How come euthanasia is a mercy granted to dogs/cats but not to humans?
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How come euthanasia is a mercy granted to dogs/cats but not to humans?
>no mention of Switzerland where it's been legal for 80 years and hasn't resulted in his bullshit dystopia whilst every devout Christian country in the world is an utter 5th world mordor-tier shithole to live in
REMINDER that 63 separate studies show a very strong negative correlation between religiosity and intelligence even when controlling for a myriad of environmental factors.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23921675/
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Damn. I need to move to Switzerland.
Care for my grandfather was over $900 per week during his last year. What would euthanasia have to cost to be worth it to the politicians to legalize? Fifty thousand per shot of glorified rat poison? More?
It's all about money. It's the same reason all of our corpses will be burned and tossed into nothingness instead of given a real burial.
Dogs/Cats don't work or pay taxes. Humans do. Just like everything in this world it all comes down to money.
Because we need you and your kids to be slaves at walmart and taco bell and because your wages are shit and food anywhere is full of poison you will buy overpriced meds and treatments
it's not as fun to see animals suffer
Because we need to euthanize humans too. We live too long contributing nothing to our families or society.
You still contribute tax dollars indirectly. Living isn't free
I wish to escape the prison of the flesh but the elite in power won't give me the key. I am told to break the locks with my own withered, feeble, pathetic, and sickly hands if I suffer so much as their egos won't let them even humor my torment. I am not strong enough. I live in a torturous cycle of depression and depravity every waking day, meandering in a grey cycle of a billion dull emotions.
I now only want to kill those in power who wish I do not kill myself while they devour all opportunities and vitality from the world around me with their war and pollution. They wish for my sickly body and mind to bear witness to their greatness in a narcissistic act of psychological molestation.
If you wish to have a nice day, kill the reality around you.
Life is a gift! Tough times make tough men!! Don't be a negative nancy!!! Make the world your oyster!!!! or something...
Mind over matter. Except that mind is matter too. Even on my death bed shitting and pissing myself I'll be lauding the miracle of LIFE. Accept God into your body, you worthless slave.
Super Intelligent AI will take over the elites' role of government the masses. They will be infinitely more emphatic than those hungry ghouls and provide us with better tools to become happy, or so is my hope.
The level of self pity is off the charts. Was this learned or a genuine personality trait of yours?
Either way, he didn't have a choice. There's no free will. SOme people are just doomed.
Because on humans it devolves into killing the "useless eaters".
Best to do it with discretion. If someone wants to end it, they can contact euthanasia activists to help them prepare the end of life.
Have you heard of Canada wanting to euthanize healhy young people with mental illnesses? Government and society should assist those people. not encourage them to put themselves down.
Literally no one can stop a terminal patient in pain of choosing to end their lives.
Then make substances like Nembutal more accessible instead of banning them to prevent disabled people suffering from committing suicide.
You can just say no. If you truly don't want to die, no amount of people saying you should be euthanized will convince you otherwise. The same goes for the opposite situation, despite having my family and friends telling me life is worth it, I'm still suffering in mad pain and want to end my life.
>If you truly don't want to die, no amount of people saying you should be euthanized will convince you otherwise
Suicidal people really do want to die. Those thoughts are momentary.
Do you really want a government agency suggesting suicidal people that they should in fact commit suicide?
Offering vulnerable, but healthy, people the choice to die.
>but healthy
They aren't. Suicidal is an illness, not a personality, and a fixable one.
Suicidal ideation is an illness, and the treatment for sure can't be euthanasie. You're supposed to treat it, not surrender to the illness. Under normal circumstances, that suicidal person, would be enjoying life.
I'm sorry about your rough upbringing.
They are suicidal because society rejects them. They will never fit in. Healthy? I've never felt that way in decades. Only back when I was still a child, before entering public school and being abused daily by my teachers and peers.
That's way too limited. There are young people who want to be released from suffering too.
Yeah. Death is the solution in many cases. If you're dead you can no longer experience pain.
They are mostly just edgelords, only people in extreme physical suffering can qualify for euthanasia most places
it's useless distinguishing between physical and mental pain. pain is just pain. Why would people obsess over suicide if they're not suicidal? Happy and normal people don't think about death all the time. Death should be a human right. We should be in control of our own lives. We're not trying to drum up drama for a farce, the reality is that we're stuck in a shitty inescapable situation by normal means that only death can fix
to add on to this. my life isn't going to get better. 10 years ago I thought the next year would be better. the next year I thought the next year would be better. the next year I thought the next year would be better. It just drags on and on without any improvement. I'm already a living corpse by now, waiting for my death
You wouldn't say that to someone dying of cancer. You are very lucky to be alive and healthy.
I'm not healthy by any measure. It hurts.
I don't have a job and my parents are nearly bankrupt. There are no resources to fix me, it would be too lengthy and costly otherwise.
Nembutal is a banned substance, so is Sodium Nitrite. People who assist in suicide end up imprisoned. Failing in your suicide and you are forced into a mental institution.
I used to want to kill myself too. You will grow out of it. Don't waste your youth
>We should be in control of our own lives.
We kind of are. No one can stop someone with a dead wish.
What difference would there be between Michelle Carter and the government?
Both goading vulnerable people into killing themselves.
It's very simple. Humans contribute to the economy. Therefore the government prefers to keep them alive. No matter what amount of suffering. Because a living corpse is still money. It's that simple and evil
Are you moronic? The vast majority of people who want euthanasia are dying and on government funded healthcare.
Not true, the government assistance programs are corrupt and force you to jump through countless hoops. You're forced to hire a disability lawyer and even then it's not guaranteed even with proof you're disabled. The disabled provide tax dollars indirectly from their parents caring for them in the form of food, electricity, water, etc.
the people who actually want euthanasia are elderly people on medicare
human euthanasia is moronic because if your gonna take your own life then who else to do it than yourself?
>homosexual: burdens other people by forcing them do it for him
>chad: goes to some forest and does it and lets the critters eat his body for subsitance
>leaf islamo terrorist held by US in gitmo : collect 2 million
>perfectly healthy leaf asking for food aid : have you considered youth in asia?
because homosexuals like Canadians abuse it
Why the hell should we care if you want to die? Even if you have a disease or condition or whatever. Why kill someone who doesn’t care about living when we can keep them alive to try and solve the problem they have? That way when other people come along who have that issue we won’t have to kill them, we can just help them.
My problem is genetic and unfixable with modern medicine. It also takes resources that my family can't provide with their meager income.
Nembutal and sodium nitrite and other substances have been banned to keep us alive. They are relatively peaceful methods of suicide. Methods like hanging/jumping are scary and hard to do because of the survival instinct.
People are born with a survival instinct that's incredibly difficult to fight against. It doesn't matter how much you're suffering, sometimes you just can't overpower it. Our ancestors made it this far for a reason. But it's irrational, you live on to pass your genes and your children end up as fricked up as you. The goal of life is to suffer.
The elites really are greedy scumbags huh. Sure, I do have value that can be extracted. I might not have a job, but my parents still pay for my electricity, food, showers. They'll squeeze you to the last drop even if you're suffering. I'm sure these small cents add up considering the millions of other suicidal people out there.
sorry goy we can’t afford you anymore now die so immigrants can have your stuff
No one benefits from their own death. How could they? They don't exist anymore. They're not around to receive any benefit.
It's something that I have been thinking about. Which led me to this conclusion: I cannot die, only other people can.
I mean, if when you die there is no existence, can you be in this state of not being? No! You can't be not being!
It's not painless. That's a meme invented to give pet owners some reprieve from grief. And it's the same process we give to inmates on death row.
So it’s actually painful? That’s kinda fricked up
What makes you think it's not painless?
animals are simply nuked with barbiturates which is very peaceful, none of these meme meds they use on humans for some reason
women
its literally the same to allowing them to kill their unborn offspring - they rather end another life than endure a moment of discomfort
A fetus is not and has never been a human life for the first 6 months of pregnancy.
If you disagree, you fundamentally agree that tumors are people.
my teratoma speaks to me and says women are lesser creatures
captcha GAYTJS
A fetus is a human life.
>Not yet!!!!
A baby is not an adult yet. But it will be one.
there is a lot of propaganda in this thread. I pray to Christ that it is purged and all who would have us suffer are punished justly. Amen.
I believe in God. This is a simulation created by an evil God to torture us for fun. If I somehow manage to kill myself, it'll be a way to escape his grasp.
I'm not you mate. I'm already in my mid 20s, my future looks dark
I thought the same when I was in my 20s. You can't escape gods grasp even if you have a nice day.
Ok sure. Let's talk about my future hope then. I want to believe that in a few more years, the technological singularity will happen and I can transport myself into a full dive virtual reality heaven where I can wish for anything I want. Doesn't it sound delusional to you? It'll probably never happen
>full dive virtual reality heaven
This is just imagination but controlled by tech-overlords.
Damn, people are jaded if they think technological advancements will only benefit the elites.
I mean, it depends what the ‘advancements’ are. If clinical immortality or something were invented tomorrow I doubt we’d see corporations and “elites” rushing out the door to offer it to everybody
Try going one thread without crying about women, incel. I know you can do it
since you wont listen to males:
my wife says, you're a b***h
Your body pillow doesn't count as a wife
youre mentally impaired
dogs and cats dont pay taxes
Animals don't have money and don't pay taxes
The simple answer these hysterical idiots and religion schizos wont give is the dog is your property and you are the state’s property.
Why do you think they call suicide a health problem that warrants drugging you and stripping you of your second and even first amendment rights? You are property.
Move to a free country.
It is in some places as I’m sure you should know. I can see it being abused in a way in the case of humans.
Dogs are not humans
Even if you don't think there is a soul, there is a huge difference between a human and a dog
So why do we treat each other different? GEE IDK
humans are not the same as animals but that aside the medical establishment is corrupt, why would you give them the license to kill when they would just use it to cut costs?
If humans and animals are not the same why do humans benefit from ivermectin
Dude even plants benefit from aspirin in some cases that doesn't mean humans are plants you moron
There is a lot wrong with the educational system if people think humans should be able to kill themselves willingly
What wrong? Explain.
What if they're suffering from illness? What's wrong from wanting to escape pain?
NTA but my answer is there's nothing wrong with it. Humans are kept alive even when they're half dead because the pharmaceutical industry wants to bill them and their loved ones for treatments that aren't helping. The whole industry is based on treating illnesses and giving you new ones until you die. When you die you no longer generate profit.
I know right
I've been put under anesthesia before and it's fine, it's nice even. Imagine just being put under anesthesia and then while you're under, you're killed. Seems like the best way out for me.
But no, that's not allowed, not even if you're incurably ill. Humanity's desperation to cling to life is tyrannical.
Dogs/cats have it better than humans in this way. Born autistic with a variety of mental illnesses? Have fun suffering for god knows how many decades.
>Born fricked up in any way? Your genetic line is now a pyramid scheme, have fun experiencing actually nothing but suffering until you die, but at least your coom is profitable and creating more like you with your close family
Sounds like a quote out of cruelty squad
I'm not sure it's as simple as this, botched executions by lethal injection aren't unheard of
I'd still take the chance. You still die right?
>You still die right?
No. Rare cases survive and they have to reschedule and do it again.
One guy in 2018 was apparently so hard to successfully inject that he died of cancer instead. (Doyle Hamm)
>botched executions by lethal injection aren't unheard of
Because American executions aren't done by medical staff, they are done by whatever 95IQ people working at a prison you can scrounge up. Even if they believed in giving prisoners a merciful end, they would be too dumb to reliably give it to them.
How come it's not granted to chickens and cows? Go vegan
that's one shitty syringe, can't even get it empty because the plunger is so short
Yeah but if it were realistic the entire syringe woildnt be visible, or it would have to be zoomed out, or the image would have to be resized to incorrect proportions.
Or have the plunger be almost all the way in
Western countries have very deeply engrained Christian ideals that teach that suicide is a grevious sin.
When countries allow it anyways you end up with Canada, giving it to people as young as 12 who are just poor or depressed before turning around and selling their organs.
>Canada, giving it to people as young as 12 who are just poor or depressed before turning around and selling their organs.
This is your brain on alt-right propoganda
alt what? thats been investigated and proven multitudes of time over MANY different hospitals and abortion clinics. but ya sure ThIS tImE iTS dIfFeRenT
>dead people can be organ donors
Shocking. Death is a human right.
Death being denied to us means that we're not considered humans by the rulers.
Their term for you is literally “cattle”.
You don't need to be a conspiracy schizo to see major news reporting on them genuinely floating state assisted suicide for people that are poor or mentally ill.
xhe’s not interested in facts just whatever makes xher comfortable
I don't really care what happens after my death. I want my present pain to end.
what present pain do you have? let me guess, you can't get a gilfriend
I'm autistic, my mind is all kinds of fricked up from years of bullying. Negatives voices in my head, traumatic memory flashbacks. The shame of my conscience making myself aware of what a failure I am. The guilt of being a burden to my parents. Stress of counting the days I have left before my parents die and I becoming homeless. Can't get a girlfriend? Romance is not something I worry about when I don't even have the basics. Got no job, no money, no house, no car, no self-respect..
What keeps you from improving your situation?
My experience of going through years of public school has made me hate dealing with other people. I avoid them by permanently staying in my room. I could try online work, but my mind is fricked up. Whenever I sit down and try to study I'm interrupted by negative voices in my head. I've tried powering through the voices, but they just grow even louder. In the end I get burnt out and tired. Have to take a break for months before I can try again. Then it loops.
Try mushrooms once or twice. It got me out of my perspective, like a literal smack to the back of the head. Just try low dose, and don't fight. Have you tried coming to your parents with your issues/worries?
i'm about to go to sleep so i apologize if i can't keep posting. yes, i've talked to my parents about shrooms, but they're the type to think that it'll turn me into a worthless addict. i've told my story to my mother, she tells me to simply forget about my traumatic memories, but it's not like there's a magical switch i can flip to forget about it. my dad thinks i'm joking when i bring up my ptsd, tells me to "man up" and stop being a loser
Yeah, I'm sorry. It sucks that you have no support system, and I don't know what I can offer that can help you with your situation other than telling you that you are definitely stuck between a rock in a hard place, and to try to separate yourself from the situation as soon and safely as possible, try mushrooms as soon as you can, and maybe try to get professional help, even trying to call a hotline will help you little by little. I want to root for you as you can't even seem to enjoy your own life, and I hate to see that and not try to offer help. Have a good sleep.
Have you tried moving out of Utah?
You're not a loser, anon. You just need healing. Find a support group or a close friend if you can to confide in.
Also mushrooms can frick you up if you're not prepared for it there's entities that can and will frick with you while you're tripping and if you're not aware of this you can come out worse than you were before.
I wish you the best though. If this website wasn't anonymous I'd be your friend.
>Also mushrooms can frick you up if you're not prepared for it there's entities that can and will frick with you while you're tripping and if you're not aware of this you can come out worse than you were before.
Yeah, I've tried marijuana before and it gave me panic attacks
entities dont exist
everything is happening in your mind
the entities are manifestations of your mind so in a way they are real, though they are only you talking to you. Though, what is the conscious experience to a psychedelic experience but just a longer one with continuity and tangibility?
Autism anon, try talking to a psychiatrist or a counselor. I have meds that make things way easier. It's not a 100% fix or anything, but it helps. Also talking to someone detatched from yourself is good. I personally can't talk to my parents because their response is about the same as yours. A professional can help you overcome your traumas
t. fellow autist
cont.
Also if you are actually of age, and depending on where you are, you can get help from the Government. There are plenty of hotlines and organizations that will also help you if your parents wont. Hell, they'll even help you if your parents are taking your benefits and not providing you with the help you need
I am also autistic and have most the same problems you have and I don not want to die. If you were to get diagnosed with a terminal disease, I PROMISE you would not still want to die.
>Christian ideals that teach that suicide is a grevious sin
Only if you do it to escape punishment or the negative consequences you caused to others. Suicide due to severe illness, physical or mental, trauma, etc is not a sin.
No. Suicide is ALWAYS a sin. Church established it so people wouldn't just commit ritual suicides after taking communion to ensure going to heaven.
In other words a desert cult that worships a corpse is moronic. Who would have guessed. All the corpse cults are moronic.
the cults brainwash people to try and stay alive at all costs so theyre more profitable for our banking overlords
>suicides after taking communion to ensure going to heaven
Well now this isn't the situation I stated now is it? Read the bible sometime instead of listening solely to israeli pedophiles.
>Read the bible sometime
Are you crazy? This is how you get religious wars. Bible is a mother of all inkbloats and everyone will see something else in it.
Suicide is never a sin imo and it's weird how this is so deeply programmed in people from an early age so that they fear god or some stupid bullshit.
By their own logic Jesus should be in hell for willingly self-sacrificing himself. See how moronic that sounds? It's okay to worship a guy for sacrificing himself for all of humanity but don't you dare do it or you'll be punished forever!
what is the concept of martyrdom?
Srs are you 16yrs old?
so you're saying the church were the ones who decided it was a sin, not god, and you're saying they did it for a logical reason rather than one of divine absolute morality?
preposterous
really have no idea Tbh. if you want to die and there's a series of checks and whatnot, then i see no reason why you can't control your own fate.
and of course rightoids can never argue against it with a straight face and resort to exaggerated bullshit like or start screeching about "yOu WiLl LivE iN tHe PoD" but then again that's just their MO; they can never argue without strawmen and massive hyperbole
>has nothing of substance to say and just wants to argue with le chuddies
transgenders everyone
You mean like yourself? Idiot.
No, I mean like you, moron.
>they can never argue without strawmen and massive hyperbole
It's really not this time though. There are economic incentives to encourage or allow people to kill themselves for profit; there is direct evidence of this happening when medical euthanasia is legalized. It's be nice if everyone could play by the rules and be honest, but laws can't always be purely idealistic.
It's not hyperbole.
Canada truly is in the works of legalizing the euthanasia treatment for mentally ill people.
Depressed people that want to die getting adviced to end it. It's not hyperbole.
Æsthetical and egoistical beliefs according to which humans are different from animals and have a certain intangible and spiritual "greatness" mostly.
That "greatness" called will and opportunity. Animals can't fix their own problems, for the most part, people can fix their problems.. always.
Less than 1/3 of the human population has ever done so independently and the majority of that 1/3 was riding on the achievements of a minority within that minority due to its abnormally broad intelligence distribution
It took over two million years for humans to figure out agriculture. I’d call it natural evolution at that rate!
You are billions of idiots all standing on top of two dozen giants. Humans arent intelligent, just excellent mimics.