>124,061,094 pigs, 8,127,632,113 chickens, 36,163,973 cattle and 214,508,816 turkeys get killed in the US alone EVERY YEAR
>we can't have ONE arena fight between a lion and a tiger
>cloning A SINGLE mammoth is considered "unethical"
Fricking whiny pseudo-intellectual navel-gazing ethicist pussies, let people have fun.
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I want an arena fight between a hippo and an elephant seal NOW
The answer isn't to satisfy your incel gore fetish by forcing animals to kill eachother to make your micropenis tingle, it's to murder half of the US so there will be less demand for meat
The answer is both.
>hurr durr kill hooman to fix problem
You almost sounded reasonable.
>hurr durr kill hooman to fix problem
You absolutely sound based and redpilled
Ok but only the states with the most minorities then we have a deal
>forcing animals to kill eachother
Nah, it's their choice to kill each other.
>your incel gore fetish
Nah, it's like boxing except with animals (and they might die). It has chad appeal. Mike Tyson would watch it.
ape on ape let’s go!!!
It's only unethical if you don't eat the lion or mammoth afterwards
Based take. That makes two birds with one stone: we can have our fun and finally find out what they taste like.
And why isn't it considered as 'fun' anymore when it is about a human mating with a lion or a mammoth?
Do not the mammoth teen
we know what they taste like. Russians have found frozen mammoth carcasses in Siberia. Apparently even with 10,000 years of freezer burn it tastes fine.
There is an inherent moral difference between killing for fun and killing to sustain an entire human population. However is right, eating them immediately negates any moral negative. However the person who killed the animal must be the one to eat it, otherwise their sole motivation was fun through murder, which is bad.
>There is an inherent moral difference between killing for fun and killing to sustain an entire human population.
>b-but overconsumption....
Is a symptom of our consumerist capitalist society and not an inherent issue with animal agriculture. I agree overconsumption and factory farming bad. If you fat amerifricks put the burger down every once in a while the human population could be sustained with far more sustainable, ethical, and eco-friendly animal farming practises.
Overconsumption is the elephant in the room, it's the norm in many countries even outside the US. Making ethical and sustainable farming the norm would take A LOT more than some americans putting their burgers down once in a while. The meat consumption of my grandparents during WW2 was a tiny fraction of what it is now.
I know it would take a lot more than that anonfren, I'm just pointing out the fact that the biggest issues with current animal ag arent inherent to animal ag and therefore any criticisms of animal ag are actually just criticisms of overconsumption.
Then why was the "b-but" necessary? And OP posted the actual numbers regarding the US. Overconsumption is inherent to those numbers and the living conditions of those animals.
Also, even in small scale farming the total amount of unnecessary cruelty dwarfs a hypothetical lion/tiger arena fight.
No, not really. Consider what is actually cruel and what is "IF I WERE THE COW BUT STILL HAD MY HUMAN BRAIN, I..." moronic autist attempting to emulate empathy cruel, aka vegan-cruel.
Think of the idiots who accuse pet owners of constantly abusing animals, because if they were a cat, they would want to be free and follow their god given purpose
To the cats brain its just activity and stress levels and they do not really enjoy it, it's more like the compulsion experienced by a long term druggy who no longer enjoys the high, but unlike a druggy it can be sated through other means
Don't be that kind of idiot
Be more like temple grandin, who actually thought about what the animals ACTUALLY felt
For instance it's doubtful cows consistently fear and comprehend death, only pain and the screams and scent of adrenaline-laced blood associated with predation. Pigs and dogs on the other hand have demonstrated some understanding of the inevitable, although not consistently (could be chalked up to a prevalent moronation gene or cognitive skills learned in youth modulating sapience) so perhaps we should not kill them.
If you have any doubts because "muh heckin mammals must be just like me", just eat chickens. I have 8 chickens. I kill them in front of each other. They try to participate and want to eat the dead/dying chicken. I put a dog down in front of another dog once (coyote injury, guts hanging out) and the surviving dog feared me, bit me, etc, so I had to give them away. They attacked their new owner and went to the pound where they were euthanized for fearing and attacking people in general.
You're responding to an argument I never made. Do you think every small farm and slaughterhouse in the world inflicts the least amount of physical pain possible?
>moronic autist attempting to emulate empathy cruel, aka vegan-cruel
wtf is this made up phenomenon? you're a bigger schizo than the people you're criticizing
Who the frick cares.
Let's do whatever is cool.
I care
I asked
Who told you that cloning mammoths was possible in the first place
I'm not saying it is, but people are already arguing about whether it's "ethical", just in case it's possible in the future.