Guard dog for a beginner

Hello Wauf, I am looking through the internet and most of recommendations are Doberman, GSD, Rottweiler, Mastiffs, etc. All of these seem too much to handle for someone who has never raised a dog. Are there no guard dog breeds for beginners?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Having a dog is much more expensive than just getting a fricking camera.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      And way more effective unless you have a lawyer on retainer and the police department riding your dick

      Remember, millionaire robbed = entire residence dusted for prints, scoured for evidence. You get robbed = we’ll look into it.

      Just living near dog owners significantly reduces your statistical risk of being a victim of any violent crime.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just pointing out that there is a difference between a guard dog and a watch dog.
    I have a small lapdog breed that couldn't guard shit but he's alert as frick and doesn't let people or animals wander my property without letting me know something if out there. He's not a physical threat to anyone but he functions as the best alarm I've known. He even alerts me when he only just smells another animal or person on my property

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you can’t handle those dogs you are better off getting something that will bark and then use a gun if someone breaks into your house

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guard dogs are dumb. Just get a dog that will alert you of someone breaking into your house and train it to sleep inside the house without making a mess.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I was a kid there was a house a few doors down with a St. Bernard or something like that who was always leashed on the porch, we'd see him almost any hour of the day.
    I thought it was funny how the dog knew exactly where the sidewalk crossed over to the property, and I could control how much he bared his teeth by putting my toe right up to the line and inching it forward. As long as you were behind the line, the dog could see and wouldn't react, just watch.

    So one time I was walking up the street and I saw this dog ahead of me, a few doors up from where it lived. I was a bit nervous to approach because we were scared of him but he was *completely* docile. He let me pet him and take him gently by the collar and lead him and turn him around with no resistance at all.
    I actually felt bad because he seemed so bored and emotionless, it was kind of pathetic. I wanted to let him wander around, but then I thought it might be dangerous and I had to take him back.

    So I walked him back and without entering the property told him to go on the porch and he just lazily obeyed and laid down peacefully like he didn't plan on going anywhere. Never at any point during all of this did he whine or growl or pull or run or even focus on me really.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a nice little story.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Great Dane. They're big and scary with deep booming voices. Warning: They're completely worthless if the intruder enters the yard and will want to be his friend. Unironically all bark and no bite breed.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    sauce ?

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Socializing a protective mastiff breed is very basic dog training, if you can't do that it means you don't have the time and resources to raise any dog.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it true that friendly dogs like Golden retrievers are friendly to strangers and even criminals?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Almost any dog is going to bark its head off if some weird stranger comes around when they're not supposed to be there. Not all will bite, but almost any dog will bark.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't. Guard dogs aren't pets. Work with a local PD volunteering with their K9 units for at least a year. Then, if you still think you have to have a guard dog, and only then should you seriously consider it.

    Sad bit is, any dog can disobey. And they will. And a guard dog might decide to as well. That's on you when it happens. Unless it's just going to be let out indoors when you're away, just don't. And if that's the life of that creature, only allowed out when no one's around, you're going to have to keep that dog locked away in a backroom or crate when ever there is company. Friends, family, kids, people you have over for deliveries or services. Eventually you will frick up, or the dog will somehow get out, or better yet: the dog does his job and you go to jail over it.

    That kind of life is not for 99.99% of people. And honestly, the fact you asked on 4chinz of all places tells me you aren't either.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go rescue one of the Pete's brothers!

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand the whole "hurdur guard dogs for expert dog trainers only" Wauf meme.

    I adopted some ugly shar pei/rottie mutt mix and he'd been a chill guard dog given I feed him good food and talk him for walks. Not much training needed he understands who's my friend and is naturally suspect of strangers until I show him otherwise. Pretty chill dog.

    Still a gun would kill him and I don't expect him to attack on command. He listens to me is what's important. Pick any dog breed you find agreeable and put in effort to train the dog to listen and love you first, then focus on guarding instincts cause those happen naturally in any breed.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      So said many people a month before their gard dawg mauled the mailman.

      Huskies and most herding dogs have no guarding instincts whatsoever. They just sniff the robbers nuts.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        My dog barked at the mailman, but because I've trained his recall well enough he stops and won't attack. Training dogs to recall isn't especially unique to attack-dog training.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand why it might be bad for a person who doesn't know what they're doing to be responsible for a large, powerful dog that has aggression baked into its genetic code. Are you braindead? You got a random dog and it's chill so that's just always what happens? You're a fricking moron and you have no business giving dog advice to anyone.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that'd be bad if you don't got the basics down. My neighbors have such a trash large dog but they don't even have it trained to sit or yield or settle down on command. But if they could master the basics that dog would probably be a decent enough guard dog just with that.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Watch dogs and Guard dogs are different things. Watch dogs are great and anybody can do it. Guard dogs are trained to actually bite and incapacitate introduces and assailants.

      A good watch dog is mostly sufficient to deter most robbers.

      A guard dog needs lots and lots of training or he'll bite your friends or new gf when they come over and won't let go no matter how much you scream drop it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watch dogs
        What are some good watch good breeds?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whatever dog is intimidating, just don't train it to bite or attack people.

          >Watch dogs and Guard dogs are different things.
          No they are basically the same thing. Guard dogs are mostly a deterrent, a big dog that growls and barks. That doesn't mean they wouldn't bite an aggressive intruder, but that's not what they're for and they don't need bite training.

          You're talking about personal protection dogs, they are the ones that need special training because they are supposed to bite and release on command.

          Wrong, they're completely different things. Sure brandishing a gun will deter most people but it can still be used to kill should it come to that.

          Guard dogs are personal protection dogs for your house, trained to bark at people encroaching on your property and to attack people that cross the border.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watch dogs and Guard dogs are different things.
        No they are basically the same thing. Guard dogs are mostly a deterrent, a big dog that growls and barks. That doesn't mean they wouldn't bite an aggressive intruder, but that's not what they're for and they don't need bite training.

        You're talking about personal protection dogs, they are the ones that need special training because they are supposed to bite and release on command.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just pick up any dog that's suspicious of strangers

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. It's not that there are no breeds, but more that guard dogs and inexperienced owners just don't go together. It would be like giving a baby an IED to play with.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then which dog should I get that can maybe guard a house?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm telling you you should not do that.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then what should I do if I want my house to be guarded?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Buy a gun.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not a gun country.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cameras, fence, alarm system, don't live in the ghetto. It's trivial for any criminal to kill a dog, so it's basically just a biological alarm system anyways.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Either guard your house like a normal person with locks, fences, security alarms or hire a professional to raise and train a guard dog for you professionally so you don't end up getting a dog that will eat your friends

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            literally just buy a friendly big dog breed who will bark excitedly when strangers approach. The loud deep bark is 90% of the deterrent effect. Actually getting a guard breed and training it properly is 10x more work and 10x more danger for 1.1x more effect. It's not worth it, and also now your dog is an emotionally suppressed living weapon instead of a proper companion you can play and do normal dog stuff with.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            A fence, a security system, cameras, a lock, a baseball bat, a gun. Like

            Cameras, fence, alarm system, don't live in the ghetto. It's trivial for any criminal to kill a dog, so it's basically just a biological alarm system anyways.

            said, a criminal willing to break into your house is willing to kill your dog. The most a dog is going to be useful for in any kind of dangerous situation is as an alarm. Or maybe sometimes a deterrent, like

            literally just buy a friendly big dog breed who will bark excitedly when strangers approach. The loud deep bark is 90% of the deterrent effect. Actually getting a guard breed and training it properly is 10x more work and 10x more danger for 1.1x more effect. It's not worth it, and also now your dog is an emotionally suppressed living weapon instead of a proper companion you can play and do normal dog stuff with.

            said as well, having a large dog with a deep bark will also deter a lot of weak criminals.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Any criminal with an IQ score is going to chuck grapes/poisoned bait over the fence one night prior, after casing your house and checking for barking

              Then while you're at the vet they'll rob you

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ignore everyone else's advice. There's only one hero breed that can protect you. No training required; it's in their DNA. Bonus points if you have kids.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              pitbull hands wrote this

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wait... Hands? Are they evolving? I'm I going to get choked out by a pitbull?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                steal your wallet while they tear out your throat

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guard dogs are a social cancer and the moral equivalent of putting landmines on your porch.

    One day every breed associated with guarding and stranger aggression will be forcibly exterminated and people will be allowed to kill your dog in self defense while on your property. Just a few more dead boomers and we're there.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >your property
      >self defense
      lmao imma put you in the meat grinder if you come on my property

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