>Go on, call the humans, we don't give a ...
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/october/gangs-of-mice-are-eating-seabird-chicks-alive-on-a-remote-atlantic-island.html
And right from the page about them. And I quote:
"Although commonly known as the saber-toothed tiger, it was not closely related to the tiger or other modern cats.
Every single person in this thread is either trolling or so moronic they should be required to have a handler present at all times.
They didn't go extinct because of big cats predating on them. Terror birds managed to exist in North America alongside other big cats for a time, and most of the big cats like Smilodons didn't make it to South America until after the terror birds went extinct.
Glaciation episodes during the early Pleistocene probably fricked with the South American environments and the Interchange probably made them even more vulnerable.
>Thread full of morons
Not a single one of you closeted furries has mentioned that the Jaguar was twice the size back then.We are talking 500-600lbs.
That bird may be tall but it's a 700lbs duck on stilts
Yeah, and now jaguars are small. Because there was a mass die off of prey in SA. No one actually knows why, some people speculate it was because of a meteor.
Same way they get people. >lay down on tree branch over path/creek/riverbank >wait for animal to come by >drop out of tree on to animal >bite the skull for instakill
It's really not difficult to imagine. Birds are quite fragile, a healthy adult could drop an ostrich with a single solid punch if he could reach the head.
Looks pretty easy, honestly. >Leap from cover to take the back >Use immense jaw strength to instantly crush weak hollow neck vertebrae >Bird immediately collapses paralyzed >Winner winner big ass chicken dinner
Superior dexterity. That big beak is worthless when the jaguar can outmaneuver its attacks and sweep the legs to bring it to a fall. Once its on the ground and struggles to quickly get up, just bite into the neck and crush its spine.
I'm done pretending to be a moron since a massive mongoloid is trying to one up me in my bait thread.
All the mega fauna from brazil is gone, jaguars are relativelly small cats that get by by preying on caiman, capybara and sometimes small tapirs (they can't go after large ones). The top predator in SA is this guy here, just to put you in your place.
You're fricking nuts. An adult tapir is too massive for the largest of the jaguars.
6 months ago
Anonymous
As said before they’ll hunt zebu cattle, which are a lot bigger than a tapir
>smilodons >cats
I hate this fricking meme.
And right from the page about them. And I quote:
"Although commonly known as the saber-toothed tiger, it was not closely related to the tiger or other modern cats.
Every single person in this thread is either trolling or so moronic they should be required to have a handler present at all times.
They’re felids moron, aka true cats. Just because they’re not tigers and are from a different subfamily to modern cats doesn’t mean they’re not cats
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and a hyena is a felid too. So it's as much of a cat as I am a fish because my ancestors were tetrapods. Or it's as much a cat as a bear is a dog because they're caniforms. I know some people don't have a good educational system, so don't get me wrong, but if you don't know what you're talking about just shut the frick up and try learning something for a change.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah and a hyena is a felid too
No it isn’t, it’s a Hyaenid. Way to show you’ve got no fricking clue lmao
6 months ago
Anonymous
Feliform then. The point is that it's not really a cat. If smilodon counts as a cat in any other way than superficially then bears are dogs and you're a fish. Shush, you're embarrassing yourself.
6 months ago
Anonymous
It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong you know. Feliform and felid are not equivalent terms though, Felidae are the true cats and Smilodon is a member of Felidae making it a cat. Hyenas are not, hence aren’t cats. Dogs and bears are even further away. You’re moronic
6 months ago
Anonymous
You dumbass.
Feliform =/= being a felid. Bears, seals, sealions, all of those are caniforms, yet not one of them are are canids. The smilodon IS a felid.
Okay, I was wrong. After reading your posts and checking I mixed up the terminology. Fair enough. Sorry for being a dick.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You dumbass.
Feliform =/= being a felid. Bears, seals, sealions, all of those are caniforms, yet not one of them are are canids. The smilodon IS a felid.
6 months ago
Anonymous
They kill people's horses and cows, too.
Hell, even mountain lions can take down horses from time to time.
Adult tapirs weight close to 400kg, have thick skin, as fast as shit and have short and robust necks. They're easily one of the most difficult preying items a jaguar can take on, outside of some breeds of buffalos (jaguars can't take on these) and other large cattle farmers in Brazil have.
Documented cases of jaguars taking on these things are so rare I could only find this
https://neotropical.pensoft.net/article/57029/
And lo and behold, it's a juvenile female.
This shit makes sense. The apex predator in any area shouldn't be an invincible killing machine that can take on anything any time.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody said tapirs weren’t difficult prey and nobody said it equates to a jaguar killing a Titanis, but that doesn’t mean they’re incapable of hunting an adult tapir. There’s also multiple species of tapir that overlap with jaguars, mountain tapirs for example are nowhere near 400 kg. Tigers can kill prey weighing well over a tonne, doesn’t mean they’re some monster killing machine that attacks everything on sight
6 months ago
Anonymous
They kill people's horses and cows, too.
Hell, even mountain lions can take down horses from time to time.
I literally just told you the real reason and you still come at me thinking a fricking jaguar would stand a chance against that large terror bird? You stupid frick. They can't even kill full adult tapirs.
Looks pretty easy, honestly. >Leap from cover to take the back >Use immense jaw strength to instantly crush weak hollow neck vertebrae >Bird immediately collapses paralyzed >Winner winner big ass chicken dinner
I'm just doing public service by exposing catgays at this point.
Bunch of fricking morons.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Birds are shit though, that giant long and weak neck is a liability.
The black caiman could probably drag one down to death too, or deathroll its head off.
they didn't. There's zero isotopic evidence that Jaguars preyed on them.
The giant terror birds were already extinct in South America by the time the pig cats arrived because the continent was fricked by the ecosystem collapse caused by the Andes, the disappearance of the Amazon Lake network, and possibly a comet strike in Argentina. And Titanis got fricked because the climate kept getting worse in North America reducing its suitable hunting ranges while carnivorans were better suited to the environment.
No but i'm willing to bet those dinosaur sized land crocodiles sure as shit were.
>these destroy your bird populations
>Nothing personal, kiddo
>How many rodent species did birds exterminate?
>what is scavenging
>nom, nom, nom....
>gulp!
>Go on, call the humans, we don't give a ...
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/october/gangs-of-mice-are-eating-seabird-chicks-alive-on-a-remote-atlantic-island.html
GIWTWM
In reality, it was probably due to slow reproduction speed and their eggs being in easy to get at places due to being flightless.
>implying jaguars were the biggest cat in South America at the time
Those 400+ kg Smilodon would like a word
>smilodons
>cats
I hate this fricking meme.
And right from the page about them. And I quote:
"Although commonly known as the saber-toothed tiger, it was not closely related to the tiger or other modern cats.
Every single person in this thread is either trolling or so moronic they should be required to have a handler present at all times.
The Machairodontid are true cats you fricking sperg.
>FELIDAE-MachairodontiNAE-Smilodontini-Smilodon
Still a cat, moron. You're arguing that Borophagus is not a dog and giant pandas aren't bears.
Those things were shitty lifeforms. Jaguars didn't need to kill them to make them go exting. They were already dying.
They didn't go extinct because of big cats predating on them. Terror birds managed to exist in North America alongside other big cats for a time, and most of the big cats like Smilodons didn't make it to South America until after the terror birds went extinct.
Glaciation episodes during the early Pleistocene probably fricked with the South American environments and the Interchange probably made them even more vulnerable.
>Thread full of morons
Not a single one of you closeted furries has mentioned that the Jaguar was twice the size back then.We are talking 500-600lbs.
That bird may be tall but it's a 700lbs duck on stilts
Yeah, and now jaguars are small. Because there was a mass die off of prey in SA. No one actually knows why, some people speculate it was because of a meteor.
ambush it jump on its back and bite the base of its head
Same way they get people.
>lay down on tree branch over path/creek/riverbank
>wait for animal to come by
>drop out of tree on to animal
>bite the skull for instakill
It's really not difficult to imagine. Birds are quite fragile, a healthy adult could drop an ostrich with a single solid punch if he could reach the head.
why couldnt they just fly away?
Mostly through starvation since it tipped the predator to prey ratio and more nimble smaller predators that could climb had much wider access to food.
Looks pretty easy, honestly.
>Leap from cover to take the back
>Use immense jaw strength to instantly crush weak hollow neck vertebrae
>Bird immediately collapses paralyzed
>Winner winner big ass chicken dinner
I hate catgays so goddamn much.
a lot of animals just have to survive until adulthood and the predators dont bother them anymore. only young and the old get eaten.
Superior dexterity. That big beak is worthless when the jaguar can outmaneuver its attacks and sweep the legs to bring it to a fall. Once its on the ground and struggles to quickly get up, just bite into the neck and crush its spine.
This isn't a videogame though. The size difference would be far too great for this to be a match in favor of the jaguar.
History proves you wrong tho
I'm done pretending to be a moron since a massive mongoloid is trying to one up me in my bait thread.
All the mega fauna from brazil is gone, jaguars are relativelly small cats that get by by preying on caiman, capybara and sometimes small tapirs (they can't go after large ones). The top predator in SA is this guy here, just to put you in your place.
>sometimes small tapirs (they can't go after large ones)
If they can take down a zebu bull I’m sure they can take an adult tapir
You're fricking nuts. An adult tapir is too massive for the largest of the jaguars.
As said before they’ll hunt zebu cattle, which are a lot bigger than a tapir
They’re felids moron, aka true cats. Just because they’re not tigers and are from a different subfamily to modern cats doesn’t mean they’re not cats
Yeah and a hyena is a felid too. So it's as much of a cat as I am a fish because my ancestors were tetrapods. Or it's as much a cat as a bear is a dog because they're caniforms. I know some people don't have a good educational system, so don't get me wrong, but if you don't know what you're talking about just shut the frick up and try learning something for a change.
>Yeah and a hyena is a felid too
No it isn’t, it’s a Hyaenid. Way to show you’ve got no fricking clue lmao
Feliform then. The point is that it's not really a cat. If smilodon counts as a cat in any other way than superficially then bears are dogs and you're a fish. Shush, you're embarrassing yourself.
It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong you know. Feliform and felid are not equivalent terms though, Felidae are the true cats and Smilodon is a member of Felidae making it a cat. Hyenas are not, hence aren’t cats. Dogs and bears are even further away. You’re moronic
Okay, I was wrong. After reading your posts and checking I mixed up the terminology. Fair enough. Sorry for being a dick.
You dumbass.
Feliform =/= being a felid. Bears, seals, sealions, all of those are caniforms, yet not one of them are are canids. The smilodon IS a felid.
Adult tapirs weight close to 400kg, have thick skin, as fast as shit and have short and robust necks. They're easily one of the most difficult preying items a jaguar can take on, outside of some breeds of buffalos (jaguars can't take on these) and other large cattle farmers in Brazil have.
Documented cases of jaguars taking on these things are so rare I could only find this
https://neotropical.pensoft.net/article/57029/
And lo and behold, it's a juvenile female.
This shit makes sense. The apex predator in any area shouldn't be an invincible killing machine that can take on anything any time.
Nobody said tapirs weren’t difficult prey and nobody said it equates to a jaguar killing a Titanis, but that doesn’t mean they’re incapable of hunting an adult tapir. There’s also multiple species of tapir that overlap with jaguars, mountain tapirs for example are nowhere near 400 kg. Tigers can kill prey weighing well over a tonne, doesn’t mean they’re some monster killing machine that attacks everything on sight
They kill people's horses and cows, too.
Hell, even mountain lions can take down horses from time to time.
those giant birds bones were very light in comparasion to mammal's bones
I literally just told you the real reason and you still come at me thinking a fricking jaguar would stand a chance against that large terror bird? You stupid frick. They can't even kill full adult tapirs.
>resorting to ad hominem when you lost the argument
The mark of a midwit.
I'm just doing public service by exposing catgays at this point.
Bunch of fricking morons.
Birds are shit though, that giant long and weak neck is a liability.
The black caiman could probably drag one down to death too, or deathroll its head off.
What an unsightly impotent outburst.
they didn't. There's zero isotopic evidence that Jaguars preyed on them.
The giant terror birds were already extinct in South America by the time the pig cats arrived because the continent was fricked by the ecosystem collapse caused by the Andes, the disappearance of the Amazon Lake network, and possibly a comet strike in Argentina. And Titanis got fricked because the climate kept getting worse in North America reducing its suitable hunting ranges while carnivorans were better suited to the environment.
you and half of this thread are moronic.
>I am sure to win, for my speed is superior!