Dachshunds to get banned in Germany

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/28/world/europe/dachshund-dog-breeding-ban-germany.html

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    I don't.Black folk should be sterilized and breeding should be done only with selected zygotes.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did people breed dachshounds?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To dig and get rodents.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i'd say a quarter of them if that are used to do that in current year

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Democracy is a mistake!

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i don't understand why you'd want a dachshund

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine letting the government BAN your dog breed, Euros are so fricking cucked

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This could've been avoidable if they were bred for health and not for looking like a dachsund.

    The government shouldn't always step in but when too many people are acting too moronic at once and they can't be arrested something needs to happen or we end up with fricked up dogs that sad people keep pumping more money into only for them to live miserable lives where they can't even go outside without taking pain meds.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    F.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    4765338
    cry about it cuckold

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    I dont, eugenics is good and genetic midgets should not be allowed to breed.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    People with genetic disorders aren’t being selectively bred for those disorders moron

    [...]
    >Defend this hypocrisy Wauf
    I support human eugenics.

    Based

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I can't and won't. Ever since I was a little kid, I didn't like it when freakshows shat out mini freakshows, it's unethical and cruel to cause more suffering in the world. I'm not even nazi or authright, I'm left of center if anything. But I guess that explains why I don't believe in mandated sterilization. I just quietly judge them for their shitty choices.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If he's talking about the uk, then the XL bully and there are whispers that pugs/frenchies might be banned that come up every year.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    Its a fallacy

    Dogs wont be banned because you arent allowed to breed toadlines and ugly mutts

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    I think they should ban breeds like pugs, french bulldogs and cavaliers

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    At least they don't ban pitbulls. Else they couldn't enjoy pitties slammed to the max core

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    My country has banned breeds for 2 decades and what you're saying hasn't happened

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought Dashshunds were supposed to be healthy breeds?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly breeder associations are evil. They pretend to care about genetic quality but they should put a lot more effort into avoiding physical issues over maintaining a specific look. The focus should be on the genetic quality of the dog. Loyalty, intelligence, strength, a specific purpose like bird hunting or rabbit hunting or pit fighting created perfect breeds naturally. Then breeder associations fricked it up by focusing on looks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some do. The Field Dog Stud Book focuses on hunting dogs. Since it’s a small registry compared to the AKC or UKC and don’t give a flying frick about show aesthetics they focus on working ability and athleticism and any genetic flaw gets found out and cheap puppies become completely unmarketable. Fun fact every intact animal registered with them is banned from LA because they didn’t want to cuck for a bunch of health testing that would raise the cost of puppies by $1000 when the bad genetics get weeded out via market pressure anyway.

        Scale and show/pet focus destroy the breeds and clubs. This type of legislation is useless garbage that’s going to be abused and result in everyone owning mutts and pitbulls.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not with those long backs and tiny legs

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there’s more than person here schizoid now go back

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cry moar redditor

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cope you lost

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean you got savagely BTFO?

      Dog breeding is controlled by people because otherwise we get attacked by wild wolves
      Peoples dog breeding needs to be controlled by a democratic state because otherwise you use breeding as a form of demonstrating dominance and make dogs fricked up just because you dislike wolves
      In the end this is because dogs are less important than people. I like dogs, but no way would they be likable if we didn't employ selective breeding, no animal would be except something tiny and totally out of our niche, so they have to stay this way.

      Treating people like dogs is saying they are less important than the one controlling the breeding, devaluing humanity, and inevitably causing great harm.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only halfway correct. Halfhearted eugenics like making the German shepherd have a specific stance for a breeder competition is bad. But there's a reason the police uses German shepherds. They've also been bred to be intelligent and loyal and strong and active and dangerous. If they keep focusing on those threads the hip dysplasia will go away naturally and we'll get super dogs. Yes there will be failures, see the smashed pitbull thread. But police dogs prove you wrong. They're better dogs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Peoples dog breeding needs to be controlled by a democratic state because otherwise you use breeding as a form of demonstrating dominance and make dogs fricked up just because you dislike wolves
        that sounds patently moronic why would a “””””democratic state”””””” be needed for that

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >reddit spacing
    well i know who won this one

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Believed the neo-Wauf reddit spacing scam
      >Thinks (you)s are upvotes
      >Is the reason moot had to remove sage because he thought they were downvotes
      Go back newbie /misc/yp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cope you lost

      there’s more than person here schizoid now go back

      If you don't link a post number we can't know who you're replying to. Here's a helpful tip: You can click directly on post numbers to automatically add them to the body of your post.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    Humans with known genetic deformities or diseases which severely impact quality of life should be made sterile at birth. This is a very simple thing we should have been doing since the discovery of genetic disease and safe methods of sterilization. Sadly humans are fricking moronic though so we don't do it.
    t. someone with a genetic illness who is PISSED that my parents were allowed to breed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is every time this is attempted it gets political. Last century, women who were political dissidents were sterilized under nazi-inspired policies and on the commie side they were declared insane and locked away for life. Imagine losing your nuts or spending life in prison because you’re not an extrovert or break from the prescribed culture. Imagine all those insane polturds who call you mentally ill for owning a pet before you have 5 children and being anything but a catholic stamping sterilization orders.

      These are the things americans cling to their guns for, because other americans have done all of it! Hitler was inspired by american eugenics program, none of which improved IQ or health. Selective breeding ought not apply to humans. Popsci gays say “just this and this and this” but real life isnt a sciam article where genetic testing is cheap and easy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >none of which improved IQ or health.
        I assume you have a source for this? Saying Hitler was inspired by America’s eugenics program also seems rather dubious given at the time a lot of western countries and even beyond had Eugenics officially enshrined within their health laws, sterilization law in particular. The Swiss Canton of Waadt passed a law saying the mentally ill could be sterilized in 1928. Denmark did similar in 1929, Norway in 1934, Sweden and Finland in 1935, Estonia in 1936, and Iceland in 1938. Cuba, Lithuania, Latvia, Czecho-Slovakia, Yugoslavia, Latvia, Hungary and Mexico also had them. None of it had anything to do with politics. Unless you want to say they were all sterilizing their respective dissidents.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"mental illness" meaning generic terms like feebleminded, promiscuous, immoral, and antisocial
          Let's say the current state starts a eugenics program. Are you a transphobe, homophobe, or racist? Are you an introvert? Do you have fewer than 12 close friends? Do you have political views that significantly deviate from accepted morality? Were you against taking the covid vaccine? Do you believe it would be acceptable to murder any state officials? Off with your nuts. ALL of those are understood to be heritable "mental illness" - prejudiced behavior is heritable and le bad, introversion is le bad and predicts school shootings, you have oppositional defiant disorder and sociopathy. That's how it works. Every single time.

          Eugenics is breeding people like dogs. And like hicks breeding dogs, it does inevitably go as far as shooting the one that comes last when called, and throwing looks in the mix because of crackpot racial theories, resulting in a bunch of inbred slavish pug people.

          Applying eugenics to a species is essentially saying it has no value to you in its current state. If you believe in controlled breeding for dogs and not people, that is not saying you think dogs are more important than people. It's saying dogs are less important than people and need to be turned into exactly what the people in charge want.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do you realize that catholics were overwhelmingly anti Nazi, and are also incredibly anti eugenics? Christians would rescue the infants the Romans (and other pagans when Christianity spread) left exposed to die, often for eugenic or 'family planning' reasons.

        Not even a roman catholic, just tired of seeing incredible ignorance on this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was a thing for quite some time. Unfortunately leftism took root and now “THIS IS LITERALLY THE THIRD REICH!!!” is all you’re met with when the suggestion that people and creatures who’s existences are pure suffering shouldn’t be brought into the world is put forward.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It stopped being a thing because

        The problem is every time this is attempted it gets political. Last century, women who were political dissidents were sterilized under nazi-inspired policies and on the commie side they were declared insane and locked away for life. Imagine losing your nuts or spending life in prison because you’re not an extrovert or break from the prescribed culture. Imagine all those insane polturds who call you mentally ill for owning a pet before you have 5 children and being anything but a catholic stamping sterilization orders.

        These are the things americans cling to their guns for, because other americans have done all of it! Hitler was inspired by american eugenics program, none of which improved IQ or health. Selective breeding ought not apply to humans. Popsci gays say “just this and this and this” but real life isnt a sciam article where genetic testing is cheap and easy

        morons like you inevitably fail to resist using sterilization as a punishment for breaking from your dogma.

        Human genetic improvement can wait until the chinese, due to a lack of religious meddling, perfect designer babies. Even then it'll probably get axed due to a state mandate to modify children to max out collectivist and obedient behavior and create a race of people who do not have or want rights.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it stopped being a thing because of what I said moron.
          >religious meddling
          You mean leftist meddling.
          The Chinese aren’t perfecting anything when they can’t even fix, let alone perfect, their own constantly imploding infrastructure, but somehow they’re about to create designer babies sure thing bud

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Leftists are holding back designer babies
            No, that's the belief that humans are given souls and immeasurable value by God himself when the sperm punctures the egg and the zygote begins developing, which therefore disallows any meddling with an embryo that might harm it. And abortion bans+"go forth and multiply" are a perpetual halt on eugenics. Thank frick.

            Eugenicists have only ever fricked things up. Your theories are not sound. Your understanding is incomplete. And you are incapable of not using sterilization to punish deviation from your dogmas. A eugenicist is incapable of not attempting to breed mankind into his ideal slave race.

            Even here, dogs have proven you can only frick things up. Breeders COULD have made a horde of super intelligent, super healthy dogs that could do anything they could be taught to, instead they made a bunch of hideous single purpose slaves marked with inferiority and made to be disgusting jokes of biology so everyone would know to treat them like the worthless shit they were molded into. Only borderline government oversight (contracts to supply the military) actually result in consistently healthy, long lived, and intelligent dogs otherwise dog breeders are a bunch of bumbling morons employing hick "engineering" and a bit of spite to living things.

            >none of which improved IQ or health.
            I assume you have a source for this? Saying Hitler was inspired by America’s eugenics program also seems rather dubious given at the time a lot of western countries and even beyond had Eugenics officially enshrined within their health laws, sterilization law in particular. The Swiss Canton of Waadt passed a law saying the mentally ill could be sterilized in 1928. Denmark did similar in 1929, Norway in 1934, Sweden and Finland in 1935, Estonia in 1936, and Iceland in 1938. Cuba, Lithuania, Latvia, Czecho-Slovakia, Yugoslavia, Latvia, Hungary and Mexico also had them. None of it had anything to do with politics. Unless you want to say they were all sterilizing their respective dissidents.

            All of these things had to do with politics if you knew what classified as mentally ill back then
            >Be woman
            >Be angry
            >be PERSISTENTLY angry after men have told you to calm down, keep your head down, know your place, and thank god you weren't assigned worse by the bible
            >You are hysterical and need a lobotomy.
            Why do you think feminism is an untouchable issue now? Because of the latent fear the other side will start sterilizing or lobotomizing dissident women again.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >All of these things had to do with politics if you knew what classified as mentally ill back then
              >Because of the latent fear the other side will start sterilizing or lobotomizing dissident women again.
              So it’s a case of “just trust me bro they all didn’t know what they were doing”, I don’t think there’s any discussion to be had here so we can just cut this short
              This weird fantasy of yours also falls short when most of those laws (including the Nazi one) state people can only be sterilized if they’re seen by and approved by specially established courts to display genetic diseases, as in stuff like genetic epilepsy, Huntington’s chorea, genetic blindness and deafness. Don’t see any proof it didn’t work either. You’re going to have to show that it was a conspiracy to scoop naughty women off the street willy nilly to sterilize them for thought crime or something.
              You also seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what eugenics are like most people. Hint: we still do aspects of it today. It includes stuff like voluntary euthanasia, gene editing and abortion of the disabled.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the eugenics laws were totally ok!
                but they werent

                woman were sterilized for adultery and feminism (hysteria)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >woman were sterilized for adultery and feminism
                You're just selling me on eugenics more. moron.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Feminism is eugenics. Women are the biggest pro-eugenics advocates even if they don't know it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                good? they literally used to be killed for that stuff before but i’d settle for just sterilization again

                have a nice day

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                good? they literally used to be killed for that stuff before but i’d settle for just sterilization again

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we can't breed full sibs and father daughters to produce chromosomally smashed abominations
    >this is literally banning sausage dogs!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not entirely their fault. The headline lies to them. But it is partly.

      https://i.imgur.com/73TBUKK.jpeg

      press F for the best dog

      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/28/world/europe/dachshund-dog-breeding-ban-germany.html

      Read it properly you daft bugger for frick's sake.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    homie stop your boomer clickbait it's a ban on breeding practices not breeding dachshunds.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are germans like physiologically unable to not be a totalitarian hellhole without outside intervention? What the frick is their problem?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Austrians are just bootleg germans

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no Marx
      moronation

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Makes sense. Gotta make room for those Syrian dogs.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    The difference is the dogs are selectively bred for the traits that lead to those issues. It's like eugenics for selecting the worst issues.

    Humans aren't being selectively bred for negative traits, so those traits exist without being present in the overall population. I'm all for giving those parents an incentive to abort, though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Humans aren't being selectively bred for negative traits
      Yeah, clearly that's the case when the people who have the most children are also the ones who have the lowest IQ and collect the most welfare / government financial aid

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    Humans and animals are different and should be treated as such. If you think there's a genuine comparison between human eugenics and preventing abusive dog breeding practises then please have a nice day as soon as you are able, thank you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it’s “eugenics” to not want to be forced to give birth to a deformed downie potato baby
      Most sane christcuck

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, it is. Do you know what eugenics are? Hint: it’s not just le heckin bigoted knot sea stuff you and everyone else here is thinking of

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >be forced to give birth to
        /an is pro-choice? Wtf based.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        UN-POTATO ME GOD DAMMIT

        >Humans aren't being selectively bred for negative traits
        Yeah, clearly that's the case when the people who have the most children are also the ones who have the lowest IQ and collect the most welfare / government financial aid

        Low IQ welfare queens are not (necessarily!) a matter of bad breeding. Many poor uneducated people have quite good genes, but are sadly doomed to waste in a cycle of poverty, violence, and learned mediocrity. Those who become boons to humanity through adversity are very rare, and the traits that make them so cannot be bred for. You can have an ethnostate, but don't throw the white baby out with the bathwater.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, so you're admitting the dogs are more important than people? You're fricking hilarious, moron.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >animals and humans are not the same
        Correct
        >we should treat animals more humanely than actual humans
        ???

        Most people would agree that not letting dogs choose their own mates makes them LESS important than people.

        Free mate choice is a way of saying that you are already good enough, if not great, can be trusted, and nothing bad can come of your freedom.
        Being selectively bred is an insult. It more or less says "if we let you frick when you want, you will create hellspawn, stay in your fricking lane".

        Like, take alley cats for example. Because of all the uncontrolled breeding of cats, a lot of "regular ass cat" breed cats you adopt are high maintenance semi-feral nightmares and even professional breeders are having problems purging shitty adrenaline-addled personalities from their gene pools - outdoor cat homosexualry pretty much halted and reversed cat domestication so if you have enough cats within the first 5 you will either be experienced enough to own a wild crossbreed or will just be a really neglectful and abusive pet owner who lets their animals roam around to become canid cuisine. Or think about street dogs. Wherever there are street dogs, they are a hundred times more dangerous than pitbulls, because if they breed uncontrollably they keep getting more edgy, aggressive, and fearful until they're wolves again. Those traits are just better for survival without human aid. We don't let animals breed freely because the only thing that results from their free choice is a bunch of aggressive mutants with eyelid cancer only good enough for fricking and fighting long enough to pump out 2 large litters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. You're creating much more suffering by allowing dysgenics to breed. The low iq create severe societal pressure, torturing everyone smarter than them with their existence. How is that morally more acceptable than dog breeding which are literally animals who don't really matter.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    >Defend this hypocrisy Wauf
    I support human eugenics.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kennel club worries
    If they weren't turning dogs into caricatures of themselves then this wouldn't be such a problem

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    animals and humans are not the same and never will be treated the same. if you can't see that then get in the mass grave where you belong.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >animals and humans are not the same
      Correct
      >we should treat animals more humanely than actual humans
      ???

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>we should treat animals more humanely than actual humans
        who are you quoting? because it's not me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is the worst concept ever created from mankind's delusions
      we are animals
      the earth doesnt belong to us
      people arent equal

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    i genuinely think some of them are castrated in europe

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If pugs frenchies and toadlines get fricked its good then

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    I think its amoral for people with heritsble disabilities to breed. Circumcision and gender "treatment" for minors should be banned as well.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Take a drive

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    @36
    special needs

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    @4761431
    Malding

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    very good

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Kölner Dackelclub 1881 ev says no.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    banning dachsunds to increase shitbull proliferation
    sounds like germany alright

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Behold, the basset hound of the future.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wow that dog is hung like a horse

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would support this if I wasn’t so fricking positive they’re going to use it to make everyone own a homosexualy doodle mix.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Germany
      >Thinking it will be doodles
      In the future, all dogs will basically look like this with minor variations in size, color, and coat thickness with the occasional half-folded ear.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kinda funny, because mine has many many health problems.
        Like random fits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or ban dogs altogether.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Banning dysgenics is the same as banning dogs
        Yeah maybe if you're the AKC

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        slippery slope fallacy
        >it's not a fal-
        yes it fricking is you moronic mongrel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it’s not

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        frick off ahmeratd

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Huskies are dumb and unintelligent.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >inb4 bbbbut these breeds can also have health issues
          Unrelated to their correct body configuration, just dont breed dogs that carry epilepsy/hd/cancer/high pyometra risk/etc

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fact check: True!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fact check: True!

      >see post espousing basic facts about canine health
      >seethe and samegay about huskies
      Did a husky hump your ugly dog or smth

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >crying about basic facts in turn
        cope

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Most people agree that huskies are highly intelligent and can learn commands in 1-2 repetitions, but unfortunately have the critical mental trait of being able to make their own decisions, specifically the decision not to obey your dumb commands.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            didn’t ask stop crying

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're the reason we bully husky owners here

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >we bully husky owners because its a fact that huskies are intelligent but not obedient
              its also a fact about every other primitive breed...

              so lovecraft was right and your average dog person is a spiritual and mental child who automatically loathes anything that was not genetically programmed to serve them and anyone associated with that?

              huskies, akitas, basenjis and shibas are not even near the intelligent-obedience skew of wolves. compared to an f1 wolfdog they are border collies. wolves are at the point of resisting learning if its from a human and only showing the motivation and attention required to other canids.

              your average dog was bred by:
              first killing the ones that did not even look at their handler when given a command. even if these dogs eagerly learned commands for rewards and showed affection, they were collared, dragged behind a stick hunt, and clubbed to death.
              second by killing the ones that responded last. these dogs were also eager to learn and affectionate but they were clubbed to death.
              third by killing the ones that were not already looking at "master" when they walked in. these dogs were eager to learn and affectionate, but they were clubbed to death.
              the prehistoric doggay enjoyed this. he felt he was justified in "rewarding" their "disrespect for the alpha male".

              not all dogs bred this way turned out to be intelligent. labs, for instance, are slavish but dumb as frick. some did because they were simultaneously required to herd sheep.

              your average primitive dog is a personality and intelligence clusterfrick with a lot of variation in the population, like cats, but generally they are of average or above average intelligence and consistently below average slavishness. like cats.

              and just like centuries ago, doggays still get unreasonably angry at the lack of slavishness itself.

              catchads hereby propose a cat-primitive dog alliance. frick manchildren who need slavish animals to feel good about themselves.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he felt he was justified in "rewarding" their "disrespect for the alpha male"
                The concept of a wolf "alpha" didn't even exist until the 20th century

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so lovecraft was right and your average dog person is a spiritual and mental child who automatically loathes anything that was not genetically programmed to serve them and anyone associated with that?

                >humans domesticate wolves
                >for guarding and herding
                >lovecraft is surprised that we don't want disobedient wolves who don't want to listen guard and herd

                we didn't domesticate wolves for no reason
                why is lovecraft confused?
                why should we listen to this moron again?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that mindset is pretty common here though
                stubbornness = intelligence or something like that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stubbornness is unrelated to intelligence.

                Who is smarter, a happy slave, or someone who demands pay for their work and up and fricking leaves if they dont get it? It doesnt matter. The one that learns and remembers the best is smarter regardless of how glad he is to serve you. That last part is irrelevant. Philosophical. You can say “if he knew where his frickin meals came from!” or “well he knows theres better food elsewhere”, it doesnt matter. Learning, memory, and procedural problem solving have nothing to do with eager performance.

                Very few legitimate intelligence studies have been done on dogs. Most breeds werent even eligible because they couldnt be sufficiently motivated, but “the intelligence of dogs” was invalidated regardless when malinois kept scoring above collies and retriever breeds in actual IQ rather than slavishness. Other actual studies found more variations within rather than between breeds. The most likely situation is there is a canine moronation disorder going around and a proportion of ever breed has it.

                Wolves have also been proven to be absolutely intellectually superior. They can solve a team rope pulling test. No dogs, not malinois, not border collies, can. They suck shit at obedience and will not perform. They will learn. They will remember. They will not perform, they will just rob you for the food.

                Cats can not reliably remember which string to pull to dispense a treat. They totally lack the slightest amount of object permanence. They are both stubborn and stupid, which actually makes them better pets.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                We DID domesticate wolves for no reason, and instinctive performance is totally unrelated to intelligence anyways.

                Dog domestication was a total accident and didnt take on a purpose until within a few thousand years of agriculture becoming well established. They were like cats, just there and if you were a regard you’d think they did a job but they really didn't and a somewhat smart person would do as well if not better without one.

                On the timeline, cats are anywhere from 10 to 20 centuries behind dogs so we should see a purpose bred working cat breed arise shortly.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a good thing, you can weed out the bullshit this way. People who struggle to promote their shit dog always go for the mighty husky

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What about toadlines?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone responsible for them should also be lined up against a wall

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those responsible for the toadlines will be crucified along the molten canyons of Hell, chained to the crosses by burning entrails of the damned.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find it truly irrational to advocate for anything but the health, strength and longevity of all dog breeds. It appeals to the very worst aspects of human nature to advocate for the freedom to impair, cripple and uglify dog breeds through the methodical selection of birth defects. Dog breeders should be held accountable for the health of their products. You know a tree by its fruits; and the fruits of current kennel culture are hobbling monstrosities that live for 5 years while barely being able to breathe. making money off suffering.

      "Germany's kennel club worries that legislation could lead to bans on several breeds" is of course total fearmongering, they're just seething about being held accountable for their crimes against nature. God forbid the Dachshund will actually be bred for health and strength, god forbid they will actually live longer, healthier and happier lives as a result of proper oversight. Dachshund aren't going anywhere - but hopefully the poor things they've produced will be spared from procreating, and we'll get happier, healthier and more ethically responsible Dachshunds in exchange.

      Toadlines should be the rare exception as they are the solution to the pitbull problem.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The article criticizes the draft for being poorly written. It will be modified by the German parliament according to said article. It also raises serious questions on how far they’ll go (Golden Retrievers are known to have various types of cancers, Labrador Retrievers are known to have hip displaysia; will they be “banned”? And, what does the German Parliament know about dogs? These types of bills do not address the chief complaint.

    The VDH and all other major European kennel clubs would be well advised to keep their heads down in shame and mouths shut. Had they acted on their guidelines to prevent inhumane breeding: the legislator would not have to step in with “euro-ban fever.”

    Instead, for decades they encouraged or tolerated a steady decline of major breeds into chronically ill breeds with diminishing life spans. Veterinary authorities looked away too, as inhumane breeding resulting in suffering breeds is already illegal under the current law, which seems too vague to enforce it, however. Most major breeds are so genetically indiverse that they are genetically siblings, i.e. no matter which dog of a certain breed you would take it's like letting brother and sister reproduce.

    As for the dachshund, its most common disease is the Dackellähme (dachshund paralysis) stemming from the much too elongated spine, funny that an experienced breeder would claim the Dackel is perfectly healthy. The normal advice is to not let them take stairs because of their back and waist problems. That a breeder would claim the Dackel to be healthy is just laughable!

    It is about time professional breeders and kennel clubs (especially the VDH) put health back in the focus of breeding. This way the legislator would not have to interfere ineffectively.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI slop should be a bannable offense

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was about to dachshund. Should I still do it?

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The law is a health requirement, the breeders are just saying that a health requirement will stop them from being able to do what they want to do (continue to frick up dogs).

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the law apparently bans breeding animals with skeletal abnormalities that lead to suffering, poor health, or a short life expectancy
    >breeders immediately get butthurt
    Just breed dogs that still have working spines.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's probably more a step to protect law enforcement disguised as that though.
      It always is.
      Insurance literally recs this shit to governments too to lower risks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is law enforcement protected by forcing people to breed healthier and stronger dogs?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah it gives the pigs an excuse to stop you if they don't like you and try to find more shit that technically breaks the law.

          A bunch of gangsters and cointelpro-targeted radicals got arrested in the usa because they didn't do their income tax forms correctly. Law enforcement was looking to target them already but didn't have shit they could conclusively prove in court.

          If a meme law passes in a western country expect it to have this purpose for use against people the government doesn't like.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/73TBUKK.jpeg

      press F for the best dog

      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/28/world/europe/dachshund-dog-breeding-ban-germany.html

      [...]
      The law is a health requirement, the breeders are just saying that a health requirement will stop them from being able to do what they want to do (continue to frick up dogs).

      Germany is back on the Eugenics train?

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based, frick breeders. Health first.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we should ban the breeding of animals with physical deformities
      I guess we need to keep you from breeding so you that you wont create sons with deformed tiny dicks. Its inhumane to perpetuate your mortifying condition onto future generations of humans.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ma'am you're becoming hysterical

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    every kennel club breeder should be rounded up and shot

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based, frick breeders. Health first.

      cuck mentality

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good.

        >NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO RESPECT MY FREEDOM TO FORCIBLY INSEMINATE ANIMALS TO MAKE INBRED FREAKS
        Eat shit lmfao.

        FREEDOM does not mean freedom to do harm, it means freedom FROM harm.

        The article criticizes the draft for being poorly written. It will be modified by the German parliament according to said article. It also raises serious questions on how far they’ll go (Golden Retrievers are known to have various types of cancers, Labrador Retrievers are known to have hip displaysia; will they be “banned”? And, what does the German Parliament know about dogs? These types of bills do not address the chief complaint.

        The VDH and all other major European kennel clubs would be well advised to keep their heads down in shame and mouths shut. Had they acted on their guidelines to prevent inhumane breeding: the legislator would not have to step in with “euro-ban fever.”

        Instead, for decades they encouraged or tolerated a steady decline of major breeds into chronically ill breeds with diminishing life spans. Veterinary authorities looked away too, as inhumane breeding resulting in suffering breeds is already illegal under the current law, which seems too vague to enforce it, however. Most major breeds are so genetically indiverse that they are genetically siblings, i.e. no matter which dog of a certain breed you would take it's like letting brother and sister reproduce.

        As for the dachshund, its most common disease is the Dackellähme (dachshund paralysis) stemming from the much too elongated spine, funny that an experienced breeder would claim the Dackel is perfectly healthy. The normal advice is to not let them take stairs because of their back and waist problems. That a breeder would claim the Dackel to be healthy is just laughable!

        It is about time professional breeders and kennel clubs (especially the VDH) put health back in the focus of breeding. This way the legislator would not have to interfere ineffectively.

        Banning the specific dogs that pass on cancer or HD or fricked up faces that can not breathe or communicate will be banned. Maybe even wrinkly skin that gets infected, giant fricking ears that serve no purpose (hounds outdone in scentwork by toy spitzes!), and the gross droopy lips that just get injured and leak drool. The average doggay will FINALLY be forced to breed deformities out of working stock without changing the fact that they are working stock, admitting that centuries of tradition was medieval midwit nonsense mixed with the typical central european's violent and vitriolic hatred of nature.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think fricking up dogs is bad but you sound like a woman/insufrable homosexual

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            t. low t soi scared by BIG LETTERS

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            One of our local psychopaths trolling around because he's a fricking psychopath. Ignore &/or report and scroll on. They do this stupid shit in every thread.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Trolling
              >"Freedom doesnt mean freedom to hurt things"
              >"Dogs with health issues and deformities shouldn't be bred"
              Nice self narration psycho

              Are you that weirdo christcuck that writes cringe DnD campaign sounding rants about how dogs should be as ugly as possible because its "heckin trad" to hate wolves?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're the homosexual here

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's not what freedom means either, Hans

    • 2 months ago
      sage

      Why do Germans like to ban everything? Are shitbulls banned also at least?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pitbulls will be allowed because they make women horny

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >just gradually frick my country up bro

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poor germangay. Can't catch a break since WWI

      The article criticizes the draft for being poorly written. It will be modified by the German parliament according to said article. It also raises serious questions on how far they’ll go (Golden Retrievers are known to have various types of cancers, Labrador Retrievers are known to have hip displaysia; will they be “banned”? And, what does the German Parliament know about dogs? These types of bills do not address the chief complaint.

      The VDH and all other major European kennel clubs would be well advised to keep their heads down in shame and mouths shut. Had they acted on their guidelines to prevent inhumane breeding: the legislator would not have to step in with “euro-ban fever.”

      Instead, for decades they encouraged or tolerated a steady decline of major breeds into chronically ill breeds with diminishing life spans. Veterinary authorities looked away too, as inhumane breeding resulting in suffering breeds is already illegal under the current law, which seems too vague to enforce it, however. Most major breeds are so genetically indiverse that they are genetically siblings, i.e. no matter which dog of a certain breed you would take it's like letting brother and sister reproduce.

      As for the dachshund, its most common disease is the Dackellähme (dachshund paralysis) stemming from the much too elongated spine, funny that an experienced breeder would claim the Dackel is perfectly healthy. The normal advice is to not let them take stairs because of their back and waist problems. That a breeder would claim the Dackel to be healthy is just laughable!

      It is about time professional breeders and kennel clubs (especially the VDH) put health back in the focus of breeding. This way the legislator would not have to interfere ineffectively.

      Context anon saves the day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eines eurer Bundesländer wertet nicht länger Rechtschreibfehler bei der Matura und ihr habt ein Gesetzt, wonach sich ein Bürger einmal jährlich das Geschlecht umschreiben lassen darf.
      You deserve what you tolerate.

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