Are they evil?

Are they evil?
yes I know you can't ascribe a human characteristic to an animal living off of it's nature, but if we were to judge our human concept of evil on animals, would they be more evil than others?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fun fact
    A flamingo at my zoo managed to hover out of its enclosure and into the Komodo dragon one. It was swiftly eaten in front of the guests

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They arent. Chimpanzees are however, i wish nothing more for their extinction

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chimpanzees, and higher-intelligence primates in general, seem like they are capable of evil by being cruel to each other in nature. It's not about killing for fun (like cats satisfying their natural instinct) or killing for resource control (just life in general) but simply about inflicting pain for the thrill of inflicting pain.

      Chimpanzees are known to inflict painful deaths specifically intended to be as painful as possible, ripping scrotums and biting off wieners and peeling open skin. A slow death by torturous mutilation as a way to vent their frustration and hatred.

      That said, many other animals are capable of hatred and retaliation (dogs who snap for "no reason" that were being abused unseen, for example). It's just that all other animals can't comprehend effective methods of torture, what torture even is, or why you would even bother with torture.

      (also let's not turn this into a thread about pitbulls, too obvious and it always details the convo lol)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        *derails

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are they evil?
    Don't be stupid. No non-human animal is evil.
    Non-human animals mainly kill to eat or to protect themselves or in battles for mates or territory.
    The only "evil" that a non-human animal could really do would be to torture another animal for its own entertainment (which domestic cats do all the time). But even then, a non-human animal doesn't have the brainpower or empathy to understand the concept of torture.
    Non-human animals can't be evil. They're just dumb animals.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only evil animals are dolphins, they literally play underwater volleyball with other dolphin babies for shits and giggles until it dies

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Monitors in general and komodos specifically are certainly smart animals (they recognize their own names, solve puzzles, and can demonstrate an understanding of a novel concept in fewer repetitions that some dogs), but they lack the level of sapience necessary for evil. as it requires:
    >a theory of mind
    >the recognition that another being is capable of suffering
    >the desire to inflict suffering on another being for no other purpose than its own sake.
    Reptiles in general just have a feeding response that in a lot of cases overrrides all other instincts; since they're ambush predators and in many circumstances a second's delay could be the difference between eating and starvation, you chomp first and think second.
    That also doesnt mean they're mindless eating machines, either. They can be quite friendly and even affectionate to people they're familiar with, climbing up their legs to bother them for scratches, etc.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Quite the contrary, even back in the 1930s the London zoo noted how tame and friendly they get with keepers and people in general.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/k31c5Qd.png

      Monitors in general and komodos specifically are certainly smart animals (they recognize their own names, solve puzzles, and can demonstrate an understanding of a novel concept in fewer repetitions that some dogs), but they lack the level of sapience necessary for evil. as it requires:
      >a theory of mind
      >the recognition that another being is capable of suffering
      >the desire to inflict suffering on another being for no other purpose than its own sake.
      Reptiles in general just have a feeding response that in a lot of cases overrrides all other instincts; since they're ambush predators and in many circumstances a second's delay could be the difference between eating and starvation, you chomp first and think second.
      That also doesnt mean they're mindless eating machines, either. They can be quite friendly and even affectionate to people they're familiar with, climbing up their legs to bother them for scratches, etc.

      i think just about any animal can become "friendly" if they associate humans as a food provider.

      some can be more tempermental than others tho

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's toleraamce of your presence in their space, though, and there's actively seeking interaction and attention even when its been made clear that there is no food being offered. Komodos are in the second category.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could argue that, but Komodos seek out keepers for reasons beyond food and seem much more inclined to become friendly than many other animals, including several other monitor lizards such as Nile monitors.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        interesting to me that humans somehow just introduced the instinct of "food provider" to other animals. lots of undomesticated, wild animals you could (not should) potentially walk up to and offer food and they'll accept it. i saw a video of some people letting a squirrel drink from a water bottle and then it runs off. blew my mind that this squirrel just up and trusted these hairless giants to provide it with some sustenance without question

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, because you either eat or you die. Komodo dragons just choose to eat.
    It's a rough world we live in, and humans aren't any better. They just like to pretend, find things that can be a target for their HOLY FURY. There are writings from ancient Greece where public declarations were made to cease any and all necrophilia at once, not because of the moral ramifications, but because of the health hazard. The chimp brain is still there, it's just been beaten into behaving, because fricking corpses gives you rot dick and that's inconvenient on a societal scale.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't ascribe a human characteristic to an animal living off of it's nature

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. They just lack the means to kill things quickly and painlessly.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They eat their young

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        And I've seen a webm of a chimpanzee using her child as a club against another chimpanzee.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          a classic

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            mom of the year

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It looks like a doll

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That was an African American woman

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            omg look it's the funniest joke ever made

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          No. Pic related is evil.

          I give them a million pities

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        mammals also do that

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        so do hippos, lions, chimps, except they dont eat them, they just kill them which is worse

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's free protein

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        like you've never accidentally swallowed a little bit or your own cum before

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could also say they put them through the school of life early so they can weed out the weak and use the nutrients they wasted on them to make a better batch

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      And I've seen a webm of a chimpanzee using her child as a club against another chimpanzee.

      a classic

      Relevant

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're surprisingly docile, even friendly. There are a lot of myths surrounding them

      They certainly have the means, they just usually don't because they're not concerned whether their prey is alive when they start eating it so long as it can't escape

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Big reptiles are mostly super tameable. They're just murder robots, and if you're neither prey nor predator, they quickly learn to ignore you.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Komodo dragons seem to be quite a bit more than that though, that'd be true of something like a tame burmese python but Komodos seem to like their keepers and seek out interaction like a good scratch

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reptiles, insects, everything that crawls on the ground and in the sea is Satanic
    Birds, large mammals, and humans are heavenly. Pretty sure it says this somewhere in one of the Bibles.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >[GENESIS 1:20] And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.”
      >[GENESIS 1:21] So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
      >[GENESIS 1:24] And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so.
      >[GENESIS 1:25] God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
      The creatures that move along the ground and the creatures of the sea are specifically mentioned as being created by Him and being good. All extant reptiles fit into one of those two categories.
      Insects are debatable, but I believe the vast majority are good. I just refuse to believe that creatures like guinea worms and facial mites aren't twisted mockeries of His creation corrupted by the devil and his angels, who despise us.

      I think the only creatures one can make a definite, rock-solid case for being Satanic were the dinosaurs, since the Bible goes out of its way to exclude them by saying "winged birds," and God sent a meteor to wipe all of them off the face of the Earth (except the winged ones), just as he created the Flood to cleanse the Earth of the wicked and the nephilhim.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>>/x/

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >refutes his own moronation with scripture
        >I JUST REFUSE TO BELIEVE I'M NOT moronic
        Go take some meds. Christ.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Evil is observed and relative to the observer, not innate. Wars have been fought over it and the only consistent line between good and evil was winner and loser.

        If a tiger ate your kids it is not blameless because it can’t read duhbibble. It’s evil, go kill it. Hate it. Fear it. Strike first next time. It’s healthy and how ape behavior aka morality is supposed to work.

        >>>/x/

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