Cats are capable of actual affection, dogs just develop stockholm's. Especially ones like huskies and samoyeds that will literally shit themselves and get ptsd if you leave them alone for more than 1 second. Cats decide for themselves whether or not they like you, don't have to be taught basic things like not to shit on the bed, and are fine if you have to leave them alone for a few hours or even days.
You are basically paraphrasing a closeted gay man who hated dogs as a proxy for his fear of normal people with traditional values, as his deep seated fear and hatred of his own sexuality caused him to totally withdraw from the workforce and any segment of society he did not explicitly consent to participating in. In addition to that you have the context of the day - spay and neuter surgeries were expensive and dangerous so few people truly had a pet cat to themselves. You could also say dogs are like that... in a third world country like mexico, where dogs are still community pets.
Back in reality, it's the other way around. Dogs are the ones that are capable of developing actual affection. Cats lack the ability to, and just develop false attachment through operant conditioning.
The dog is a willing accomplice or their discontent is obvious.
The cat however is never more than an unwitting slave.
The dog makes demands. The cat has behaviors. The dog is bargained with, the cat is directly controlled.
The cat complains, and soon forgets what the issue was. The dog displays continued depression and resentment, and stops at nothing if they have decided to escape.
The dog is paid and the cat is brainwashed. it's never been any other way. Even when the animals are community pets, the cat likes food and safety, and the dog is the only one to form true attachments, as it often is when a dog chooses the companionship of a man's father even though he is not the one that feeds them.
Can confirm. I've had my cat locked in a closet with its litterbox since I got my pitbull. It meowed for the first two days but now it accepts its cage. But the pitbull gets what the pitbull asks for or I spend time working out a deal.
Cats are only fine alone for days if you don't value a clean home btw. You'd be surprised how quickly they start shitting and pissing outside of their cuck box. Meanwhile my dog won't even shit in my yard some days, he demands to be taken to a better shitting spot and will not shit unless I let him lead me to it and will hold it in if denied his preferred toilet before finally letting loose in my shoes.
8 months ago
Anonymous
My cat never goes outside her box, yours is doing it because you’re abusing her. Please rehome her that’s really cruel. She needs a window at least to look out of, or see daylight.
>be wrong >get comprehensively btfo by your intellectual superior >HELP MANIFESTO ESSAY I CANT READ
Dogs see you as friends and family and cats claim you as a food dispenser.
I have owned 7 cats. They don’t choose anything except the pace i am applying their conditioning regimen to rehab them into indoor only pets or stop them from fighting. You can strive to master a dog, but you own a cat.
8 months ago
Anonymous
master is a term used for when the submissive has a choice
owner is used when they don’t (or lack the capability to)
one masters a dog
but one owns a cat
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Mistreat a Cat >It runs away
>Mistreat a dog >It normalises the violence like abused woman
Reason dogs were used for learned helplessness study kek
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah. I mistreat my cat pretty frequently and it still sticks to my legs so often I trip over it.
Mistreating dogs is a great way to get bit.
Cats get absolutely no choice. They are indoor cuck pets. Chucking it outside doesn't make it free any more than letting your dog out the front door does. It just means it might get hit by a car before it comes crawling back because it doesn't know where else to get food.
8 months ago
Anonymous
More dogay's obvious kek. If a Cat gets loose outside it will survive on their own even in a forest. In fact wildcats are a big problem. But dogs must remain near humans so they can eat trash to survive. They are too mutated from wolves to hunt anything. And when they are left to breed freely they become ugly pariah dogs with silly curled tails.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Dogs cant survive outside but when they do they're ugly
Most intelligent cat worshiping liberal.
Cat can jump on or hide under furniture. And they are fast to shoot through opened door if you not careful. What will the dog do? In most cases it cowers down. At most it may run to another room. And kek what dog bites it's owner? Maybe monster inbred American dogs do so but in civil places human aggressiveness is taken out of the bloodline. Not so it matters, if you hit a cat it will bite you aswell so it is a nonargument.
Nope
As someone who has beaten misbehaving dogs and choked out cats the animals respond the same, like animals. The cat has more ways to hide but when you get to them they give up fast. Yes, they can scratch, but I'm stronger than claws. Dogs will struggle and fight you and cats will, but a dog is only a few kicks from learning who is in charge and it does not take many times with your hands tightening around its pathetic little neck for a cat to learn to stay off the counter. Especially when you have it by the throat and hold it in the sink with water running. ooooh the cat is fast and can jump! I am smarter and have a water gun and an air horn that make hiding places irrelevant.
Cats do not choose anything. ANIMALS in general do not choose anything. You permit them to choose because you want them to. The only extra choice a dog gets is being strong enough to do damage, but I am stronger than any dog as well. The ones that continue to resist are killed. They still exist, everywhere, I am from serbia even, but still, they die. My father killed disobedient animals of every species and everything I know I learned from him.
Humans get a choice but animals and women do not get any more choice than people permit them.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Cats get loose and then they die anywhere that has predators same as dogs
>dogs don’t survive on their own! >but also they do and become pariah dogs!
>Dogs cant survive outside but when they do they're ugly
Most intelligent cat worshiping liberal.
[...]
Nope
As someone who has beaten misbehaving dogs and choked out cats the animals respond the same, like animals. The cat has more ways to hide but when you get to them they give up fast. Yes, they can scratch, but I'm stronger than claws. Dogs will struggle and fight you and cats will, but a dog is only a few kicks from learning who is in charge and it does not take many times with your hands tightening around its pathetic little neck for a cat to learn to stay off the counter. Especially when you have it by the throat and hold it in the sink with water running. ooooh the cat is fast and can jump! I am smarter and have a water gun and an air horn that make hiding places irrelevant.
Cats do not choose anything. ANIMALS in general do not choose anything. You permit them to choose because you want them to. The only extra choice a dog gets is being strong enough to do damage, but I am stronger than any dog as well. The ones that continue to resist are killed. They still exist, everywhere, I am from serbia even, but still, they die. My father killed disobedient animals of every species and everything I know I learned from him.
Humans get a choice but animals and women do not get any more choice than people permit them.
Evil but true. You can allow either animal choice or deny it. It might be harder to break a cats spirit because they’re dumber but most people keep cats in conditions that would cause dogs to become insanely destructive and aggressive.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Clearly your english is worse than mine. If you take a cat into the forest and leave it be there is a chance it will last for some years. A dog will wander until it starves, they rely entirely on humans' waste to live as feral creatures.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Uh no. It’s about the empty niche or lack thereof. Feral dogs do am excellent job kf surviving without people in the american southwest, but feral cats can’t make it more than a half mile from the nearest human anywhere on the continent. Both survive fine in Australia and sensitive island ecosystems. Wild dogs also do very well in africa, but cats don’t because they’re outcompeted by the natural wild cats.
The other guys analysis was correct. You just worship cats so the only truth in “cats choose, dogs obey” is that it is the situation you will allow in your own home.
8 months ago
Anonymous
First, I do not "worship" Cats kek. America moment where there must be two teams. Second you are obviously wrong. Feral Cat had wiped out many native specie. They live in generations in the wild. Of course they is eaten sometimes which animal isn't? Silly thing to say. Coyote eats peoples' dog in their own gardens aswell kek. Well then let's see these wild dogs that live in the African bush? As for Australia, there isn't really a predator to dogs apart from Dingo and the weather barely changes from seasons. Even humans survive in those conditions easily kek.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Dingoes are dogs. In Australia, which is one of the few places that can support truly wild housecats. How about those fully wild dogs in india? Or the russian dogs that live in the woods away from people? Or reservation dogs in the US, that the indians turned loose on purpose and don’t rely on people to survive - unless you count wolf removal.
Yes you do worship cats. You need to have a team apparently and that team is “claim cats are perfect and dogs suck”. I am just telling you how it is. Domesticated animals in general aren’t great at surviving because they are derived directly from a better animal that will immediately outcompete them if it or an equivalent is present. Cats and dogs alike succeed and fail at surviving in various places.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Dingoes are dogs.
Er, and tigers is cats? Kek this is too silly now. Goodnite. But one thing, of all possibilities why try and larp as serb? Too funny sis
8 months ago
Anonymous
Dingoes are literally dogs. Exact same species. They’re the dogs the abbos brought with them gone feral. Also I’m not the serb, but that sounds like the serb thats really into dogfighting and hating women. He’s been here longer than you rajesh.
8 months ago
Anonymous
not only are dingoes dogs, they make lovely pets. someone i know from work has three.
its like husky + malinois + pitbull.
8 months ago
Anonymous
feral cats haven’t wiped out shit except in island ecosystems where dogs do the same thing. anywhere else humans just pin the blame on townie cats because the real cause was habitat destruction.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>leave cat >instantly eaten by coyote >leave dog >mauls a coyote and fricks a female wolf
k. inb4 >nnnno that doesn’t count, in my caliphate we aggressively kill and beat dogs so they are all uselessly submissive but we let the cats do what they want!
Yeah that’s just your shithole. If you vanished the dogs would turn into dingos in 5 years and 90% of the cats would turn into dog turds.
8 months ago
Anonymous
anon please explain how the cat, which is locked inside, can run away. it's not like it can chew through a doors and walls or operate latches like a dog. you can kick a cat for fun and it can't do anything except hide under the couch.
abused cats are known for hiding and abused dogs are known for biting and escaping
which animal gets a choice?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Cat can jump on or hide under furniture. And they are fast to shoot through opened door if you not careful. What will the dog do? In most cases it cowers down. At most it may run to another room. And kek what dog bites it's owner? Maybe monster inbred American dogs do so but in civil places human aggressiveness is taken out of the bloodline. Not so it matters, if you hit a cat it will bite you aswell so it is a nonargument.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>if you hit a cat it will bite
they just cower
eventually they freeze and you can pick them up
8 months ago
Anonymous
if you're cats don't follow you around and sit on you and talk to you and slow blink at you and other obvious signals that they love you then you're doing cats wrong that's all
anon people smarter than you can shit out literal 10 page essays while they sip wine. and by people smarter than you i mean anyone who graduated college with a GPA greater than 3.
wiener
Better watch your belly op, he's gunna getcha.
he's just trying to suck my dick again as usual
million pity
ok
How do cat gays cope with only owning manlet animals
>m-muh Tigers
You will never own a Tiger and if you do your local authorities will put it down and throw you in jail.
No it's not. I have to go to work and I can't leave my dog home alone, so I don't have a dog. But I wish I had a dog.
Dogs are for gays who can't have kids, get a cat or a betta instead.
You want him to get a cat or a fish and HE'S gay?
Reevaluate, anon.
Cats are capable of actual affection, dogs just develop stockholm's. Especially ones like huskies and samoyeds that will literally shit themselves and get ptsd if you leave them alone for more than 1 second. Cats decide for themselves whether or not they like you, don't have to be taught basic things like not to shit on the bed, and are fine if you have to leave them alone for a few hours or even days.
why must you gays turn every thread into this shit
frick off
You are basically paraphrasing a closeted gay man who hated dogs as a proxy for his fear of normal people with traditional values, as his deep seated fear and hatred of his own sexuality caused him to totally withdraw from the workforce and any segment of society he did not explicitly consent to participating in. In addition to that you have the context of the day - spay and neuter surgeries were expensive and dangerous so few people truly had a pet cat to themselves. You could also say dogs are like that... in a third world country like mexico, where dogs are still community pets.
Back in reality, it's the other way around. Dogs are the ones that are capable of developing actual affection. Cats lack the ability to, and just develop false attachment through operant conditioning.
The dog is a willing accomplice or their discontent is obvious.
The cat however is never more than an unwitting slave.
The dog makes demands. The cat has behaviors. The dog is bargained with, the cat is directly controlled.
The cat complains, and soon forgets what the issue was. The dog displays continued depression and resentment, and stops at nothing if they have decided to escape.
The dog is paid and the cat is brainwashed. it's never been any other way. Even when the animals are community pets, the cat likes food and safety, and the dog is the only one to form true attachments, as it often is when a dog chooses the companionship of a man's father even though he is not the one that feeds them.
Can confirm. I've had my cat locked in a closet with its litterbox since I got my pitbull. It meowed for the first two days but now it accepts its cage. But the pitbull gets what the pitbull asks for or I spend time working out a deal.
Cats are only fine alone for days if you don't value a clean home btw. You'd be surprised how quickly they start shitting and pissing outside of their cuck box. Meanwhile my dog won't even shit in my yard some days, he demands to be taken to a better shitting spot and will not shit unless I let him lead me to it and will hold it in if denied his preferred toilet before finally letting loose in my shoes.
My cat never goes outside her box, yours is doing it because you’re abusing her. Please rehome her that’s really cruel. She needs a window at least to look out of, or see daylight.
Look at the schizo manifesto the redditor typed in response to this, you hit him where he lives lmao
>be wrong
>get comprehensively btfo by your intellectual superior
>HELP MANIFESTO ESSAY I CANT READ
Dogs see you as friends and family and cats claim you as a food dispenser.
I have owned 7 cats. They don’t choose anything except the pace i am applying their conditioning regimen to rehab them into indoor only pets or stop them from fighting. You can strive to master a dog, but you own a cat.
master is a term used for when the submissive has a choice
owner is used when they don’t (or lack the capability to)
one masters a dog
but one owns a cat
>Mistreat a Cat
>It runs away
>Mistreat a dog
>It normalises the violence like abused woman
Reason dogs were used for learned helplessness study kek
Nah. I mistreat my cat pretty frequently and it still sticks to my legs so often I trip over it.
Mistreating dogs is a great way to get bit.
Cats get absolutely no choice. They are indoor cuck pets. Chucking it outside doesn't make it free any more than letting your dog out the front door does. It just means it might get hit by a car before it comes crawling back because it doesn't know where else to get food.
More dogay's obvious kek. If a Cat gets loose outside it will survive on their own even in a forest. In fact wildcats are a big problem. But dogs must remain near humans so they can eat trash to survive. They are too mutated from wolves to hunt anything. And when they are left to breed freely they become ugly pariah dogs with silly curled tails.
>Dogs cant survive outside but when they do they're ugly
Most intelligent cat worshiping liberal.
Nope
As someone who has beaten misbehaving dogs and choked out cats the animals respond the same, like animals. The cat has more ways to hide but when you get to them they give up fast. Yes, they can scratch, but I'm stronger than claws. Dogs will struggle and fight you and cats will, but a dog is only a few kicks from learning who is in charge and it does not take many times with your hands tightening around its pathetic little neck for a cat to learn to stay off the counter. Especially when you have it by the throat and hold it in the sink with water running. ooooh the cat is fast and can jump! I am smarter and have a water gun and an air horn that make hiding places irrelevant.
Cats do not choose anything. ANIMALS in general do not choose anything. You permit them to choose because you want them to. The only extra choice a dog gets is being strong enough to do damage, but I am stronger than any dog as well. The ones that continue to resist are killed. They still exist, everywhere, I am from serbia even, but still, they die. My father killed disobedient animals of every species and everything I know I learned from him.
Humans get a choice but animals and women do not get any more choice than people permit them.
Cats get loose and then they die anywhere that has predators same as dogs
>dogs don’t survive on their own!
>but also they do and become pariah dogs!
Evil but true. You can allow either animal choice or deny it. It might be harder to break a cats spirit because they’re dumber but most people keep cats in conditions that would cause dogs to become insanely destructive and aggressive.
Clearly your english is worse than mine. If you take a cat into the forest and leave it be there is a chance it will last for some years. A dog will wander until it starves, they rely entirely on humans' waste to live as feral creatures.
Uh no. It’s about the empty niche or lack thereof. Feral dogs do am excellent job kf surviving without people in the american southwest, but feral cats can’t make it more than a half mile from the nearest human anywhere on the continent. Both survive fine in Australia and sensitive island ecosystems. Wild dogs also do very well in africa, but cats don’t because they’re outcompeted by the natural wild cats.
The other guys analysis was correct. You just worship cats so the only truth in “cats choose, dogs obey” is that it is the situation you will allow in your own home.
First, I do not "worship" Cats kek. America moment where there must be two teams. Second you are obviously wrong. Feral Cat had wiped out many native specie. They live in generations in the wild. Of course they is eaten sometimes which animal isn't? Silly thing to say. Coyote eats peoples' dog in their own gardens aswell kek. Well then let's see these wild dogs that live in the African bush? As for Australia, there isn't really a predator to dogs apart from Dingo and the weather barely changes from seasons. Even humans survive in those conditions easily kek.
Dingoes are dogs. In Australia, which is one of the few places that can support truly wild housecats. How about those fully wild dogs in india? Or the russian dogs that live in the woods away from people? Or reservation dogs in the US, that the indians turned loose on purpose and don’t rely on people to survive - unless you count wolf removal.
Yes you do worship cats. You need to have a team apparently and that team is “claim cats are perfect and dogs suck”. I am just telling you how it is. Domesticated animals in general aren’t great at surviving because they are derived directly from a better animal that will immediately outcompete them if it or an equivalent is present. Cats and dogs alike succeed and fail at surviving in various places.
>Dingoes are dogs.
Er, and tigers is cats? Kek this is too silly now. Goodnite. But one thing, of all possibilities why try and larp as serb? Too funny sis
Dingoes are literally dogs. Exact same species. They’re the dogs the abbos brought with them gone feral. Also I’m not the serb, but that sounds like the serb thats really into dogfighting and hating women. He’s been here longer than you rajesh.
not only are dingoes dogs, they make lovely pets. someone i know from work has three.
its like husky + malinois + pitbull.
feral cats haven’t wiped out shit except in island ecosystems where dogs do the same thing. anywhere else humans just pin the blame on townie cats because the real cause was habitat destruction.
>leave cat
>instantly eaten by coyote
>leave dog
>mauls a coyote and fricks a female wolf
k. inb4
>nnnno that doesn’t count, in my caliphate we aggressively kill and beat dogs so they are all uselessly submissive but we let the cats do what they want!
Yeah that’s just your shithole. If you vanished the dogs would turn into dingos in 5 years and 90% of the cats would turn into dog turds.
anon please explain how the cat, which is locked inside, can run away. it's not like it can chew through a doors and walls or operate latches like a dog. you can kick a cat for fun and it can't do anything except hide under the couch.
abused cats are known for hiding and abused dogs are known for biting and escaping
which animal gets a choice?
Cat can jump on or hide under furniture. And they are fast to shoot through opened door if you not careful. What will the dog do? In most cases it cowers down. At most it may run to another room. And kek what dog bites it's owner? Maybe monster inbred American dogs do so but in civil places human aggressiveness is taken out of the bloodline. Not so it matters, if you hit a cat it will bite you aswell so it is a nonargument.
>if you hit a cat it will bite
they just cower
eventually they freeze and you can pick them up
if you're cats don't follow you around and sit on you and talk to you and slow blink at you and other obvious signals that they love you then you're doing cats wrong that's all
Cats even do that to the wall
anon people smarter than you can shit out literal 10 page essays while they sip wine. and by people smarter than you i mean anyone who graduated college with a GPA greater than 3.
I'm terribly sorry, but you must go back
i trained my fish to NOT get sad when i leave the house, whaddaya think of that, tough guy?