A possible animal was suffering outside my work door and I was too pussy to put it out of its misery. Am I weak or too caring?
It was a pigeon, which are shit sky rats, but still.
Does it say that I'm not a man or that I have a tender heart?
Thinking about doing it made me want to rather die myself than do it, as I held my knife.
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do you have a penis? then you're a man and no one can really do much about it. It's more caring to put an animal out of its misery but I can't fault you for not wanting to do that, we don't like being uncomfortable, and culling -- even if it's very necessary -- is uncomfortable for people not used to doing it. Only you can really judge your behavior here, and change it if you dislike how the situation turned out.
I had to mercy kill a bird once. Wasn't a pigeon. Mom's cat had got it. Fricked it up too badly to even hope of surviving.
Shovel to the dome, hard and fast as I could. Best I could do. Still feel bad about it.
Imagine spending this much time arguing with yourself about shit that doesn't matter.
Please have a nice day already.
I'm the exact same honestly. Once when I was house sitting for my sister, one of her little dogs attacked and brought inside a blue tongue. Couldn't bring myself do anything and just left there quietly until it seemed like it stopped breathing.
>a possible animal
What were the other possibilities?
As a cat owner I have had to finish off more than one mortally wounded animal. I have also come upon dying animals in the wild, as you did, and let nature take its course. I can't tell you what the right thing to do is, because only you can know thet, but it never feels good and if it ever does, you have a problem. Be well, anon.
quads: deserved
Well, you're steeped in death. Would you be alright with it if your cat got heemed and eaten by someone elses pet?
Absolutely.
Circle of life and all that.
Well okay then
*opens kennel door*
>Would you be alright with it if your cat got heemed and eaten by someone elses pet?
That's an entirely different situation you moron.
it wouldn't be
death is death. if you are okay with your pet killing other roaming animals, you should be okay with someone elses pet killing roaming animals. an animal can not expect to understand the anglo idea that animals are property - and any rational person who subscribes to that idea should keep their property confined to their land such that it will never be an issue. it would be like blaming someone else if you failed to set the brake on your car and it rolled into their lake.
>put a fence around your fricking lake!
>No moron.
I'm gonna go and fill my neighbour's pitbull's face with lead now
Circle of life and all that
A pet killing a wild animal is not the same as pet on pet violence. Hell a wild animal killing a pet isn't the same either.
Yeah, it is.
Your cat isn't immune from being treated exactly like it treats other animals. If you let your little fur baby go around murdering animals why shouldn't it be allowed to be murdered by someone elses pet? The dog, or coyote, or puma, is just defending its territory from what is objectively a nuisance and disease-spreading pest. It's no different from your cat killing a rodent. Lots of people keep pet rats. You don't see them letting them outside and shrieking about cats. After all, the cats are meant to be confined to their yards... oh wait, rat owners CANT let their pets explore a secure yard because the cats are not contained. This is as if there were fence-leaping pitbulls and you couldn't even let your cat hang out in your own backyard.
You are human, not an animal, therein lies the difference. If you believe humans are animals then you consent to being treated like an animal.
>Your cat isn't immune from being treated exactly like it treats other animals
Except it is, proof: me
NTA but my dog caught a cat last night. He brought it right to my feet still alive but with some minor wounds. I scruffed it and chucked it over the fence.
That was a kinder mercy than that cat ever allowed the innumerable and more sentient rats and birds it tortured for fun and it deserved worse. Outdoor cats are vermin.
Let me assure, c*ts are not the reason I don't take my rats outside.
>If you believe humans are animals then you consent to being treated like an animal.
So you'll admit there's tiers to respect among living things, but not that "being owned by a human" is a higher tier?
I would hardly call a roaming pet owned by anyone. If you own it, why are you not at my house sifting around to pick up all its SHIT?
>I wasn't trespassing officer, I was picking up my cat's shit from anon's yard.
>what is being invited
i tried inviting them once and they said "its buried, stop crying, he's helping you by hunting rats"
it had less than a cm of dirt over it and you could smell it, and it was unburied if i did any garden work
i was just now seeing rats for the first time as they were coming out to scavenge dead birds
dog did the needful
the cat no longer leaves their yard most likely because he was too injured to recover his climbing ability
>he's helping you by hunting rats
This meme will never die will it?
Cats do have a small effect on rats, by slowing the rate at which an infestation develops and alerting you to the first exploratory missions, giving you ample time to take preventative measures so the rats will have no reason to stay or no way in.
But if you already have rats or dont do shit? No chance.
if your pet is off leash and on my property it just got an extra "s" in that word. if your dog/cat is on my land it is not exempt from being treated like any other pest animal. my pet jaguar will eat it.
It is the exact same situation
I feed the birds. They always come back to my yard. They are friendly with me and will land by/near me. They are mine as much as the average outdoor cat would be.
>Well, you're steeped in death. Would you be alright with it if your cat got heemed and eaten by someone elses pet?
I saw my most murderous cat get hit by a car. It broke his back, broke his tooth and split his head open badly. One pupil was fully dilated and his back half completely didn't work. He just meowed and meowed at me in complete confusion until he didn't. That was 25 years ago and I still remember it quite clearly. So, speaking from experience, no. I would not be alright with that. I don't really see what that has to do with anything, though. What I was trying to say is that life is a weird, delicate miracle and we should not take its ending lightly. I just had to have my last cat put down because he had cancer so bad and I have lost 7 friends that have died from drugs, drowning, a lightning strike and car accidents. I know what I am talking about.
>Anon actually was steeped in death.
>life is a weird, delicate miracle and we should not take its ending lightly
So why do you voluntarily make yourself responsible for ending it, not just ending it, but ending for no discernible reason but "lol killing fun", by unleashing your cats on the world?
It's like, the duality of man, or something.
I can assure you the pigeon wanted to live even if it knew it was doomed. You did the right thing by not killing it.
I think a person should be able to handle things when these situations arise. It's an unpleasant thing to do, but if you truly care about the animal, allowing it to suffer needlessly is ten times as unpleasant as the momentary unpleasantness of killing it.
>as I held my knife.
What were you thinking of doing, skinning it and boiling it for dinner?
You should have just stomped on it. Break its neck and it dies instantly.
>What were you thinking of doing
Slitting its throat; IDK.
>You should have just stomped on it. Break its neck and it dies instantly.
Like I said— I couldnt.
okay whatever
imagine being the pigeon and suffering (without understanding anything that's going on) for a few more hours or days
i don't get the fetish we have for keeping things "alive" when there's no point anymore
seems like a knee jerk reaction to avoid becoming responsible and having to make real decisions. normie mindset.
Not his fricking problem. Let a particularly brave crow finish the fricker off. It would have a much better reason than "muh end the suffering." Yeah that's great, let the poor creature's final moments be abject terror as it can't escape the literal giant come to crush the life out of it.
>Yeah that's great, let the poor creature's final moments be abject terror as it can't escape the literal giant come to crush the life out of it.
>final moments
emphasis on the word "moments" here, and that's assuming that it will even be aware of you at that point.
Just think of what you would have preferred if you were in the animal's situation and decide if it's worth the effort on your part. It's not super complicated.
>Just think of what you would have preferred if you were in the animal's situation
Presumably like every other living thing my desire would be to try and survive, regardless of how impossible survival actually is. Now think of your reason for doing it, and how utterly selfish it is.
>regardless of how impossible survival actually is
It's not a question of how hard survival is. It's a question of whether it's worth bothering doing it. If you say that you'd prefer to survive in ALL possible circumstances, you're either lying or deluded.
>It's a question of whether it's worth bothering doing it (living).
Literally only a depressed human would think like this.
Does that make it untrue?
>Just think of what you would have preferred if you were in the animal's situation
just pretend ur a pigeon bro
>can't into the golden rule
Sad!
Anon, how often does human intervention work out for the natural world.
As often as not, leaving things well enough alone is the best option.
I always think about the end of a Canticle for Lebowitz where the guy is trying to stop some lady from euthanizing her irradiated baby and tells a story about the time he tried to put his dog out of its misery and it going bad.
Then he and everyone die in an atomic fire.
Its a really good sci fi book that I've always thought is criminally underrated.
>Am I weak or too caring
Both.