I've given a lot of thought and consideration to this question myself, and I gotta say it kind of freaks me out. Animals have a lot of instinctual "knowledge". They instinctively "know" how to do so much. A baby horse is able to get up and run minutes after they're born, just out of instinct. Pigeons are able to discern location by some internal means that we don't completely understand.
It makes me wonder what humans have lost. What natural instincts have we lost and did our ancestors have more? Did neanderthals have a greater "Instinctual" intelligence than us?
> What natural instincts have we lost and did our ancestors have more? Did neanderthals have a greater "Instinctual" intelligence than us?
We’ve likely lost a fair bit, agriculture has likely filled our senses to some degree and we definitely have some physiological differences from our distant ancestors, the full extent will likely remain a mystery for the time being though.
I believe it's because modern humans have fetus tier brains, with it we are able to learn anything indefinitely but we can't do shit on our own, without being taught
This is the shit that keeps me up at night. Wondering if every human advancement would just look like termite emergence to some superior intelligence and can we even steer without making something entirely dysfunctional in the process.
Nothing. That's why they're made, because babies like stacking things to build structures.
Therefore, it's clearly a natural inclination for humans to want to build.
isn't it kind of weird that humans forget how to swim? we do it as infants and then lose the ability
but it makes me wonder if that's not psychological conditioning because we're taught to be afraid of water
I never had to learn how to swim, my father threw me in deep water one day and I doggy paddled out of it. It baffles me that some people freak out and drown.
no, i was forced to take swimming class because i naturally did sidestrokes like a normal person, instead of doing the insane thing of breaststrokes or whatever gay shit they do, because it turns out constantly trying to breach the water is tiring, you shouldnt being churning the water when swimming, thats a bad thing, its just physics
a human taking a shit is not like a bird building a nest. a human taking a shit is like a bird taking a shit.
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>a human taking a shit is like a bird taking a shit.
That was going to be my first analogy, but birds don't take shits like humans take shits.
in fact it's an almost entirely different process for birds and humans.
but fair enough, birds build nests with as much thought as they excrete waste.
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The main difference between a bird taking a shit and a human taking a shit is the human has some control over when and where they take a shit. So it is a behavior. In birds it's a process. They can't control it.
building a nest is also a behavior, in that the bird has some control over when and where they build the nest. But just like a human cannot refuse to take a shit for long, a bird cannot refuse to build a nest for long. The behavior is instinctive, and it cannot be refused.
This. Genetic memory, so to speak. Same reason cats are instinctively wary of dogs after millennia of being killed by them. Just comes naturally.
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Even crazier, when colonists first arrived in sub-Saharan Africa I think it was mentioned that termite mounds were the tallest structures they came across. Those things get whacky.
You should look at megapodes and how they build their nest mounds with volcanic ash in places with geothermal activity. or even build chambers in their nests where they take a bunch of leaves to get heat from the makeshift compost pile decomposing over time.
They are so adept at nest building that the parents don't even stick around to rear the chicks, they're the only bird species that pops out of the nest all by themselves ready to fly and face the world.
God gave them the instructions in their DNA
I've given a lot of thought and consideration to this question myself, and I gotta say it kind of freaks me out. Animals have a lot of instinctual "knowledge". They instinctively "know" how to do so much. A baby horse is able to get up and run minutes after they're born, just out of instinct. Pigeons are able to discern location by some internal means that we don't completely understand.
It makes me wonder what humans have lost. What natural instincts have we lost and did our ancestors have more? Did neanderthals have a greater "Instinctual" intelligence than us?
> What natural instincts have we lost and did our ancestors have more? Did neanderthals have a greater "Instinctual" intelligence than us?
We’ve likely lost a fair bit, agriculture has likely filled our senses to some degree and we definitely have some physiological differences from our distant ancestors, the full extent will likely remain a mystery for the time being though.
I believe it's because modern humans have fetus tier brains, with it we are able to learn anything indefinitely but we can't do shit on our own, without being taught
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This is the shit that keeps me up at night. Wondering if every human advancement would just look like termite emergence to some superior intelligence and can we even steer without making something entirely dysfunctional in the process.
Humans instinctually build to. Or seem to.
A baby likes stacking blocks as a toy. Boys love building forts.
>Likes stacking blocks
WHAT ELSE ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH BLOCKS YOU BUTT-FACED homosexual
Nothing. That's why they're made, because babies like stacking things to build structures.
Therefore, it's clearly a natural inclination for humans to want to build.
agree.
Building, speaking, and drawing are probably all instinctive in humans by now. Reading and writing may be also. Math. Jokes. Playing.
the same way you know how to take a shit
they don't know. It's just something their body does when the time comes.
isn't it kind of weird that humans forget how to swim? we do it as infants and then lose the ability
but it makes me wonder if that's not psychological conditioning because we're taught to be afraid of water
>we do it as infants and then lose the ability
nope
I never had to learn how to swim, my father threw me in deep water one day and I doggy paddled out of it. It baffles me that some people freak out and drown.
Infants have a diving reflex, not a swimming reflex.
I've lost a few babies trying this. It's all lies from the natural birth community.
Why did you keep trying after the first
Uhh, because you need to repeat experiments multiple times to account for random errors? Duh.
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no, i was forced to take swimming class because i naturally did sidestrokes like a normal person, instead of doing the insane thing of breaststrokes or whatever gay shit they do, because it turns out constantly trying to breach the water is tiring, you shouldnt being churning the water when swimming, thats a bad thing, its just physics
Bowel movement and building some complex structure is not the same thing
do you know how to take food and turn it into shit? do you know what chemicals to add, how much water to remove, how long to let it sit for?
This is an inane and nonsensical line of reasoning. Behaviour is not the same as the basic mechanics of the body.
maybe if you're a bird it is
defecation is a behavior
just like a bird building a nest, you have very little control over it and it doesn't require any thought.
a human taking a shit is not like a bird building a nest. a human taking a shit is like a bird taking a shit.
>a human taking a shit is like a bird taking a shit.
That was going to be my first analogy, but birds don't take shits like humans take shits.
in fact it's an almost entirely different process for birds and humans.
but fair enough, birds build nests with as much thought as they excrete waste.
The main difference between a bird taking a shit and a human taking a shit is the human has some control over when and where they take a shit. So it is a behavior. In birds it's a process. They can't control it.
building a nest is also a behavior, in that the bird has some control over when and where they build the nest. But just like a human cannot refuse to take a shit for long, a bird cannot refuse to build a nest for long. The behavior is instinctive, and it cannot be refused.
You wouldn't say that if you've seen what this man does with feces.
Epigenetic memory. Passed down in the blood
This. Genetic memory, so to speak. Same reason cats are instinctively wary of dogs after millennia of being killed by them. Just comes naturally.
Even crazier, when colonists first arrived in sub-Saharan Africa I think it was mentioned that termite mounds were the tallest structures they came across. Those things get whacky.
You should look at megapodes and how they build their nest mounds with volcanic ash in places with geothermal activity. or even build chambers in their nests where they take a bunch of leaves to get heat from the makeshift compost pile decomposing over time.
They are so adept at nest building that the parents don't even stick around to rear the chicks, they're the only bird species that pops out of the nest all by themselves ready to fly and face the world.