A friend told me all birds in the U.S. named after a person are going to be re-named next year. Is this true? Because this is the stupidest thing I've heard of in a long time.
A friend told me all birds in the U.S. named after a person are going to be re-named next year. Is this true?
those poor native ornithologists would have totally named them better names if only those damned colonists didn’t tell them to stop practicing cannibalism
>NATIVE POPULATIONS KNEW ABOUT FOR MILENNIA
why do libshits give those wiener gobblers so much credit?
>Baltimore Oriole
>it's an oriole found near Baltimore
>American goldfinch
>it's a bright yellow finch found in America
>steller's jay
>it's a jay that... some dude named steller found? or someone named it after him? her? who cares, this tells me nothing about the bird
Descriptive names are more useful, and it saves time over every single person name slowly becoming too racist/sexist/whateverist for current year.
The only reason to get mad at this is because you conceptually hate any change at all, or maybe you just really live for the constant stupid shit-flinging when Dicks Binglesworth, namesake of the Binglesworth Thrush, is discovered to have invented pneumonia.
Also I'm pretty sure they're welcoming public input to names, so go hog-wild on that.
>it's a jay that... some dude named steller found? or someone named it after him? her? who cares, this tells me nothing about the bird
It tells you it's a stellar bird because it is awesome. And once you know the name who cares if it's descriptive or not, you already know what it refers to by that point. Not like Gray Jay is going to help you any unless you already are looking at a picture, in which case might as well name it Larry's Jay then.
arguably more confusing, oh, it's a blue bird: is it a blue jay, a scrub jay? grosbeak? stellars jay?
Sorry chuds, I'm still going to call them the original names and you can't stop me.
eBird reviewers will stop you.
>uhm excuse me sweaty, did you just say coopers hawk?
Jesus christ we are talking about common names drop yourself off an overpass you are actually too autistic for Wauf and too stupid to live
Common names are all anyone uses for birds. Not even bird watchers are autistic enough to memorize all the scientific names.
DEI got a hold of the discipline, so now they have to change all the names because diversity and shit.
>cuckmericans
Your irrelevant backwater has statues of Karl Marx in their town square
This is something boomers just heard about last week and Always Cared About. It's only the common names, which don't matter anyway. The only effect will be new field guide editions. The whole thing is actually moronic and you should feel bad about making this thread and frick right off leave. Frankly I wish they'd find out what the Native Americans called every species of bird and beat the shit out of your little mouthbreather kids for ever calling an opichi a 'robin'
>just don't care about anything bro! Let the fart-inhaling busybodies rewrite and police your language or you're a heckin chud!
Unironically have a nice day you complete waste of oxygen.
>nooooooo if you aren't against thing that i didn't even know about until 10 minutes ago, you want le society to le collapse!!!!!!!!!
low IQ thought pattern. very VERY common on this site
>find out what the Native Americans called every species of bird
Native names are not safe or inclusive, either. There was some Hawaiian bird that had its name changed to the Native Hawaiian and it turns out the new native name actually references veganas. Very problematic, wouldn't you say?
>Birds are named either for the first location they were killed and collected or relative to other birds already known to colonials.
>source: my ass
>Very problematic, wouldn't you say?
Not at all because women can do no wrong in modern society. If libs had their way every bird would be named after veganas.
The name mocks the appearance of the vegana. That's 'misogyny' 101.
You just keep changing your story. First they were named based on where they were first killed, now there are 3 criteria. Funnily enough, none of these 3 criteria you are now using even cover the bird you originally gave as an example, the Northern Mockingbird, which is named after on its vocal mimicry.
I mean, anyone that has done any birding can give you hundreds of examples that don't match those 3 criteria.
>Northern Mockingbird
Last reply youre getting out of me you fricking troll NORTHERN. NORTHERN. NORTHERN. WHAT DO YOU THINK NORTHERN MEANS? God damn you must have loved lead based paint as a kid holy frick
But Linnaeus didn't call it Northern Mockingbird, he called it Turdus polyglottos aka Many-tongued Thrush, YOU FRICKING moron.
>The name mocks the appearance of the vegana.
What was the name?
Dear moron you can read accounts of collections by early euro imperialists where they explain why they called the bird being described what they did. The main reasons are
>i named it after some guy whose ass i wanted to kiss
>i named it for the region or state i happened to be in when i shot it
>i named it for a superficial feature it has/a feature you could only possibly notice with the dead bird in hand while using a magnifying glass or microscope
>i named it for a superficial feature it has/a feature you could only possibly notice with the dead bird in hand while using a magnifying glass or microscope
Literally the Ring-necked Duck scenario. Why don't they rename THAT instead of all these other perfectly fine ones?
It's happened numerous times throughout history in this specific field. You're just seething now cause you think it's some culture war bullshit when in fact it's a fairly common practice.
>think
it’s been clearly stated the reason why is culture war bs
Yeah its true and its fricking moronic. I am just going to ignore it. I wrote my own birdwatching software so I don't have to use the new reddit names.
Canada started this one and we hopped on board.
The hard left has gone full moron. It's embarrassing. I'm an old gay and have been a registered Dem my entire adult life. This is really fricking lame
>Keeps voting Dem
>Why do these people keep ending up in positions of power and making things worse??
I haven't voted Dem since '04, moron. You remember 2004? Doubt it. As soon as they put the Black man in front of me, they lost this voter
Then why don't you unregister? You're still passively supporting them. They gain funding based on numbers.
Speaking of which who do I b***h to to revert the bird names back to how they should be?
Dems have been trotting out house Black folks since the 70s, and it took you until the 2008 primary to start questioning it?
I hate the trend of forcing indigenous names into english.
First of all, just because a culture was there before us doesnt mean they have some sort of vultural ownership of an animal, the aninal was there ling before them.
Secondly why does the english taxonomic community need to include nin english names? I wouldnt expect china or something to be forced to call european animals by european names. Different languages can call things whatever the frick they like, so why does english need to be so "considerate".
Only the ones named after white people. israeli names will not be removed from the sciences.
You will then be told white people never invented or discovered anything.
They are changing all human names, precisely to remove any possibility of bias. Birds should be named for their features, not who discovered them
Are they removing israeli names from physics in favor of more descriptive terms?
And by israeli we all know they’re not really israelites, they’re inbred germans claiming to be hebrew like americans claim to be cherokee. I’m an actual israelite. We’re brown. We never have blonde hair. israelite is our religion and hebrew is our race. These germans are destroying your civilization (again).
What about Gray Jay? It was a clear descriptive name. Now it's Canada Jay. Okay but they live in California too, so that's a poor name. If they can't be named after people they shouldn't be named after regions either since they move around so much.
>Canada
>California
I propose "gay jay"
what about it? that was a separate change from 2018
I'm saying how stupid it was then and how inconsistent they're being. Names are taboo but just as equally bad location names are okay? They're hippocrits.
Birds are named either for the first location they were killed and collected or relative to other birds already known to colonials. That's why it's called the northern mockingbird when it's only found in the southern states.
>That's why it's called the northern mockingbird when it's only found in the southern states.
???
I've seen them all over Oregon and California
Those are both southern states relative to the rest of the country. Southern is a direction it doesn't mean the cousinfricker definition.
There is no conceivable way in which Oregon is a southern state.
God you're moronic, northern mockingbirds were first collected on the southeastern side of the country they were just called northern because in comparison to the mockingbirds of central and south america they were the most northern
You said Oregon is southern "relative to the rest of the country" which is false.
you said Oregon was southern you are the moron my friend
>That's why it's called the northern mockingbird when it's only found in the southern states
"Northern" as in North America, anon.
Whomsoever it is also found in Mexico and Cuba perchance
so, still part of north america?
Audubon is pulling this shit too. Multiple branches are removing his name because of some shit he may have said one time, or something. I think Seattle already did this, and Portland is next. Who knows how many others have followed too.
Audubon was a slave owner, plagiarist, fraudster, and generally a nasty person. Good riddance.
everyone in the entire world was a slave owner before industrialization.
even slaves had their own slaves.
It's even more moronic when you learn the reason is for diversity equity and inclusion
Everyone that ever lived prior to 2016 is problematic so they need to be removed
If we can't verify they were actively anti-racist then they are racist
>I wanted to be an ornithologist but the bird names were not inclusive and triggered me so I had to be a drug dealer instead
That's exactly why I assumed they were doing it. Especially after the case a couple years ago where the bird was named after the discoverer's friend who in the 1700s had slaves (only it turns out he really didn't but by the time that was learned the media stopped covering it).
Goddamn stupid politics is making me hate birdwatching again.
No one can force you to use the new names. I still call Peregrine Falcons Duck Hawks and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me.
It makes using eBird kind of a hassle when you don't know the current name anymore. I bet it's all a scam to sell new editions of ID books.
I stand by this. A sizeable number of people are still going to refer them by their original names. You can't just change common names.
>You can't just change common names.
Literally happens all the time.
not all at once. you can change the name of the cooper’s hawk and eventually people will just accept its new name over time. but you change every bird with the name associated with any human name, you’re just going to confuse and annoy people to the point of not caring
>OP replies to himself because he wants to talk about 'wokeism' on Wauf
>t. OP still bumping his thread two days later craving attention
its true and its a good thing, frick hum*ns