The pet and animal community.
Why shouldn't we do it
This sort of question has always seemed kind of dumb to me. Why bother trying to raise the intelligence of something that's not exactly that smart when you could raise the intelligence of something that's already pretty high up there like say, other apes, cetaceans, elephants, or corvids?
because it's funny
just seems like a waste of time, effort, and manpower to me.
No, you. Dog funny
I doubt this would work but yes it should be tried
heavy, heavy doubt though. There are several breeds bred for intelligence, at least ability to learn tricks, which is our only decent way of measuring that, and I don't see any of them being any smarter than wolves. They are just more obedient.
>MS Electrical Engineering
This guy clearly knows a lot about dogs.
I'm not against the general idea.
My concern is the hardware.
Animals with human IQ would get interested in many abstract concepts and eager to express themselves.
they'd have no mouth to produce various sounds when they understand languages.
they'd have no sensitive fingers when they want to write or draw valuable ideas.
Giving intelligence without appropriate bodies can considerably lower their QOL.
Dogs will simply invent a new communication method.
Dogs are already capable of word recognition, and they don’t seem to mind not communicating through words. I suspect that a dog raised to human intelligence would specialize in body language and possibly calligraphy or something.
I’ll allow it under one condition. None mate with members of similar ancestry, and also please don’t give pugs intelligence, they already know they’re suffering but if they knew who made them suffer, I’d never forgive humanity.
The chinese would be 100% on board. They wouldn't do any of the work though, they'd just steal a few litters once it was done and then mass farm them
We struggle making a dog that can live longer than wolves, I'm dubious of their ability.
Should be done with parrots not dogs
parrots are already there
well it would prove that low intelligence is absolutely hereditary while high intelligence mostly isn't. That should be fun.
If it succeeds in spite of that fairly obvious problem, it will next prove that high intelligence is a handicap to fecundity and longevity. Which should also be fun.
but we already know these things from humans. Only the very uninformed think we need to prove it again with some other species. It's usually the fairly stupid that think stupidity isn't a survival trait and that high intelligence is an improvement over a condition of relative happiness through ignorance and delusion.
>I am very smart that's why I'm miserable and haven't been able to reproduce
Choosing not to is not the same as being unable to
Highly intelligent people consistently score higher on appearance and attractiveness than you.
they choose not to reproduce as often or as soon as dumb people. This is partly because dumb people don't generally have a choice. Even if they know about birth control they're not going to think to use it. Or they have a culture that discourages it.
>100 generations of inbreeding
creating an animal that could be criminally liable but would have a most a tenuous grasp on language would be cruel in the world we live in.
It wouldn't be criminally liable tho.
Intelligent dogs would no longer be suitable as pets because now when you're walking around pantsless at home and your dog sees you you can know with 100% certainty that it's silently judging you.
The dog himself is naked tho.
of all things, why the fuck dogs
they are haram
Speaking as a Muslim, learn about your religion more, brother.
We totally should.
It seems cruel to do that do an animal that we couldn't even properly communicate with
At least do it to animals like apes or monkeys who actually could speak if they had the brainpower
Apes in general are cruel and dangerous. I'd prefer a smart obedient doggo that can do jobs for me.
smart and obedient are mutually antagonistic traits
Get off the computer balto
Because we would be creating existential suffering which should be avoided
suffering is inherent as long as ignorance is present
you mean we should do artificial selection for humans to make them smarter
well, let me think --YES OF FUCKING COURSE
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