The "eat ze bugs" propaganda is just a counterintuitive psyop.
>"the world is running out of meat, better start eating ze bugs" >nooo! bugs are disgusting! I will never eat them! I would rather go vegetarian before I do that! >"ha, got 'em"
The end goal isn't to make you eat bugs. It's to condition you into accepting vegetarianism and/or veganism.
dogs contribute and have some say, even if they will be put down they have some say, some bargaining power, some chance. but cattle exist oblivious and then they are harvested. like the plants they eat. first you were an ape, then you were a dog. now you will be a cow.
The end goal is to get you to scarf down as much meat as possible.
Most of the stuff we eat is produced by huge multinational corporations and they don't want to lose market share to a new food source
Very well then. Either way, I'm just some sucker and they're after my money. I might as well continue my business with the same corporation I've been handing my money over to.
"Die early" means die at 70-80 before you start losing a dozen IQ points a year and need a continuous regimen of medical care to eek out something resembling life, of course, but they won't say that.
The end goal is to get you to scarf down as much meat as possible.
Most of the stuff we eat is produced by huge multinational corporations and they don't want to lose market share to a new food source
A diet that fills in the inherent deficiencies of plants with meat can be produced locally. Animals can eat food waste, human waste, anything, anywhere. They do not actually NEED space and stimulation and bla bla bla. You can keep a cow tied to one tree for its two year life before you eat it. And it works really well because what crops you can reliably grow is related to where you live and when, and it's actually quite difficult to work all that land. You can't actually survive as a vegan without the fruits of multinational corporations:
Diesel fuel and trucks
Heavy fuel oil and barges
Jet fuel and cargo planes
Combine harvesters
Exploitative third world labor
Industrially produced supplements and processed, fortified foods
You see all those multinationals have an arm in every business and if you stop eating meat they will just sell you a meat alternative that is LITERALLY more profitable.
But if you will never, ever accept that you are a threat to the climate or something because we need unchecked reproduction and the world population MUST reach 16 billion and never fall. Or else the monopoly money ponzi scheme needs restructured and we need to do stuff like deny corporate personhood and re-institute forced labor in place of welfare. The horror.
>Crystallized intelligence "averages 98 at ages 20–24, rises to 101 by ages 35–44, before declining to 100 (ages 45–54), then 98 (55–64), then 96 (65–69), then 93 (70–74), and 88 (75+)," says Kaufman. >Fluid intelligence drops much more quickly. Kaufman reveals that it "peaks at ages 20–24 (100), drops gradually to 99 (25–34) and 96 (35–44) before starting a rollercoaster plunge to 91 (45–54), 86 (55–64), 83 (65–69), 79 (70–74), and 72 (75+)."
well i dont want to miss out on being literally retarded so i'm going to stop eating red meat and only eat a tiny piece of chicken once a week
hold on what were you just talking about? where's my lighter? i need a smoke. call the seargeant i think jones stole my marlboros again. what do you mean this isn't nam?
The subphylum Crustacea includes everything under Pancrustacea except Hexapoda. If you're classifying using cladistics (which exclusively uses monophyletic clades and is generally preferred), then you need to include all of the descendants, which includes Hexapods.
It's the same reason Paleognaths is preferred when referring to the non-penguin flightless birds as opposed to ratites, because by using the latter you're arbitrarily excluding Tinamous (which have a keel)
deny all you like, but why would the same alergens be present in both animals if they were different? we don't have this problem with nut alergies since many nuts are simply not the same. check and mate
people who are alergic to shellfish can't eat cicadas. shelfish are bugs
) alleges that shellfish and insects are one and the same due to a mutual allergen.
I'll have you know that even mollusks have the very same allergen. I would say it's a bigger stretch to say that octopus & squid are bugs, but if you tell me in writing that you personally recognize these species as insects, I will happily drop the issue. I don't care about being wrong or right on a Laotian poetry slam, I care more about consistency.
Yea because both are trees retard
top fucking kek
Kiwis grow on vines, you sub-moron.
Alergies work geometrically. Similar molecules get recognized by the immune system. Just because two molecules look similar doesn't mean they are genetically similar.
If you eat seafood you're eating inferior meat. You're eating primordial critters dragged from the world's public toilet, the ocean. Weak, snotty, slimy animals with the consistency of rubber once cooked, and entirely lacking in flavor.
I'd eat whale meat if I didn't care about animal welfare, but that's about it. Nothing else from the ocean goes past my teeth.
You wouldn't eat whale meat because it tastes fucking horrible. Gamey beef/fishy taste, the kind of fishy taste only oily fish have. Absoluetly horrid, and I love mackerel and saury so that's saying a lot.
In your moral compass, would it be acceptable to eat fish that was caught in lakes, rivers, and ponds? You very specifically mentioned oceans in your post, and I would imagine that lakes & rivers generally receive better environmental protection than oceans.
This "meme" is a psyop to try and normalize the association between the two, not to convince YOU, but to get Skyler Smithies down the road to give you that fluoride stare when you tell her that eating mealworms or crickets is bad for her.
>eating mealworms or crickets is bad for her.
Thing is it really isn't at all. And I say that as a 4chan chud. In fact, if you look at it objectively, insects and other terrestrial arthropods are a lean, protein packed livestock that require next to nothing to raise (in comparison to large mammals and fowl) and are extremely economically sustainable, and if we got more of our "meat" from invertebrates instead of large mammals and soi, it would free up ludicrous amounts of land for either nature directly or indirectly by vastly decreasing the demand for agricultural land. All you need is a steady stream of cheap/excess produce and you have infinite insect production.
If zog didn't have to politicize it and push it on people with guilt, westerners would probably be much more open to eating insect based foods. Only reason I don't eat them is because I'm being told to do it and also I'm picky about eating the guts and internal organs (which is something we already do with traditional livestock as well as small fish like sardines). I think lots of others don't like the guts part, which is why crustaceans are normal to eat, as they are bigger and have large meaty parts that can be separated from the organs reliably.
I never understood how this is supposed to be done epic own. Cats and Cows are both mammals but both of them do not taste the same or as easy to farm or gather. Dumb as fuck.
>Insects are crustaceans
No they aren't. But both are arthropods. >Birds are dinosaurs
This is correct >Cats are fish
Technically kinda sorta but not really.
>No they aren't. But both are arthropods.
"Not they aren't" said he, a fat fuck who plays video games in his free time.
It's perfectly plausible that insects are an offshot of a crustacean lineage. In that case, by your idiotic "birds dinosaurs" monophyletic cargo cult nomenclature, they are crustaceans.
>Technically kinda sorta but not really.
Holy shit you are a fucktard. have a nice day or accept that you need to modify your birds are dinosaurs line in the same way.
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The monophyletics cargo cultists are pathetic. They literally CLING, they CLING to the hope that genetic and other such inferential studies don't reveal that insects are a clade nested with crustaceans. Why do they hope that? Because it would further erode a till-now useful, flavorful, evocative term "crustacean".
Why do you hope that? Why do you hope some lineage isn't part of some other? That is a fucking strange hope to have. Look into a mirror. You have such garbage memes internalized that it modifies your entire world outlook, leading you to have bizarre hopes that science doesn't reveal a fact (rather than reacting with pleasant curiosity).
At what point will you admit your meme of monophyletics is useless, as it just destroys useful terms?
Again: you are actually hoping insects don't turn out to be crustaceans. I still can't get over the fact what NPCs you are.
In order for the bony fish clade to be considered monophyletic, tetrapods need to be included within it.
However even zoologists use "fish" in the traditional sense because in the cladistic sense it is synonymous with "vertebrate" and therefore effectively useless as a term.
Crabs are sea spiders
no, sea spiders are sea spiders
Filtered by taxonomy and phylogeny. Get off this board.
Shrimp are gross. Prisoners used to revolt because they were feed lobster. But I guess if it's expensive now I should basedface over slimy sea bugs.
No I'm not.
The "eat ze bugs" propaganda is just a counterintuitive psyop.
>"the world is running out of meat, better start eating ze bugs"
>nooo! bugs are disgusting! I will never eat them! I would rather go vegetarian before I do that!
>"ha, got 'em"
The end goal isn't to make you eat bugs. It's to condition you into accepting vegetarianism and/or veganism.
And now we have another narrative to help segway into the same goal.
>"you know, seafood is also bugs"
>ewwww! I'm never eating seafood again! I will not eat the bugs!
>"ha, got 'em"
it's more cost effective to feed cattle than dogs
dogs contribute and have some say, even if they will be put down they have some say, some bargaining power, some chance. but cattle exist oblivious and then they are harvested. like the plants they eat. first you were an ape, then you were a dog. now you will be a cow.
The end goal is to get you to scarf down as much meat as possible.
Most of the stuff we eat is produced by huge multinational corporations and they don't want to lose market share to a new food source
Very well then. Either way, I'm just some sucker and they're after my money. I might as well continue my business with the same corporation I've been handing my money over to.
"Die early" means die at 70-80 before you start losing a dozen IQ points a year and need a continuous regimen of medical care to eek out something resembling life, of course, but they won't say that.
A diet that fills in the inherent deficiencies of plants with meat can be produced locally. Animals can eat food waste, human waste, anything, anywhere. They do not actually NEED space and stimulation and bla bla bla. You can keep a cow tied to one tree for its two year life before you eat it. And it works really well because what crops you can reliably grow is related to where you live and when, and it's actually quite difficult to work all that land. You can't actually survive as a vegan without the fruits of multinational corporations:
Diesel fuel and trucks
Heavy fuel oil and barges
Jet fuel and cargo planes
Combine harvesters
Exploitative third world labor
Industrially produced supplements and processed, fortified foods
You see all those multinationals have an arm in every business and if you stop eating meat they will just sell you a meat alternative that is LITERALLY more profitable.
But if you will never, ever accept that you are a threat to the climate or something because we need unchecked reproduction and the world population MUST reach 16 billion and never fall. Or else the monopoly money ponzi scheme needs restructured and we need to do stuff like deny corporate personhood and re-institute forced labor in place of welfare. The horror.
>Crystallized intelligence "averages 98 at ages 20–24, rises to 101 by ages 35–44, before declining to 100 (ages 45–54), then 98 (55–64), then 96 (65–69), then 93 (70–74), and 88 (75+)," says Kaufman.
>Fluid intelligence drops much more quickly. Kaufman reveals that it "peaks at ages 20–24 (100), drops gradually to 99 (25–34) and 96 (35–44) before starting a rollercoaster plunge to 91 (45–54), 86 (55–64), 83 (65–69), 79 (70–74), and 72 (75+)."
well i dont want to miss out on being literally retarded so i'm going to stop eating red meat and only eat a tiny piece of chicken once a week
hold on what were you just talking about? where's my lighter? i need a smoke. call the seargeant i think jones stole my marlboros again. what do you mean this isn't nam?
They're both Pancrustacea though.
The subphylum Crustacea includes everything under Pancrustacea except Hexapoda. If you're classifying using cladistics (which exclusively uses monophyletic clades and is generally preferred), then you need to include all of the descendants, which includes Hexapods.
It's the same reason Paleognaths is preferred when referring to the non-penguin flightless birds as opposed to ratites, because by using the latter you're arbitrarily excluding Tinamous (which have a keel)
an important factor here is that insects are mostly goo whereas shellfish actually have meat
I will not eat the bugs, you cannot gaslight me into accepting your sophistry.
people who are alergic to shellfish can't eat cicadas. shelfish are bugs
People who are allergic to kiwi can't use latex. Disposable gloves are fruits.
deny all you like, but why would the same alergens be present in both animals if they were different? we don't have this problem with nut alergies since many nuts are simply not the same. check and mate
Allow me to recap. The originating post (
) alleges that shellfish and insects are one and the same due to a mutual allergen.
I'll have you know that even mollusks have the very same allergen. I would say it's a bigger stretch to say that octopus & squid are bugs, but if you tell me in writing that you personally recognize these species as insects, I will happily drop the issue. I don't care about being wrong or right on a Laotian poetry slam, I care more about consistency.
top fucking kek
Kiwis grow on vines, you sub-moron.
octopus and squid can't be bugs cause the don't have exo skeletons like shrimp and crickets
thats because squids turned their exoskeleton into an endoskeleton
>he doesn't know about the history of mollusks
What do you think snail shells are?
delicious
>Kiwis grow on vines
not him, but I thought they grew on trees, and my arctic kiwi vines were special lol
Yea because both are trees retard
Alergies work geometrically. Similar molecules get recognized by the immune system. Just because two molecules look similar doesn't mean they are genetically similar.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK bro
IF IT TASTES GOOD, I'M EATING IT
HELL YEAH
LET'S GO BRANDON
This is like saying a mammal or a bird is a tunicate. Or even that the nutritional value of a bird or mammal is equivalent to a tunicate's.
That's not Rhopalaea crassa. It's actually an unnamed species of Ascidian, which is odd, because it's very common and showy.
Bugs don't have meat, scrimps do. Simple as
I don't eat shrimp. They give me an allergic reaction.
>You're eating insects
>Not knowing how taxonomy works
Why are you here?
If you eat seafood you're eating inferior meat. You're eating primordial critters dragged from the world's public toilet, the ocean. Weak, snotty, slimy animals with the consistency of rubber once cooked, and entirely lacking in flavor.
I'd eat whale meat if I didn't care about animal welfare, but that's about it. Nothing else from the ocean goes past my teeth.
I only eat meat from the planet's most prime species, man.
You wouldn't eat whale meat because it tastes fucking horrible. Gamey beef/fishy taste, the kind of fishy taste only oily fish have. Absoluetly horrid, and I love mackerel and saury so that's saying a lot.
That's fucking sad. Looks like even these great ungulates have been tainted by that horrible cesspool, the Ocean.
It also has a fuckton of mercury in it
In your moral compass, would it be acceptable to eat fish that was caught in lakes, rivers, and ponds? You very specifically mentioned oceans in your post, and I would imagine that lakes & rivers generally receive better environmental protection than oceans.
I never liked seafood, checkmate cunt.
jokes on you, i dont eat shrimp because they're bugs. dont eat crab or lobster either, enjoy ur seabugs tho
This "meme" is a psyop to try and normalize the association between the two, not to convince YOU, but to get Skyler Smithies down the road to give you that fluoride stare when you tell her that eating mealworms or crickets is bad for her.
>eating mealworms and crickets is bad for her
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Leviticus 11:42
have a nice day
Repent
There are 4000 religions on earth and the majority of them think a crazy rabbi just made that up based on what gave him the shits and what didn't
Mark 7:15
Ezekiel 23:20
chew you havisfaction a singlicious satisfact to snack that up?
>eating mealworms or crickets is bad for her.
Thing is it really isn't at all. And I say that as a 4chan chud. In fact, if you look at it objectively, insects and other terrestrial arthropods are a lean, protein packed livestock that require next to nothing to raise (in comparison to large mammals and fowl) and are extremely economically sustainable, and if we got more of our "meat" from invertebrates instead of large mammals and soi, it would free up ludicrous amounts of land for either nature directly or indirectly by vastly decreasing the demand for agricultural land. All you need is a steady stream of cheap/excess produce and you have infinite insect production.
If zog didn't have to politicize it and push it on people with guilt, westerners would probably be much more open to eating insect based foods. Only reason I don't eat them is because I'm being told to do it and also I'm picky about eating the guts and internal organs (which is something we already do with traditional livestock as well as small fish like sardines). I think lots of others don't like the guts part, which is why crustaceans are normal to eat, as they are bigger and have large meaty parts that can be separated from the organs reliably.
Yes, and?
I never understood how this is supposed to be done epic own. Cats and Cows are both mammals but both of them do not taste the same or as easy to farm or gather. Dumb as fuck.
All insects are crustaceans but not all crustaceans are insects
Notably sea bugs actually contain a lot of muscle instead of anti-nutritious chitin and haemolyph
Crustaceans are not insects and insects are not crustaceans.
Both are arthropods.
Insects are crustaceans
Birds are dinosaurs
Cats are fish
>Insects are crustaceans
No they aren't. But both are arthropods.
>Birds are dinosaurs
This is correct
>Cats are fish
Technically kinda sorta but not really.
If you agree that birds are dinosaurs then insects are crustaceans.
Regardless bringing up taxonomy in discussions about food is dumb as hell.
>No they aren't. But both are arthropods.
"Not they aren't" said he, a fat fuck who plays video games in his free time.
It's perfectly plausible that insects are an offshot of a crustacean lineage. In that case, by your idiotic "birds dinosaurs" monophyletic cargo cult nomenclature, they are crustaceans.
>Technically kinda sorta but not really.
Holy shit you are a fucktard. have a nice day or accept that you need to modify your birds are dinosaurs line in the same way.
(adding)
The monophyletics cargo cultists are pathetic. They literally CLING, they CLING to the hope that genetic and other such inferential studies don't reveal that insects are a clade nested with crustaceans. Why do they hope that? Because it would further erode a till-now useful, flavorful, evocative term "crustacean".
Why do you hope that? Why do you hope some lineage isn't part of some other? That is a fucking strange hope to have. Look into a mirror. You have such garbage memes internalized that it modifies your entire world outlook, leading you to have bizarre hopes that science doesn't reveal a fact (rather than reacting with pleasant curiosity).
At what point will you admit your meme of monophyletics is useless, as it just destroys useful terms?
Again: you are actually hoping insects don't turn out to be crustaceans. I still can't get over the fact what NPCs you are.
Moron contrarian moment
>>Cats are fish
>Technically kinda sorta but not really.
please elaborate. this better not going to be a catfish joke.
In order for the bony fish clade to be considered monophyletic, tetrapods need to be included within it.
However even zoologists use "fish" in the traditional sense because in the cladistic sense it is synonymous with "vertebrate" and therefore effectively useless as a term.
Humans are lungfish.
This sounds like shrimp cope
>Anti-nutritious
Source?