>Humans for some reason go extinct
I often fantasize about this. I know it's not gonna happen and if it did then I wouldn't be around anymore, but it's still fun to think about.
On day 1, not much would change. Give it a few years and the world would be nearly devoid of signs of civilization. A few centuries and all that would be left is the pyramids. Just endless wildnerness, man, filled with countless species all acting like nothing happened.
>Who comes out at the top after that?
I'm guessing by "most powerful" you mean animals that can easily kill other animals.
Evolution is driven by competition, so anyone who makes it to the top spot won't be there for long. My top pick would be bears. Bears are the humans of the animal world. There's a bear species in every biome, their diets are highly flexible, they're extremely intelligent and well equipped to defend themselves. Their only limitation is their social skills. They tend to keep to themselves and never really work together to get food, a bear doesn't need a lot of other bears around so their numbers would stay much lower than dogs and cats.
Some endangered species would go extinct because of all the damn dogs and cats running around with no humans to cull their numbers or limit their movements. All 6 continents would be fricked. Domesticated species would go completely feral and strengthen their genes due to natural selection and specialization. Although, some wild species like wolves and lions would explode due to all the fresh prey running around. Especially wolves because they would be free to mix with feral dogs or eat them depending on their size and temperament. This would weaken their genes a little, since dogs are bred to be mentally challenged and have all kinds of health issues.
Birds. They are extremely adaptable, mobile, intelligent and ability to eat anything, and not even a tiger fricks with an angry goose. If they alone became huge it would be game over
Out of those only the ape could develop tools.
That isn't the smartest bird or the smartest cat, they're too specialized at killing other animals to care about anything else. Extintion comes to them fast as proven so many times by the clues left in the rocks.
Hell, if we were gone the relatives of that apebwould probably do that to the relatives of whatever giant bird and cat were around by the time they colonazied their habitat.
To add to my post the cooler the adaptations the animal has to survive the more likely it is to rely on them instead to invest in brain intelligence.
I call it survival of the shittiest
birds cant become us they have no hands which is one of the main conditions for intelligence, the best flying candidates are colugos and some squirrels
Please don't say that because it implies we ourselves might have an underlying impediment to become something greater than us. That's not how evolution works and we ourselves have made too many great adaptations to get where we are right now.
And also we don't even need adaptations anymore because we've developed technology to aid us with our biological limits. And it only took us a couple of centuries. It's scary how fast we have advanced technology in the history of our planet.
ofcourse we have, we are shit compare to so many animals, but our brains carry us
thats the key, hyper-specialisation always led to evolutionary stagnation, we arent really good at anything physiologically and that pushed the need to evolve.
I meant some creature above ours (we might not have the perception it exists just like ants in relation to us).
By saying birds can't achieve our level of evolutionary development, it might mean we have also a shortcoming that will stop us in our tracks to advance further as well.
That is not how evolution works.
>to advance further as well
Advance to what. Birds are very advanced at flying, we are not, eagle's eye is much better than ours, some birds vocal capabilities are superior to ours, they just cant become humans
What we are advancing towards is a limbless slug that will have everything done for by the machines.
Raccoons and bears fit most of the criteria that you would expect to be necessary, and they interact with man-made environments enough that our disappearance would be enough to drive adaptations.
Probably noone. I mean it's not like we're actively trying to block species from evolving or dominating. Chimps of some shit seem like the most obvious candidate. And orcas in the oceans.
But I would really hope that octopuses, cuttlefish and corvids dominate and evolve in the future, they're just too cool.
the main condition for evolving in to us is not to be at the top of your food chain, this is the core conclusion out of the whole field of paleoanthropology
all pictured examples are evolutionary dead ends
Anything that fits the following >Not being a bird, their brains are unable to develop subjective intelligence >Having complex dexterous hands >Living in a social, helpful group that fights other groups to death because frick em >Omnivorous, with strong stomach acid so they can survive on rotten scraps >Big and strong enough to build structures >Having individuality, it pushes for competition and innovation, hive behavior is bad >Taking care of their kids until they're fully grown adults, passing down complex knowledge and culture >Being vocal and communicative >Mating is considered sacred and intimate, preferably monogamous >Long life span >Decent sensory organs >Versatile body plan
gorillas are threatened and tigers almost non existent at this point
probably chimps
but depends on what do you mean by on top, there are many species who are at the top of their food chain that didnt evolve anything even close to intelligence, like crocodiles, one of the most successful species throughout all of history
Beavers, unironically. They build, they change their environment, they're emotional, they rear their young. All they need is for the young to stick around after maturing and they'd unlock tribal behavior. They already frick with sticks so fire will come eventually.
Unrelated, but rats already show rodents have the potential to evolve human-like social intelligence and tool use, so with us out of the way it'd only be a matter of time.
some species that hunts well in groups, Lions, wolves, dogs, still no one would frick with elephants however elephants breed slowly, they would never conquer the world
>Humans for some reason go extinct
I often fantasize about this. I know it's not gonna happen and if it did then I wouldn't be around anymore, but it's still fun to think about.
On day 1, not much would change. Give it a few years and the world would be nearly devoid of signs of civilization. A few centuries and all that would be left is the pyramids. Just endless wildnerness, man, filled with countless species all acting like nothing happened.
>Who comes out at the top after that?
I'm guessing by "most powerful" you mean animals that can easily kill other animals.
Evolution is driven by competition, so anyone who makes it to the top spot won't be there for long. My top pick would be bears. Bears are the humans of the animal world. There's a bear species in every biome, their diets are highly flexible, they're extremely intelligent and well equipped to defend themselves. Their only limitation is their social skills. They tend to keep to themselves and never really work together to get food, a bear doesn't need a lot of other bears around so their numbers would stay much lower than dogs and cats.
Some endangered species would go extinct because of all the damn dogs and cats running around with no humans to cull their numbers or limit their movements. All 6 continents would be fricked. Domesticated species would go completely feral and strengthen their genes due to natural selection and specialization. Although, some wild species like wolves and lions would explode due to all the fresh prey running around. Especially wolves because they would be free to mix with feral dogs or eat them depending on their size and temperament. This would weaken their genes a little, since dogs are bred to be mentally challenged and have all kinds of health issues.
Birds. They are extremely adaptable, mobile, intelligent and ability to eat anything, and not even a tiger fricks with an angry goose. If they alone became huge it would be game over
Out of those only the ape could develop tools.
That isn't the smartest bird or the smartest cat, they're too specialized at killing other animals to care about anything else. Extintion comes to them fast as proven so many times by the clues left in the rocks.
Hell, if we were gone the relatives of that apebwould probably do that to the relatives of whatever giant bird and cat were around by the time they colonazied their habitat.
If humans actually taught chimps to use fire freely and not stopping them when they do so, we could have a direct competitor in a few millennia
>most likely
chimps
>what I wished
octopi or parrots
To add to my post the cooler the adaptations the animal has to survive the more likely it is to rely on them instead to invest in brain intelligence.
I call it survival of the shittiest
birds cant become us they have no hands which is one of the main conditions for intelligence, the best flying candidates are colugos and some squirrels
heres an illustration
lemurs are pretty smart the problem is they are sheltered on their tiny island and islands always lead to degradation of species
smart for animals in general*
compared to other primates they are morons
so the answer is chimps, chimps are almost us already
Evolution is fake and gay.
>no hands
>all of this to maybe have an hypothetical chance to frick
>only once a year
I wish it were that easy tbdesu
Please don't say that because it implies we ourselves might have an underlying impediment to become something greater than us. That's not how evolution works and we ourselves have made too many great adaptations to get where we are right now.
And also we don't even need adaptations anymore because we've developed technology to aid us with our biological limits. And it only took us a couple of centuries. It's scary how fast we have advanced technology in the history of our planet.
ofcourse we have, we are shit compare to so many animals, but our brains carry us
thats the key, hyper-specialisation always led to evolutionary stagnation, we arent really good at anything physiologically and that pushed the need to evolve.
I meant some creature above ours (we might not have the perception it exists just like ants in relation to us).
By saying birds can't achieve our level of evolutionary development, it might mean we have also a shortcoming that will stop us in our tracks to advance further as well.
That is not how evolution works.
>to advance further as well
Advance to what. Birds are very advanced at flying, we are not, eagle's eye is much better than ours, some birds vocal capabilities are superior to ours, they just cant become humans
What we are advancing towards is a limbless slug that will have everything done for by the machines.
We were pretty advanced at climbing trees and now we are not.
Raccoons and bears fit most of the criteria that you would expect to be necessary, and they interact with man-made environments enough that our disappearance would be enough to drive adaptations.
bears dont fit almost any criteria for development of human like intelligence
being omnivorous is not enough
and solitary behavior is a dead end
Probably noone. I mean it's not like we're actively trying to block species from evolving or dominating. Chimps of some shit seem like the most obvious candidate. And orcas in the oceans.
But I would really hope that octopuses, cuttlefish and corvids dominate and evolve in the future, they're just too cool.
Birds I expect , probably ravens.
Rhesus macaques most likely will be the ancestors of neo-humans.
Maybe octopuses but not sure if they can being underwater.
octopuses dont educate their young, they kill themselves before they would born so that the murder instinct didnt kick in
very short lifespan too
the main condition for evolving in to us is not to be at the top of your food chain, this is the core conclusion out of the whole field of paleoanthropology
all pictured examples are evolutionary dead ends
ive heard racoons are actually smarter than cats and dogs, and they are omnivores, but not really social, so thats a problem.
>but not really social
is that supposed to be a contradiction
stealing food is not a social behavior
>stealing food
None of them is aggressive so, in this context, I call it sharing.
Anything that fits the following
>Not being a bird, their brains are unable to develop subjective intelligence
>Having complex dexterous hands
>Living in a social, helpful group that fights other groups to death because frick em
>Omnivorous, with strong stomach acid so they can survive on rotten scraps
>Big and strong enough to build structures
>Having individuality, it pushes for competition and innovation, hive behavior is bad
>Taking care of their kids until they're fully grown adults, passing down complex knowledge and culture
>Being vocal and communicative
>Mating is considered sacred and intimate, preferably monogamous
>Long life span
>Decent sensory organs
>Versatile body plan
my money is on racoons
some kind of mustelid then, or a coon.
gorillas are threatened and tigers almost non existent at this point
probably chimps
but depends on what do you mean by on top, there are many species who are at the top of their food chain that didnt evolve anything even close to intelligence, like crocodiles, one of the most successful species throughout all of history
there's already an advanced society of deep-sea cephalopods, so those if they ever decide that it's worth leaving the ocean.
redpill me on advanced society of deep-sea cephalopods
That owl reminds me the rabbit in donnie darko
Nothing thats gonna wipe out mankind wont also wipe out these guys
Beavers, unironically. They build, they change their environment, they're emotional, they rear their young. All they need is for the young to stick around after maturing and they'd unlock tribal behavior. They already frick with sticks so fire will come eventually.
Unrelated, but rats already show rodents have the potential to evolve human-like social intelligence and tool use, so with us out of the way it'd only be a matter of time.
we are already evolved rats dude, same branch of evolution, very close relatives
same with beavers they are just river rats
One of the main problems with beavers is they are vegetarians, you cant get enough energy for a big brain with plant food
some species that hunts well in groups, Lions, wolves, dogs, still no one would frick with elephants however elephants breed slowly, they would never conquer the world
The time of ravens will approach
>implying
Fungi will keep ruling.
redpill me on fungi
They're entangled in everything. They're in your ADN. The biggest biomass in the world is a huge-ass fungi colony.
There's no escape, we already won.
>we
>ADN
>we
Putos hongos de internet.
just take a deep breath
*takes a deep breath*
All hail the Great Mushroom !
And by the way, you are now breathing manually as you read this
He's asking which animal has the biggest chance to rebuild the internet. Is crab btw.
thats like saying plants, or animals, biological life will always be on top, yea, very specific
...Yet plants live way longer. You'll be outlasted by the plantGODS.