand here and chew while you point the gun at me"
they appear like a dumb dog in their youth and then undergo total braindeath as adults, like a sponge.
Did you ever consider that the cows might not mind dying? If you think about it, herd animals have a biological duty to sacrifice themselves when a predator is upon them.
They're our fellows genetically and socially. We bred them to be so.
Homeless people are still people.
You could use the same reasoning to justify slavery
real morals are emotional, that's a more honorable thing to be based on, a solid feeling you can justify, not a vaguer feeling or spiritual schizo thing you have to hide with justifications and absolutes.
the more like a person, a likable person, the more people like the animal. it's that simple. it has utility but they simply feel that way. cats are like babies and dogs are also human-like and both carry the implication that another humans feelings are connected to the event. there's a lot of emotions going on there.
cows are hard to empathize with especially when you see videos of them not caring as they're lined up and shot.
pigs, we know, people have to be lied to about because they are more profitable than cows. the ancient people knew. it's a terrible thing to eat them.
chickens don't even deserve a thought. they're basically reptiles. figuring out their brain can process operant conditioning on very simple tasks was considered a breakthrough. it's like empathizing with a trout.
and people who are against killing animals tend to not have any of those feelings at all, which weirds people out, whether you feel extremely for everything or don't seem to feel at all and quantify it all with things like "supposed suffering", it makes you appear to either be a genuine psychopath, a crazy woman who murders people for running over dogs, or some principled devil who has made the conscious decision to override his good human emotions with an arbitrary rational system of morals that are an unnatural abomination, which leads him to do often awful things in the name of consistency
that last person is the worst of all
they're also known as lawyers and politicians
this is the dozenth vegan thread and you get btfo every time
cow are sentient, almost elephant tier
I curse YHWH for making them so tasty
>chicken
IT'S UP
homie