The pet and animal community.
Do you agree or disagree?
Aren't you only supposed to feed it things that are the same size as the distance between its eyes?
pacman frogs can eat basically anything
its gay and retarded
in one if his videos he cuts it so he can chop off a frogs leg so it can fit in another's mouth
i understand needing feeder animals when starting out with snakes and shit but this is just for sadists and vorefags
Yeah, i'm probably not going to eat ze bugs.
People were just discussing the concept of eating bugs among themselves. Nobody forces you to eat them. ''I WON'T EAT THE BUGS'' is like a pavlov reaction from meme-brained people. People criticize vegans for the same kind of behaviour but at least they have arguments.
Their arguments are also “because, ok, you bad” so eg I don’t respect them. The only vegans I respect are the ones who think animals are reincarnated humans or will reincarnate as humans.
Have these animals been bred to be docile?
Hamsters are fucking vicious and regularly cannibalize each other/their own babies in capitivity. They're just dumb r-selected vermin.
>Hamsters don't care that their brethen are being eaten
>Don't even try to avoid the frog
>Don't even try to fight when being eaten, just squeal until they die
If they're this stupid, they deserve to end up as Frog shit.
>hamsters outnumber frog 40 to 1
>they do nothing
What is the problem here?
disagree, thats mean
A lot of coping and seething from vermin fags. I say this person who like mice and hamsters a lot more than reptiles, and has no interest in getting reptiles expect maybe a turtle or tortoise.
They eat fish, that bible doesn’t consider meat.
>There are copies of the bible everywhere and you are rarely more than a mile from a church
These are manmade and even christians have differing beliefs among themselves. If you're born in the wrong country there isn't a chance you become a christian. God needs to do a better job.
Hey god, please give me a sign, please let it stand out in a way that can't be mistaken for a prank or a mass delusion
Neither do I have a reason to care about your opinions. If god really gave a shit, why would he specifically inform you and not me?
>And you’re an intellectually dishonest egoist that’s too insecure to admit your opinions are arbitrary.
my opinions are arbitrary
now what, retard
Lots of people live healthy and longer without ever eating beef or rarely eating beef.
God never told you anything, that's just your schizophrenia speaking. Why do you think so many people have conflicting ideas about god?
>they are just picking the parts of religion they personally like and ignoring the rest
Heh, ironic, that's exactly what religious people do
You don’t need beef. Studies found that beef eaters and vegans have different problems but similar mortality. Fish eaters are the ones who lived longer. Anyway I was never advocating veganism, if you red the other posts you would see that plants + insects are environmentally superior to vegan. Read the thread instead of just preaching your religion on unrelated threads
>Do you agree or disagree?
I agree that Asians and Pajeets are soulless bug people that value no life, not even that of their own kind.
And i agree that garden gnometube is downright satanic for allowing all that frog/animal torture and shit like the neon painted dead pet fish reanimated via stopmotion but censors light nudity or bad words. Fuck modern society.
>Without a god above you all morals are unprovable opinions.
With a god above you all morals are still unprovable opinions. Religious people can't successfully communicate with god so even if there's one, they just create their own morals and pretend god agrees. If there's a god he probably doesn't give a shit and sees all of this as an ant farm that he can passively watch while beating his meat.
Whatever you mutilated garden gnomedick simpleton. If you need a sky fairy to dictate how to be altruistic you're inherently admitting you're a selfish fake gay.
Modern humans have access to excess of calories, obesity is a bigger problem than starvation. Eating cow for survival made sense for old time humans like the tribe mentioned but modern humans don’t need that, it is a purely luxury item.
>Source: it's a convenient way for me to justify my habits
everyone criticizing this better be vegan
well you don't have to be vegan to find shit like factory farming just as inhumane, if not worse
these videos are obviously related to people who are turned up by vore, me as a vore lover myself know it
Nice, I wasn't down on TW3 at release, but seeing in-game footage of this Slann wrecking these Skaven really changes my mind.
They even got the sync kills to work.
People who own animals that require live feed are huge gays and psychopaths, except for insect owners,i couldn't give a shit about insects fucking up other insects, but if you feed your spider or scorpion or fucking whatever a live mouse or something your a crazy attention seeking gay too
big cope by very obvious rodent fag. Most of the live eaters of rodents are snakes.
There is showing a standard live feeding to show how it work and then you have this stuff which is borderline animal abuse so sadist get their jollies watching animals kill each other.
Pretty incredible how little fucks youtube jannies seem to give about that kind of content
OP guy is going to fucking murder some chick and feed her to a python at some point, guy is a wacko
Besides the creepy looking mask, I noticed this last night as well, isn't this training the snakes to bite people in the face? Also there is something off about those toys, who is this anime thing? Is it relevant to eating shit? Any weeb here that can confirm?
I just did some research. The character is called Tsuyu and has frog superpowers.
The light hearted music choice reminds me of this
What's the music that plays during this guy's videos?
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
I hope they get put in a park with a mega bear, with no weapons, food, water or help. It’s the same thing. I genuinely hope all defenceless animals get justice. Scumbags.
>youtube home filled with nothing but animal fatal accidents, phone harassing, torture videos and vore
I'll have to delete both Google and Youtube History once again
Literally the only thing that makes live feeding not ok is filming it - for your own amusement or that of others
As soon as the act is recorded it becomes perverse
Filming it is a necessary evil, the frog wouldve refused to it had a camera not been filming it
This reinforces my belief that there is something wrong with people who buy pets that require live feeding.
The physiogomy always checks out. Greasy looking dudes
even bugs to a lizard?
Less fucked up, but anyone who feeds live vertebrates to their pet is fucked in the head.
sob invertebrates are fine?
bit spinist of you
I'm convinced there's something inherently very wrong with these people and they're both a social and genetic detriment to society. Not just because they're obviously sadists but because they have 0 inherent sense of family, community or culture. A normal person recognizes that a hamster or rat is a more complex creature and also much closer to us genetically than a snake or frog. Meanwhile a herpfag's brain is so deranged that they'll feed hundreds of these creatures that are practically our cousins to some dumb slimy log that isn't even in the same class as us.
These videos are not that far from the shit groups like Peta spread around but are you aware how many mice/rats the city you live in kills? And worse, these animals are smart so you can’t just use some quick painless killing method, if it kills fast they eventually notice and stop falling for it. They need to use slow killing methods so the animal get sick and die too slowly for them to realize what caused it. All this is necessary to avoid diseases from spreading. There is an alternative that makes them infertile but not every place adopted that.
>other people do bad thing to survive so me do bad thing for fun is ok
Is it really bad? Another human is closer to you than any rat. Does killing a human to survive is bad? Pigs are pretty intelligent too. Why eat pigs if we could eat chicken instead? Or we could go on a plant and bugs diet since mammals and birds are smart as well. We don’t need to eat them to survive, we do for pleasure.
This is an English language website. Perhaps somewhere else is more your speed.
Not an argument. We eat meat for pleasure, we don’t need to eat it for survival, we could live on a diet of plants and bugs and it would be even better for the planet than vegan diet (and animals get killed to produce vegan food anyway)
It was not even intended to be an argument. Fuck off.
So you admit you have no argument at all and just resort to cussing like an ill behaved kid.
I don’t see the point in attempting to argue with someone who is trying to divert the topic to “but what farming animals for food?” in a bizarre false equivalence. Again, fuck off.
You think it is bad to live feed but don’t want to touch on other uses of mammals for human pleasure. I have no problem with animals for meat or living feed even if I never had any pet that required living mammals or birds.
I dont eat a cow live. I don't have to wrestle with a cow and hurt myself when going and eating an already dead cow is easier and less harmful to me.
Do you get it yet you fucking tard.
Not the point. You eat cow because it is tasty not because you need it to live. You can get all you need from other sources of food without requiring to eat a mammal. “practically our cousins” according to
Eating a cow is dove for pleasure, not survival unless you are one of those African tribes who live on their milk and blood. As modern humans in a civilized society we have a wide range of options for nutrition and could get all our nutritional need without having to resort to eating “our cousins”. Personally I think calling them “our cousins” just because they are mammals pretty dumb. Maybe this could be applied to apes but some apes will kill and eat other apes as a normal part of their diet.
I'll eat bugs if they actually start mass producing them on the level of beef.
You could raise bugs like black soldier fly on food waste. This way not only you will be producing food but also reducing waste and generating fertilizer that could be used to grow tomatoes or some other plant. So you would be reducing pollution due to waste, reduce pollution associated with food production and not killing any mammal. I don’t care about the last one but the first two makes this way better from an environmental point of view than vegetarian or vegan. Vegan might cause a lower impact than beef but bugs can have a negative impact instead of lower impact. Personally I think people are still not ready to the idea of eating bugs but they could be used for animal feed and as production scales start being incorporated in processed foods and suplements.
>EAT THE BUGS
Go back to 4chan
>4chan is when you don't eat the bugs
4chan is when someone makes legitiate arguments and you respond with some retarded ass meme as if you're some kind of brave rebel for refusing to eat bugs (just like 99% of the current population)
Nobody here said anything about forcing you to eat bugs you drooling retard
>4chan is when someone makes legitiate arguments and you respond with some retarded ass meme as if you're some kind of brave rebel for refusing to eat bugs (just like 99% of the current population)
Like you bringing up a buzzeword like 4chan because your pride got hurt? Excellent work genius now the entire topic will revolve around that.
>Nobody here said anything about forcing you to eat bugs you drooling retard
Not the guy you were arguing with you silly goose.
Of course I'm responding with a buzzword when I'm arguing against buzzwords. I'm not going to write an essay when there's barely anything to respond to.
look, I'm just not gonna eat them
Most humans are stupid annoying gays who I'd push in front of a bus for pleasure if I had the chance. Meanwhile my rats are friendly, soft and nice.
Personally I don't think anything that requires live feeding should be kept by anyone who doesn't own a public zoo.
I don't think it should be banned, but I will go out of my way to avoid such ""people"" and recommend others do too.
If a praying mantis can eat dead stuff then a spider will absolutely.
There's literally no animal that absolutely requires to eat live stuff and cannot be trained to eat dead stuff, unless it's wild caught and even then it's a retarded move to keep a wild caught animal.
>armchair psychologists pretending all herp owners jerk off to their pets eating other animals
>literal retard tier "mammal better than reptile so reptile eating mammal bad"
You gays are so retarded. You have a good point about these chink channels abusing animals and then completely ruin it by attacking regular pet owners who don't do anything wrong.
There's a difference between live feeding mice and live feeding robot-tier insects like crickets. It's not black and white you autists.
Nail on the head
if you own a reptile pet you are probably a freak
this bro feels the kinship of the aryan volk with a fuckin' gerbil
You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think most people empathize more with mammals than they do with reptiles and amphibians.
Should be a board banner
>a hamster or rat is a more complex creature and also much closer to us genetically than a snake or frog.
That's part of the appeal.
i agree mostly but don't shit on reptiles man they're pretty cool too and they get fucked up by being with many hamsters as well
really petstores oughta ban this kind of mass buying
although i wouldn't be surprised if those freaks would just a couple some from many stores and start breeding them
This. It's one thing in nature when a mouse has a fair chance to outrun a snake. Find a hole in the ground or something.
When it's fed to a snake in a cage it's kinda fucked up. Additionally there is a difference between feeders and hamsters. Feeding pets to other pets is fucked up.
The people who don't understand the difference are fucked up people
Live feeds are necessary for people who are starting with snakes.
People that keep snakes are weird and I'm tired of pretending they aren't.
How do hamsters survive for so long as a species?
>Live feeds are necessary for people who are starting with snakes
you are retarded
Blatantly incorrect. I have been feeding my sand boa frozen mice for over a decade. She is the first and only snake I have ever had.
I think it's good. Teaches them to eat wild mice that try to eat their feed/eggs.
It has to be actual psychos that sublimated their need to torture small animals into the (barely) socially acceptable act of "live-feeding" their "pet".
worst part of this subhuman video is those frogs dont require live feeding. double easy if you consider insects not live feeders.
I am keeping an ant colony and I feed them sometimes with living flies and cockroaches
My question, is it really fine for the frog to eat rodents like this?
frogs will eat anything that moves
If you look closely, you can make out that the Hamster shat itself.
Kek. Its funny but I feel bad, I know these vids are borderline animal abuse but that pussy ass hamster was probably the only smart one out of the 40.
This video above is by far the most fucked up live feeding, its a bunch of Tegus ripping apart hamsters like T-Rexes from Jurassic Park, its interesting to watch the brutality of nature once in a while, but seems weird that people do this regularly.
>its interesting to watch the brutality of nature once in a while, but seems weird that people do this regularly.
It's funny because they'll use the "muh nature" argument when you criticize their sadistic garbage. I'm guessing they make a lot of money for YouTube because these channels aren't going anywhere.
>Sorry for too much words but.
I'm ok with people feeding with live animals. The problem comes when its done in excessive quantities and when the feeder animal is not the correct species or anything similar to what the predator eats in the wild. Also, the problem with this videos is that it puts both of the animals under unnecessary stress, just for sadistic and morbid entertainment, rather than anything useful or valuable. Its like saying "Hey unit 731 experiments got us valuable info, like, now we know what happens when you shoot a pregnant woman in the face 3 times!"
Bullfrogs don't eat hamsters in the wild and its never likely that they would be surrounded by 40 of them. The frog was likely under stress the entire time, the frog knew that if all of those hamsters were smart, they could gang up on him and fuck him up. It clearly did not need to eat multiple hamsters, they don't eat that many prey in nature unless they are massively lucky, those Hamsters are just being killed for nothing. Also Hamsters are not social animals, they like to be alone like an introverted weeb, I can imagine this must be living hell for them, not counting the doomguy frog next to them.
The asshole who runs the channel likely breeds his own Hamsters for this purpose, the worst part is that he likely keeps them in terrible conditions, because I highly doubt they have their own space.
Most animals that are live fed can be fed frozen and thawed food anyways. I can't think of any species that'd need exclusively live food, even a praying mantis will eat non-live stuff
do spiders eat dead stuff?
Yes, they’re not that picky.
They need to wrap it up in silk to be able to eat it.
They also need to see/sense it moving to realize it's food.
I have to feed my weasels, they can't just get all the nutrients they need out of pellet food. Yes, I could avoid it and shorten their lifespan by about two years, but if it means I get to spend more time with my adorable fuzzy noodles feeding them rabbits and rats once in a while isn't bad.
For me it's that one vid of the Monitor lizard beating the rat against the wall over and over again, reptiles are just, for lack of a better word, cold blooded when it comes to killing eating lol. And rodents are pest animals, these fags who are saying, "muh poor fluffy boy" clearly never had these things infest their home.
>these fags who are saying, "muh poor fluffy boy" clearly never had these things infest their home
Correct, I've never had a hamster infestation. I've had mice however. I now own a cat who tortures and kills them, I'm not too comfortable with that either.
thats because the cage is too small, there is just not enough room for it to swing that fucker around to break its neck, but what you really should should be in awe with is that the lizard couldnt break the rats neck, because it bit him on the side on the head, so he drowned it a little to weaken it and get a proper hold on its head
The water monitor vid? Yeah they are native where I live. Its how they hunt. Bite down and swing the prey around until its organs are basically pulverized. They'll climb over peoples fences and go after anything around cat sized.
Picrel is one of them stalking a cat, happened a long time ago. Sorry for the bad quality.
Did he got the cat?
If you think reptiles are bad, you should see crustaceans. Crabs, lobsters, and prawns are absolutely brutal murder machines that will just grab and shred anything they can catch.
>oh sssshhhit that looks delicious
>mwoh ffffhiiit wat wmooks wewifouf
>rinse and repeat
i don't understand how frogs can swallow mice and shit without getting their stomaches chewed open.
i thought tegus just ate fruit? also, do domesticated hamsters just have 0 survival instinct? they watch the others get btfo and just sit around doing basically nothing. even the screams of the frog's hamsters spurred no action what-so-ever.
Ehh checked it out wasnt anything..
>Tegus ripping apart hamsters like T-Rexes from Jurassic Park
After i read that thats what i was expecting but nothing close. I think prayimg mantis might be a lil more similar but thats just insects i guess.
Animals are easy to obtain, I fear and I'm sure there is a lot of people buying regurarly animals just to do fucked up things on them.
All the serial killers were animal abusers
Are frogs cold blooded? They barely move compared to the hamsters.
Frogs are cold blooded but the species in the video is a horned frog also known as a pacman frog, which is an ambush predator. They sit still for day at a time waiting for prey to walk by. Also their stomachs expand which allows them to gorge when prey is abundant. They can go up to a month without eating. These frogs are mainly insectovores but can be fed small rodents on occassion. That frog is going to die from being overfed, especially being fed that many rodents in one sitting. That's too much animal protein.
T. owns a pacman frog and only feeds it insects, earthworms, and the occasional frozen/thawed pinky mouse.
Yeah too much proteins to from critters a can be fathal even for humans
I feel so bad for laughing
I enjoy the music
>Autistically screaming while shitting itself
All that fucking shit everywhere disgusting. Rodents are disgusting creatures.
i watched it. it surprised me the other hamsters don't become scared of the frog once some got eaten
Well, usually they aren't trapped in a box with a larger predator so that helps a lot.
humans keep breeding them
Youtube takes down videos of a guy testing non lethal mouse traps on his pet mice (They were fine), but this guy is allowed an entire channel of live feedings?
Barely. Hamsters are horribly inbred and often times will have all sorts of issues and are typically aggressive, As seen by the one freaking out on its back.
Yes, Frogs will not eat something unless its moving and many large frog Hispanices do commonly eat rodents. The risk of live feeding is that the rodent can land a NASTY bite on the frog, especially it it can bite it in the eye or face.
>large frog Hispanices
>are typically aggressive, As seen by the one freaking out on its back
They are solitary, if you'd keep these in an too small enclosure where they could claim territories, it'd be a bloodbath without the frog
A single mouse can kill a snake. This is a stupid and unfair fight.
Did they starve the hamsters? They'll probably kill it but i doubt they'd eat the frog otherwise, that shit's disgusting
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