>Can fly
>Can grow to ridiculous sizes
>Super efficient respiratory system
>Tetrachromatic (see more colors than us)
>More efficient brains than Mamm*ls
Are dinosaurs the ultimate lifeforms?
>Can fly. >Can grow to ridiculous sizes. >Super efficient respiratory system
>tfw will never get a head (beak?) from an african gray
?t=16
I don't think so
unf
You will never be a dinosaur.
>Crocodiloid
And neither will you, hell, you're worse off considering you diverged from the ancestors of dinosaurs hundreds of millions of years ago.
What's ironic is pigeons probably are bigger than the theropod all birds descended from.
The only reason bird and dinosaur are different words is because people found birds first
Now that we know birds are just a surviving dinosaur we can call them dinosaurs without exception.
>Now that we know
The stupidity continues.
Yes, WE know. As in, all people smarter than you. Participants in culture. The right side of history. Giants standing upon giants upon giants and all those hanging on.
Not you. Some frickoff regressionist hermit who jumped off to muck around in sewage.
"Bird" is a cultural distinction. They are theropod dinosaurs.
>tHe StUpiDiTy ConTinUEs!1!
Extremely ironic thing to say as soon as (You) return.
>ITT: anons replying to bait for days
There's no such thing as bait. There are so many fricking morons on earth that in the off chance anon is actually faking it there's someone out there who actually thinks like that so may as well argue by proxy.
Jurassic Park came out in 1993.
There's a generation of basement dwellers that have spent more time watching the movies than studying for their biology class.
They actually believe "birds are dinosaurs" because of Hollywood.
>Generation of basement dwellers that watch Jurassic Park and spend more times watching the movies than studying
>They actually believe 'bird are dinosaurs"
Look at this moron centrist trying to play both sides lmao. You aren't special.
The continued bastardization of the term "Dinosaur" is what the scientific community gets for trying to make "Bug" a scientific term.
We'll find a term to bastardize to mean "all the weird shit that evolved during the Cambrian explosion" if you keep it up. Common use chads run this language.
>We'll find a term to bastardize to mean "all the weird shit that evolved during the Cambrian explosion" if you keep it up.
Animal.
Amnimals.
efficient respiratory system
>breathes in smoke
>dies
>Can fly
Thanks to styrofoam bones
>Can grow to ridiculous sizes
Depending on environmental conditions
>Super efficient respiratory system
Depending on environmental conditions
>Tetrachromatic (see more colors than us)
Depending on environmental conditions, useless comparison.
>More efficient brains than Mamm*ls
Considering environmental conditions
>
>Are dinosaurs the ultimate lifeforms?
I can replicate the exact conditions that back in the day made them into flying rats they are right now.
But sure, have you tweeter tier meme, it's all you good for anyways.
>Depending on environmental conditions
Wow, just like every other living being on Earth, who would have thought?
Yeah, I thought of coming out with something, but holy shit, birds, and fungi, are THE sorry example of how evaluation btfo's lifeforms into a fricking insect just depending on oxygen percentage and some ambient environment.
Keep your fried chicken nugget delusions to yourself while humans continuously evolve into the giant race with every passing year while burning the frick out that oxygen so that one day we could leave you failed poppies experiments cooking in this planet size oven for good.
braindead esl.
>Depending on environmental conditions
Mammalian cope
>noooo birds are cool they can eat mice and stuff
*throws a rock*
Holy cope, Batman!
African greys are autistic and wieneratoos are schitzo this is not debatable.
now, touch purple.
pour water
glass
They also deadname trannies and laugh while saying the heckin n word
>pterodactyls are not dinosaurs because they could fly
>Le birds are... Le dinosaurs!
Once again, may we skip to the part where you admit you were only pretending to be a moron? The dick ain't gonna suck itself.
Other dude wasn't me, but:
>Part of what separates dinosaurs from pterosaurs are their hip and arm bones. All dinosaurs have a hole in their hip socket and a crest on their upper arm bone; all pterosaurs do not.
And once again, modern birds are not dinosaurs.
If you are arguing birds came from pterosaurs, hoo boy, you're one fricking moronic mongoloid.
I'm making the point that if a pterosaur isn't a dinosaur, why would you think a fricking pigeon is?
Crocodiles lived alongside dinosaurs- but crocodiles are not dinosaurs either.
Dinosaurs are a specific group of animals.
They're all dead.
If you think otherwise than you lack a basic understanding of.....everything- genetics, taxonomy, evolution.
Those who counter with "but there's NEW evidence and concepts and..and...SCIENCE!!" are the same people who think "gender is a spectrum" and "race doesn't exist because I heard theres a study that says there's more differences between individuals within a race than between races!!".
>but there's NEW evidence
This "new" evidence is 150 years old, fricking Huxley and Cope already knew where birds came from.
>where birds came from
You just btfo yourself.
Imagine your life being so pitiful and boring that the only thing that makes you stand out from everyone else is being the guy who pretends to be a contrarian moron on a zoophile board, Pretty pathetic, huh?
By this logic.... crocs and pterosaurs aren't archosaurs? I'm sorry real life isn't like that movie produced by your favorite Hollywood israelite, anon ;(
A gopher is a mammal.
A gopher is not a primate.
A Pigeon and a Tyrannosaurus Rex have a common ancestor.
A Tyrannosaurus Rex is not a bird.
A Pigeon is not a dinosaur.
This is schrodingers cat.
If a bird is a dinosaur then a dinosaur is a bird. You cannot have one without the other.
A dinosaur is not a bird therefore a bird is not a dinosaur.
Trolling is against site rules anon 😉
A pigeon is a dinosaur. Not directly descended from T rex, but still a direct descendant of a theropod that retains feathered theropod morphology.
Or are feathered theropods not dinosaurs as soon as they are too endothermic and fuzzy for you?
>descendant of a theropod
You said it yourself.
Not a therapod but evolved from one.
We're not debating that. All organisms evolved from a previous lifeform. Therapod is the most likely candidate for bird's ancestor.
But dinosaurs are a specific group of animals.
They're all dead.
They only exist in fossil form.
Once they evolved into birds they stopped BEING dinosaurs.
Feathers are an attribute of birds not a defining characteristic.
Like wings.
Bats have wings but bats are not birds.
Rosy boas have a pelvic girdle and remnants of legs called "spurs", which they can move like a finger.
That doesn't mean they're actually lizards.
There are legless lizards- the lack of legs does not make them a snake.
>eyelids. Eyelids is the correct answer.
>mice are no longer rodents because they evolved from them, but that means they were once them, but now aren't
This is genuinely how stupid you sound rn.
>doesn't understand kingdom/family/species
What a fricking idiot.
You shouldn't have dropped out of high school.
>he thinks Linnean taxonomy as it is taught to schoolchildren is authoritative
>as it is taught
Compared to your fantasy?
You're a fricking loser with 5,000 pokemon cards.
You dream about making a furry suit for comiccon.
Your knowledge of archaic species is from Hollywood because you didn't pass earth101 in high school and never made it to basic biology, let alone anything advanced enough to u derstand evolution.
I honestly hope you're like 12 years old because if you're an actual adult then it's just sad.
Any definition of Lizard which includes geckos and varanids also includes snakes.
Jesus what a fricking idiot.
The actual definition of "lizard" excludes snakes.
There is zero (0) references in the entire world of a snake BEING a lizard, they're only grouped together higher up in taxonomy in the Order Squamata.
I give up.
Enjoy spending your life flipping burgers.
Are you familiar with Venn's diagrams and Russian dolls?
Imagine being this confidently wrong
>That doesn't mean they're actually lizards
Who’s gonna tell him that snakes are lizards
lizard
noun
liz·ard ˈli-zərd
1
: any of a suborder (Lacertilia) of reptiles distinguished from the snakes by a fused inseparable lower jaw, a single temporal opening, two pairs of well differentiated functional limbs which may be lacking in burrowing forms, external ears, and eyes with movable lids
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lizard
Snakes don't have eyelids.
>Later authors used the term "Sauria" in a more restricted sense, i.e. as a synonym of Lacertilia, a suborder of Squamata that includes all lizards but excludes snakes. This classification is rarely used today because Sauria so-defined is a paraphyletic group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizard
>quoting from Wikipedia over Mirriam-Webster.
Idiocracy wasn't suppose to be an instruction manual, but here we are....
>"Mirriam-Webster" is a authority on zoology
Lol
>using Miriam Webster as the basis of an argument regarding biological terms
Holy fricking moron. There is no taxonomic grouping that includes both Komodo dragons and legless lizards that does not also include snakes.
>snakes don’t have eyelids
Neither do a lot of legless lizards
>includes both Komodo dragons and legless lizards that does not also include snakes.
Ho Lee fuk you're a moron.
Literally Order: Squamata.
Specifically includes lizards, including legless and komodo dragons and EXCLUDES snakes.
Post a legless lizards that doesn't have eyelids.
And they're still categorized as lizards, not snakes.
Because there are rules.
Which is why organisms are grouped in order and genus and species, groupings based on more or less shared attributes.
A Pigeon can be grouped in therapods but cannot be grouped in dinosaurs.
That will never change.
You seriously need an education.
>have group of frogs on eastern side of mountain and another group on western side.
>both groups look the same and act the same.
>because the mountain is impassable the two groups do not interbreed.
>by taxonomy standards they are 2 separate subspecies.
That's just one example of the rules.
Pluto is no longer considered a planet because of the rules.
YOU don't get to ignore the rules because of your autistic fantasies.
>A Pigeon can be grouped in therapods but cannot be grouped in dinosaurs.
Ya blew it.
>And they're still categorized as lizards, not snakes. Because there are rules
They seem to fit most of your rules for being a snake though
>Which is why organisms are grouped in order and genus and species, groupings based on more or less shared attributes
What a ground breaking revelation
>A Pigeon can be grouped in therapods but cannot be grouped in dinosaurs. That will never change.
It already has. Your inability to understand it doesn’t make a difference
>You seriously need an education
Dunning, meet Kruger. You are the one unable to grasp how evolutionary relationships decide phylogeny, and not just physical features that may or may not be derived or basal
>YOU don't get to ignore the rules because of your autistic fantasies
You don’t seem to know what these rules are
>have group of frogs on eastern side of mountain and another group on western side.
>both groups look the same and act the same.
>because the mountain is impassable the two groups do not interbreed.
>by taxonomy standards they are 2 separate subspecies
Why subspecies and not species? Also if they are behaviourally and physically the same why would you not just assume they are disjunct populations of the same species? What about species that overlap in range and interbreed yet are considered distinct? You have a high school level understanding
>This fricking cute
Can't believe lizards make better snakes than actual snakes.
>Literally Order: Squamata.
>Specifically includes lizards, including legless and komodo dragons and EXCLUDES snakes.
you’re such a fricking moron you didn’t even check to see whether or not snakes a squamates before talking about a subject you know frick all about. Snakes are squamates, and are part of the same branch of lizards that Varanids are. A Komodo dragon is closer to a snake than it is to a gecko
>Post a legless lizards that doesn't have eyelids
Just about every legless Pygopod doesn’t have eyelids. There are also lizards without external ears. Where does your Miriam Webster definition sit now?
>got wiped out by a spicy rock
Get rekt, frickin' morons
>no opposable thumbs
it's over dinosisters
Whole lot of seething, coping mammaloids ITT
>More efficient brains than Mamm*ls
Dolphins are smarter and dolphins are mammals.
I'm not even convinced that birds came from or are related to dinosaurs. MAYBE a cousin species or some shit. I'll grant you that their feet look pretty similar, even down the the skin resembling the skin we have seen on dinosaur remains but I don't know. It's not something I've looked all that deeply into but my gut reaction for whatever reason is doubt.
Everything evolved from something.
If they evolved from dinosaurs it's just a novel side note in the appendix at the back of the book. They stopped BEING dinosaurs before primates even existed.
they stopped being dinosaurs before the dinosaurs died, thats how only birds are
Birds are just plain superior in every way. Even the most handsome human archetypes are just pale and crude imitations of avian splendor.
I wouldn't exactly call Ichabod Crain as a handsome human.
Why's that mammalgay?
Because bird faces on people only look good in live action movies.
You mean real life? The only reason bird features look bad in animation is because of humans inherent mammalian inferiority complex manifesting itself.
Lmao sure. Show me someone with a big nose then.
>Goblinoid
>Handsome
kek
>Goblinoid
Words that only someone whose cultural references are just fantasy and video games would conceive
while there's smart birds most of them have smooth brains like a koala
>Dinosaur
>Pic is a bird
Choose one.
STINKY >:^(
apollo stop chewing
a more space efficient brain sure but for some reason they basically operate on the level of a dog with a calculator strapped to its forehead.
true self awareness AKA the soul is a neural circuit unique to mammals. birds have the self recognition of a computer that knows its own MAC address and nothing more. no identity, and no concept of themselves as something with free will.
Birds are smart
total avian victory
>durrhurr birds are dinosaurs.
They may have EVOLVED from dinosaurs.
That doesnt make them dinosaurs.
Except for the platypus and echidna- all mammals have 7 neck bones.
Blue whale giraffe, mouse, human....
Because we all evolved from a small, burrowing shrew-like creature that survived the K-T event.
That doesn't mean people are gophers.
Stop being a fricking moron.
People laugh at you.
And they will continue to laugh at you for your entire life.
Thank you for telling us you don't understand cladistics, it makes it way easier for us to laugh at and ignore your ramblings.
A fricking pterodactyl isn't even a dinosaur your brain dead mouth breather.
Shitty b8, nobody even mentioned pterosaurs, try again.
>pterodactyl isn't a dinosaur.
>penguin IS a dinosaur.
The liberal millennial brain has the IQ of a turnip.
The sciences eluded them and they have resorted to using Hollywood as a resource because they have no other knowledge.
These are the same people that call an mRNA therapy a vaccine.
It wasn't suppose be a documentary...
Yeah, no. not falling for that b8. Here's another (You) since you seem especially thirsty today.
>if we change definitions to match our theories we can prove that we're right!!
Dinosaurs were reptiles.
Reptiles are cold-blooded.
Birds are not cold-blooded.
Therefore birds cannot be reptiles.
Therefore birds cannot be dinosaurs.
If you want to claim that "some dinosaurs were warm blooded and birds evolved from them" then those "dinosaurs" would, by definition, be reclassed to a different clade apart from dinosaurs.
Which means birds evolved from something that was not a dinosaur.
In other words.
You're still a fricking moron.
>But-but muh common ancestor
This is what discovery channel education does to a mf (maga homosexual)
You haven't disproven a single point I've made in this thread.
Nor have you.
Dinosaurs were reptiles.
Reptiles are cold-blooded.
Birds are not cold-blooded.
Therefore birds cannot be reptiles.
Therefore birds cannot be dinosaurs.
>Most Fish: Cold blooded
>Shark: Mesotherm
>Tuna: Mesotherm
>Therefor.... Shark and Tuna not Fish?
You genuinely have to be trolling.
Also, sidenote, dinosaurs were probably mesotherms too.
I should really stop feeding (You) anymore (You)s but I kinda wanna see how far down you'll stoop to seem unique and edgy by acting like a fricking moron.
That's a side effect of their size.
They do not regulate their body temperature.
It's basically waste heat from muscle activity- in the same manner that pythons warm eggs by "twitching".
They're still cold blooded.
You don't even understand the science you're quoting.
Dumbfrick.
>N-noooooooo! Mesothermy only works how I want it to work!
Can we just get to the part where you tell us you were simply pretending to be a moron so you can suck my wiener already? I've been hanging here for 30 mins now.
>has no counter arguments against facts presented.
Once again everything I've stated is true and you have resorted to ad hominems.
Yeah, ok Mr. "TRANNIES TRANNIES CHINA CHINA WOMEN WOMEN"
>trannies women
Oxymoron
>trannies and women are the same!
So you're saying an MtF is a... real woman?
Thank you for playing, please insert 3 coins to continue.
>American education
Verification not required.
>dinosaurs were reptiles
Nobody tell him about tegus
Everyone knows there's no point actually linking to shit you could google yourself. You'll just argue in a less entertaining way.
You are simply wrong. Deal with it moron.
"Cold blooded" and "warm blooded" are completely meaningless and unscientific terms.
Non-avian dinosaurs were endothermic AKA warm-blooded.
>That doesn't mean people are gophers.
Yeah, but it does mean both people and gophers are mammals. Much like a parrot and a T-Rex are both dinosaurs.
I love when midwits like you find out a single normiefact is wrong and think everything normies have ever repeated is the opposite of truth
they're literally dinosaurs. this is obvious when you look at the feet.
one day we’ll have egg like artificial wombs and return to bird
>Night falls
>Can't see shit, can't hear shit, can't smell shit
>MAMMALS eat all their eggs and drive them extinct
Nothing personnel Tweety
>Night falls
>Can't see shit, can't hear shit, can't smell shit
Mammal chads. Our time has co-ACK!
>night falls
>sleep in comfy cave
Allow me to introduce myself
Are you a man of wealth and taste, that's been around for a long long years?
> Night falls.
> Developed friendship with dogs and cats long ago and both are autistic about killing snakes.
crazy that snakes have been chasing mammals in burrows since the mesozoic
don't google Tupinambis merianae
>snake
nature's sausage
In many ways Odontocetes converge and exceed Dinosaurian expectations. Their fats are basically wax for instance.
The complexity of their nasal passages are something else.
Yes
POMF =3
Craw!
What are we gonna do on the bed?
have a nice day
no u