Decades ago injection neutering of cats is popular here and no one told me that it could cause endometritis. So i injected it to my cat. Several months later she was still pregnant. So i took another injection. Later my cat disappeared from my house and i could not find it again. On the one hand . It was a good thing that she didn't die of endometriosis which would have happened because i would have taken her for another injection . But i have no way of knowing where my cat went and why. Is it possible that my cat ran away because she didn't like being neutered?
>final post
>no now the final post
Your cat suffers outside.
Your cat causes unnatural suffering outside.
The animals your cat killed (birds) were preventing further suffering by eating bugs.
Your outdoor cat spreads a disease that causes miscarriages and infant deaths.
Abusing a cat? You're abusing birds, lizards, wild rodents, anyone who gets toxo, and anyone who is bit by the bugs those birds would have ate. That was your decision. If you never had the cat, or never let it outside, it never would have happened.
But you did it, because your cat was bored and you were too lazy to interact with them. You sent them outside because the meowing noise pissed you off.
And now, your cat is dead.
>4. I am mad that people have property rights
Average IQ of thailand: 88.87. Figures.
Closing post .
The conclusion i have learned is that this board is pretty useless. Because all this is knowledge that i can find in my thai language website. And there is an immense evil in minds of people in the west particularly America . Who cherish their freedom (for stole and kill natives) but do not give it with their own pet . Hypocrite
1. The problem of ignoring the nature of cats you try to distort their " broken instincts" to make them accept their domestication. Prisoners are imprisoned for life because they committed a crime. But your cat was imprisoned because they have nature of being a cat. They were treated like prisoners until cats cound no longer learn to live on their own and look at this Cats love being a prisoners.
2.Cruelty to animals is seen as just physical abuse but confinement and emotional abuse are mot seen as important. And it goes so far that cats do not appreciate freedom. It is possible that the popularity of people 's appreciation here is dancing and shaving loudly as well as over reacting
But just because cats can't do that doesn't mean they don't appreciate freedom in their own way
So wicked
3.the basic of owner-pet relationship that is love and sincerity to each other without force . Was ignored but they still think of themselves as pet owners and not animals dealers or animal abusers . I don't need to say anything anymore because it's self evident and all your ridiculous excuses are inaudible
4.Muh rights. The claim of rights to one's own home space is never ending for multiracial people. Causing cat owners to not dare to let the cat go outside. Even human . They still had problems with their neighbors. And all pets in America have to destroy their native nature and endure in the narrow space of their owners because westerners like you glorify the ego. Glorify the wealth accumulation and individuality which lead to alienation of people in society. So you guys don't know how to let go. And letting things take their -
And letting things take their course was seen as " irresponsible" but their responsibility cause endless problems follow. All mental gymnastics was act to cover or distort this fact. Finally i will explain Buddhist philosophy and taoism to you
No matter what kind of excuse you have . Karma inevitable happens with cats confinement. No matter what. people people who imprison animals will be imprisoned. When we die our souls will be reborn in a new life.and karma wil follow us. Everyone has their own karma that cannot be erased or divided. Therefore. The fate of a cat or anyone would have it's own cause and factor. Intervention will cause new karma to arise. Therefore you must know how to let it go. A lot of calamity is caused because you try to fix the problems.
Nature is emotionless. And fair to all things also merciless because mercy is bias. Because you couldn't bear to see what happened to your pet. So you locked it up. This means you don't understand that nature is constantly adjusting it's balance. And since everything is subject to laws of nature and is a part of it. How can you escape it's laws? When you understand all the truth you will see that everything is on it's own way. It is emptiness. Sticking to it will only create chaos therefore the practitioner of the tao does not intervene . Good and bad people are born to balance power. When there are too many good people. Nature creates bad people. And likewise if too many bad people nature will create good people to balance. Those who are young think that their future is very long. Because their future was still " empty" so they were carefree . Emptiness is origin of all things. Things you haven't seen yet. Games you haven't played yet. It is emptiness. But when you make it to the end it's full and it's no longer useful. This is the reason to empty your mind. A true artist does not paint anything . In the end you guys were just struggling to find emptiness and come from emptiness
>I will explain a heretical made up religion to you
Alright, but that's made up, and you're going to hell. Keep your cat inside and seek christ.
Your grasp on nature is some strange cope. Humans have made unnatural environments to the point we're causing mass extinction. You write this then say you're being objective and not romanticising nature. Please look in a mirror and self examine. This reads like a schizophrenic post on /x/. You're acting like those religious people who use religion to justify whatever beliefs they have, no matter the actual value of the belief. Just embarrassing.
Oh no my cat is being denied its freedom. I've denied it's nature. Look at how it struggles.
do you see pet cat in the map? no. because pet cat is not wild cat. wild cats are tigers, lions, cheetahs, leopards, lynx. not pet cat. wild cats run free. you cat stays in your backyard.
this is a wild cat called lynx. do you know who is eating this wild cat food? pet cats eat wild cat food. pet cats are killing true wild cats.
the larger wild cats are way smarter than housecats. if the housecats are killing off their food aimlessly because they are unnaturally overpopulated and lack proper survival instincts, the wildcats will just eat the housecats.
at least the big ones will. this is, mostly, a wildcat called the scottish wildcat, also called the highland tiger. housecats are able to breed with it. when that happens, most or all of its offspring are less intelligent, easier to prey upon for larger animals, and are less, and sometimes unable, to feed themselves. the housecat therefore plays the long game in killing off this natural and wild animal.
i said mostly a wildcat. possibly. this is not actually the wildcat called the scottish wildcat. because of people who insist on letting their manmade bioweapon be "free", the pure blooded scottish wildcat stopped existing some time ago...
"it is listed as Critically Endangered in the United Kingdom and is threatened by hybridization with domestic cats.[6] Since all individuals sampled in recent years showed high levels of hybridisation with domestic and feral cats, this population is thought to be functionally extinct in the wild.[7]"
>housecats are able to breed with it
yea they frick anything they touch they kill the genes the birds the dirt in which the plants grow is festered with cat piss.
cat shit causes miscarriages, stillbirths, and deformities in infants. it's in the food. all of the food. it's on your lettuce, it's in your steak. the parasites in this shit can only be obtained and spread by outdoor cats, they do not complete their life cycle in anything but a cat. it's in the dirt from neighborhood cats, it's in every single livestock animal from "farm cats", which are not FDA approved because they dont reduce rat populations and leave rotting corpses and turds all over the place.
now cats are fine, but they just do not fricking belong outside. they are harming us, and the whole world, and only actual idiots can't see it just like the 80 IQ illiterates in sudan can't make the feral, uncared for "free" dogs - rabies link. education teaches you how to think and makes you smarter!
Diversity is their strength
No housecats exist in the wild naturally. Housecats are a domesticated animal and have been selectively bred for docility and more prosocial behavior at the cost of their survival skills for at least ten thousand years. The general shape and markings are sometimes similar, but only in the way that dogs sometimes look similar to wolves.
Cats are human creations. They are a bioweapon meant to drive rats out of grain stores and temples. Egyptians would literally pack an entire room with cats every night. Wild cats in this situation would kill each other! But cats were forced to evolve, by humans, to live like this.
Your cat is meant to live in your house. Not in nature. If it's unhappy in your house, it's because YOU are failing to fulfill YOUR nature. The cats in egyptian temples would have many other cat friends, and people would always be stopping by to pet them and play with them. You just leave them alone, one single cat, without a friend, and get angry because they're meowing out of boredom. The cat does not want to be outside... the cat wants to be anywhere but trapped with an neglectful owner.
My indoor cats are perfectly happy and some of my friends have FOUR. All indoors.
same energy
this cat do not exist in wild naturally its bred to look pretty for humans to buy
this cat do not exist in wild naturally it cannot even live without humans
this cat do not exist in wild naturally its bred by humans
reminder, cats are domesticated animals. they were selectively bred to be locked inside egyptian temples and storehouses. they actually developed rudimentary social behaviors that wild cats don't have because of the practice of keeping multiple cats inside a building. they prefer that life. they prefer being stuck inside with a bunch of other cats.
if they're roaming they're not doing their job any better than a roaming guard dog
It's not a meme, cathomosexuals really are like this, lmao
I’m convinced OP isn’t smart enough to have this argument.
>arguing with a SEA monkey
It's hilarious how he thinks he's special and empathetic, but doesn't understand the nature of his pet at all. He just has folklore versions of dogs and cats in his head and forces everything to fit that bullshit.
He is also totally unaware of his hypocrisy and does not understand how allowing his cat to roam and kill birds (which are definitely meant to be free, they can fricking fly) is the same if not worse than a dog killing cats. Definitely worse, really, cats are a manmade construct and birds are part of nature. Cats serve no function, birds distribute seeds and control insect populations.
"Manmade constructed"
Ah yes i forgot that even gender is just something that made up by human for westerners in a pitiful dying society like you. It's ridiculous how theses people think that the words you have invented with endless craving could represent the thoughtless nature.
Of course my cat would hunt any bird if it didn't have owner. And if it have owner then i should make appropriate and legal compensation. But the rate at which birds and cats kill each other is very low because birds can fly but cat can't. Beasts of the same size would have no advantage or disadvantage in a fight . This is an acceptable risk in keeping a cat free. And it clearly goes with the nature of the cat. But in the case of dogs it's not like this because dogs tend to be bigger than other animals. Therefore it is more dangerous to the whole society than cats. And since they are trainable. It makes more sense to train them indoors. This is facts. Rabies is real. And it's most contagious from dogs. Pitbull are more dangerous to humans than other animals. On the other hand. Cats are not that dangerous. And no one can train them . Therefore it deserves to be entrusted with freedom to go out as it did in the nature.
Everything i say is true and backed up by all facts. The only thing you have is connecting that doesn't care about the basic relationship between owner and the pet .
>Therefore it is more dangerous to the whole society than cats. And since they are trainable. It makes more sense to train them indoors. This is facts.
>Pitbull are more dangerous to humans than other animals
lol
> But the rate at which birds and cats kill each other is very low because birds can fly but cat can't.
No. They kill billions
https://abcbirds.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Loss-et-al.-2013-Impact-of-free-ranging-domestic-cats-on-wildlife-in-U.S..pdf
Dogs that kill cats are doing the world a service. It also happens that the most prolific cat remover, the greyhound, is also the safest dog for people.
>doesn’t know rabies vaccines exist
>doesn’t understand that dogs stay behind fences
>thinks cats cant be trained, which is false
>thinks having to take care of his bored cat means it belongs outside because it frustrates him
>thinks “its the nature of dogs to follow orders”, which is false, and dogs that are able to kill cats can’t be trained not to
>thinks its not fair for dogs to remove his roaming pest because of size, is unaware that wild dogs in africa are natural predators of wild cats
ESLs are idiots.
>actual civilizations have largely eradicated rabies
https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html
>cats can be trained
https://www.rd.com/list/how-to-train-a-cat/
>greyhounds are never safe for cats but are safe for people
https://greyhoundhomecare.com/are-greyhounds-good-with-cats/
https://www.csus.edu/indiv/m/merlinos/pdf/2008breeddifferences.pdf
This study also shows that huskies, the most popular catting dog, have some of the lowest human directed aggression but will defend your yard from stray dogs.
>the predatory relationship between canines and felines is natural
https://blog.wcs.org/photo/2020/06/01/the-dhole-asias-cat-chasing-cool-canids-bronx-zoo-india-endangered-wild-dog/
https://amp.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article241208631.html
>cats damage the natural world, cats are not safe in the natural world, they don’t belong in it.
https://pawsbink.org/pet-care-library/cats-and-wildlife-dont-mix/
Tldr: I actually have sources. Keep your cat inside. Sorry you consider it unnatural if you are confronted with work and know you could avoid it but that’s probably because you ladyboys are lazy fricks.
Human kill millions more than cats. Cats kill anything smaller than them which is not a problem in human society. But dogs are not . They are a problem in human society. And the fact that dogs kill cats not the opposite. Is the evidence to support that dogs deserve to be keep in the house. Not the cat because it is dangerous for cats and other and animals including human
Oh sorry your whole green text don't destroy any of my argument at all . Not every dog is behind a fence. But it should be in the house . And even there are is a vaccine it doesn't mean that dogs are not life threatening from rabies. Your vaccination doesn't mean that a single injection will protect you for the rest of your life . I don't think cats can't be trained but it's harder than training dogs. Also it's dog nature to take commands . Your green text doesn't change this fact . Dogs can live with cats. And it can be trained to do that . And since we are not in Africa there is no need for you to use that excuse in urban society. Because in Africa cats are not live in the house either
A nazi racist like you is an idiot
>dogs should be locked inside for the safety of cats
cats dont have rights.
cats are not protected wildlife.
they are the polar opposite. cats slaughter protected wildlife.
you let your dog off leash in an open space and a police officer shot it because it could have hurt protected wildlife and contracted and spread parasites?
your let your cat roam and a dog, legally contained on its owners property, ate it, before it could hurt protected wildlife and contracted and spread parasites?
these are the same thing. the exact same thing
if anything the dog "needs" even more freedom because the dumbest dogs are still twice as smart as housecats. that's why indoor cats tend to be truly indoor, but every dog needs to go on daily walks with their owner and run free in fenced parks where they can't predate on what few megafauna we have left.
now you will say "but the dogs nature is to obey"
this is false. many dogs do not enjoy obedience. and even obedient dogs actually need a significant amount of freedom and self determination because they are intelligent animals and are better able to appreciate it.
"and the cats nature is to be free"
this is false. the cat does not have the cognitive capacity to comprehend freedom. if kept occupied and given a companion it will be happy indoors, while a dog would just become neurotic and destructive. a cat doesn't know the difference between a city block and your room, it just gets antsy over a stimulation level and a routine.
cat owners either neglect their pets and b***h and moan when they get ran over/eaten, or keep them inside and cared for. dog owners make it so their dog can be outside but stay on their legally owned property and always go exploring together with them. curious.
>Human kill millions more than cats
cats can run. its their fault if they get caught. just like how birds can fly.
> Cats kill anything smaller than them which is not a problem in human society
Humans kill anything smaller than them like cats. which is not a problem for humans.
>Not the cat because it is dangerous for cats and other and animals including human
cats are dangerous to my chicken. my chicken wants to be free too. and cats kill my chiken. so i kill cat.
>Africa cats are not live in the house either
go live in africa
>another shitty ESL bait thread that will reach bump limit because people can't just report and ignore
>let's cat roam around outside
....oh gee, what happened to my cat!?
It's dead and you killed it. Hahaha
If you or a family member gets hit by a car and dies don't forget to blame your mother for letting you " roam outside" and don't forget to tell them it's their own fault. Because this is the same logic you use
Excuse me how old are you ? 12 ? Do you really think you can make me feel bad by your slander?
1.The definition of " slander" is to associate some cause with unreliable person especially the intent of that person to cause misunderstanding and see benefits for oneself in terms of satisfaction. Your posts fits this definition in all respects. So your post is to slander other people.
2.No cat owners let a cat out when there is a dog in front yard or there's a danger they notice. But bad luck with cats often happen in a way that no one can protect. So this is not the owner 's fault. The westerners attempts to solve this problem are disaster because they don't know how to let go
You tried to solve the problem by locking it up . And when nature reacts with stress. You try to counteract it by talking it for a walk . Or find a food or toys for it which consumes your own time and energy. And in the end it worked only temporarily . The same is true of trying to feed a cat food that is not suitable for cats and causes kidney disease. The same goes for trying to neuter a cat and causing endometritis. This all started because you didn't accept spontaneity in the first place . Because the doctor wants to sell drugs and food company want to sell food and someone want to sell leashes and toys. Misinformation that distorts the nature of animals is created and disseminated . So they help each other to create a hell for pets in their house. It's no different than the catastrophic imbalances of human chemistry with antidepressants and by implementing a chip into the brain.
And because of this enormous mistake you rebuked letting go of letting nature take its course by claiming that it was someone 's fault
>If you or a family member gets hit by a car and dies don't forget to blame your mother for letting you " roam outside" and don't forget to tell them it's their own fault. Because this is the same logic you use
People aren't cats. But this does apply to children, because they aren't self aware, it's called criminal neglect. It is legally and morally their fault.
>And when nature reacts with stress. You try to counteract it by talking it for a walk . Or find a food or toys for it which consumes your own time and energy. And in the end it worked only temporarily .
Your cat is inside, your cat is bored, now you have to take care of the cat. Now you are seething.
Asian hates taking care of animals and tries to pretend he's holy and moral for not wanting to take care of his cat. "Actually, not doing any work is... harmonious" - goes off about chips in brains. Are you my dad, who is literally named chang?
People are not cats does that mean people don't want freedom like cat do ? No ? Are cat stay as kid forever? Even kid's want to do things on their own. Not be locked in a room all the time. And locking them up is a crime. So no psycho does what you say . That is lock people in their homes forever because they fear the uncertainty of life . Or you did ? Then someone should call the police to arrest you. You don't have to play mental gymnastics because you don't confine yourself like you said other should.
Keeping a cat indoor is not take care of the cat . But rather is take care of your selfish. You may entertain cat but it's not permanent because it goes against nature. So you have created a burden for yourself and also created stress for cats.
Asians are not all alike. But most of them do not use perverted reasoning to distort nature. Because Asia has different philosophy than the west in not interfering with nature. And let it go it's own way
While the Westerners play a twisted play capturing animals for drug testing and building monument for them . Everything you type does not refute the devastation that westerners have inflicted upon nature for hundreds years. It has nothing to do with mystery or holy . It's matter of rationality and morals. Which is something westerners don't care about
>Which is something westerners don't care about
Asians eat dogs and endangered animals like harpy eagles. A large number of dogs that are beaten to death and consumed in Thailand are pets. Asian country is the largest consumer of dog meat in the entire world, with 10 to 20 million dogs being killed and eaten every year.
the west do not eat their pets.
The west do not eat their pet ? Lol you kids are naive. People in Switzerland now still eat dogs and cats. And during world wars westerners ask the guard to shoot the dogs dead so they can eat them . You guys were the one killed cats for mo reason in the middle age . Now you guys just stole the nature resources from the rest of the world so you don't have to eat them anymore. And eating dogs and cats in Asia is no different from what poor people in the west do when they have no choice
But this doesn't change the fact that the main philosophy which drives the west empire is that it ignores nature and always want to intervene in it
are you actually moronic? america literally has an overpopulation of deer and feral hogs that is an actual problem, theres also a shit load of welfare programs that poor can get food because we are savages that let people eat raw animals, only the mentally unstable would do that
>inb4 europe
the continent is a bunch of savages, they have to get nephew america to bail out their family fights constantly
Bias bias and bias that is all you have . America? Of course you are not that poor like Europe because you cheated the whole world by printing unlimited money and causing trouble around the world to maintain what you think it is " morals" or hight standard of living. watch when your country goes bankrupt and you will know whether morality or money that protects animals life from madness of your western philosophy . Which think everything in the world was made for human to consume
but thats you though, youre the one making a bunch of bias on a country you know nothing about
>world wars
>middle age
people did stupid shit in the past. we are in 2023 you still killing dogs. West is not eating dogs. you have no sorces.
If a cat runs away from their home, it means that it's about to die or is going to die.
I'm sorry anon. I hope your cat ended up fine
>Is it possible that my cat ran away because she didn't like being neutered?
Anything is possible but Im more inclined to think she might sadly have passed away. Sorry either way op
Thank you . It's been almost 20 years. I can make up my mind but some coincidence happend. It was only this month that i learned neutering infections are dangerous for cats. So it reminded me of the past
>Letting your cat outside
Lol, deserved
I value freedom more than happiness in prison. And the fact that she survived being taken by me for contraceptive injections and got endometriosis proves that it is the correct decision. Human is not always right
The disappearance of this cat made me afraid to let another cat go and that lead me to keep another cat " in the house" for many more years. It was pleasure but i can't fool myself that my cat wants to go out .
Raising both free and indoors all have advantages on both sides. But i choose naturalness because cat love freedom. And i have no right to control my cat 's fate .
you can walk with the cat outside and supervise it you lazy homosexual
>But i choose for my cat to get hit by a car or nabbed by a dog or hawk because cat love freedom. And i have no right to control my cat 's fate .
RIP
If you feel guilty that you locked the cat in the house it's because your own mind feel guilty. It's not because i attack keeping cat indoors. Don't let your guilty distort other people's words about what they didn't say . It's doesn't make you look better or your guilt go aways by over defending yourself with slandering other.
Everything you say is your verbal karma . I can say the same thing about how does locking a cat in the house harm a cat. I can do many times better than you.
But i don't because i respect each other decisions. I am not quick to judge people like you do for fun . You should learn to grow up. You 'll learn that there are other ways to make yourself feel good without insulting others
>locking a cat in the house harm a cat. I can do many times better than you.
why dont you watch the cat? why dont you walk with the cat? you are a lazy frick if you cant do watch your cat dont get a cat
How do you know i " didn't do" as you said, you psychopath?
A lot of people do what you say but the cat is still unhappy and screaming and want to go out. There are some cats who can tolerate that and many cats can't stand it because it's against nature.
You think you know better than me who is older than you and has raised cats both free and indoors or a mix of both. You think other are evil and only you love cats?
If you don't have knowledge to answer the questions i ask on the topic because you are stupid. You better shut up than say you know things i did't ask and i already know better than you .
lmao if you are all knowing all powerful cat gay why did you make this thread? why did you frick up a simple task of keeping a pet cat? dont keep a pet cat if you are this "skilled" why are you so incompetent?
you dont know me or how old i am lmao yet you are the one acting all mighty better than me because you are old?? what kind of shit logic is that
Because 1. I didn't say i knew everything. But it didn't mean i didn't know anything. This is the distortion of speech from neurotic people
2.I ask what i don't know . And in the past it wasa something that happened almost 20 years ago . Which little people would know but didn't mean that i didn't know from the experience that followed
3. Because rushing to judge others is the action of newly born person. And that's what you done in last two posts. And your third posts show the stupidity of newborn who doesn't know logic .
A post like you that doesn't show sympathy but is only satisfied with yourself is a clear sign of schizophrenia. I don't want to act as a parent teaching an uneducated person like you
So your logic is if your son was hit by a car when he was 20 years old then it was your fault for letting him out of the house for 20 years. And you should keep him in your house for the rest of your life .
You should go home and suck your mother's milk until you know the intricacies of life
Cats are not human children. Period. Get this through your skull.
It is a dumb animal with half as many brain cells in its cerebral cortex as a chihuahua. And despite that, it is as high maintenance as a chihuahua, if not higher because you can’t teach the cat much it wasn’t born knowing. A cat does not have any poetic or philosophical inclination. It does not crave a vague concept of liberty and endless space. All it knows is activity and boredom, moving and still, hiding and visible, food and hunger, thirst and water, loneliness and togetherness. All it knows regarding roaming is that if it has been somewhere it needs to be there again every day until another animal tries to kill it.
They are happier indoors but you need to provide what the cat is getting outside (hiding places and vantage points, togetherness - get another cat, activity - yes, you need to play with them and give them shit to destroy instead of leaving then alone in a sterile asian apartment). But without the part where my dog shakes it until its neck breaks and consumes it like it was an errant rabbit. That part is inevitable as soon as your stray hops the fence. Dogs are faster, stronger, and smarter. Dogs are part of my property, and cats are pests of it.
Tell me why i should listen to the words of people who see cats as stress-free creatures just because the brain is not complicated like humans
Your words are the words of a person who doesn't deserve to have a pet . Rather it was the words of animals dealers who saw them as inferior to him. Or the words of the prison guard that this detention is for their own benefit
Your statement that cats are happy if they are raised like princes in the house contradic everything in the real world. Because you are more concerned with your own comfort than your spontaneity. That's why imprisoned your own pets. And received the karma of being confined in dying society with antidepressants
Arrogant as can be. No really, your cat either died or was hopefully taken in by another family. If there's cars or predators you only have yourself to blame if the cat "disappears". I've trained my cat to walk on a leash and take her to the woods. She loves it and asks for it. It gets me outside as well. Too many coyotes, stray cats, and idiots walking their dogs off leash near me to let her out.
Obviously you'll do what you want, but don't pretend that you're making logical points here.
No you are the one to blame yourself now for keeping your cat in the house and ignore it's need. Whether there is a car or no car outside. Dangerous or not dangerous it doesn't matter anymore because you have thrown away all your cat's freedom . But choose to keep your own freedom only for yourself not for your cat
True love doesn't need a leash or a chain . And if that is so natural why would you must train your cat to walk on a leash? Would your cat stay with you if weren't on a leash? and opened the door that you locked up like a prison
You are the one that pretending your actions are logical. the cat is with you because of the leash which you don't want to call it a chain. The cat didn't want to be with you for it's true intentions . You pretended to skip the part that the cat wanted to leave. It's lust for natural male or female cat . Desire to eat grass and dissatisfied with you practicing it. You crossed over and pretended not to see your cat displeasure. Of course your cat has to " ask for it " because it's the only way the cat can get out of the prison you have locked in. And since being in prison has become a habit for a long time. Cats will no longer know what it's like to be independent.(aka stockholm syndrome)Then you assumed that the cat like you
This is sad . It's lying to yourself
Keeping a cat free may have risky for uncertainty of fate. But every second is more precious and more real than self deception by raising cats indoors.
moronic animal worshiper.
These animals can not even recognize themselves in a mirror. Everything is an unthinking hunger to them. They have no control and no idea. They have the bare minimum for a mind. We bred them to be even dumber than theor already dumb animals.
Keeping a cat indoors is a matter of keeping an unthinking moron from killing itself picking candy up off the train tracks
>but they want the candy -your logic
And this attitude is why you live in the troony capitol of the planet and THE pedophile sex tourism destination, and we don’t.
Aka " i am bastard loser in the society that no one care me so i must act cool by seeing animals as objects. And i can't come up with any arguments or moral principles other reprimanding it with ad hominem "
Your country is not great because of you. Don't fool yourself. Loser s oy boy
If you cared about them, you would treat them like what they are, instead of assuming they are people. You need to understand that an animals experience is not like yours. It is constant compulsion and stress without a single word in their head. The cats experience is closer to an OCD patient.
>Human kill millions more than cats.
We kill systematically to serve our needs. Cats kill randomly at odds with our needs, causing bird extinctions.
>Cats kill anything smaller than them which is not a problem in human society.
This is a problem. Birds reduce bug populations (bugs spread disease) and spread seeds, keeping natural areas healthy and diverse
>But dogs are not . They are a problem in human society.
No, dogs are not a problem in HUMAN society. In HUMAN society, they kill fewer people than furniture, even the worst dogs (shitbulls) that can hardly be called dogs.
>And the fact that dogs kill cats not the opposite.
Yes, it is. A cat is an invasive manmade pest that is overstepping its bounds. A dog killing a trespassing cat to defend its owners property from hidden feces and needless bird slaughter is the same as a farmer killing a dog to defend livestock or a game warden killing a dog for chasing deer. If *I* am not allowed to kill songbirds why is a cat? The answer is they aren't.
>Is the evidence to support that dogs deserve to be keep in the house.
No. The evidence is that dogs are happiest in the house, in the yard, and on leashed walks, because dogs are intelligent enough to learn to enjoy that. Like you are intelligent enough to respect property rights... I HOPE.
>Not the cat because it is dangerous for cats
If a cat leaves your property, they are an invasive pest. The dog protects the yard and the birds in it.
>and other and animals including human
The dogs where I live, In HUMAN society, do not pose a significant problem. The diseases spread by outdoor cays shit kill more people, 20x more. Only outdoor cats can spread that disease.
>Your country is not great because of you. Don't fool yourself. Loser s oy boy
My country is great because most people in it are like me. Together, we make my country great, by employing logic, reason, and morality. Because we are the kind of people who understand that a child should not be allowed to play on train tracks because they want to, that a mother that allows that is at fault if they die, and that letting cats roam abuses the cat by not just putting their life at risk, but habituating them to it so they develop difficulty returning to a normal life, and abuses our environment because cats tend to kill songbirds and other beneficial animals. My country is great because most of us understand that dogs need rabies vaccines, fenced yards, and regular leashed walks. It's this kind of thinking that prevents a country from becoming a major sex tourism destination where people go to frick 12 year old girls who are being pimped out by their parents.
American thinking: "That's wrong, because they don't know what they're getting into and they will most likely be physically and psychologically hurt. If people have always done it, people have always objected - morality is as natural as sin."
Analogman thailand native thinking: "So what, if they want it, let them have freedom, this is natural, people have always done it."
Well, alright, my country isn't that great. Some idiots still let their cats outdoors. But it's actually less common here and most roaming cats are just un-owned ferals.
a cats freedom, that they can not comprehend or appreciate, is worth nothing. the birds they kill have true freedom because they weren’t bred to be docile pets and are significantly more intelligent than cats.
if you love freedom you will keep your unnatural, man made invasive species confined to an unnatural, man made property line and finally admit that it doesn’t know the difference between exploring a basement and exploring a city as long as it can go everywhere it remembers being. it’s twice as stupid as a chihuahua.
Just because you can't appreciate that cats have freedom doesn't mean that cats don't like don't appreciate freedom. And if i love freedom i will not take it away from my pet for my selfishness.
You are just a thing of nature. You are no more valuable than a bug and no more precious than a cat . The sun does not shine on only you but on everything on earth .
A cat literally can not appreciate freedom. We bred them to be even dumber than an animal that already had a dubious consciousness.
Indoor cats are perfectly happy if their stimulation needs are met. A cat does not understand "explore", anything that makes their brain release dopamine will do. A cat does not care if it patrols territory over a whole city or in your house as long as it gets to. A cat does not care if it hides in an alley or behind your couch. It's all the same thing to its tiny brain. But in your house, it doesn't have to legitimately fear for its life or get the shit beat out of it by an angry cat.
You have to understand. Their minds are not filled with hope or expectations. Just compulsion.
>You are just a thing of nature. You are no more valuable than a bug and no more precious than a cat . The sun does not shine on only you but on everything on earth .
If you believe this then I'm sure you won't mind if you, your family, and your entire people are wiped out with a US/Chinese made bioweapon so your country can be turned into a wildlife preserve. there are already humans, and you can run away, this is just nature, humans are stewards of the planet and you aren't special so having wildlife in your place is fine. Humans are just doing what humans do by killing other humans. Stellar logic right? No.
Your cat can do what it wants on your property, your slice of the world. That's yours, if you want the birds on it to be eaten by a cat, that's your cat. But if your cat eats birds in my slice, which is a haven for them, your cat is getting hounded and better get back over the fence.
"We breed them"? huh you mental ill. Who are your " we" ? Cats have spread all over the world since you didn't even exist. And cats have been bred freely throughout history. Because no one has enough time to take vare of them . There may be cats kept in Egyptian temples . But that doesn't mean there aren't cats that roam free outside Egyptian temples. Is this your way of reasoning? Say " some" to describe " all" and why didn't you justify the laws and belief of Egyptian that gave cats freedom . Worship as god and have a rule not to kill it ? Because it's doesn't fit into the conclusion that you want to abusive of cats right ? moron
Bioweapon is not natural. What i said is principle of nature where they are fair with all life . If you respected the principles of nature and stopped thinking of yourself as being more valuable than anything elses in the world. There wouldn't be as much war as it is now. And i am not afraid of world war iii . Because my country is not superpower. It's your game to worry about. To eat antidepressants and pretended you still cheerful . Because you are think you are superior and more valuable than anything else in the world.
>Cats have spread all over the world since you didn't even exist
wrong. domesticated cats existed because of humans. how the frick did cats swim across the seas and rivers? humans took them in the ships
>Who are we
Humans. Cats are domesticated. They have smaller bodies, smaller brains, and almost no threat processing skills compared to their direct wild ancestors. They're a domesticated animal. moron.
>Bioweapon is not natural.
If cats are, bioweapons are. Both are things humans created from natural materials.
>What i said is principle of nature where they are fair with all life
Nature is the opposite of fair. 100lb jaguars eat 10lb sand cats. moronic cats that weight 15lbs kill and eat significantly more intelligent birds that weigh less than a pound just by hiding and waiting for hours.
>If you respected the principles of nature and stopped thinking of yourself as being more valuable than anything elses in the world.
The number one principle of nature is every animal thinks of itself or its social group as being more valuable than anything else in the world. Or else cats wouldn't kill random songbirds, they'd farm free range chickens and eat the excess eggs.
>There wouldn't be as much war as it is now
Nature is non stop war. Somewhere in the woods, a tiger that weighs a half tonne is eating a baby deer alive.
Cat was evolution on it’s own way before human existed so this is not bio weapon that purely created by human intention . It’s my fault for take any of your moron argument seriously .so this will be last post for you kids. You think nature is not fair because you use your own bias to judge it. Everything begins with the same status in the beginning . The adventages of each species they all have compensation for themselves in the long run . Great insights are soothing and profound . Narrow insight are panic and piercing . Nature are thoughtless so it’s fair but no mercy. Because mercy are bias . To be the one with nature is to stop thinking of yourself as being more valuable than anything else. Animals just act as it’s nature .they may kill for food but they didn’t develop narcissistic and weapons including technology like human did .eating each other of animals are huge differences from wars .they do it for daily survival . Not for looking into the future that hasn’t happened yet or something that doesn’t exist like religion beliefs and claiming to make a long war . And not forgetting the past leads to sickness and anxiety about the future . This is one of causes of war that only mankind wages
tldr lazy thai man makes up bullshit philosophy to justify not taking care of cats properly. my uncle Liang was right about you lots.
No. You value your concept of freedom very highly, but you use it to cover yourself from responsibility. I see dead cats on the road weekly during my job. Hawks leave rabbit and squirrel remains in my yard. A coyote took a woman's dog out of her backyard two weeks ago. Unattended animals are not "free". Wild animals aren't even "free" as many live short, brutal lives. You're unwilling to have an open mind and question your own beliefs, choosing instead to argue defensively. This isn't a valuable conversation due to that. My cat trusts me enough that she's practically a teddy bear. She enjoys going outside and meeting new people. I keep a large backpack carrier that she's free to return to if she gets overwhelmed. She gets to chase rabbits and stalk birds without needlessly slaughtering them. She doesn't shit in people's flower beds. You assume far too much about cats concepts of freedom and joy. Your arrogance is off-putting.
Your cat ran away and likely died because of the stress it was under. You failed as a steward. You refuse to accept responsibility for your animal under the guise of valuing "freedom" as you define it. Again, unless you're open to actual discussion this entire thread is worthless except as a place for you to crow.
Responsibility is not imprisoning. Responsibility is to take care your cat when it need like when it got sick . And protect it if it's in your range. Responsibility is not the chain. Then it mean that all prisoners love being in prison too right ? Because the outside world is full of chaos. This is nonsense.
And sorry my cat doesn't have the slightest bit of stress. Because i am not chaining it like prisoner like you do. If there was a stress. It would be natural intervention by injecting sterilization that people of my country learned from your western countries. And if my cat doesn't run away it must have died from endometritis. That's the deceptive " responsibility" that your western country present to my cat .
Also you don't have to play mental gymnastics. All you have to do is free the chains and the prison where you kept your cat . Then you will see the truth of your cat . But surely you don't dare to do it. Because you already know your cats wants freedom outside and you will never let your cat have . And every behaviour that you describe that your cat is totally okay with being in your sweet prison it's because of force training so long that your cat can't learn to live on its own anymore. You are no less cruel than animals that killing each other in the nature world outside
>Responsibility is not the chain
The cat isn't aware of the chain. It's not able to.
It's definitely aware of being picked apart alive by a hawk. Something I have personally witnessed, by the way. Birds of prey do not kill their food before eating it. They do, however, like to have the peace of a balcony or flat spot on a roof while they eat the eyeballs out of a living animal.
You have a very romantic idea about how cats understand their freedom. They chain themselves to their schedules and territory. If anything, my cat has a much larger territory than most outdoor cats since she has plenty of parks and woods that she sees as her territory. She can rely on me to scare off aggressive tom cats. Did you know tom cats that aren't neutered are often highly aggressive? The local colony gets cared for by volunteers. My friend volunteered for a while. She quit when they found a bunch of mutilated kittens. Apparently tom cats will kill male kittens, even their own. That's what "free" cats do in their natural state. I'm sorry, but you don't seem to have a firm grasp on reality. You instead choose a romantic view. You seem to care more about your feelings than reality.
And here is the last post for you
My main view is that nature is fair but no mercy. Because kindness is bias . The victory of one animal is the ruin of another. But nature adjusts it's balance without human involvement. Is this " romance"? No this is realization of this world as it really is. Interfering with the economy through government policies rather than allow the capitalism engine to work lead to long term economic recession. Instead of a short plummet and come back later. Medicine keeps people from dying but it causes weak genes to spread and weaken the human race in the long run. This Is nature balancing act . For the sake of short term gain that's why you think keeping cats indoors is good for cats breed in long run. They get used to being comfortable and eventually lose their so called " cat" qualities. Because the only thing you need is the comfort of locking it up. If you have wide enough space for the cats to play on . It will alleviate the balancing of nature. But does every cat owner have wide space like you ? No most people don't have space for cats. But they will still force to raise cat indoor therefore disaster is inevitable. And the existence of a cat in the house although it is no longer a cat . It also benefit companies and traders and activist who exploits cats . Are they going to say that keeping a cat indoors is bad ? Will they destroy their own income? Some of you guys accuse me of saying a myth that isn't true. But what you guys believe is what you talking theses cat food companies narrative and believe them without questions. Conspiracies theorists question big company in the west . But don't question companies that make money with pets. Let cat go outside was risky with death and injury. But that was the risk i would gladly accept in giving my cat freedom because it was nature. This is not romantic view of the world. But the truth. Only by keeping a cat free can help cat continue to be cats as they have been since Egypt.
Too incoherent. Didn't read.
If your cat enters my yard, a superior animal will remove it. Either it gets away or it gets in his belly, because I value a property full of songbirds and free of cat turds.
Bet i'll get mittens first
>GAAAS GAAAS GAAAS IM GONNA STEP ON THE GAS
But if you want it to become something else for convenience of your short human life. So be it
And of course this doesn't include the sincerity issue of whether the vat wants to be with you without tethering it or not
>im so insecure i need to throw my animal outside to prove it loves me
>cat: *fricking dies*
>WELL I RESPECTED HIS FREEDOM THE HECKIN MICROCHIP ANTIDEPRESSENTS! CATS INSIDE ARENT CATS BECAUSE UHHHH
God you are a fricking moron.
The entire point of cats is that they are not free. That's why they're domesticated.
Again, your arrogance is too much. Please pull your head out of your ass and stop patting yourself on the back. That was not your magnum opus. If it was, then please don't take up writing. You would be an absolute pain to live with if you're willing to jump through so many mental hoops to always thin of yourself as correct. You are unwilling to consider that your premise could possibly be wrong. You do have a romanticism of "what it means to be a cat" and you're unwilling to question yourself. We're literally back at my first post where I called out your arrogance. Once again, this thread is useless. Congratulations for making an entirely useless thread where honest discussion can never happen. Pig headed, that's what you are. Maybe it's a cultural thing where men in your culture can never question themselves or discuss their ideas honestly. Either way, you never did seem to accept responsibility for killing your cat through negligence.
Keeping cats indoors does not hurt them. Your total neglect of their needs does.
Outdoor cats tend to die before they turn 5. Are they being helped or hurt? If your outdoor cat enters my property, my dog will remove it (and eat it) before it shits where I grow my food, digs up a days worth of veggie sprouts, or tries to kill one of the younger chickens. Was your cat happier outside in that case?
1.your first post moan about take the cat for a walk"outside" shows that you agree that keeping it indoors has its drawbacks
2.contrary to the first post. Now you say that raising a cat indoors has no disadvantages
Facts : keeping cats indoors does hurt them . Not by physical but in the way to increase stress to the cat and as well as for owner to endure listening to them yelling and wanting to go outside.
Maybe you only care about your pets what you see on outside. But you don't care about their inner feelings
3.The refusal to recognize that they want to go outside for months and years. Are as you said " total neglect of their needs"
Outdoor cats do not always live less than 5 years. Human have been raising cats like this for a long time. And they live longer than that . It's all about the uncertainty of life. Just like it happen to everyone all the time. But no one would imprison his kids for the rest of their life because accidents could happen in the outside world.
If you say this type of confinement is a good thing then a prisoner s life imprisonment is not a punishment but a reward
dude i dont care how many facts you write
you lost your cat
fact that makes you a shitty lazy person
maby instead of typing go out and look for your fricking cat
The search took place 20 years ago and it's useless to do it anymore
So a shitty lazy person is you who doesn't read everything i type . And act like it was just happened yesterday.
And just because i am missing my cat doesn't mean i will endure the silly insult from you. Everything you type was useless and all wrong. You should be ashamed of your stupidity instead of coming to blame me to cover up your stupidity.
>Facts : keeping cats indoors does hurt them .
Incorrect.
>Not by physical but in the way to increase stress to the cat and as well as for owner to endure listening to them yelling and wanting to go outside.
Incorrect. Your cat is stressed because you abused them by letting them claim territory that isn't their or your property. Interact with them to alleviate stress until they are conditioned against this behavior. The correct thing to do is never let them outside to begin with because this is 100% true
>All it knows regarding roaming is that if it has been somewhere it needs to be there again every day
Cats don't understand "outside, free". They understand "i have been there, therefore territory, therefore must patrol". Letting your cat think it has claimed territory that it has no right to is animal abuse.
>Why you imprisoned your own pets
Dog owners have to "imprison" their pets because they consider their dog being killed by a catgay for removing their vermin undesirable. Do you consider your cat being killed by another animal all the same a desirable outcome?
Thankfully, dogs do not consider this abuse or imprisonment, as long as their territory is consistently theirs (their yard). Maybe your cat should be the same.
Letting a cat claim territory that is not actually its right is abuse. ie: your cat in someone elses yard. And it really isnt its right. Does everyone else want your cat killing songbirds for fun? Do they want it shitting in their garden and "burying" it just deep enough to keep it moist, but so shallow it will get on their hands if they go to pull weeds or plant something new?
Do you want a dog to come into your yard, dig a hole, and piss on your porch? Do you think it would be right to allow a dog to learn to expect that, or abusive because it will inevitably be refused that ?
Just because an idiot like you says it's incorrect doesn't mean it's incorrect and the reason you claim is the kind that no educated person would agree with. And that is the luck of the world that human morality doesn't have the same level of thought as you
If getting cats to do what they want and the nature of having territorial is abuse cat . And keeping them indoors and subjecting them to stress and yelling for months and years is not abuse. So it mean we should put you in jail until you understand that this imprisonment has benefited you from accident outside. Although by nature human should have freedom to walk wherever they want
And imprisoning you that you don't want is not against human nature in slightest. Because some human experts say human are like this
I know what you want. You are a dog person and you want cat's to stay in the house. Because you don't know how to control your dog from hurting cats or other pets . So you want to shift this responsibility to your dogs'prey instead. By " turning upside down" the causality of all things in the nature. While the nature of dog is to take orders. And the nature of cats is freedom. It should be a dog owner like you who should teach dogs to stay indoors and this is not against anyone 's nature both dogs and cats
Westerners like you are neurotic. I am not surprised at all that you guys have mass shooting on daily basic . Nature is in front of you. But you pretend not to see, claiming perverted reasons to distort it for your own benefit
>Because you don't know how to control your dog from hurting cats or other pets
Cats are prey as well as predators, like rats. Dogs are apex predators, like humans. Cats hide in the shadows. Dogs stride in the open. Cats trap small prey. Dogs hunt big game The dog is doing what dogs should do, according to their superiority. This is nature.
>While the nature of dog is to take orders. And the nature of cats is freedom
It is the nature of the dog to work together with others. Dogs are intelligent. Cats are not. Dogs are social. Cats are not. A dog defends your territory as well as theirs, whether or not they take orders, and a dog helps you find food and shares. Does the intelligent husky or akita take orders? No more than a cat. And yet they still care for their owners as much as they care for them.
it is in the nature of the cat to be borderline mindless. All it does is follow instincts, instincts broken by domestication, unable to understand what its relationship to anything really is, unable to understand that you are a human and not a disabled cat, and unable to understand other animals territory, because all a cat naturally does is attempt to claim territory so it can mate, until another animal tries to kill it.
Naturally the wild cat is more alert and agile so it does not get killed so easily. The domesticated cat is much dumber, dumb enough to attempt to feed human caretakers entrails.
As a human who does have thought, it is your duty to protect the cat from how broken their instincts are. If the cat can not have territory without being in mortal danger, according to nature, do not allow it to claim that territory, or just accept that you are fine with the cat dying and don't care about its life.
Because from the perspective of someone who did not take on the responsibility of the cat, the cat is just a pest that shits in their gardens and kills songbirds uninvited. It might be your pet, but people also keep pet rats.
And inb4
>well t-tigers eat dogs
Mutual predation. Packs of dogs also attack tigers.
Now if you had a tiger instead of a rat-cat, would you keep it differently, and respect others more by keeping your pet out of their hair while keeping your pet happy as much as its more limited mind needs?
I think if you had a tiger you would finally behave as a dog owner because the consequences for neglect would be the immediate and horrifying death of another human, rather than inconvenience, dead birds, and some passing parasitic infection that quietly causes miscarriage without anyone noticing. Not because of any care for the animal, because you don't care for the animal, you care for the idea of the animal as an expression of yourself, you live through the animal but you do not actually empathize with them and attempt to understand what is inside their mind and what they truly want. You project, but do not understand.
You fail to treat your cat like a cat. Instead you treat it like a human, but it's not a human. It's a lesser vermin/prey animal. So what happened to your cat?
Injection neutering is not a complete suppression of sex hormones, so your cat maintained its mating instincts. As soon as it smelled an intact male cat, it went out to be close to it so it could mate repeatedly like its instincts force it to. This brings it across roads and the territory of superior animals so you have configured your cats life to make their death more likely. What a good person you are.
Mind you the cat is hardly even aware it exists in space and time.
3.I am not thread a cat like human or like anything. I treat a cat with the basic principles of good owner -pet relationship. That is love for each other. If this principle is overturned. It is not a good owner -pet relationship. It is relationship between master and the slave or animal dealer. Or worse . If the cat wants to go out and you don't let him out. Can you tell that the cat lovers you ? If a cat lovers you . No matter how long it goes out . It will come back on its own . I treat my cats with this principle that lays on the foundation of an equal relationship.
But in the case of you . You see your dog is not equal to you . That wasn't bad enough. You didn't care if the dog loves you or not. If you say you care if dog love you or not but you insult that cats can't love . So you are just a lowly dog owner who think he's better than everyone else. Perhaps this is the reason the bible says not to give the dog holy things. Because dogs and dog owner like you are equally depraved
The one who really fails is you . That fails to look at reality fairly without bias and fail to empathize with other beings whose minds are different from human
keep your fricking pest off other peoples property
>noooo i care about them
your cat eats shit
>noooo i care about them
your off leash dog eats shit
etc, justice doesn't discriminate. domesticated animals are not protected wildlife.
1.Dogs can be hunted and eaten by humans and other animals. your message that it is apex predator is misrepresentation like all your posts. It's sole purpose is to present only " partial" truth. But deliberately avoiding other parts of the truth that contradic the direction of conclusion you wished to take . Lions are also felines that hunt in large areas. And domestic cat have larger area to Hunt and show territory than home area . Deliberately ignore this truth for lock the cats in the house is the action of wicked. You should feel shame
And cats have the same instincts of wild cats that need a place to hunt. If you say we should distort the nature of the cat until it accepts the confinement so why wouldn't the same logic apply to dogs when they are naturally more obedient than cats? And it is a threat to other smaller animals and many times more dangerous to humans than cats. See? This is immoral attempt to use perverted reasoning to distort the nature
2.Dogs are social .But that doesn't mean dogs don't have a natural ability to take commands and follow commands.Cats are not social but that doesn't mean cats can be trained or should be kept against their nature. Cats regularly prevent other cats from entering their territory. This simple facts of cat nature yet you still don't understand also need me to explain to you like a kindergartener. I think your dog better keep your brain from " broken instinct" in distorting your reality first. Because one day it will cause you be stabbed to death on the side of the road
So everything you say doesn't disprove what i have type since the beginning that dogs cause more social problems than cats. And since it is in nature to obey commands therefore deserve to be trained not to harm other animals and stay indoors. On the contrary you refuse to train your own dogs but want to break the wild animal instinct of the cat when it does not naturally accept commands like a dog. This is vile action. Depraved
You are fricking moronic, and this is fricking moronic.
Keep your property... off other peoples property. Other people do not have the obligation to train their dog not to kill a common pest animal. Same reason farmers shoot dogs.
>bbbbut hes my pet rat hes just enjoying his nature because im a good rat owner, train your cat not to kill rats!
Not surprised thailand is a shithole if you feel you represent it.
Your animal is objectively, factually not less happy if you keep it confined to your own property. You are a deranged hypocrite who worships arbitrary animals.
The person who moron is you . Because you rejected the principle of basic relationship between owner and pet. So you don't see your pet as pet but some object. So it's not animals husbandry but animal cruelty as well as commonly found in breeding dogs and cats for sale and poor quality animals shelters
Dog owner love to boast that dogs are smarter than others animals and trainable. But deny responsibility when their dogs cause trouble for society because they don't keep it indoors. You are hypocrite not me .
>Just because an idiot like you says it's incorrect doesn't mean it's incorrect and the reason you claim is the kind that no educated person would agree with
Absolute sophistry. You assume the other person is incorrect because you don't like it, not because you have any factual evidence. All the verbal diarrhea you have typed out in this thread hasn't had literally a single piece of actual evidence, just your supposition. You are claiming the guy you are arguing with is uneducated and simply making a strawman instead of actual arguments. It seems you are the uneducated child and instead of putting some rational thought into your posts, you just point the other way and say, "NO U." Cope more.
No evidence? Real cat owners know what cats are like and everything i type here is common sense that every sane person should know. But a lunatic like you wouldn't have that kind of common sense . During the covid epidemic the rate of sickness and poor health has soared so clearly until government in all countries urgently need help. Does this mean everyone is happier to lock themselves at home? Excuse me where did you graduate from ? All the animals were depressed and sick when they were confined for long periods of time. And what resembles being locked up for a long time is keep pets indoors. And where is your proof that most beings in this world delight in being locked up ? You are uneducated person.
got hit by a car
Your child and your parents were hit by a car