cats are very sweet when they like you. you can pretty much just pet them till you get sick of it, and if you really like petting your cat chances are because you do it so often you will get sick of it sooner than them.
Mine is exactly the same or at least during most situations. If it's very cold/raining or there's a thunderstorm then he comes to sit on my lap without fail.
My cat is really weird about sitting on laps. He acts like he doesn't want to at first (and I guess he doesn't) so you kind of have to wrestle him to stay on you for a few seconds, but once he gets comfortable he's fine. Once that happens if you take him off your lap he'll even jump back on and curl up again.
Like imagine that webm of an aggressive raccoon attacking a popsicle until it licks it and then it just likes it, that's how my cat is with being on laps. I only do that when he's obviously seeking attention of course.
I have both dogs and cats and I raise both in a manner that lets them understand that it's my house, not theirs.
Cats can be trained just fine if you're not a retard.
Also, I see PLENTY of dog owners who fail to discipline their pet too. It's by no means limited to kitties.
there is a signed life-sized cutout of this guy in the staff bathroom where I work, is he some sort of cesar milan for toxofags? he trains fucking cats? do cat people actually do this shit?
>is he some sort of cesar milan for toxofags?
More or less >he trains fucking cats?
All those "animal whisper" tv personalities are more training the owners not abuse their pets than they are training the animal.
dont mind me just a dogchad stopping by to laugh at how psychotic cat people are >I WILL DOMINATE THE CAT >AND GIVE THEM WEED >BURRITO OF SUBMISSION
idk what else to expect from a random selection taken from the same group that literally spammed our thread on and off for 2y ears and made "PSAs from catcord"
What is even wrong with what he is saying? This guy knows far more about cats than you do. In fact he's preaching to be very respectful of the pet giving it its personal space. Any pet I'd imagine would appreciate this. Problem is people want a living toy for their own selfish self gratification.
It's just op, he can't comprehend the wants and desires of others so he forces himself on them ultimately pushing everyone away because he can't understand or care for how they feel.
Luckily for op cats are powerless and dependant on him so they can't escape his abuse.
Dogfags are the same, but the difference is that dogs are much more compliant generally with no sense of personal space, so they love being touched and manhandled by their owners. People who are used to owning dogs then think they can treat cats the same when cats are more skittish and prefer calm interactions.
A Cat will happily tell you when it doesn't want interaction.
I used to get up in my cats face all the time when she was sleeping and while she looked a little annoyed, she was happy to get a headstroke while sunbathing.
they will learn to love it even if drugs will be used in the conditioning process
tyvm to whoever recommended decarbed weed with fish oil. now my kitty has his own stash and is okay with a lot more of his life (i, however, continue to support isntreal’s destruction)
>dont force interactions with cat
lmao a stray black cat showed up at my house last september
super friendly, loved being held
he would sit up high on top of a plastic container outside and every morning I would walk up face level with him and he'd press his forehead against mine purring like an engine, every single day
the cat loves being held and comes up to you when it wants to be held, you're not forcing a reaction you're doing exactly what the cat wants
what would be forcing the interaction as the video says is if the cat is sleeping and you try to pick it up, despite it digging it's nails into the ground trying to not be picked up
people who allow an animal any freedom or control over them are probably dogfuckers. “muh woofy wifey is muh equal so i let them stop and sniff on walks and decide when she wants my loving” - zoophiles. cats are pets that means they get pet. if they got a problem I’m grabbing them with a blanket and making a cat burrito. one or two of those and they learn to stop resisting. cutting off their nuts before they grow up helps. the only unworkable cat i knew was spayed way too late.
Dogs don't have much sense of personal space like cats do, I can sneak up on my dog and bomb her with aggressive petting and scratching and she loves it, cats are prey as well as predators so that same thing startles them and can be overwhelming.
Most dogs are nearsighted or were bred to have good vision similar to humans. Cats are farsighted and can't really see that well up close. They rely more on their whiskers and scent to perceive what's close to them. When you sneak up on a cat to pet it, it's going to be more startled than a dog would be in the same scenario.
I pet them when i want
I pick them up at will
I set them where they want
I ignore their yowls
I rub their bellies
And they LOVE it
I will NOT cowtow to an animal
MY wants and needs come first
I am the MASTER
I OWN the cat
They have no free will. They have the privilege to follow mine.
people who try to train their cats are psychopaths. maybe for some super active breed like a bengal it makes, but the generic cat that makes up like 90% of all cats doesn't need training or bathing or any of that nonsense.
t. cat owner for 35 years
I wouldn't train my cat tricks, except for recall, having your cat come when called is nice if not useful.
Also I'm very patient and loose with the treats whenever I introduce something new to my cat, but that isn't training in the sense most people think of it.
High strung, Anon? The term falsely implies some sort of punishment, my mistake, and "imposing your will" is more apt, but you needn't get so excited now.
>High strung, Anon? The term falsely implies some sort of punishment, my mistake, and "imposing your will" is more apt, but you needn't get so excited now.
Some people think of their pets more like friends or family members than dolls or toys.
I care what my cat wants, she would only deny me pets of something was up anyway.
For example today she got to explore more of the house, she was feeling overwhelmed and didn't want pet so I let her work stuff out and once she felt more comfortable she let me rub her down as much as I wanted and now she's curled up with me sleeping happy, because she wants to not because I made her.
Not him but it's called training/conditioning anon. I also care about what my cat wants but nobody wants to have an animal around that scratches your face/hisses at you everytime it doesn't want something.
Maybe yours isn't like that but you understand what am I trying to say? Like you MUST carry your cat because there's a dangerous situation and you gotta get it out of the way and then it gets pissed and hisses? No thanks it will either like it or get brainwashed into liking it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Equates a cat not wanting pets sometimes to a situation where a cat needs to be kennel trained
Nice goalpost moving. Yes, a cat should be trained to go into a kennel when need be, but we're talking about when a cat does not want to be pet, it gives off clear signs it doesn't want to be touched, and if you don't respect their space, you could be smacked/scratched/bitten for it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>kennel trained
what are you talking about? are you dyslexic?
and how is that moving goalposts? both carrying and petting involve touching your pet when it doesn't want to and also that was just an example the point was that nobody wants to have a pet around that harms their owner when it doesn't want something and that's why sometimes you gotta imposible your will in order to train it. Doesn't mean we see the cat has a toy without free will.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I pet and handle my cat when I want
If they resist they will be taught futility
I am the cats owner. Their entire life is up to me. From kittenhood they learn to submit. And it works wonderfully.
Depends on the cat. You homosexuals can only think with an all of nothing mindset, cats have different personalities. just say to be mindful and attentive to cat body language.
What is even wrong with what he is saying? This guy knows far more about cats than you do. In fact he's preaching to be very respectful of the pet giving it its personal space. Any pet I'd imagine would appreciate this. Problem is people want a living toy for their own selfish self gratification.
The fag's correct. Cats do not like to be touched under most circumstances. Dogs are social, cats less so. You're treating it like a different kind of animal than what it is. >dogs >"WHO'S A GOOD BOY, WHO LOVES THEIR PETS?" >cats >"Hey, can you rid my house of vermin? Thanks."
See the difference?
Most cats that are properly socialized around humans loved to be petted. The difference is that they will come to you when they want pets. You can't just force pets on a cat if it's not in the mood vs a dog that wants to be pet and get up in your face 24/7.
The virgin dog >is your friend just because you’re nice, beta grindset >works for pay like a wagie cuck. pathetic. L >goes bark bark (ew)
The chad cat >worship them or you’re an animal abuser >work? never. based sigma male will not fall for your israeli scam. >actually tricks you into working for them by misleading you into thinking they did anything >cute little meow noises :3
>Cats do not like to be touched under most circumstances
That's because you are retarded and do not understand cat's social interactions. Do you think a mother cat asks its kitten its permission before picking it up? No.
But the cat understands the mother's intent better than yours, which is why its still sometimes less cooperative. If you understand how to build consistent interactions with cats you can, in time, easily get to a point where you can force affection on them and they will 100% love it and learn to expect it.
The main trick is to start acting like when lions who like each other meets and just rub their faces all over each other for 5 minutes. Start doing that every day, then 3~4 times a day, with one good 20 minutes sesh of facerubbing, and eventually petting aggression almost completely disappear.
Obviously, a cat's personality may make this more complex, but I've raised half a dozen cats from birth to death and they've always turned into absolute lovebugs that spoons me at night.
My cat likes it rough all over, up and down, even upside down, I smash her head between my hands and massage her whole head like I'm rolling dough into a ball, and she sleeps with me every night. And every time I pet her or pick her up I let her know I'm there and I stick my hand in front of her to sniff. She goes in her carrier just fine and has literally never scratched or bit me once.
It's not like it's even much to get your cats consent, she never says no anyways, she loves to be pet. >Petting aggression
As someone who has fostered well over 30 kittens a cat would only be aggressive if it was either feral or if you had 0 regard or even contempt for it's boundaries as many itt seem to. You are experiencing and having to overcome "petting aggression" because you are creating situations where the cats feels it has to assert itself, there is in fact a better way, where the cat learns to like you without being forced to like you, but you probably wouldn't understand how to be likeable in the first place since it seems like such a foreign idea to half of itt.
>a cat would only be aggressive
Petting aggression is not just being aggressive, its just stimulation buildup into overstimulation, and cats having very low tolerance as a whole depending on the situation. They have also a huge tolerance for ambivalence. Something can be pleasant and annoying at the same time for a cat and then it snaps into one side and they either lay their head down or mock bite your hand. My point is that once you solidify your relationship with a cat by constant bunting this disappears almost entirely.
Obviously I'm not saying walk up to any cat pick it up and do whatever you want to assert your alphaness to it. Cats are naturally skittish animal and very aware you could kill them in a moment. But don't either be distant and "let them approach you when they choose" because that's how you end up with cats that don't give a fuck about their owners.
I'm a kitty consent anon, but if your cat doesn't like being pet you probably do have a under socialized cat that either has some environmental stressors in your house or needs to have it's boundaries pushed a little more frequently. Cats are social in the wild and very affectionate, they are solitary hunters/eaters, but they hang out and cuddle in small troops. Female cats have extra nipples to feed others kittens as a matter of fact.
A cat that is aloof or skittish is probably stressed, that could be something physically wrong, something noisy in the house, being depressed for lack of cat furniture/toys/play mates, it is not a sign of a happy healthy cat whatever the cause.
Cats are individuals, but even a precautious cat will at least be affectionate to their fp several times per day in a relaxed environment.
cats are very sweet when they like you. you can pretty much just pet them till you get sick of it, and if you really like petting your cat chances are because you do it so often you will get sick of it sooner than them.
cats are such a pointless, pain in the ass, pet
i really dont get it
>cat owners be like
Is warm, is soft, and it's relaxing to pet them (I have one that likes petting very much)
So like dogs except they hate you and make your house smell like litterbox?
Idk they’re pretty cute.
Whenever I visit my grandmas one of her cats just goes and relaxes against me, I pet her in return.
I might take him more serious if he didn't look like a homosexual trying way too hard to stand out.
Like the ALIENS guy, but a raging homosexual.
>schizos turning yet another thread into cat vs dog homosexualry
I wish you all slow and painful deaths
Mine is exactly the same or at least during most situations. If it's very cold/raining or there's a thunderstorm then he comes to sit on my lap without fail.
My cat is really weird about sitting on laps. He acts like he doesn't want to at first (and I guess he doesn't) so you kind of have to wrestle him to stay on you for a few seconds, but once he gets comfortable he's fine. Once that happens if you take him off your lap he'll even jump back on and curl up again.
Like imagine that webm of an aggressive raccoon attacking a popsicle until it licks it and then it just likes it, that's how my cat is with being on laps. I only do that when he's obviously seeking attention of course.
I will pet my kitty cat (and every kitty cat I come across) and it will give me happiness.
>pet cat
>if he nips me I stop
>if he doesn't I keep petting
Simple as
So you're the pet and he's the owner.
dog lovers get so intimidated by cats.
probably because cats run the exact same software as Big Cats.
you need your doormat dog in your safe space.
I have both dogs and cats and I raise both in a manner that lets them understand that it's my house, not theirs.
Cats can be trained just fine if you're not a retard.
Also, I see PLENTY of dog owners who fail to discipline their pet too. It's by no means limited to kitties.
there is a signed life-sized cutout of this guy in the staff bathroom where I work, is he some sort of cesar milan for toxofags? he trains fucking cats? do cat people actually do this shit?
>is he some sort of cesar milan for toxofags?
More or less
>he trains fucking cats?
All those "animal whisper" tv personalities are more training the owners not abuse their pets than they are training the animal.
dont mind me just a dogchad stopping by to laugh at how psychotic cat people are
>I WILL DOMINATE THE CAT
>AND GIVE THEM WEED
>BURRITO OF SUBMISSION
idk what else to expect from a random selection taken from the same group that literally spammed our thread on and off for 2y ears and made "PSAs from catcord"
>don't pet your cat if it doesn't like it
>don't force your cat to sit on your lap if it doesn't want to
It truly is incredible how catfags even have to be told basic shit like this
It's just op, he can't comprehend the wants and desires of others so he forces himself on them ultimately pushing everyone away because he can't understand or care for how they feel.
Luckily for op cats are powerless and dependant on him so they can't escape his abuse.
Dogfags are the same, but the difference is that dogs are much more compliant generally with no sense of personal space, so they love being touched and manhandled by their owners. People who are used to owning dogs then think they can treat cats the same when cats are more skittish and prefer calm interactions.
A Cat will happily tell you when it doesn't want interaction.
I used to get up in my cats face all the time when she was sleeping and while she looked a little annoyed, she was happy to get a headstroke while sunbathing.
what a cat wants is irrelevant
they will learn to love it even if drugs will be used in the conditioning process
tyvm to whoever recommended decarbed weed with fish oil. now my kitty has his own stash and is okay with a lot more of his life (i, however, continue to support isntreal’s destruction)
Based. The kindest thing you can do for an animal is make sure they’re okay with everything.
Fair enough; some kots don't into petting.
my cat loves being pet
dunno what the problem is
>dont force interactions with cat
lmao a stray black cat showed up at my house last september
super friendly, loved being held
he would sit up high on top of a plastic container outside and every morning I would walk up face level with him and he'd press his forehead against mine purring like an engine, every single day
the cat loves being held and comes up to you when it wants to be held, you're not forcing a reaction you're doing exactly what the cat wants
what would be forcing the interaction as the video says is if the cat is sleeping and you try to pick it up, despite it digging it's nails into the ground trying to not be picked up
He doesn't know what consent is, but at least his parents raised him to be socially aware of others and he does it accidentally.
people who allow an animal any freedom or control over them are probably dogfuckers. “muh woofy wifey is muh equal so i let them stop and sniff on walks and decide when she wants my loving” - zoophiles. cats are pets that means they get pet. if they got a problem I’m grabbing them with a blanket and making a cat burrito. one or two of those and they learn to stop resisting. cutting off their nuts before they grow up helps. the only unworkable cat i knew was spayed way too late.
Cathomosexuals really do be thinking about fucking dogs all the time
Dogs don't have much sense of personal space like cats do, I can sneak up on my dog and bomb her with aggressive petting and scratching and she loves it, cats are prey as well as predators so that same thing startles them and can be overwhelming.
Most dogs are nearsighted or were bred to have good vision similar to humans. Cats are farsighted and can't really see that well up close. They rely more on their whiskers and scent to perceive what's close to them. When you sneak up on a cat to pet it, it's going to be more startled than a dog would be in the same scenario.
I am the master of the cat
I pet them when i want
I pick them up at will
I set them where they want
I ignore their yowls
I rub their bellies
And they LOVE it
I will NOT cowtow to an animal
MY wants and needs come first
I am the MASTER
I OWN the cat
They have no free will. They have the privilege to follow mine.
people who try to train their cats are psychopaths. maybe for some super active breed like a bengal it makes, but the generic cat that makes up like 90% of all cats doesn't need training or bathing or any of that nonsense.
t. cat owner for 35 years
Fuck off granny
Looking like a lint trap and smelling like a litterbox for 35 years makes you less of an authority on the subject, not more
I wouldn't train my cat tricks, except for recall, having your cat come when called is nice if not useful.
Also I'm very patient and loose with the treats whenever I introduce something new to my cat, but that isn't training in the sense most people think of it.
Who are you quoting?
Cat Daddy. The homosexual who says you aren't allowed to interact with your own fucking pet.
He's not entirely wrong. There's a balance between laying the law and not antagonizing that any not-so-spergy, not-so-needy person can figure out.
>laying the law
What the FUCK are you talking about. If I feel like petting my cat, he's getting pet. Eimple as.
High strung, Anon? The term falsely implies some sort of punishment, my mistake, and "imposing your will" is more apt, but you needn't get so excited now.
>High strung, Anon? The term falsely implies some sort of punishment, my mistake, and "imposing your will" is more apt, but you needn't get so excited now.
Some people think of their pets more like friends or family members than dolls or toys.
I care what my cat wants, she would only deny me pets of something was up anyway.
For example today she got to explore more of the house, she was feeling overwhelmed and didn't want pet so I let her work stuff out and once she felt more comfortable she let me rub her down as much as I wanted and now she's curled up with me sleeping happy, because she wants to not because I made her.
Forgot picrel
very nice cat
Miss Pancake is an angel, she's getting spayed tomorrow and I'm feeling nervous
i see
its gonna be fine anon your cat will come home and you can snuggle her
Damn, that's a pretty cat.
Not him but it's called training/conditioning anon. I also care about what my cat wants but nobody wants to have an animal around that scratches your face/hisses at you everytime it doesn't want something.
Maybe yours isn't like that but you understand what am I trying to say? Like you MUST carry your cat because there's a dangerous situation and you gotta get it out of the way and then it gets pissed and hisses? No thanks it will either like it or get brainwashed into liking it.
>Equates a cat not wanting pets sometimes to a situation where a cat needs to be kennel trained
Nice goalpost moving. Yes, a cat should be trained to go into a kennel when need be, but we're talking about when a cat does not want to be pet, it gives off clear signs it doesn't want to be touched, and if you don't respect their space, you could be smacked/scratched/bitten for it.
>kennel trained
what are you talking about? are you dyslexic?
and how is that moving goalposts? both carrying and petting involve touching your pet when it doesn't want to and also that was just an example the point was that nobody wants to have a pet around that harms their owner when it doesn't want something and that's why sometimes you gotta imposible your will in order to train it. Doesn't mean we see the cat has a toy without free will.
I pet and handle my cat when I want
If they resist they will be taught futility
I am the cats owner. Their entire life is up to me. From kittenhood they learn to submit. And it works wonderfully.
Depends on the cat. You homosexuals can only think with an all of nothing mindset, cats have different personalities. just say to be mindful and attentive to cat body language.
if this is what your takeaway was from the video then you're retarded
What is even wrong with what he is saying? This guy knows far more about cats than you do. In fact he's preaching to be very respectful of the pet giving it its personal space. Any pet I'd imagine would appreciate this. Problem is people want a living toy for their own selfish self gratification.
The fag's correct. Cats do not like to be touched under most circumstances. Dogs are social, cats less so. You're treating it like a different kind of animal than what it is.
>dogs
>"WHO'S A GOOD BOY, WHO LOVES THEIR PETS?"
>cats
>"Hey, can you rid my house of vermin? Thanks."
See the difference?
Most cats that are properly socialized around humans loved to be petted. The difference is that they will come to you when they want pets. You can't just force pets on a cat if it's not in the mood vs a dog that wants to be pet and get up in your face 24/7.
Thanks for restating what I said.
>hey can you rid my house of vermin
>cat: no i am vermin. the mice will be relocating into your walls to make room. tata.
The virgin dog
>is your friend just because you’re nice, beta grindset
>works for pay like a wagie cuck. pathetic. L
>goes bark bark (ew)
The chad cat
>worship them or you’re an animal abuser
>work? never. based sigma male will not fall for your israeli scam.
>actually tricks you into working for them by misleading you into thinking they did anything
>cute little meow noises :3
Subhuman hands typed this post
but it’s right. my cat made friends with a really big rat and they brought each other food. it was the most redpilled thing on earth.
yes and that’s based. too sissy to take on the cat challenge? worthless bitch. stick to your chihuahua whore!
Toxoplasmosis is like alcoholism.
>Cats do not like to be touched under most circumstances
That's because you are retarded and do not understand cat's social interactions. Do you think a mother cat asks its kitten its permission before picking it up? No.
But the cat understands the mother's intent better than yours, which is why its still sometimes less cooperative. If you understand how to build consistent interactions with cats you can, in time, easily get to a point where you can force affection on them and they will 100% love it and learn to expect it.
The main trick is to start acting like when lions who like each other meets and just rub their faces all over each other for 5 minutes. Start doing that every day, then 3~4 times a day, with one good 20 minutes sesh of facerubbing, and eventually petting aggression almost completely disappear.
Obviously, a cat's personality may make this more complex, but I've raised half a dozen cats from birth to death and they've always turned into absolute lovebugs that spoons me at night.
My cat likes it rough all over, up and down, even upside down, I smash her head between my hands and massage her whole head like I'm rolling dough into a ball, and she sleeps with me every night. And every time I pet her or pick her up I let her know I'm there and I stick my hand in front of her to sniff. She goes in her carrier just fine and has literally never scratched or bit me once.
It's not like it's even much to get your cats consent, she never says no anyways, she loves to be pet.
>Petting aggression
As someone who has fostered well over 30 kittens a cat would only be aggressive if it was either feral or if you had 0 regard or even contempt for it's boundaries as many itt seem to. You are experiencing and having to overcome "petting aggression" because you are creating situations where the cats feels it has to assert itself, there is in fact a better way, where the cat learns to like you without being forced to like you, but you probably wouldn't understand how to be likeable in the first place since it seems like such a foreign idea to half of itt.
>a cat would only be aggressive
Petting aggression is not just being aggressive, its just stimulation buildup into overstimulation, and cats having very low tolerance as a whole depending on the situation. They have also a huge tolerance for ambivalence. Something can be pleasant and annoying at the same time for a cat and then it snaps into one side and they either lay their head down or mock bite your hand. My point is that once you solidify your relationship with a cat by constant bunting this disappears almost entirely.
Obviously I'm not saying walk up to any cat pick it up and do whatever you want to assert your alphaness to it. Cats are naturally skittish animal and very aware you could kill them in a moment. But don't either be distant and "let them approach you when they choose" because that's how you end up with cats that don't give a fuck about their owners.
I'm a kitty consent anon, but if your cat doesn't like being pet you probably do have a under socialized cat that either has some environmental stressors in your house or needs to have it's boundaries pushed a little more frequently. Cats are social in the wild and very affectionate, they are solitary hunters/eaters, but they hang out and cuddle in small troops. Female cats have extra nipples to feed others kittens as a matter of fact.
A cat that is aloof or skittish is probably stressed, that could be something physically wrong, something noisy in the house, being depressed for lack of cat furniture/toys/play mates, it is not a sign of a happy healthy cat whatever the cause.
Cats are individuals, but even a precautious cat will at least be affectionate to their fp several times per day in a relaxed environment.