Would a grizzly bear be able to beat a Utharaptor?

Would a grizzly bear be able to beat a Utharaptor?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i could fix her

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >UUUUUM DINOSAURS DIDN'T USE THEIR SHARP TEETH TO BITE, CHUDS, AND RAPTORS DIDN'T USE THEIR CLAWS TO SCRATCH EITHER, THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED.

    t. literal pedophile israelites

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The troonysaur would be too busy being gay to fight. Remember that’s why they really went extinct, and this moronation still lives in birds. The bear is based and trad and would be taking care of his family instead of fighting giant gay lizards for bragging rights.

    /thread

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't Allosauroids the sauropods specialists? I figured half the reason they disappeared in the late cretaceous was because sauropods became less widespread.
    Meanwhile in America at least it feels like we have at least one genera of ceratopsian to pair with any given tyrannosaur, and it makes sense for tyrannosaurus to become so strong when it's environment was full of armored prey.
    All that being said I have no clue how any of these theropods hunted. Like, what makes a sauropods specialist a sauropod specialist? Were cutting teeth and more robust arms involved?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      allosaurus was is the one we know the most about, and its really strange compared to other theropods like tyrannosaurs, rather than have a killing bite, it skull is made to withstand heavy impacts, along with its mouth being able to open to about 90 degrees, a really strong neck, its theorized it just jammed it head down really fast and shear chunks of flesh off.
      robust arms arent really useful for large prey, because the mouth is the killing tool, robust arms are much more useful if the theropod is going after prey that is smaller than itself, in the case of dilophosaurus that had really maneuverable arms and the holotype had incredibility fricked up arms, and by the fact that allosaurus fossil generally had fricked up arms and feet, which meant that they were fighting a lot of prey with their hands and feet
      it also got into a lot of fights with stegos
      an adult sauropod is basically like a giraffe, most predators arent going to go after them, but tyrannosaurus is fricking huge and it has a bone shattering bite, which is what you need if youre going after sauropods since they can survive getting bodied by them and kill them very quickly

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >it skull is made to withstand heavy impacts
        Honestly, this is like so many other suspected adaptations in dinosaurs. It's probably a misinterpretation of anatomical features and because one paper was written on it now it's holy doctrine forever.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          except they a did a study on its skull structure with engineering, which was to prove an even older theory of it using its neck muscles to kill rather than its jaws, likes sabertooth tigers which also had weak and gaping jaws and a strong neck, but allosaurus doesnt have saber teeth, it has relatively small teeth, along with another study into its neck musculature showing it could move its head really fast and hard vertically, so yeah its a pretty good hypothesis that allosaurus was jamming its head downward on things really hard

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, I'm quite sure a theropod was running around headbanging like a fricking moron to kill sauropods. What the frick happened to critical thinking or skepticism in science? That's what USED to separate it from religion. They're basically the same thing now. We used to have the scientific method. Now someone just publishes something that sounds sciencey and everyone believes it without question or trying to test whether it's even correct.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You're choosing to interpret the information in the goofiest / most moronic possible way (something hipster twitter paleoartists are also extremely guilty of mind you). It mostly indicates that an Allosaurus bite would have been more of a whole head strike, rather than a stationary head using pure bite force. Allosaurus CAN (though of course, that doesn't mean it did) open its mouth considerably wider than other theropods. While this has practical applications in terms of like, actually being able to bite bits off of a large sauropod carcass, I imagine it would also make sense in this context of striking with the head, letting its teeth engage on the prey item during the strike.
              We obviously do have to speculate a lot here, we're trying to infer behaviour from bones. "it has strong neck muscles, small teeth, and a wide gape, what does this say about how it hunted and fed". But it's an animal, not a robot, we can only assume these features evolved because they were useful to it though.
              I think some other theropods like Carnotaurus also have an exceptionally strong neck, but obviously the head shape there is so wildly different from Allosaurus its hard to compare. Like yeah, they both have relatively large (albeit to extremely varying degrees) horns in front of their eyes, but I don't think these served any hunting purpose.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >YOU'RE PUTTING WORDS INTO OUR MOUTHS!!
                I'm literally replying to your own stupid fricking claims. If they look stupid to you that should light up one of the LEDs in your little npc head.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Oh sorry, thought you were interested in discussion you just wanna shitpost.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There is no discussion. I'm telling you you're wrong and you're telling the world you hate science.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >so yeah its a pretty good hypothesis that allosaurus was jamming its head downward on things really hard
            To me (just an interested layman for what it's worth) it seems more likely that it would lunge its neck forward (visualize a snake strike almost) or even upwards at taller prey (like a sauropod) with open jaws, bite down, and then explosively yank the neck backwards, raking off big nasty chunks of flesh and maybe even scraping bone, depending on where it landed a bite.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Emperor's New Clothes perspective. Obviously that's what it did. But that's not moronic enough to write a paper about, so we have to get stuck with midwit redditors trying to convince everyone of shit that's obviously wrong.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              that works for dead flesh, but that doesnt explain why its skull is that way, like most raptors today feed like that today, hold down meat with the legs, bite down on something and pull upwards, but it doesnt explain why its skull is weird, it should have a stronger bite, its mouth shouldnt be able to open that wide, its teeth should be larger, thats why i said its really weird
              i also feel like ripping flesh when the animal is alive where skin involved should be a lot harder to do because i would assume a sauropod has thick skin, like an elephant, and wouldnt just a stronger bite and larger teeth be better, because you just bite down and the teeth would be able to dig even deeper and pull flesh off easier when using the whole body to pull it off

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >1v1
    I'd assume that a Grizzly would go for a pin, which means that if it can grapple the neck & shoulders then the Raptor would be grounded; however, if the Raptor manages to flank the Bear or do enough damage with its legs in the pin then the Bear could easily be evicerated or exsanguinate. Honestly? It's a tossup. They both are equal sized megapredators that dominated their respective ecosystems. It'd be fun to watch, but I highly doubt one would always win over the other.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If the bear tries to do it’s stand up grapple maneuver, the raptor is going to be in absolute ideal spot to kick the bear in the stomach a la cassowary or the ostrich that almost killed Johnny Cash. If that foot long claw hits the bears stomach, it is going to be disemboweled.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If the bear tries to do it’s stand up grapple maneuver, the raptor is going to be in absolute ideal spot to kick the bear in the stomach a la cassowary or the ostrich that almost killed Johnny Cash. If that foot long claw hits the bears stomach, it is going to be disemboweled.

      I'm honestly going with tossup too, maybe slightly favoring bear. if the bear manages to pin the raptor to the ground or gets a good enough swipe in to break a leg/jawbone then the Raptor gets rekt. it doesn't look like much but

      that little b***hslap at around 8 secs carries enough force to take your head off. that said getting the raptor on its back could potentially work in the raptors favor for the same reason you don't pin a feline that way (you get gutted by razor feet).

      do we know if Utahraptor had a strong enough bite force to actually get through the bears hide? if it turns into a face biting match then bear might again have an advantage. idk if smaller dromaeosaurs bit each others faces to fight like T-Rex did.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What makes you think Utahraptor is some pathetic pushover who is incapable of producing more than a meek punch? You think that gay little swipe is lethal, wait until you see what happens when a foot long knife is jabbed into your body by legs with muscles more powerful than anything on a bears body. A bear is just not equipped to deal with the arsenal of weapons possessed by dinosaurs. No mammal is.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          why are you assuming bears are these big lumbering dumbasses that have no means of defense besides "big and mean"?

          >wait until you see what happens when a foot long knife is jabbed into your body

          and how exactly is said knife getting stabbed into said body? again, if the bear pins the fricker down by the head it can't really do much besides flail unless the bear is moronic and lets it get on its back (at which point bear catches claws to face/chest/wherever and gets rekt). if raptor gets a free ambush strike from behind (like they're thought to do as ambush hunters), then of course it fricking wins because that's its entire strength. which brings me to another point I haven't seen brought up yet in this hypothetical 1v1
          >endurance
          bears will literally fight each other like in that webm for a good hour at a time, often sustaining quite a bit of damage in the process (at least the loser does). assuming neither animal pussies out (unlikely unless they're both tossed in a cage and in 100% no-holds barred 1v1 square the frick up mode) then it really is gonna depend on how the fight opens up. if bear can pin the raptor and clamp down somewhere on its back/head then said raptor doesn't really have the leverage to land a solid kick without risking fricking itself up as well. not sure on how long the bear needs to keep it pinned until it tires, however.

          this fight wouldn't really have a clear winner if both sides really wanted the other dead.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >T-rex brainlessly evolved into a walking giant mouth with no arms that fed on brainless fern grazing giant sauropods.
    There has never been a Tyrannosaurus rex bone found in the same formation as a sauropod bone. Tyrannosaurus rex evolved to hunt and kill Triceratops, which we have piles of evidence of it doing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >There has never been a Tyrannosaurus rex bone found in the same formation as a sauropod bone.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojo_Alamo_Formation

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        There’s never been a Tyrannosaurus rex bone found in Ojo Alamos lol. Only dubious material tentatively referred to Tyrannosaurus sp. My point stands, rex rarely if ever encountered sauropods and was evolved to kill armed prey, like Triceratops.

        Did you actually think I wasn’t aware of Alamosaurus? How arrogant and stupid are you?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's not only Tyrannosaurus, it's T. rex. And the only reason it's tentative is due to the nature of bones recovered from the formation.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, idiot, the literature consistently refers to it as Tyrannisaurus sp., and a popsci meme back a few years ago referred it as a new species of Tyrannosaurus. I used “Tyrannosaurus rex” specifically because I suspected some midwit contrarian moron to try and cite Alamosaurus.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >No, idiot, the literature consistently refers to it as Tyrannisaurus sp.

              >reading the literature
              >understanding the literature
              >these are the same!
              The eternal midwit cry.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, unless you think there were TWO species of Tyrannosaurus running around the American west during the Maastrichtian, which would make you certifiably moronic.

                You can guess all you want about the specific affinities of a couple random large theropod bones from Texas. Tyrannosaurus rex did not evolve to kill Sauropods and you know it. You lose!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, unless you think there were TWO species of Tyrannosaurus running around the American west during the Maastrichtian, which would make you certifiably moronic.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    holy reddit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I stopped seeing reddit everywhere when I got off that site anon

      you should try it too

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    paleoschizo b seething

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you are not cheering for a mammal you are not just a traitor of your own race but of your whole superfamily. Mammals must conquer non-mammals!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Frick mammals. Everything on this planet has gone to shit since mammals took over.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >dinogay is a nihilist troony
        yep

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You mean a realist. troony shit is a mammal obsession.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You sure about that? Birds are some of the few higher lifeforms that can change their sex. Their primitive orifices also make males and females much closer so they're basically living in a troony dream world, and are some of the most prolifically homosexual things above water.

            Mammals are mostly trad families or stacy-railing gigachads that frick numerous b***hes but birdland is full of literal gay shit and all of their sex is technically anal.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Birds aren't reptiles, stupid.

              >https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40016817
              >Tim told me that in rare cases, after the loss of the suppressing oestrogen hormones, the undeveloped right ovary in the duck begins to develop in response to male genes on the Z chromosome.
              >This has been found through dissection and various experiments to remove the ovaries of living birds. Without restricting female hormones, the cells of the right side vestigial ovary masculinise, and can develop into a testis. This sperm has even been shown to be functional and can lead to the successful fertilisation of eggs.
              inb4 birdtroony cope

              I know more about this than you do. I even know how to perform the surgery in roosters, but it's basically pointless.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're being baited by morons
                Sexual dimorphism is far more common in birds, and birds are known for an unusually high rate of heterosexual monogamy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >birds aren't reptiles
                Yes they are. They can even still reproduce as lesbians and there are more hard gay birds out there than there are non-human mammals

                Frick, even humans aren't naturally exclusively gay. It's artificial culture. They're, at worst, bisexual by accident, but the hard gay rate in things like black swans is absurd. Birds are LGBTQ's dream animals and what every brainwashed gaylord dreams of reincarnating as.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40016817
            >Tim told me that in rare cases, after the loss of the suppressing oestrogen hormones, the undeveloped right ovary in the duck begins to develop in response to male genes on the Z chromosome.
            >This has been found through dissection and various experiments to remove the ovaries of living birds. Without restricting female hormones, the cells of the right side vestigial ovary masculinise, and can develop into a testis. This sperm has even been shown to be functional and can lead to the successful fertilisation of eggs.
            inb4 birdtroony cope

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Would a grizzly bear be able to beat a Utharaptor?
    lol no

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It may be larger but still suffer from the weakness of hollow bones and a lower weight than what would be normal for a mammal of the same size.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the weakness of hollow bones
      how many more times is reddit gonna say this?
      you think utahraptors were ripping astrodons apart but would shatter every bone in their body like that guy from spongebob and lose to a fricking bear....? an astrodon would cut a bear in half with one whip of its tail

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    dinos in 160 million years accomplished nothing and all died. In the short term the mammals produced humans who rule the world.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      and numerous mammals could easily evolve to equal us in <10 million years
      >every other primate
      >genetically engineered dogs
      >raccoons
      >even fricking rodents

      what do dinosaurs have? evolutionary dead ends that were never any better than a large wolf or tiger, really.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A bear would rape that fragile chicken. anyone who says otherwise has been brainwashed by israeli propaganda.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why do gays and pedos always ruin potentially good threads
    have a nice day now

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anything that's of fascination or wonder to White Europeans such as dinosaurs or space exploration is fervently hated by israelites/lefties/etc.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >@4433272
    >@4434867

    [...]

    tourist
    might as well call him a frogposter, fricking pedos

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it would mogg it
    Just like a elephant btfo a t Rex

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What's the biggest, strongest dinosaur a mastodon could defeat?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest one would get btfo

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I guess we are only talking about carnivore dinosaurs, since vegetarian animals live in peace and harmony with each other due to their higher intelligence and ethics and their lack of "ethnic" behaviour.
      I would say everything up to Allosaurus tier (3tons, ~3-4 times less than a Mastodon) would get shrekt.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Take into account how much damage a dinosaur can do vs something like a lion. Lions and most modern predators suffocate the prey. An allosaur could cut an elephant's trunk off in one swipe with its huge talons, leap right up onto its back. Dinosaurs were taking on much more formidable prey than elephants. Elephants have no tail, no armor, which is fine when the worst thing you'll ever face is a tiger or smilodon or something but an allosaurus would probably tear any elephant that's ever lived to fricking pieces.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A mammoth could beat anything smaller than an allosaurus, however I think it's more of a bellcurve. If a pack of raptors decided to dogpile an elephant I see no way of it defending itself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Good way of looking at it. I had the same thoughts.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people get so mad over these hypotheticals?

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Oh well, it was a good thread while it lasted but now ~~*pedophiles*~~ are here to derail it.
    Thanks, come again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day election tourist.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >election tourist
      You will be cooked and eaten.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >thread still up
    chicken rapists just don't give up

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Calling monstergirls furry is a lame old furgay tactic. Monstergirls are not furries, and no amount of repetition will make it so. All it does is make you look moronic.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    whatever you say, degen

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day for even starting this whole argument with that gay comic.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    4432451
    4432455
    If you're not attracted to biologically mature female humans you're a pedophile/sodomite as far as I'm concerned.
    Like, we were having a fun discussion about these animals then some literal troon freak who jerks off to animals posts some furgay comic. Cool. KYS, dont @me

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >@4432448
    Thanks for the (You)s
    have a nice day, furshit comic poster.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I know suicide has probably been on your mind a lot lately and that's okay. I hope these (you)s help get you through this rough time in your life.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No matter how hard you furries try to muddy the waters, monstergirls will never be furry. Also, anime website.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        chinkmoot should already bring Wauf back to it's roots and add a dedicated e-girl board, like the good old times

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That would make newbies seethe so hard lol.
          Always remember: flat is justice.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >@4432436
    go jerk off to a dog, pedo

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >so absolutely mind broken all he can think about is beastiality
      Might be time to take a quick break from the internet anon, be sure to drink some water

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >scale gays coping this hard
    Lol lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >scale gays
      Why are you splitting hairs? There's furgays and normal people and you're the only one posting furshit. Eat lead.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine seething so hard over mammal superiority you can't even type a coherent response

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >@4432448
        Thanks for the (You)s
        have a nice day, furshit comic poster.

        4432451
        4432455
        If you're not attracted to biologically mature female humans you're a pedophile/sodomite as far as I'm concerned.
        Like, we were having a fun discussion about these animals then some literal troon freak who jerks off to animals posts some furgay comic. Cool. KYS, dont @me

        >on Wauf
        >dosen't know what killing bites is
        So this is the power of the lizard brain

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >killing bites
          Looks gay but I'll give you that at least it's not furshit.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            monstergirl, furry, same degenerate shit

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Nope, but nice job outing yourself as a furry.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              No it's not.

              Nope, but nice job outing yourself as a furry.

              NTA.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/7TGUqfY.jpg

            Killing bites
            [...]
            Yup

            What does "killing bites" even mean?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The one with the sharpest fangs... gets BTFO by a rabbit, dog, or goat.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Killing bites is the friends we got killed along the way

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Idk it's clearly some animalfricker/troony comic that should simply be disregarded.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon it's literally just a dumb "which animal would win in a fight" meme manga complete with multiple pages of animal """"facts"""". Calm down.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like tierzoo but somehow even gayer and more trans.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                *glub*

                DID SOMEONE SAY TARZOO!?!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >anon became so moronic that he can only communicate using buzzwords and chanspeak
                lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sauc pls

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Killing bites

        Lion v raptor?

        Yup

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lion v raptor?

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol a utahraptor would probably just snatch a bear's face off without the bear even knowing what happened

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not a chance. A Utahraptor talon is as big as the bear's head.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Don't think too hard about the relationship between hitler, his dog, and the lack of relationships he had with women.

    Behind every great crusade is a great heretic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don't think too hard about that fact that the nazis literally created the animal rights and environmental movement while the communists were busy turning China into a desert and draining the Aral Sea.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Well yeah, that kind of person isn't exempt from really loving animals. Especially more than people.
        >you remind me of an elite banker somewhat. same nose. surgery, without anesthesia!
        >oh a dog? hurting them is verboten.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >you remind me of an elite banker somewhat. same nose. surgery, without anesthesia!
          lolwut

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >surgery, without anesthesia!
          I'd admit to doing that too if you threatened to rupture my testicles

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You never heard of Eva Braun?

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's not a Utharaptor.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >a fricking oversized chicken
    even a silverback gorilla can handle that, let alone a grizzly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A gorilla can't even beat a 200 lb leopard

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but a leopard would also frick up a big dumb bird

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If they actually looked like that then I don't think any bear could beat that.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Utha
    why do bongs consistently spell this wrong? It's not that hard.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    whoever wins, we lose

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What the hell makes you Black folk think any bear stands a chance?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I meant to reply to

      It’s a meme, you dip.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      More agile

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Is it? A bear is cumbersome, but I bet you'd have to be pretty fleet-of-foot to be able to battle and weave and dodge triceratops horns and shit. A rex strike would probably be lighting fast like a crocodile.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >that scene from valley of gwangi where the elephant gets wrekt
      always made me seethe as a kid. theres no way a bull elephant wouldnt body the shit out of a t rex. those mother frickers are pure testosterone and aggression.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Tyrannosaurus rex evolved to hunt animals that were as large and better armed than bull elephants. An elephant has never encountered an animal larger than it is. It will have no clue what to do.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, he didn't know what to do, so he bum-rushed like an idiot and died.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What else is an elephant going to do? Aikido?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not get run over by a train like an idiot?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You know about him. No one knows about you. He still lives. You don't even exist.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not get run over by a train like an idiot?

              He accomplished his goal

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            holy crap, what? that's some ridiculous stopping power

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >implying
          bull elephants will charge at anything coming at them. from people, to other elephants, to even fricking cars and trains. it doesnt give a rat frick what's rushing towards it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I'm sure Tyrannosaurus rex has never had to deal with charging prey before. Evolution definitely hasn't equipped him for this specific scenario lol.

            [...]
            He accomplished his goal

            Actually, he died lol

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        an elephant is just a more soi triceratops, elephantgays are absolutely delusional

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What if the bear has access to WW2 era artilery piece? How does that changes the matchup?

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is actually a job for Dakotaraptor.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dakotaraptor is most likely a chimera fossil and probably none of its constituent pieces will be a large bodied dromaeosaur

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I hope it's real, he's my favorite dino.

    • 1 year ago
      Sage

      The one that is way less robust than Utah?It's like sending a marathonist to fight someone you think the heavyweight boxer won't neat.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Utahraptor is weak from nearly two decades of sitting around chit-chatting with T-Rex and Dromiceiomimus.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    were its bones actually hollow though? or is that bird = dinosaur le heckin sciencegay bullshit?
    if it had hollow bones, it really doesn't stand a chance against the kodiaks or polar bears. i doubt it has the physical power of like a similar sized crocodile or mammal.

    also, the "that's not what the claws were used for" is bullshit too. an animal doesn't think tactically in combat. they swing their weapons and try to kill what they're fighting before they get too damaged because damage could lead to them dying.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >also, the "that's not what the claws were used for" is bullshit too. an animal doesn't think tactically in combat. they swing their weapons and try to kill what they're fighting before they get too damaged because damage could lead to them dying.
      It's not 'The animal meticulously thought about using its available weapons for this precise strategy'.
      It's 'The claws were literally incapable of slashing through flesh, moron'.
      Piercing, sure. But disemboweling with them is a fantasy.
      As should be obvious to anyone whose brain isn't entirely smooth. The biomechanics of a giant, sickle-shaped claw on a toe don't exactly scream 'MAXIMUM POWER!'.
      Pic related. That's the damage tiger claws do. While smaller, they're also in a biomechanically more convenient position. That's against unprotected human skin, not scaly ornithischians ten to a hundred times the weight of a human.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This pic, I mean.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          if you seriously believe that

          https://i.imgur.com/0i8gY5K.jpg

          Utaraptor had proportionately the 2nd smallest and least curved sickle talon among eudromeosaurs after Adasaurus. It was most likely impractical for restraining prey and would most likely be used only for slashing and maiming.

          cannot slash, i would ask you to hop in the pen with an ostrich, emu, or cassowary.
          just because a claw isn't bladed like a knife, doesn't mean it can't slash. the cassowary's claw has a flat edge on the bottom side, and it will still tear your stomach open.

          johnny cash was once cut open by an emu or ostrich, it spilled his guts out and he almost died.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I would legitimately rather be stuck in a cage with a grizzly than a cassowary, those things are absolutely fricked

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/fJvHvHV.jpg

        This pic, I mean.

        >thinks even big cat claws can’t slash human skin
        Kek. Someone obviously hasn’t seen the video of a jaguar barely grazing a woman’s arm and cutting it so much the flesh popcorns out. Just because those lacerations aren’t particularly bad doesn’t mean it’s not capable of doing far worse damage, there’s pictures of fricking rhinos with more severe wounds from over ambitious tigers than that

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      hollow bones doesnt actually mean anything, only midwits think that. despite being hollow a lot of the time that meant that theyre denser than other animals of a similar size because you need stiff and strong bones to actually fly, IF they kept their bone density relative to their body weight, their bones would be much stronger than a grizzly of equal weight

      https://i.imgur.com/fJvHvHV.jpg

      This pic, I mean.

      and tiger claws arent meant for slashing as they are RETRACTABLE, meaning they only come out when the tiger is actually grabbing something

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >cries about /misc/
    >wants to rape animals

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Checked, its disgusting how many animal frickers are on this board

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nah there's a lot of us. Some /misc/gays go after disney for normalizing furshit with anthro characters in films, but 10 year old me was fantasizing about those JP raptors being sex crazed without any males around. I'm pretty sure some humans are just hard wired to be based as frick and want dangerous predatory mates.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >hollow bones
    LMAO

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >*leaps 50 feet in the air and lands on you driving foot-long talons inside*

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >leaps 50 feet in the air because it's a frickig bird with hollow bones
        >gets snapped in half by a baseball bat

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Go up to an ostrich with a baseball bat and see what happens.
          Fricking moron, why did you even post? Porous bones =/= weak, if anything they'd break less easily and give large animals like utahraptor seemingly unnatural acrobatic capability.
          Fricking dilate.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Go up to an ostrich with- ACK!!!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >It's over

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            o-ostrich bros
            its over

  44. 1 year ago
    Irish :/

    Yes, if they got up in close quarters with each other the bear would probably wrestle the raptor to the ground and tear it apart. The bear would probably be maimed in the process, though. If the raptor ambushed the bear, it could kill it pretty quickly. Those jaws are meaner than any modern land predators, bar some big crocs.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no, a raptor this big would only lose to an elephant

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I bet it could take on an elephant 1 on 1 if it got in its back

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Grizzly is just too bulky, fat and fluffy IMO.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Half of you c**ts are completely, embarrassingly wrong in your opinion about this.

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol at those b***h slaps.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        and the guy pushing his chest like back off dude

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of bear is that?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but imagine two gigantic clawed legs slashing its torso while theyre locked into biting each other... guts spilling all over from one good slash.
      No brainer here, utahraptor wins unless pinned so its a 50/50

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what if we make the bear venomous to make it a fair fight?

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Utahraptors have no answer to the bear's grappling. Utah gets a kick in then gets ripped to shreds by the bear.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure that a grizzly bear could beat a t rex, no way a puny raptor could beat it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >agile
      >grizzly
      What? Sure they're fast, and strong, but when you're 700+ lbs with nothing to worry about short of a guy with a high powered gun and a clear shot, they're not agile. They don't need to be.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        polar bears have been seen picking fights with orcas and belugas man, bears in general are pretty underestimated because everyone sees them as cute and dumb.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          holy shit, hadn't seen part 3 yet

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The T-rex's tail vertebra look like little bears

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/5DcA9Ph.jpg

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I meant to reply to

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Literal Disney propaganda.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      But a Utahraptor is more agile and cunning than slow Tyrannosaurus. It's hard to tell really.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A T. rex would just have to get it's jaws on the bear ONCE and the bear is dead

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is grizzly bear the name of my dick?

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sure why not and vice versa

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >cold blooded lizard vs warm blooded beast

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No because the Utahraptor is way larger, more athletic and used to hunt preys that were way more dangerous than a grizzly bear.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >a fricking chicken
      lmfao dinocucks

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It may win but would be crippled beyond belief, birds/dinos are mostly glass cannons with low stamina and could never stand up to a more sturdily built mammal of comparable size and power with their frail bones and light weight.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen Eagles survived getting hit by cars unscathed. And Utahraptor was much, much more robust than its smaller dromaeosaur cousins

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/wR1zhON.jpg

          Mammaltard is going to get disembowled with a single kick by the larger animal lol.

          The perfect size.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/wR1zhON.jpg

          Mammaltard is going to get disembowled with a single kick by the larger animal lol.

          If one of these guys forced you on your back and stepped on your chest, you really couldn’t stop it from doing whatever weird thing it wanted to do next, huh?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this. pound for pound a pissed off adult male grizzly could and would body that fricker if cornered. they're basically built to wrestle and pin shit down. see webm related. and they're just playing.

        https://i.imgur.com/6jea0GE.gif

        >grizzly bear
        >weighing over a ton

        they can reach up to 1200lbs, averaging 700-900 for a male.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Mammaltard is going to get disembowled with a single kick by the larger animal lol.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Problem is that Grizzlies outweigh utahraptors by a lot. Utahraptor got to be roughly around 600 pounds.

            To give it credit, it was thought to reach pretty much twice that in older studies, and hey we don't really have much fossil material of it published yet(?) and not the first time some dinosaurs have made massive leaps in possible weight. If it was the older weight I'd say 50/50 cause Utah was built like a truck compared to all dromaeosaurs.

            But from what I know, Utah gonna get rekt.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Grizzlies outweigh utahraptors by a lot
              that raptor would leap through the air and drive its foot into that bear, there would be nothing a bear could do if the raptor wanted it dead

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This

            dromaeosaurs were known to kill animals much larger and heavier then they were. Probably just claw his way up the side of the bear and spill winnie the pooh guts all over.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >...dromaeosaurs were known to kill animals much larger and heavier then they were.
              So are wolves, but that doesn't mean one could go one-on-one with a grizzly. Also, they were killing dinosaurs, which might have been relatively easy to kill (weak bones, highly stressed metabolisms like birds, maybe). Terror birds seem to have been fricked as soon as modern mammal carnivores started competing with them, so that's one data point indicating that therapods aren't as fearsome as equivalent mammals (but then again, terror birds had to go through a weird evolutionary pathway, so maybe the original version was superior).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A bear would rape that fragile chicken. anyone who says otherwise has been brainwashed by israeli propaganda.

                >they were killing dinosaurs, which might have been relatively easy to kill (weak bones, highly stressed metabolisms
                ??? what ?
                again, porous bones =/= weak bones
                the bones would be a lot more scry and pliable, like a young child's bones which have a lot more give vs an adult's bones which are more ridged and brittle
                also terror birds were birds, dinosaurs had arms and a tail
                mammalBlack folk are honestly fricking pathetic
                dinosaurs lived objectively more violent lives than modern day animals
                dinosaur bones are almost always covered in scratches and breaks (that healed), a crocodile or bird can get its leg bit off and be perfectly fine, if a lion fractures its leg it's fricking over
                again, all these non-arguments just seem politically motivated, like rather than having the discussion, there is an ulterior motive to shitposting and derailing the thread that has nothing to do with bears or dinosaurs
                go diddle a kid, you fricking freaks

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A utaraptor talon is bigger than a bear's head. How on Earth are you comparing them to wolves right now. Can wolves leap 10x their height? Can a bear even jump at all?
                The dinosaur wins and I truly don't see how the bear could. Even if the raptor wasn't hunting the bear and they just ran into each other and the bear wanted the raptor dead, the raptor could just leave and there would be nothing the bear could do. Bears would just be walking picnics to predators back in the times of dinosaurs.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Terror birds were ABSOLUTELY the cucked version of theropods, don't even "maybe"ize this point.
                It's like if sneks developed the ability to walk again by reusing some strange genetic skin cancer mutation that allows them to walk on mole-stalks.
                That is how it was with terror birds. They didn't have teeth or arms. In general they were tiny, as birds evolved from cousins of dinosaurs with names like "microraptor", which should tell you everything you need to know.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >muh weight
            its still a fricking 600 lb animal thats gonna be kicking a 95 mph claw that is 9.5 inches. their is no way the bear doesnt just keel over

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              probably kicking it repeatedly, and extremely rapidly.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Don't bears have layers of hardened fat to prevent being gutted?

              Though tigers do kill them regularly

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A dinosaur is just a whole different beast than a tiger or bear. It has a crocodile head, swords on its hands and feet and can leap like 30 feet into the air. A utahraptor could just leap up onto an elephant's back and stick its nails in its spine, a bear would be absolutely fricked.
                There's a reason why dinosaurs were basically dragons covered in armor and spikes and scutes.
                Look at an iguanodon. Relatively low power-level as far as dinosaurs go, but it could defend itself from a raptor attack. It has arms with spikes on its hands as weapons, and a gigantic tail swinging around like a giant crowbar to defend its flanks.
                I'm just imagining how a bear v utahraptor fight would go down.
                The raptor would either ambush the bear in which case it would be over before it began.
                Or if the bear saw the raptor coming, the bear will probably stand on its hind legs and try to intimidate the other animal, or maybe do some mock charges at it, and then the raptor will cover the distance between them in one jump and stick its talons 2 feet deep right into the bears chest or back, I don't see another way this could go.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >get disembowled with a single kick by the larger animal
            That's not what the fricking claw was for dipshit. Raptor Prey restraint theory is the overwhelmingly favored view on the usage of the sickle claw.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >animals only use organs for 'what they're for'
              >they never use organs for things they can do even if it's not 'what they're for'
              based moron posting

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                predatory animals always minimize risk and would never do something stupid for cool points

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe for 30 lb velociraptor, not huge macropredators like Utahraptor. Whatever the frick you think you know about raptor functional morphology prob doesn't apply to Utahraptor

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >everyone now thinks this meaning it must have been true!
              >even though previously everyone also thought the other thing I'm speaking against!
              Reality doesn't work the way you seem to think it does. And I'm not talking about the minutiae of how raptors used their claws, "dipshit".

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Utaraptor had proportionately the 2nd smallest and least curved sickle talon among eudromeosaurs after Adasaurus. It was most likely impractical for restraining prey and would most likely be used only for slashing and maiming.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What a dumb fricking statement. It was for kicking. Birds kick. Raptors leapt onto prey driving the claws in. Why the frick do you think they were so good at jumping and had literal wings on their arms for?
              Let me guess, t-rex was a scavenger of nuts and berries and didn't eat meat.
              Don't forget to miss your dilation FFS.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That's a frickin ugly ass Utah depiction.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >that awkward leaning forward

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            that's nothing. i could hip toss that b***h by the neck

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >raptorgays forgetting how much aggression mammals can pack
            anon we live in a world where fricking badgers and wolverines can scare the frick out of lions and bears. Im more than willing to believe an adult grizzly could destroy a raptor on that merit alone. I mean frick, ever seen those videos of hippos and elephants bodying crocodiles? you underestimate your fellow warm bloods.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              And what makes you think that the animal that lived an objectively more violent life wouldn't be just as aggressive? Dromaeosaurids were also endothermic, so maybe you should actually try to understand that word before you say anything even more stupid.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >over a ton

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I need this video with UFC commentators dubbed over it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            amen

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >pound for pound
          Using that logic a bear would be curbstomped by every single mustelid in existence.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            A wolf-sized sable could probably curbstomp a bear.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, scaled up? yeah I'm with that other anon. a timberwolf sized marten would likely body the average bear. hell, wolverines chase off bears frequently.

            webm unrelated.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They are in real life, Wolverines have confirmed kills against polar bears and grizzlies by going for the throat.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Nonsense. Hunters are the biggest bullshitters out of anyone. Remember that fella who said he killed a bear by biting its neck then hitting it with a stick? KEEEKKKK.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. Pine martens already frick up bears frequently so yeah, a bear-sized marten vs a bear, the bear stands no chance

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Lil homie doing BJJ

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why aren't more people just going around killing fricking dogs? I'm about tired of their shit.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Iguanodon easily kills both of them.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >would a mammal that can weigh over a ton beat a hollow boned inferior dinosaur

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >grizzly bear
      >weighing over a ton

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this. pound for pound a pissed off adult male grizzly could and would body that fricker if cornered. they're basically built to wrestle and pin shit down. see webm related. and they're just playing.

      [...]
      they can reach up to 1200lbs, averaging 700-900 for a male.

      A ton is 2000lbs chief

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      an utharaptor can also weigh as much you moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Utahraptor is tiger sized.

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no. nothing would.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >a fricking bird
    a particularly large baboon would tear it in half

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      seethe

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, let's see how it does when it can't fly.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Alright, also make it bigger than the bear with swords on its hands and legs and can jump 3x the bear's height and commonly preyed on animals far more formidable than any fricking bear.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >see the
        the what? all i see is a seagull attacking a bear

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Freedom to shit in the forest: revoked

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do we actually see the eye being poked out? That would be horrible, fricking hell.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        USA vs USSR during the 60s

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Smfh why are birds such pussies

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you call a Utahraptor a "bird" you also need to call a whale a "monkey", because the genetic distance is about the same, +20 million years on the dino side.

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