How large must my apartment be to have a cat? I mean for the cat to be comfy, not simply survive. Metric please.
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How large must my apartment be to have a cat? I mean for the cat to be comfy, not simply survive. Metric please.
Define "apartment", are we talking one of those one room cuckpods, or like a real apartment that has a living room, kitchen/kitchen area and like 2 bedrooms? Because the latter would be fine for an indoor cat provided it's got some windows.
1 bedroom, relatively large living room, and a kitchen which isn't huge but isn't just a stove and a sink
Leash train the cat and you'll be fine.
Have lots of vertical places for the cat to jump and climb, and provide play for ~30 minutes before food times and you'll be fine.
One or both, but with neither you will have an understimulated cat.
How long will the cat be alone? Better to have two cats than one if for long periods, and two cats are less than twice the cost.
The BIGGEST problem, wont be for you, but for others that come over - the smell. Even one cat with a good litterbox will have a small apartment smell like a litterbox. And the only non-carpeted places to put it are likely going to be a too-small bathroom, or the kitchen.
That's why you see the meme of freaky cat people having a litterbox next to their food - because they live in a small apartment and dont have a better place to put it.
We don't really use carpets here so that whole thing won't be a problem. If there's no way to avoid it smelling strongly, then I'll probably wait until my living situation is a bit better. Thanks, hadn't really considered this, figured it was mostly due to schizos not emptying the litter box
>figured it was mostly due to schizos not emptying the litter box
It is, in a sense, but the smell of cat poop and cat pee can saturate the air real quick. So if you arent hitting it the moment it lands, and you dont have a few rooms between the box and living spaces, the living space will smell. Clean it and scent the air and it goes quick (or you get nose blind, which is how schizos dont clean it for weeks).
I will say I never had one of those hidden or inside cabinet boxes, so maybe that separation helps a lot. When I lived in small apartments I bit the bullet and shoved the box in the bathroom, then just "flushed" it every time I had to flush my toilet.
A litter genie - bought or an airtight container repurposed - should be a priority as well.
I think at least 35m^2
The most important is to have places where the cat can climb and play.
Its really about what you put in your available space.
Give the cat loads of hidey holes, and some vertical spaces they can make their own, a perch by a window with a view. Make sure they're enriched and entertained with or without you.
90 square meters with toys and outside time.
Probably like 10 square yards of apartment. I think that's like 16 cows by 12 cows or something, sorry not good with the metric system. You want probably 1/32 of a football field.
the fact is cats simply aren't meant to exist outside of their natural habitats in middle eastern and north african cities
Did I hear you want a furry and cuddly pet in an apartment?
Too much personality for that short of a lifespan.
Standing here
I realize
Rats should have a life expectancy just like me
But who's to judge
The right from wrong
When our guard is down
I think we'll both agree
That living breeds suffering
But in the end it has to be this way
I've carved my own path
You followed your tooth
But maybe we're both the same
The world has turned
And so many I have inhumed
But nobody is to blame
Yet staring across this barren wasted land
I feel new life will be born
Beneath the blood stained sand
Beneath the blood stained sand
With a dog or cat, prohibiting accident or illness you've got 10-20 years with them. Which is just enough time to make me forget how horrible I felt when the last one died.
I don't think I could handle getting attached to one knowing you've got 2-4 years on average. I'm too much of a pussy about my pets to handle that.
I am exactly the same, anon. I can't bear to lose frens anymore. That's why I only have plants today.
>How large must my apartment be to have a cat? I mean for the cat to be comfy, not simply survive.
Cats are not meant to live in apartments, like all felines they prefer to roam over large territories. If you're going to keep a domestic cat in an apartment, even one 'bred' for it, you are going to stifle its natural instincts.
Listen to
Everyone knows that you have to take the dog out, but strangely people pretend to forget that you have to take the cat out.
Alright, thanks. I will buy a house ASAP then because I really want a cat.
>buy a house ASAP
With a garden, please
Not only for the cat, but also for you too
You know : take the dog out, take the cat out and take the human out also
Gardens are great
Take it out for a walk, moron.
Depends on how that space is used. If you have some 1500 sq ft apartment that you have absolutely crammed with stuff then it's not going to be shit for the cat. If you dedicate shelves and posts and other shit for the cat, then even a 700 sq ft studio may suffice.
I don't think you understand the meaning of the word 'roam'.
I saw a documentary where they put trackers on house cats, these homies don't roam they walk 100m up the road, around the house, and back inside.
>I saw a documentary where they put trackers on house cats, these homies don't roam they walk 100m up the road, around the house, and back inside.
I saw a similar (or perhaps the same) documentary:
You're right, house cats raised in an urban environment typically roam ~100m from home. What you may not know is farm cats raised in rural environments will typically roam 2-3km from home.
Frick farms and rural idiots. Anything associated with reactionary chud ruralism must be destroyed. Viva de Ciudad.
Rural free roaming cats have a ~5 year average lifespan.
Almost every cat I owned growing up got eaten by something. My first cat, a pure white kitten I named "ball" (because I wasn't yet 3) got eaten by a tom who was trying to induce heat in his mother. Clown got eaten by a hawk, Rocket, Peach, Talon, Rusty, Fred, and Tilly all got eaten by coyotes, and Sarah got stepped on by a horse, and those are just the cats that were "mine", not every cat in our barn cat colony (most died gruesome deaths too, the sample of ones I named and felt possession of as a kit is pretty representative, though my cats never died of general misadventure like my sister's cat Ghost falling into the stock tank and then freezing to a gate after climbing out and dying of exposure overnight, leaving a lifelike tabby-cicle for us to find during morning animal chores), and I hadn't kept track of the ones that my Mom brought home after I left, but by fall of 2021, she had one oldster (like 11, lmao) that she kept in the house and no more barn cats. Of course, that couldn't stand, so she brought home a pair of kittens, and one died (got eaten by something) so she got a second pair, and then one got eaten by something so she got a third pair, and now she's down to two cats because coyotes or birds have eaten three of her remaining outdoor cats since June and so she brought in the last of the barn cats (which isn't even a year old) to live in her house, and of course the year old barn cat and the 11 year old former barn cat hate each other intensely and she's gotta keep 5 litter boxes for 2 cats because they shit in the sink if there's fewer than that, they've ruined her drapes fighting, and her carpet now has blood stains all over the place.
But she's tired of cats disappearing into the gullets of the local predators, so she's not letting them out any more.
Awful pets, I wish I didn't love them.
Alright let your cat live naturally, but remember it is also naturally a prey animal.
>You must stay indoors all day
>You may only go outside for a set period of time for 'exercise'
>When doing so you must stay close to home
I bet you loved the covid lockdowns.