Animal bros... animal rights is losing, not winning.
Even though we had a Kino that portrayed animal abuse pretty well (pic related), nothing changed. There was no cultural impact, it seems the people in the year of our lord 2023, simply do not have genes that lead to empathy for animals.
Animal abuse is bad.
However, animal abuse is MERELY THE LEAST OF THE PROBLEMS. The real problem is not animal abuse, it's full blown animal torture. There are people who buy pets, go on craig's list and adopt pets, or pick them from the street JUST TO TORTURE THEM. 2 years ago, a woman taped a puppy's mouth shut, and drilled its butthole in a video meant for people who have sexual fetish with animals being tortured. This industry is going nonstop for LITERAL CENTURIES, with nobody doing anything to prevent animal torture from happening.
Not even /ourracoon/ was able to even put a dent in changing the culture.
Animalbros... we are losing. When will we have a kino with cultural impact enough, or have some ultranormie e-celeb like pewdpie to make a video and expose to the whole world the whole crush porn industry and how bad animals are being tortured, so society starts implementing procedures to prevent that shit from happening?
We must gather all animals and go to war against the normalgays, it might be the only way.
Frick humans
animal abuse should not be illegal. locking someone up over damaging their own property is stupid
it has thoughts and feelings doe
it is a prop and to lock away a contributing member of society because of how they treat their props is self destructive
name five animal abusers who contribute to society, sports and dogfighting don't count as societal contribution
>contributions don't count as contributions
They all hold jobs that pay for their hobby. regardless you are dodging the point. HUMANS > ANIMALS. animal rights are self destructive
average sports enjoyer
i wish. too many people buy into this idea that animals are people. thankfully i exist to bring them back to reality, but 1 person at a time is too slow
A human, being smart and more aware of itself is more responsible for its own suffering than an animal is.
Thus i feel more sympathy for animals.
Because they experience suffering but are usually blind to its cause or powerless to stop it, theyre helpless subjects of suffering.
People are smart, they have more control of their present and future, a man can handle himself.
We need an animal registry
This thread confirms it
Nature is based. Animals are cringe.
no u
LAWMAKERS
DO NOTHING
POLICE
DO NOTHING
IT WOULD HE A SHAME IF
WE DID SOMETHING
IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF
THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT JUST EXPOSED
BUT DESTROYED
SOMONE SHOULD REALLY
MAKE AN EXAMPLE
DO TO THEM
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE INNOCENTS
>kill kill kill i right i kill
Having empathy for others is typically generalized to having empathy for animals. However, empathy for humans and for animals are only weakly correlated. Thus, some individuals may have low human-centered empathy but have high animal-centered empathy.
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Lastly, we found that Narcissistic Neuroticism was unrelated to human-centered empathy and positively related to animal-centered empathy and attitudes towards animals.
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On the other hand, researchers have demonstrated low human-centered empathy relates to enhanced concern for animal welfare. For example, some militant animal activists exhibit a great sense of animal-centered empathy and concern for animal welfare while directing violence towards humans in the name of their cause
Narcissistic furgay l
Problem is most normies are violent and don't give a frick about animals either
I'd say 90% of the population is completely unphased about learning of animal abuse. They only get angry at it if you really put it in their faces, has to be very vivid imagery of torture (like the puppy getting its anus drilled) for them to sprint to any action
Otherwise they feel bad but immediately try to forget about it without taking any action
Only mass publicity of animal abuse can change this
>IF YOU ARE NOT A PETA NUTJOB YOU WILL BE MURDERED YOU MUST BE MURDERED I WILL KILL YOU
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2023.1087049/full
Having empathy for others is typically generalized to having empathy for animals. However, empathy for humans and for animals are only weakly correlated. Thus, some individuals may have low human-centered empathy but have high animal-centered empathy.
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Lastly, we found that Narcissistic Neuroticism was unrelated to human-centered empathy and positively related to animal-centered empathy and attitudes towards animals.
> Lastly, we found that Narcissistic Neuroticism was unrelated to human-centered empathy and positively related to animal-centered empathy and attitudes towards animals.
Having empathy for animals does not excluse empathy for humans
Any normalgay who sees you tortured a puppy will want to murder you. The only people that won't feel that way, are... you guessed it! Psychopaths.
It is normal for people who feel empathy (for humans), to want to kill humans that torture animals. Because if you feel empathy you feel towards everything.. that is what the word means anon, you are capable of putting yourself into other being's shoes.
Having empathy for others is typically generalized to having empathy for animals. However, empathy for humans and for animals are only weakly correlated. Thus, some individuals may have low human-centered empathy but have high animal-centered empathy.
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Lastly, we found that Narcissistic Neuroticism was unrelated to human-centered empathy and positively related to animal-centered empathy and attitudes towards animals.
>Find a source that says: mammals do not have a negative experience from pain, and then come back to this thread. Until then stop being a derailing schizo
You can't take a hint... you are arguing with yourself derailing the thread, you can't even see the point of what we are trying to discuss... because.... YOU ARE A PSYCHO WHO CAN'T FEEL EMPATHY. It´s like you are blind trying to argue with people talking about something they see
Find a source of what I said or frick off. The topic we are discussing is: animals feel a negative experience from pain, we have to stop them suffering.
If you can find a source that states mammals do not have negative experience from pain, go ahead m8
Although human- and animal-centered empathy tap the same psychological mechanisms, they are independent and influenced by separate factors (Paul, 2000). For example, Gómez-Leal et al. (2021) revealed that individuals who owned a pet display higher animal-centered empathy, but lower human-centered empathy, compared to those who have not owned a pet. Likewise, human- and animal-centered empathy were related among individuals who had adopted a pet but not among those who had relinquished a pet (Cardoso et al., 2022). Thus, human-centered empathy may be related to, but distinct from, animal centered-empathy.
didn't read
i'm happy for you tho
or sorry that happened
everythread there is the regular schizo
>enslaving animals
Ok
>enslaving humans
Also ok
Still waiting for source
All of the aforementioned is illegal in most white countries, and those who commit such acts are prosecuted when discovered. More legislation is not going to solve anything.
>We must gather all animals and go to war against the normalgays, it might be the only way
As if the average normie was anything but horrified about the prospect of someone fricking puppies in the eyesocket and throwing them into a blender afterwards. Smells like ALF moronation to me.
>those who commit such acts are prosecuted when discovered
They are never discovered though because it is legal to own animals and dispose of animals in complete secrecy. That means only people who willingly publish online evidence of them torturing animals will get caught.
tl;dr you are actually stupid
So you want to set up state surveilance on every pet owner to make sure they don't possibly abuse their pets in secrecy? With that attitude you might as well give up on your privacy completely so the authorities can be sure you aren't sharing CP, committing tax fraud or assembling destructive devices in your basement. good luck convincing anyone that isn't a mouthbreather communist downie on that.
We already do that for people.
Your argument makes zero sense. I'm saying replicate what we do to protect children to protect animals. We are not doing anything differently from what we are already doing.
Animals aren’t people and don’t have value outside of your pseudo-spiritual schizophrenic opinion complex. Leave peoples rights alone. Damage done to objects, property - isn’t a major issue if it’s not putting people at risk.
Save your money for the billions of PEOPLE suffering starvation, genital mutilation, tyranny, oppression, religiously sanctioned rape, etc. if you want to help the world help destroy islam and stop this animal rights bullshit. animals don’t havr minds to enjoy rights with. they don’t care about dying, they don’t care about anything, they have an automatic unconscious response to pain that removes them from the dangerous system and directs their nearby relatives to avoid the area.
No, no creature shall feel pain
Deal with it
They don’t feel anything. Only people do. No language no self awareness.
that is not how reality works
Go study the brain
No language, no self awareness. Just because the brain processes something doesn’t mean there is a being that feels anything. Look up blindsight. That is the state animals exist in because they have no abstract language to have an “I” with.
Their entire life is dark. Automatic. No comprehension.
If the brain processes pain, you feel pain.
Humans and mammals process pain. A human without language/intelligence (a baby) also processes pain
Can't make simpler than this for you, doesn't matter though, you will make excuses until you die to justify your behavior, which is why only death fixes you
Wrong.
Only humans and nature (the world humans need) matter. If you would harm a man to save an object (ie: cattle) you are evil. It’s that simple
If you do not prioritize humans my descendants won’t be seeing many people like you in a century.
>you either are okay with animal torture or you would let a human die to save a prairie dog
false dichotomies like this are indicative of a low IQ
It´s indicative of people being dishonest trying to justify being evil. They know when they say things like that, its beacuse they are deeply selfish, but they just keep trying to justify being selfish with excuses
You don't need language/self awareness to feel physical pain. Are you dense?
Please identify yourself with your next posts so we know you are an anon talking at a 8yo level. You don't even care about facts
You literally CAN NOT FEEL period because there is no you to feel. No language no self awareness.
The only consistently self aware animals on earth are either close cousins of prehumans with brain structures that would give rise to ours or very close by coincidence (dolphins). These may suffer if they are people, if they understand an abstract concept and can say “i” or “me”. If it’s just some cat trained to press buttons to receive a social reward it’s a flesh machine with no chance at personhood.
Source: I made up
Like your entire moral system where all pain is bad no matter what the nociception happens to? Even though it has no material relevance to me or you and no spiritual relevance since you refuse religion as a moral base? Like that? Made up like that?
No form of language no self concept no experience.
And where is your source that you need language and self awareness to process the negative experience of pain?
Go on post your source, we'll wait
Is there a you to experience anything without the word “me”? Even apes and cetaceans have the ability to refer to themselves with a communication system. Nothing that lacks this has an experience. Only a reaction to sensory input without any comprehension. What you consider pain is just an activated sensor.
Moreover nonhumans have limited value and are not materially relevant so the only basis for your morals is spiritual or you are frankly schizophrenic.
source: me
Nah frick off c**t with your personal rationalizations
Like yours that pain is bad no matter what it happens to because “empathy” which is a word you don’t understand the actual meaning of? You have repeatedly said that someone who doesn’t give a frick about a chicken cant have empathy but this is provably false. Most people have empathy that is triggered by humans, but not chickens.
You derive your beliefs from an incorrect assumption instead of observed reality. Animals aren’t people. And their non-experience of the world isn’t relevant.
source: me
You can look this up. Empathy means people, largely related to a facial configuration similar to a juvenile humanoid. We can easily find people that feel equal empathy for a puppy and a baby and less for an adult man (dogs and cats evolved to be brood parasites) but not people who feel this for ANY animal. If jt doesn’t have facial characteristics like a young or female human people feel little to no empathy for it. It’s fairly well understood. Empathy is tied to a facial recognition algorithm.
This is why most people stop giving a frick past dogs, cats, and apes. No human like face.
Dude stop your mental gynastics.
The issue is, can animals, mammals specially, sense pain, and is it a negative experience to them?
There are two answers for this: very likely, there is enough evidence (brain structure and behavioral) from animals to suggest it.
If you say "well.. it suggest it.. but maybe they don't feel so its ok to torture them for aeons" then you have no place in civilized society, if you have not realized yet, you are a complete monster and dangerous
Find a source that says: mammals do not have a negative experience from pain, and then come back to this thread. Until then stop being a derailing schizo
>neurotic narcissist
No language no self concept no experience. Look up blindsight (not the book). That is how an animal lives. They are blind but they see. They are in a void, thoughtless.
Note: I consider cetaceans and great apes an inferior form of people.
>Find a source that says: mammals do not have a negative experience from pain, and then come back to this thread. Until then stop being a derailing schizo
Having empathy for others is typically generalized to having empathy for animals. However, empathy for humans and for animals are only weakly correlated. Thus, some individuals may have low human-centered empathy but have high animal-centered empathy.
…
Lastly, we found that Narcissistic Neuroticism was unrelated to human-centered empathy and positively related to animal-centered empathy and attitudes towards animals.
…
On the other hand, researchers have demonstrated low human-centered empathy relates to enhanced concern for animal welfare. For example, some militant animal activists exhibit a great sense of animal-centered empathy and concern for animal welfare while directing violence towards humans in the name of their cause
I for one can say I'm not reading your posts nor have been reading them for a while. As it´s getting clearer who you are amongst all posts, I'm reading them even less
From now on produce a source of why mammals don't feel pain or frick off
You got BTFO
EXPLAIN: how can something feel anything if it isn’t aware it even exists. Imagine a mind that is empty. Its eyes see, it avoids objects and pursues others, but it isn’t aware of this. Its feet touch the ground and lift off it but it doesn’t feel any of it. It can not say, think, or imagine where its limbs are our what it look like. It’s nothing. That is a lack of self awareness. What is there to feel? Its brain detects without a self to care about it.
You are now breathing manually.
I value a mind that cannot conceptualize malice to one that does conceptualize malice and acts on it towards other living beings. An across-the-board sense of empathy for humans is dangerous, humans are dangerous, humans kill more humans than any other animal. You conveniently never mention the statistics that suggest animal abuse is linked to actual murderous tendencies. tl;dr please marry a woman who has no empathy towards animals and see how well that works out for you.
>not sapient, can never obey a social contract
>can't even mentally process suffering in a way that matters
>will never and could never extend any rights or consideration to humans
Why should I care? They may as well be robots.
It's not even necessarily just speciest bias, either.
>theoretical human that can't obey social contracts
Even Sentinal Island freaks have a society and presumably rules.
>mentally destroyed human that can't experience suffering
We give morons less rights because they are less than everyone else, like children. We also kill braindead people because without human consciousness there's no point.
>human that can't respect other human's rights
Anyone that fits this is uberpsycho and too dangerous to live.
There's just no reason for me to care about anything that doesn't have a fully realized human consciousness.
Since most people know what slaughterhouses are and still eat meat, most people clearly have some bias towards things that can actually think. You draw a line at dolphins and elephants, but anything below human is obviously just arbitrary.
You guys should try arguing more practical points, like the environmental and atmospheric impacts of mass factory farming. I personally avoid eating beef and fish, because I don't like how destructive those industries are.
It's not because I care about the suffering of fish, it's just because I like looking at them. I think the Amazon is cool, so I try to avoid supporting its destruction for cattle. I'm worried about the climate, so I try more alternative foods.
You can achieve less animal suffering without arguing about all this woo woo do bugs feel pain shit no one cares about.
Cool moth unrelated.
Prove cows can't think
>can't even mentally process suffering in a way that matters
Source?
Humans and animals feel pain from analogous brain parts. Our frontal cortex is not processing pain in humans, the animal brain partes are, just as other animals process it
Wauf is a pro-animal abuse board
anibusephobes please leave
Why dont people understand that you can have empathy for animals and still value prople above them?
I suspect the kind of people who say this stuff dont actually know what empathy is and are just prattling off a script theyve convinced themselves of to satisfy yheir ego.
Most humans actually have no empathy
If they had, animals wouldn't be in their current situation
more like most humans historically have been poorly educated frickwits who don't understand the natural world around them at all. it wasn't always common knowledge that animals feel pain, and plenty of people even still assume all fish don't either.
4000 years ago there were historical names in Ancient Greece that promoted animal welfare.
It´s about genes.
Most people nowadays can't have empathy, education won't change it, same as you can't make a pitbull nice. We need empathic people reproducing more than selfish people, but there is zero driving force behind more empathetic people reproducing.. sort of.
We put criminals in jail, and that was helping it. Except, now criminals are thriving thanks to welfare state and liberals.. so again, lack of empathy is on the winning side again.
Empathy doesn’t cover animals
They aren’t people
They are cogs in a machine (nature)
Only humans have feelings to empathize with and if you disagree you are evolutionarily inferior. My people (jews) rule over and supply food to yours (degenerated germanics) because of this. Without our business most of Europe would be africa tier and you would have to eat meat to avoid starvation.
You are evil, unironically
You are a little clump of atoms that produce a behavior of a creature that can hurt others but can't feel that pain it inflicts on others. People like you are a terrible danger to this universe
Animals aren’t others. If you ever harm a single person over these literal objects that only exist to maintain nature, I will put you in hell AKA jail prematurely until you are ready to leave. You should be required to personally slaughter a dangerous dog that has killed someone before you go free. With a knife, no pleasantries.
People matter
Nature matters
Animals only matter insofar those are affected
Then it´s your philosophy against ours, and it seems the only way to resolve this is to start killing people like you. If you want to continue the system where animals can be tortured every day, we must kill you if you are in the way of that
>people like you
The mentally and physically superior majority? People like you lock yourselves in temples and leech off OUR society for a reason. I exist because i care about people. You don’t. Enjoy your religious nutjob retreat.
Yes people like you have to die
Anyone who initiates physical violence must die. The cowards need to be removed from this universe
>poltard types a bunch of heinous shit and pretends he's israeli
shut up dumbass get a hairline
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fauci+beagles
Of course a guy that is hand picked to advocate for the jab is a psycho with no morals. Who else could fit the shoe of government propaganda?
Reminder to report unhinged homosexuals who advocate animal cruelty
Don't be an idiot. What fricking god will report do?
>Oh nice, we removed from the internet people who advocate for animal abuse, now we can feel happy about ourselves that we don't have to be reminded they exist, so they can continue abusing animals in secret away from our eyes!
On the contrary, they need to be promoted on the frontpage of le reddit, not fricking banned and having their posts deleted from Wauf. People must be aware they exist, that is the whole fricking point
This fricking mentality of "I don't want to see what I don't like" is why animal abuse still exists, everyone just wipes it under the rug and forget about it.
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most obvious samegay
lol the christcucktard is losing his mind again
meds. now.
It's pretty funny watch him seethe
Humanity test:
Save: Two puppies or one adult african man?
Any answer but the adult african man means you should be institutionalized.
why can't I save both?
That user is clearly against animals
He is an animal racist
does he have to be african?
You're probably not going to make an appeal to the /misc/gays that infest every board on this site. Half their posts are about their bloodthirsty rage and desire to kill to satisfy their ideological pleasures, so torturing animals is basically their outlet since they can't actually kill other people without getting in trouble.
Rent free
Seething poltourists
anon nobody mentioned pol
>so torturing animals is basically their outlet since they can't actually kill other people without getting in trouble.
Which is why it is so important to protect animals, so they get frustrated and their only outlet becomes autistic screenching on the internet
The problem is that there are too many unbearable morons on this planet. I've tried living in peace for the last 7+ years but there is always at least one noisy moron around to torture me.
When will you let me start human testing instead of animal testing?
it's more your lack of a college degree that's holding you back there, m8
pretend to be a troony surgeon and you can probably get away with it.
have a nice day homosexuals
no u
every christcuck must be slaughtered
Statistically speaking non-christians are more likely to kill each other or themselves than anyone else.
The only people less murderous are buddhist monks who are total evolutionary dead ends and represent discarded excess males from societies that are warlike and carnivorous.
If they are just atheists or "spiritual", they are more likely to kill themselves than anyone else.
humans are predators. predators kill animals.
the only one animal on this planet who we can truly call our friend, the only one we don't treat like raw materials, is just another social pack hunter with front facing eyes and an expressive face that tears ungulates apart for sustenance. like us! the only animals we really give a shit about are "like us!" in some way. chimps, orca, dolphins, tigers, etc. this is the normal state of humanity. not having feelings for what you're going to be turning into shit and blood cells soon.
as a human, you need meat to survive. if i waved a wand and fossil fuels vanished from this planet, you would have to choose between eating meat every single day, and starving, because you would never get enough of your manufactured supplements. even when a globalized economy became possible it wasn't yet possible to be a fully healthy vegan because no one was growing, making, and shipping specific plant foods and supplements and no one knew they were needed anyways. it was common knowledge that meat and fruits kept you healthy and losing either would result in bodily failure.
you now realize you are the weird one and akin to a cat that has been raised and purposefully conditioned to be friends with a rat. mentally ill.
>tries to rationalize and justify animal abuse
lmao
lol even
What a load of pseud bullshit. Imagine justifying animal abuse because you're too much of a mongoloid to get the concept of empathy.
What can I do to prevent this?
All laws and agencies that exist to (more importantly )prevent , but also to catch child abusers after the fact, must be 100% replicated to animals
It's the only way
Animals and children must be treated the same, regarding how we protect their well being
Animals are not children. They are objects.
Next.
Animals have no moral value under any rational system except the measure by which they may help or harm humans. Humans can, unlike animals:
Produce more humans
Do basically everything but pull loads and sniff things
We are superior.
The only logical reason to care about an animal's well being is if it affects the immediate or potential cost of its existence. For example, livestock must be kept happy so it is more time efficient to manage them, and so their chances of injuring workers are lower. Pets must not be hurt because they may hurt people in the future in retaliation.
But if an animal provides no value and is doomed to simply die it is irrelevant.
Animals do not have rights. HUMANS have a right not to be bothered as a result of what happens to an animal. Nothing more. Only humans matter.
The most value a single animal can have is as an essential part of nature. It is not the animals life that matters then, but the purpose it serves in maintaining the environment we depend on, even if it must suffer and die to do so.
I am a nature lover. Not a zoophile. This is nature. Nature is cold and logical. Evolution is about efficiency and entropy, not your feelings. If your feelings are out of line your chances of reproducing are lower. My descendants wont be seeing you in 200 years!
all that pointless text to say "it's ok to torture animals". You are not capable of empathy, give up, you have more in common with sociopaths and serial killers than with humans who feel empathy
We are not the same, you want to apply logic to an issue that is sensory. That is like trying to argue with someone that some food is supposed to taste good because it's logical to taste good. Pro tip it's not going to work
That animals feel pain, and we all want to avoid pain, is a fact. Your mental gynastics don't change this truth, and if you don't care about this truth, it just means you are selfish and incapable of feeling empathy
you little aspie lmao
>You are not capable of empathy
I am
But I only feel it for human beings because I am not mentally ill
If you feel it for anything else you are objectively a threat to my entire species. You could potentially end one single human life to spare some nonhuman animate objects. In which case it is my duty to humans, who actually have feelings to empathize with, to end your life if that is imminent. And regret that you could not be made to see the truth sooner. You never deserve to die, you only force other people to protect humanity.
Were you an animal I would slaughter you and feed your corpse to the homeless before you had the chance.
Man over all. If you feel empathy for anything but human beings you are more dangerous than a psychopath. A psychopath only kills for his own entertainment, but a species traitor kills for the good of an endless horde of thoughtless automatons that exist only to self replicate. There can be no end to their murder until all humanity or all life period is gone.
MAN. OVER. ALL.
MAN. OVER. ALL.
MAN. OVER. ALL.
This man is angry but he tells the truth
A species only cares about itself and any members that don’t die out quick. Animal rights is basically protecting humans from shitty meat, dangerous animals, and zoonoses. Trying to give cats the rights of human children is absurd and the logical conclusion is pure evil. Vegans are necessarily anti human AKA evil. New age religious nutjobs at best, although you could call that evil (satanic).
Ask whether you would like to be beheaded to spare a thousand cattle.
the vegan answer is to starve everyone else to spare cattle and then wonder why your malnourished society looks like india.
There is no "man" "animal" whatever. You are making a claim that something exists in a natural state such as man (I'm a man, and I'm 100% different from you, as you put it), when that is not true.
What you are actually saying, is that "I should only feel empathy for situations that I benefit from it" - that is not empathy, that is sociopathy. Sociopaths are "nice" when they want to get something out of people, exactly as you are doing
You don't feel empathy actually, not even for people. You are what is known as a "self absorbed organism", in other words, a psychopath, someone who is unable to relate to the pains and sufferings of others
>these mental gymnastics
Sociopathy doesn’t apply to animals. When “feeling empathy when convenient” is how you describe EMPATHY FOR YOUR ENTIRE FRICKING SPECIES you have a screw loose
Let me make this very clear
Animals are not people
Sociopathy and psychopathy do not cover animal empathy
You are not normal
Normal people kill and eat animals to feed humans
Because animals are not people
And humans are
Animals are not people
Humans are
If your brain can not make this very basic distinction you are broken. Go to a doctor.
Answer:
Would you die for a cow
Would you kill one person for six million puppies
You are not like us, you can't feel empathy, don't act online as if you could participate in our society and make decisions for it when you are completely different from us
Our brains are not the same
Another oversocialized westoid thinks they’re sane?
Chang will eat your pets. Alive. Based evolutionarily superior chinaman!
keep us posted
>Would you kill one person for six million puppies
I'd kill one person for six million people, cats, cows, whatever. It's better than six million things live and one thing dies rather than six million things die and one lives. Saying the opposite is purely illogical.
Kek I'm sure there's a Nazi joke somewhere in there
animals dont have pain and suffering. they have nociception and alarm responses.
but if they did the suffering of one man who lost his keys is greater than a dog in a torture device
Source? Other than that you made it up
This is the homie who lets his kid wave fake swords at animals at the zoo
>You're a psychopath if you feel empathy
>Needs to chant like a subhuman to reinforce his stupid edgy take
You eat exclusively goyslop, I bet. It would be the most fitting diet for this worldview. Shit in shit out
People like that anon use that justification for slaughterhouses. If empathy gives us happier animals that taste better, there is no reason not to do so other than greed and laziness. Not to say they should have the same rights as a human kid but they have more rights than your kitchen table. They are not objects.
what's more fake and gay than a namegay? (you)
humanity is a part of nature. we should live with it, not seek to dominate and subjugate for entertainment.
Humans subjugating and eating nature is nature.
>I'm a nature lover
>Only humans matter
You're a fricking moron and your philosophy is moronic. No further explanation needed
>animals are children
moron take. Animals are far far too diverse and all encompasing a group to be lumped in with the juviniles of one species. A wienerroach is just as much of an animal as a say a fox. You need to be a lot more specific if you are calling for more beuracratic bullshit that will stop some abusers but just make life harder for everyone else.
Swiftly killing an animal is not abuse, and the anon was clearly referring to animals you have custody of eg pets
these subhuman vermin are always bringing up the same middle school le nothing matters edgy talking points to defend the fact that they have less value than the crust of dried shit of shit under the lid of a public toilet
at this point i am 100% convinced that they are grown in labs
>middle school le nothing matters edgy talking points
The funny thing about people who say these, is that at the same time they enjoy a perfectly fine civilization that has done everything to ensure they never feel pain. We have laws to protect humans, we have agencies that look for human trafficking to prevent it in the first place, we have anesthetics and medicine to stop our pain when we feel it..
These people thrive in all of these things made by civilization to then come and say "actually none of it matters", as if they are living in actual difficult or painful times ever in their lives
Le nothing matters? Ok then, then grab a knife, start cutting your fingers of and post the video here. At least live by your statements, if nothing matters why does it matter if you cut some of your limbs of?
It's very dissimulative lying behavior
>animal rights
cringe
>animal welfare
based
>Animal rights legislation is cringe
ohhh so you think dogs can just shit in any lawn they want without repercussions?
Animals have rights too anon, they can't just shit anywhere, but they have the right to shit at some places
It'll likely never happen. Not only are most people biologically predisposed to not being empathetic to other species (nothing would be preying on or eating much if they did) but also you have the social element like religion and animals having no souls and such.
It's too ingrained at this point. So all ya can hope for is to try to end it or use good judgment if selling.
Nah I guarantee to you if normalgays saw the woman drilling a puppy, they would be absolutely chocked by it and demand change.
The problem is just disinformation, how many normalgays are even aware people are torturing animals in privacy? 0,00001% of them have received that information at this point?
There is not one zoomer browsing tiktok right now that is aware of it
They can't keep getting away with it
Only the people who are stupid enough to post what they do online ever get caught. The people who do it in complete privacy will never be caught under current legislations, there is no way to know they abuse animals as it is
This, I know many people who abuse animals and most them are smart enough to not get caught.
If you know people why don't you report them by the way?
Not that it solves the overall problem of the people who do in complete secrecy, those are the ones we need to start catching (and the only way to do that, is to copy/paste all laws and procedures and agencies we have to prevent child abuse, and apply them to animals as well )
I'm not a bigot who goes around ruining other peoples lives over innocuous hobbies.
>innocuous hobbies
>animal abuse
This is bait. Even scumbags who do it for fun are aware it's a lot more than a harmless hobby which is why they hide it. And I doubt anyone anywhere lives in an area so shit that "many" in that area are doing this. Tipped your hand too much on that bait. 2/10. Wauf is a slow board, you need to take your time and finesse it, jot shoot your shot in 2 posts.
You are suppressing your violent urges, just try killing one animal.
See how it makes you feel.
Good doggos suppress their violent urges
There is no place in civilized society for people who can't contain their violence. We used gallows on them in the past, it's time to bring them back. We have not been putting the wild population of people down enough
There it is, I drew it out of you.
You're so close now, all it takes is one slip!
You don't understand, we are not advocating for lack of violence - if people are unable to commit violence, they will have violence committed to them. Violence in self defense is a must
We are advocating killing people who use force outside of self defense (you). You are not like us and you don't belong in civilization, your genes must go
You are not "drawing" anything out like you are an anime character mastermind. top lmao
>We are advocating killing people who use force outside of self defense (you). You are not like us and you don't belong in civilization, your genes must go
kek, you sound like psycho
grow some self-awareness
People who are torturers must be wiped from this universe.
There is only one evil force in the universe: causing physical pain
People who are agents of causing, must be removed. 100, 200 years from now, when we can genetically modify you, then we can fix you. Until then, either you have to die or be locked up, so you never harm other creatures, animals or humans
Dumbass, every single action you do causes pain to something directly or indirectly.
Stop being so edgy.
>every single action you do causes pain to something directly or indirectly.
Cope from someone who can't help but hurt others.
Verifiable false statement you just gave. I cause zero physical pain to other creatures, animals or humans, throughout my entire life. Even the food I eat is free range
cope harder iqlet, you got no arguments to justify how rotten you are inside compared to the rest of us who are actually human
You are part of a painful universe anon, no matter what you do, you can't escape it.
It's just the way it is.
More excuses from people who are violent. We don't "live in a painful universe". We live in an universe that has people like you, who cause pain
Remove you and the universe is now fine. We just continue doing a good job of extincting violent genes. Has been working great so far, welfare state has fricked that process up though, we must end welfare as it is too
What? No offense but is this bait?
Pain existed long before us anon.
And us higher humans are the god like creatures that came to be, and can now extinct all pain from the universe.
Don't worry bro we got this, universe will be 100% blissful thanks to us. We'll have to kill you or lock you up however for the moment. But don't worry science will be able to fix your faulty violent brain one day, and give you a soul and inner dialogue, and empathy. All the good stuff that makes higher beigns
I still support animal abuse.
I know, you are the enemy and discussion doesn't change anything, your genes force you to be violent
Which is why we are aware the only way is to subdue you and you're people
Closeted animal abusers are always the ones most vehemently against it.
You are trying to say that "closeted patriachys are always the ones most feminist about it", or "child rapists are always the ones most vehemently against it"
That is because society accuses people of those often, so those people who actually go against it feel the need to defend themselves the most
That is not the case for animal abuse, because nobody really accuses anyone of being an animal abuser - nobody cares after all. So in the year of our lord, 2023, anyone vehement against animal abuse is just a nice person
Either way - your accusation is not an argument. Even if I am an animal abuser, we must change laws to prevent all animal abuse. Deal with it sweaty, you can't win against a paragon of justice (me)
Yeah yeah, everyone's heard it all before.
We all know what you are.
OP has been spamming this
https://desuarchive.org/an/search/image/CwpBjufUZ4PTzDXZE_8rBQ/
Since they arrived on Wauf for the 2020 election drama in late 2020/early 2021.
And they get their answer every time
This is a relatively rare crime that does not justify a massive bureaucracy and society itself is regulating it so that the only animals these people can kill are feral vermin that would die just as horribly anyways, probably by the hands of law enforcement, because excessive unowned domestic animals are serious disease vectors. Ergo as nasty as they are these people can end up doing us a favor.
Free roaming cats are the one and only animal responsible for toxoplasmosis in humans. This gets in the food supply because cats stir their shit in with common dirt, and causes 750 deaths each year split evenly between both kinds of real food (meat and plants). They are also the only remaining domestic rabies reservoir in the US.
Free roaming dogs can potentially become both a rabies reservoir and a vector and serve as a reservoir for brucellosis, leishmaniasis (in the south), and heartworm. When they're found they're typically exterminated in the same manner as hogs: Firing teams. Clean kills are not a priority, the animals die bleeding out.
Pseudo-religious schizo babble. Not being a devout christian WILL be a diagnosable mental disorder in the future, as well excessive empathy for animals, graded based on how humanlike the animal is.
I would, but you aren't here to kill.
>wants to kill people
Every time with you literal psychopaths
you damn my violent tendencies, yet you rationalize your bloodlust as justified to be inflicted on "lesser beings". You think I'm a psychopath? you think I'm a monster? why don't you try looking in a mirror sometime.
reminder that you can't use arguments with people who don't care about the suffering of others
Try talking to a Black person who just murdered someone as he laughs in your face. You are not going to fix a violent Black person with arguments, and you won't fix someone who doesn't care about animals with arguments either.
Your only resource will be force. We need to change the laws, not have some sort of "awareness campaign" that will change absolutely nothing
/misc/ has rotted your brain.
Black folk and black people are different things anon
>I’m not a psychopath i just think i was put here to murder people
Having empathy for others is typically generalized to having empathy for animals. However, empathy for humans and for animals are only weakly correlated. Thus, some individuals may have low human-centered empathy but have high animal-centered empathy.
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Lastly, we found that Narcissistic Neuroticism was unrelated to human-centered empathy and positively related to animal-centered empathy and attitudes towards animals.
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On the other hand, researchers have demonstrated low human-centered empathy relates to enhanced concern for animal welfare. For example, some militant animal activists exhibit a great sense of animal-centered empathy and concern for animal welfare while directing violence towards humans in the name of their cause
Tldr narcissistic sociopath
Nice bait.
>innocuous
Yeah nah
She looks like she'd be into vore.