Why do people freak out so much about disciplining dogs by hitting them?

Im not talking hard. Not anywhere near enough to hurt them. Just to make a point so the dog doesn’t do whatever bad behaviour ever again.

Example: dog jumps on people constantly. Modern faggy wisdom is you do all kinds of complicated shit and reward them for doing that instead to condition them to have the urge to do that each time they would consider jumping. This is extremely time consuming and wont even work sometimes. It also doesn’t solve the problem, the dog just learned to do something else in that one context and likely at home only.
If you lightly hit them just enough to make it disappointed but not hurt them, it will not do it again full stop. Then you can back to loving your dog and making it happy.

People treat dogs like humans these days. They cant separate abuse and discipline.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are literally guides on how to train a dog without hitting them made by animal shelters, idk why you'd think it's nessecary? It's not and it's cruel. You are confusing FEAR with obedience. Would you want someone to hit you or choke you when you did something you weren't "supposed to" (but you didn't nessecarily know better)?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you mean the same shelters that claim pitbulls are nanny dogs?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never said they're perfect, but I'd argue it's worth a shot. There are also videos online on how to train dogs as well. If you are so willing to hit a dog, much less any animal, then you should at least try the other options before you decide it's the best/only option

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot to put the image, here is an example

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Clicker training does not work worth a damn on any dog with something resembling a mind. It basically works on the barely aware highly food motivated retards like that retarded lapdog, and turbo-cucks like border collies. If you tried this on any difficult and intelligent breed like a malinois and ever removed the treat from the click they would get fed up quickly unless you had already dominated them into cuck mode where they are just glad you are their master and are spending time with them. You would also run the risk of them only obeying if you could bribe them, or worse, them disobeying to get more attention and bribes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's only an option, never said it was the only one. I'm just saying there are other things to try and explore besides hitting an animal

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correction is also an option though. Its all options. There are so many tools to use why limit yourself?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this, its frustrating with a smart dog when they disobey more as you train them more and stupid shit like clickers don't work... and why people resort to hitting and choking and yanking, because violence is how our species naturally establishes the social order and doing so when a "subordinate" frustrates us feels extremely good. but dogs don't see you that way and never will, that's not how they think, they aren't people. they are more like autistic people where if you beat their ass they will respect dear old dad, but actually resent him, and shoot up the school for no apparent reason.

          you dont need it, there are better aversives that don't hurt your dog and make them afraid of people and leave them still able to be a dog. most of the time just annoying them a bit is as powerful as hurting. when wolves train each other they use mild but very annoying subversives, like firmly grabbing the other wolves entire fucking head with their muzzle. dogs hate being annoyed. most people use e-collars set very low or even to vibrate these days and they are extremely effective that way.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it doesn't work on dogs because it just doesn't ok
            False, it very clearly works on dogs and it works on autistic people too.

            Wolves will also frequently bite each other to enforce boundaries.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shouting, yelling, clapping, shoving, grabbing, body-blocking, and attention deprivation are all punishments that work on 99.9% of dogs without hurting them and are 1:1 with how dogs treat each other. you will not hurt your relationship with your dog doing these and if they don't understand it they are retarded. if your dog ever bites you because of these punishments have them put down. you can not trust them ever again.

    hitting crosses a line and you risk a dog that submits to you but bites a strange hand and no one will blame a dog that bites its owner for hitting them. they're just defending themselves at that point. they're a dog, in nature if anything causes them sudden pain it's trying to kill them.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all of humanity up till now
    >good parents beat their kids when they do bad things
    >all humans grow up doing amazing and excellent things
    >suddenly hitting your kid is wrong
    >every kid is a entitled brat unable to hold a steady job and constantly depressed
    >entire subculture of being a shut in neet because kids were too domesticated to confront each other with violence like their parents

    Yeah sure every boomer bitches about his parents hitting him but every boomer has lived a long fulfilling and rich life while their kids are too pussy to even ask a girl for their number.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesnt flinch at my hand
    Neither does mine
    >he is emotional and communicative unlike any dog ive known, i assume because dogs trained with violence learn to supress their emotions?
    This is entirely just the dog breed and individual personality of the dog. It has very little to do with not correcting him
    >his bite is extremely soft and controlled
    he has boundaries
    So is mine
    >he will snarl and nip at strangers who violate them *this is a good thing*
    This is not a good thing unless you live deep in the woods. Your dog will be put down for biting a 5 year old or killing your severely mutilating your own childs face for messing with him.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ive only ever hit dogs in a panic like when theyre in mortal danger or bite me hard and i freak out
    never felt good about it tbh
    my current dog is the first ive raised from a puppy and hes never been hit and it shows
    he doesnt flinch at my hand
    he is emotional and communicative unlike any dog ive known, i assume because dogs trained with violence learn to supress their emotions?
    his bite is extremely soft and controlled
    he has boundaries
    he will snarl and nip at strangers who violate them *this is a good thing*

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get new dog
    >puppy 5 weeks old
    >puppy is food aggressive with me
    >slap puppy for daring to food aggression with me
    >fast forward 10 years
    >dog has never attempted food aggression ever since the first slap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grug go too far. Growl like big woof fix small woof problems. Woof learn to hit and bite strange grugling for touching head.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Precisely.
      But all the modern faggy wisdom wants you to spend 6-24 months doing treats and games and positive replacement activity and all kinds of shit that never addresses the root problem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are not based and trad for hitting puppies

        Hitler would have slapped you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get too young puppy
      >be surprised and violent when it doesnt know how to act

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying its own mother wouldn't have done worse if he tried that shit with her

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does dog piss kill grass? are all dogs really just toxic mutants?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most undiluted piss will kill grass

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          human piss will also kill grass
          >t. pisses on grass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because grass as a horrible plant that does not form vast mats in nature. Wolf piss kills it so superior life can take over.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you people actually beat your dogs?
    how can you live with yourself after?
    why do you advocate destroying this cosmic magic interspecies bond?
    i once slammed my dog with a door on accident and he cried and awooed for 8 minutes
    i still feel terrible about it over a year later
    i cant fathom intentionally causing him fear and pain
    our relationship is so solid that all i have to say is " um excuse me?" if hes being a pill and he smartens up without fear or intimidation necessary

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >praises domestication of dogs by humans
      >completely demonizes and ignores the methods used to actually achieve that over thousands of years

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        im gonna buy a few slaves and burn all the neignborhood cats so long as were doing things the old way

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >most dogfags: omg ur dog pulls that shows ur not in control u are being literally cucked by a fucking animal shamefur! whos walking who HUH!? dogs walk at a perfect heel or you take them back home! ur embarassing urself!
    >people who know: dog pulling reduces the physical effort needed to walk, direction is controlled with leash tugs

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Satan wants you

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dogs arent humans. They arent children. They arent your baby.

    Im a dog person, through and through yet when i have expressed that before especially on the internet i have been told that “you are not a dog person” and insulted or all other kinds of retarded shit.

    Most people are terrible dog owners. Their dogs either beg, pull, have bad manners, have run of the house, bark, velcro, jump etc and the owners have no idea how to stop it and modify their lives around it, or even worse, accept it as “cute”.
    Some owners get a dog appropriate for their lifestyle, which means it needs less work and training and wont t exhibit undesirable behaviour in some areas(but most dogs will beg unless you stop them).
    People who buy huskies or goldens in florida in their 45M apartments for example are working against nature no matter what they say. It’ll be 10x the work to train it to behave and look after it.

    Knowing this, most people as said are shitty owners and treat the dog like a human. So any time someone comes along with a well behaved dog(even if they never physically punish it although nothing wrong with doing that correctly) they lose their minds.

    A human wouldn’t enjoy a ball being thrown into a bush knee high in mud/shit and made to run and fetch it 100 times a day. A dog cant get enough of that. Humans would get pissed off fast if you pet them and stroke them every time you greet them and through the day. Dogs love it. If you act like dogs are people in any way you are doing it a disservice and likely are one of these shitty owners with a bad dog. They always say “its just dogs being dogs!!” When their mut has bad habits. No. Its a dog being a dog treated like a human.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your idea of bad behavior is laughably boomer

      >oh god not run of the house
      >YOUR DOG IS UNTRAIIINED
      >tell us basedface why does it need to be trained differently
      >Uhhh muh dogs need to uh know their place yeah because uh i dont uh uh durrr a fuggin animal bix nood

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        first time seeing a dogfag? they all have different retarded must-do rules because they think it’s about dominance. in the same breath they say you cant let a dog sit in the good chair or they’ll think they’re the man of the house, they say dogs don’t think like people. its funny but also sar, it really reminds you dog owners tend to be less educated and lower IQ than cat owners.

        a cat owner would be more perceptive and realize that the dog only has dominance if it controls where you go and controlling where they go isnt necessary as long as its possible. cat people usually make better and less strict dog owners.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          shut up toxo no one cares

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whats boomer about wanting a clean bedroom and easy sleep without dog being a dog and making noise,
        not having furniture stink and covered in hair, and being able to eat without the unhygienic begging(and annoying), dangerous situation where dog begs around you while cooking, and you know, quiet for neighbours and nut jumping on people and ruining their clothes?

        Nothing boomer about it. All i ever hear from fags like you is
        >thats just a dog being a doggerino!!
        No it isnt.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Whats boomer about wanting a clean bedroom and easy sleep without dog being a dog and making noise,
          It's not necessary to have a well behaved dog. I'd rather sleep with the dog. It doesn't affect them for the worst.
          >not having furniture stink and covered in hair
          It doesn't stink, it smells pretty good, really, and the hair is harmless. It's also not needed to have a well behaved dog.
          >Being able to eat without begging
          If you don't mind it, it's not making your dog worse.
          >Begs around you while cooking
          That's an entirely different situation than just begging.
          >quiet for the neighbors
          I fucking hate those people. That said I prefer breeds that don't bark at all. Even if you think you have a dog trained they will bark when you are not home and they will bark at least once or twice and very loudly now and then. They're just annoying and it's not a behavior anyone needs if they don't live in the middle of nowhere.
          >Jumping on people and ruining their clothes
          I am actively hostile to company. There are only 3-4 people alive at any one time that I want in the house and they all jump on the dog instead. It's cute. Deal with it.

          >No it isn't! It's not just a dog being a dog!
          Don't care. It's all meaningless personal preference. What you are saying is a dog is badly behaved if you wouldn't want it that way, but that doesn't matter. It's not your house bud. It's mine. If you don't like it you can leave it.

          When a dog is truly badly behaved, it destroys shit when you leave, and maybe when you're home. It doesn't just bark, it barks non stop at nothing. It doesn't pull on walks, it lunges and snarls (either piss poor training or i'm so sorry your dog was attacked or abused). It bites people. It pisses and shits wherever it stands as long as it's not your carpet. It eats its toys. It jumps up and takes food from out in front of you. It gets aggressive to keep you from sitting and going places. You know buddy, things that are objectively bad.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Groom and take of your dog retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dogs arent humans.

      Das the best thing about them!

      >Their dogs either beg

      yes, my dog looks at me when I eat. Mostly because we eat together and she's done first. we also often enough eat the same stuff. so I guess I'm a bad owner for not ahving established clearer boundaries. YOU WHILL EAT ZHE GOYSLOP ZHE CORNER!

      >velcro

      feature, not a bug.

      >in their 45M apartments

      imexp, apartment cucks train their dogs better simply because they are forced to. even a football field size yard would get old in 2 weeks if that is all the simulation your dog gets.

      >A dog cant get enough of that.

      2 days of fetch in a row is fine, rd day you'll see a decile in enthusiasm, 4th days is a polite "NO, THX!". at least that's my dog. variety is important. if your dog isn't like mine and will ALWAYS fetch the ball, you may just want to introduce variety to avoid training your dog into a neurotic ball junky - which is a thing.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So you think dogs are people then?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He never said dogs were anything like people. Learn to read. You can read, ri…

      ….heeeey

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People treat dogs *better than humans. If a child jumped on a stranger they would be sharply pulled off. If an adult did they would be punched in the face.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dogfags never can seem to pick a lane. Either dogs have no moral compass or sense of wrong doing and they have no agency, or they are just like people and should be treated like children and have emotions and behaviors like people (cry like people, love like people, "act" like people you know the youtube videos etc).

    Dog saves a child because he loves humans as an individual vs dog mauls a child because it's an inherently insane basket of feral neurons and its actually the owners fault. Which is it?

    Personally I eat dead animal corpses so who cares what you do with some fag animal, pigs and cows are probably better pets too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dogfags never can seem to pick a lane
      Because we aren't a hivemind fool

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it’s a pitbull its a mindless beast
      If its a collie it had thoughts and feelings

      Simple? Eat pitbulls.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People treat dogs like humans these days
    Yeah, you shouldn't own a dog if you see it this way

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason you don't beat your kids. They will associate your hand with pain & punishment instead of love. You're also confusing and gsslighting the shit out of them when you show affection one minute then become an embodiment of fear the next.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This. Sometimes dogs need a small but firm swat along with an abrupt loud sound to make them stop doing something stupid. It's basically how they say "no" to each other in dog. Ive had to do this 4 times in my 14 years of owning my dogs. I fucking HATE when people say hitting dogs is never acceptable because sometimes its absolutely for their best interest. One time my pup wouldn't stop trying to eat off the counter, this was obviously unacceptable for multiple reasons but a big one was that I didn't want her to accidentally burn her paws on the stove. After I caught her in the act and promptly nipped it in bud she never did it again.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most dog owners in big cities are fucking awful. It's zillenials and zoomers with dogs they got for their anxiety coddling the things and taking them everywhere letting them do whatever they want. You can't yank your dog's collar for lunging at another dog anymore without some weirdo getting in your face about it. I know this from experience, I'm 26. I have one friend who has a dog she can't take to dog parks because he'll attack other dogs. What does she do about it? Nothing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dog parks are where the lowest common denominator congreggate their dogs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Got me 🙂

        enjoi that imaginary pitbull mix that goes running free in the leashless park

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we live in a 500k city and here basically everybody knows everybody and it's all genrally peaceful. ofc there is the occasional retard dog like those short legged, ultra dense pitbulls that will just slam into you full force to get pets but where is the difference from teh husky who first thing goes to piss in the water bowl?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The pitbull is just dumb and the husky is acting out of spite due to all of them being reincarnated members of the nazi party.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >due to all of them being reincarnated members of the nazi party

            Expound please.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Every nazi that ever died reincarnated as a husky and they’re kind of salty about it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would be salty if I were husky over a good working dog tbh

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m not sure OP, aversive and positive reinforcement are good training methods. I use a mix of both and my doggy is smart for his age.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say it's bait but dogfags actually are like this. They don't have a single use for a dog, they just want something they can get away with beating up and shouting at for arbitrary transgressions so they can feel powerful again after getting home from the kind of jobs low IQ people such as themselves normally hold. The dogfag is immaturity, insecurity, and idiocy. They are the sludge at the bottom of the world. No one respects a dog gay, and so when an animal does not automatically worship them and listen to every last command and rule simply because it is theirs, they have a meltdown like the dog just fucked their girlfriend and made fun of their little dick. And what is their reward for treating this animal like dirt? Nay, them breeding animals that would take to it, rather than appropriately responding to their abuse and listening less and trying to escape? A stupid, drooling, servile creature that is 10000x uglier and less dignified than its wild ancestor and eats everything its mouth goes near.

    Contrast the cat. Handsome, dignified, sensible. The cat was not bred to obey arbitrary rules and commands given by a peasant and if you insisted it would hate you and run away.

    In short, typical dog owners, typical dogs. Disordered. Unintelligent. Pathetic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enough with your copypasta.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dunning Krueger

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want something I can get away with using them as a prop for my dark academia outfits.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know this is bait, but watching something that makes you uncomfortable (someone correcting their dog in public) and immediately lashing out by saying the edgiest shit you can think of (they should have their dog killed... paradoxically since apparently it bothers you a lot that the dog is being hurt) points at a much deeper neuroticism on your end. Go get checked out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is he being bothered because the dog is hurt, or because hurting the dog and having the dog are displays of subhumanity?
        >capture an animal you have no need for
        >harm it to help prop up your ego

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >capture
          Who the fuck is capturing domesticated animals you retard lmfao

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I made a thread about correcting dogs with a choke collar and every pussy on this board jumped in to cry about it. People are ignorant, they think it’s ethically wrong to correct a puppy by giving him a few quick yanks because they’re not thinking about the fact that the dog is going to weigh 80lbs one day and obedience is paramount. I got into an argument with some person about it yesterday, she was tugging a fat chihuahua with her. Of course she’s not worried about her dog being obedient, but the fact that he was that fat tells me she didn’t care about his health either. Just ignorance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, I should mention that I only learned to train my dogs like this from the single agency in San Diego County that trains police dogs for various agencies in that county. If the pros are doing it, why aren’t you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If choking is so good why don't you try to gulp down my diabolically swollen balls

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know you don’t actually choke them, right? You give them a quick pull. It’s uncomfortable, but they’re fine.

        Oh wait, you don’t know. You’re ignorant.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're ignorant to how obscenely hairy my testicles are, but I can and will teach you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's mostly about how pathetic it is to watch a grown man yank a dumb animal around because it didn't sit just because he said so. You're not a cop who uses a dog to save your own life and avoid a physical confrontation with an armed suspect, you're just a little boy playing games. You don't need a dog, and shouldn't have one. Spare us the non stop barking and put the mutt down.
          >but if i hit them when i bark they...!
          They bark when you're not home lmfao. Dogs don't respect you. They just fear you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My dog actually doesn’t bark, because I raised him right. You have fun with your mutt doing whatever it wants, though.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              its much more fun to interact with a dog that isnt afraid to express itself tbh
              thats why a gentle leader who teaches appropriate behavior without harsh correction is ideal

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gentle leaders are on the chopping block btw

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you a bot btw

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Peak schizo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                peak bot regurgitating nothingisms

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >animefag
                >ur a bot!1!

                Meds

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao obvious bot is malfunctioning under pressure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Completely disagree with this tbh. A dog that's not afraid to express itself can express any num,ber of antisocial behaviors it wants to. A bite is an expression, you can't allow that.
                Also, it works well when they're puppies so you don't have to do it when they're adults. You give them 2 years of harsh discipline, when they're adults they are model dogs and live happy lives that don't end up with them getting put down for taking a kid's fingers off.

                https://i.imgur.com/ihhgBBH.jpg

                Caring about your dog not having dangerous or obnoxious behaviors is one thing, caring about obedience is another.
                Only overcompensating poorfag hicks want to be obeyed and treated like authority. My neighbor is the second type of owner and this is how he "educates" his dog. They're all like this.
                The picture is part of the evidence that I will use to get his dog sequestered by the way.

                Leaving open wounds is so far beyond what most people using e-collars or choke chains are doing. Really grasping for straws here. Your neighbor should definitely get his dog taken away though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                read the second part of my post
                beleive it or not its possible to have a dog that isnt afraid to express itself and also knows how to appropriately express itself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Couldn’t have said it better.

                The problem is people like him either only interact with other peoples dogs in one setting, and dont have to put up with all the bad sides of a dog that was never trained and is maximally expressive, OR they are like a woman who thinks their dog is their surrogate child, likely plays with its dick and takes some kind of anxiety medicine. They work around their badly behaved dog and alter their life instead of training it properly. They’ll never go out late so it doesn’t bark, fr example. Or they’ll stop cooking certain food so it doesn’t get too hyper

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats the problem.

                People alwaya point to some retards who actually abuse animals and hurt them and have no idea how to train them physically at all as if thats the only result of beating a dog or physically training it with a punishment.

                No consideration for proper use of these methods.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                these methods are improper precisely because people in general are too retarded to use them properly and there are much more calm training methods with net benefit that dont involve traumatising and destroying the bond they have with their dog
                no one advocating punishment based training to the broad public would be considered above said retards

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people in general are too retarded to use them properly
                Then they're only as improper as the person using them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i guarantee no one advocating for them itt is using them properly

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can say that but you really can't know that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i know without a doubt
                i also that retards are going to retard so i cant change anyone's mind

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You really don't. I've been training dogs for 15 years, I incorporate both choke collars and e-collars into my training. I know what I'm doing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sounds like youve been abusing dogs for 15 years and it might even be weighing on your conscience

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                From that angle I understand. However most people aren’t so rational like you are about it. They just think any physical training or negative punishment is le animal abuse call the police.

                >I don’t want my dog jumping
                A simple knee or body block will stop this

                >I dont want my dog running around the kitchen while i cook.
                Pet gates or crate.

                >I dont want my dog barking loudly
                Anti bark collar

                Also, pet gate doesn’t fix shit. My dogs would hear the words “outside” and aee me open the door and point and they’d leave the room and either sit in the hall or do something else. I never had to beat them or do much for them to learn. They figured it out from my attention and rewards, and how I talked/reacted to them when they didn’t comply while young.

                I accept some dogs are beyond training though however that is very rare, and usually cause by abandonment or some retard who actually abused it and nothing but abused it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >actually most pedophiles don't rape children, we just touch them a little bit!
                You're either the type of person who commits acts of brutality against the ingenuous and defenseless or you're not. It doesn't matter if the violence you commit is tiny or huge, it defines you as a person nonetheless.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The answer to your question OP is women and low t men.

                Society is coddled and gay now. In fact society itself is much like dogs, they are tamed and timid spoiled little brats. Compared to a wolf, a dog is just a man child its entire life, genetically bred to be passive, non-aggressive and overly compassionate.

                These are all retarded and overly idealistic dogs. These types of people are, like women all talk. They have no concern about the real world consequences of their actions or lack of actions.

                They will pretend that you are evil or mean or immoral because you actually have job and aren't about to spend 10 hours a day training your dog to not eat meth head needles off the ground with positive reinforcements and treats.

                t. forces his dog to wear a collar

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seething retard

                if your dog eats meth needles natural selection needs to take it out

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If your dog needs to be on a leash it doesn't deserve to exist. Leashes are cruel and abusive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not the dog that is the problem. Its cargays, muslims, blacks, and sheep fuckers. Dogs don’t mind leashes because they don’t hurt and if they really hate them they can slip the collar or bite through the leash. Meanwhile every dog should be able to tell if something is food or not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >its not the dog its the entire universe
                Entitled gay should have been beat more by your parents.

                Puppies will pick up everything and anything in their mouths.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your retard dog will eat any turd or biological object it sniffs due to an unnaturally strong appetite. that does not mean every dog is that retarded. and if you feel a need to hit a puppy for chewing on shit you're probably a retard for trying to take a puppy on walks through fields of crack needles.

                >all of humanity up till now
                >good parents beat their kids when they do bad things
                >all humans grow up doing amazing and excellent things
                >suddenly hitting your kid is wrong
                >every kid is a entitled brat unable to hold a steady job and constantly depressed
                >entire subculture of being a shut in neet because kids were too domesticated to confront each other with violence like their parents

                Yeah sure every boomer bitches about his parents hitting him but every boomer has lived a long fulfilling and rich life while their kids are too pussy to even ask a girl for their number.

                do you really want your dog to be accustomed to violence? and fuck spanking, it's been illegal in most of europe for ages and they have no problem rioting and forming actual nazi militias that shoot people. all spanking does is make you more criminal and impulsively violent. i guarantee you the american right is full of child smackers and you can see they don't do anything except drink too much and occasionally get into bar fights.

                >implying its own mother wouldn't have done worse if he tried that shit with her

                try having puppies sometime. mother dogs just growl, snap, and shove. the only time you need to hit a dog is when they are an adult, and an aggressive retard that never should have been born. i see you new age "TRAD BRO" dog trainers smacking and shocking dogs that bite their fucking owners when 100 years ago your great great granddad would have just put those gays down and kept the good dog he only ever had to yell at. those great men selected out the shit dogs so you would never have to beat on them to get them to be decent. and then, they got old and died, and people started breeding shit dogs again that will eat anything carbon based and "dogs with DRIVE" that bite their own fucking owners. "but its ok bro, e-collar". ridiculous.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People breed dogs that are more food motivated or with stronger aggression
                >These dogs compete at a very high level in trials and are better at their jobs, respond to commands faster and never back down from a fight
                >This is bad because nooo i have to hit it and keep a muzzle on it
                Your 100 year old great great granddad didn't even keep his dogs in a crate because he spent so much time at work he didn't have time to let it out. These days dogs are for serious owners, not any retard. There is literally nothing wrong with a dog having so much drive you need to punish it to control it because if that scares you, you shouldn't have a real dog. Does having a dog that responds to commands faster and more consistently and never backs down sound like a bad thing to you? GTFO pussy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A high maintenance gay dog I can't trust 100% does sound like a bad thing to me. That 100 year old guy actually used his dogs in real life, not "dog sports". His dogs were for normal people, not "dog people".

                Breeders forgot that because the people paying big money for their pups are all "dog people" and this overly neurotic "drive" stuff is slowly contaminating the rest of the population.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're such a retarded gay and its obvious you're backpedaling yourself into a corner. Why say this shit, why not take it one step further.

                If you don't use your dog for work you shouldn't breed or own a dog. Oh wait, that would contradict your entire reason for owning a dog. Stop living in some mythical reality were dogs have only suddenly been bred for work.

                There's two kinds of dogs. Small dysgenic dogs breed purely as foot warmers for nobles and dogs bred for work.

                Keep twisting reality and coping though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There’s having a dog for work and then there’s having a high strung neurotic gay to “work” at trials slightly better. There are not two kinds, there are three kinds. Pet dogs, working dogs, and fucked up mutants made by competition breeding.

                My dog doesn't have a unusually strong appetite at all. You are talking out your ass. You've owned one puppy and think you know it all. My god you are such a gay.

                >dude just don't take your dogs for walk because shit exists
                >dude you can't just leave your dog in the house all day nooooooo
                have a nice day.

                mother dogs snap at their puppies. Exactly, this is a correction. They nip them to the point where it hurts and the dog fears for its well being. Is this abuse? According to you it is and the pinnacle of evil.

                Yeah kill aggressive dogs. Pretending that anybody bred out the need to corrections of a living animal is peak corrections. 100 years ago people would hit their dog regardless if it was extremely aggressive or docile.

                Don’t take a mouthing puppy for a walk in a trash field and it solves itself. Its not an emergency anymore. I snap at and shout at my dogs and sometimes shove them or grab them but I don’t smack them, and i’m not so fucking stupid i hit puppies. There’s a correction and then there’s hitting your dog. If your dog needs hit someone is a retard.

                We bred out the need for fighting your own dog. And you would be surprised, some gay came out with a book telling people to hit their dogs and started this “dogs need beatings” shit. Dog beating was never in fashion. Puppy killing on the other hand, and promptly putting them down in the back yard, absolutely were. People didn’t get bit by their dominant male dog and try and train them not to bite them, they just put them down.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                people with guard dogs would hit them to make them mean but yeah most dogs weren’t hit very often and if they were it was just to stop the biting before putting them down. i saw a dog jump on an old man and he didnt hit it. he shoved it and it fell backwards. treat dogs like people, they say… well, he certainly did.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you not read the OP. Shoving a dog backwards is abuse and evil by today standards.

                There’s having a dog for work and then there’s having a high strung neurotic gay to “work” at trials slightly better. There are not two kinds, there are three kinds. Pet dogs, working dogs, and fucked up mutants made by competition breeding.

                [...]
                Don’t take a mouthing puppy for a walk in a trash field and it solves itself. Its not an emergency anymore. I snap at and shout at my dogs and sometimes shove them or grab them but I don’t smack them, and i’m not so fucking stupid i hit puppies. There’s a correction and then there’s hitting your dog. If your dog needs hit someone is a retard.

                We bred out the need for fighting your own dog. And you would be surprised, some gay came out with a book telling people to hit their dogs and started this “dogs need beatings” shit. Dog beating was never in fashion. Puppy killing on the other hand, and promptly putting them down in the back yard, absolutely were. People didn’t get bit by their dominant male dog and try and train them not to bite them, they just put them down.

                You just keep talking out your ass. You've likely met less then 5 dogs in the past year. Shut the fuck up already.

                Why are you such a stupid fucking gay. Is it inconceivable that when going on a walk anywhere in the world you may run into shit, dead rotting birds, trash and garbage? Its unavoidable, stop pretending it is. You are making yourself look like a fool.

                >my dog jumps on guests
                >lol just stop inviting guests over lol
                This is your solution. You are a retarded low t and low Iq gay.

                Why are you going on about shit I already know as if its an argument against correcting your dog? Why do you act as if hitting your dog means beating the fuck out of them until you break their ribs and blood spurts out their nose?

                Are you autistic? Its amazing how you take my exaggeration about meth needles so literally yet you exaggerate "hit a dog" into beating it half to death.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said dont walk a mouthing puppy, retard

                >muh guests
                I said i dont give a shit if they jump on guests, if I did a no would be enough because i actually train dogs and have real working dogs not high strung trial champions
                >shoving and shouting are evil
                They’re abrupt corrections that don’t hurt. Dog beating is for small ballsacks that fly off the handle like you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > fucked up mutants
                thats actually the only kind of dog

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Anything I don't like is a mutant no matter how healthy and functional they are
                If your dog grows so fast their hips fall apart because you can't afford a horse for your cart, that's a mutant
                If your dog constantly yaps and barks at everything that moves in the dark, that's a mutant
                If your dog bites your head if you don't zap them half dead, that's a mutant
                If your dog looks a bit like sausage or shit, that's a mutant
                If your dog leaks enough drool to fill up a pool, that's a mutant
                If your dog attacks everything in sight and lives to fight, that's a mutant

                Now if your dog's healthy, nice, and full of life, listens to what you say unless you're a woman or gay, isn't too big or too small, doesn't see everything as a snack or have a face like a ballsack, goes roof, ruff, arf woo-woo and howls but knows how to quiet the fuck down, nothing has changed, they're just a friend.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My dog doesn't have a unusually strong appetite at all. You are talking out your ass. You've owned one puppy and think you know it all. My god you are such a gay.

                >dude just don't take your dogs for walk because shit exists
                >dude you can't just leave your dog in the house all day nooooooo
                have a nice day.

                mother dogs snap at their puppies. Exactly, this is a correction. They nip them to the point where it hurts and the dog fears for its well being. Is this abuse? According to you it is and the pinnacle of evil.

                Yeah kill aggressive dogs. Pretending that anybody bred out the need to corrections of a living animal is peak corrections. 100 years ago people would hit their dog regardless if it was extremely aggressive or docile.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're not a cop who uses a dog to save your own life and avoid a physical confrontation with an armed suspect, you're just a little boy playing games
            Did you miss the part about the dog being 80 pounds? People get mauled by shitbulls because of retards like you. You don’t train them with the expectation that they’ll be cops one day, you train them with the expectation that they won’t kill a kid one day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's mostly about how pathetic it is to watch a grown man yank a dumb animal around because it didn't sit just because he said so. You're not a cop who uses a dog to save your own life and avoid a physical confrontation with an armed suspect, you're just a little boy playing games. You don't need a dog, and shouldn't have one. Spare us the non stop barking and put the mutt down.
              >but if i hit them when i bark they...!
              They bark when you're not home lmfao. Dogs don't respect you. They just fear you.

              Large and XL dogs aren’t dangerous but due to their size they can cause serious harm.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People get mauled by shitbulls because they are genetically predisposed to violence. They are meant to be kept in cages until they are sent to die in a dogfight.

              Dogs are tools, not pets.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is what i mean. You gays dont accept any thing except
            >huurrr dog fears you
            When someone mentions hitting the dog to discipline them.

            My dogs loved me and were happy. I looked after them with too care and food, exercise and they always greeted me happily. I did positive enforcement too, just not where it wasn’t appropriate.
            I have only ever did physical beating 3-5 times in its 17 years and it was all while young, they learned very fast. Then, after it learns not to do something you start to replace and reward with some positive thing after.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >physical beating
              Are you mentally ill?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Disobedient dogs have no place in the world.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it depends on what they disobey over and what their "job" is. a somewhat sassy dog is a better companion if you are not a gay with control issues.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are too many people that think anyone who cares about obedience automatically = hick who kicks their dog and abuses it and treats it like an object. I dont know what is wrong with them.

      Dogs are smarter than people think. You should not beat(the correct way) a dog with bad anxiety or a super aggressive one however as it wont help but most dogs snot in that zone

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Caring about your dog not having dangerous or obnoxious behaviors is one thing, caring about obedience is another.
        Only overcompensating poorfag hicks want to be obeyed and treated like authority. My neighbor is the second type of owner and this is how he "educates" his dog. They're all like this.
        The picture is part of the evidence that I will use to get his dog sequestered by the way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its not about being obeyed. As said, you fucking pussys always picture some dumb extremes. Im not even American.

          I dont want my dog jumping on me or anyone. I dont want my dog running around the kitchen while i cook. I dont want my dog barking loudly at night when someone comes home as it disturbs the neighbours.
          i find most owners will just make sure to come home earlier or work around the dog. Its not how it should be. Why do they do that? Because fixing these things with positive reinforcement is really time consuming and difficult and doesn’t always work. If you beat the dog correctly(not enough to hurt it just make it sad) they wont do it again, and from there its way way easier to do a new positive thing instead.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is a reason why disciplining a dog by hitting or yelling is ineffective and immoral. It is because dogs are not capable of understanding human language. This means that they will not understand what you are saying to them, and they will not associate the punishment with the wrong behavior. In fact, they may even associate the punishment with you, which will make them even more likely to misbehave in the future.

            Hitting or yelling at a dog will only create anger and frustration in the animal. It will not clarify to the dog what they did wrong, and it will not stop the behavior. In fact, it may only make the dog temperamentier and more hostile.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They dont need to understand human language what are you talking about? They understand their emotions, your emotions, attention and cause and effect. Its that simple.

              Thats why its about making the dog feel a little sad if it jumps on your grandmother for example. Not “hello buddy please dont jump on granny understood?” You can say anything. Its about scolding, tone and a light but firm pat to make the dog understand cause and effect and that if it does x owner will not be happy and neither will dog. They remember this for quite a while. Then its super easy to upon the dog seeing granny, teach it to sit or lie down then it gets pets every time forever

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're talking about telling a dog no in a thread made because the guy who was larping about slamming his german shepherd into the sidewalk wasn't getting enough (you)s with his bait story

                the subject line even says "by hitting them"

                i personally think a dog that NEEDS that "discipline" should be put down because it only understand violence. it's always the dudebros with aggressive breeds too. nta they're not so tough when you shoot their dog when it charges you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is both severely wrong and uninformed. Dogs have been shown to be capable of understanding and reacting to a very limited range of emotions, including anger, fear, and sadness. They have difficulty understanding and reacting to more complex emotions, such as love and happiness. This is largely due to the fact that they do not have a cognitive framework to understand these concepts. Attention is also a complex concept for a dog, and they can only understand it in the context of what they have experienced before. Finally, causes and effects are not always clear to dogs and they may not always be able to understand the connections between them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >love and happiness
                Unless you have a personal belief that love is something more (it isn't, or every emotion is something more because you are a romantic gay) these are two of the most primitive emotions mammals are capable of.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >modern dog science
                >thousands of years of domestication wisdom

                Not interested in waiting hundred years for the science to confirm the latter in more explicit terms.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don’t want my dog jumping
            A simple knee or body block will stop this

            >I dont want my dog running around the kitchen while i cook.
            Pet gates or crate.

            >I dont want my dog barking loudly
            Anti bark collar

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kneeing is equivalent to beating. If anything its worse imo. We are on the same page clearly.
              Bidy blocking is ineffective. They arent smart, its still attention and maybe even playing in a dogs eyes. Encouraging.

              Better off leaving the room immediately however that will take a long time for the dog to learn by that method, and some will not.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't want my dog jumping
            >Muh kitchen
            Cry more. Animals being animals, oh no.
            >barking
            Genetics, not training. Your dog barks when you are not there.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Animals being animals is the most common thing you pussies say in response to that. Enjoy your fluff infest shit stained home and sharing your dinner plate with your dog. Remember to be home by 20:00 so the neighbours dont get upset at the dogs barking!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My home is clean and my dog isn't a breed that barks. Reminder, no matter what you will do it will never make you feel like your dad would be proud of you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I dont want my dog running around the kitchen while i cook
            Then close the door you wifeless retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually there's something a hell of a lot better than a choke collar. Put one of these bad boys on your dog and it'll quit pulling immediately. No pain, no pulling, no pesky abuse comments. This invention should be a lot more well known but isn't for some reason and it blows my mind.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We actually have one. The problem is she hates having the loop around her muzzle, so we transitioned over to the choke collar. She rarely pulls on the choke collar anymore and I prefer that she wears something that she's more comfortable in, but that affords me the opportunity to correct her if the need arises.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm glad your dog finally got the message to stop pulling, thats pretty rare imo. All my dogs nearly choked themselves to death on walks until I put the face mask on em.

          https://i.imgur.com/BRJAotr.jpg

          I have never had to hurt a dog and if you have to, I'm just going to assume your dog is extremely retarded.

          I have also only ever owned border collies and huskies. Border collies do agility and huskies pull bikes. I consider most other dogs brainless obedience machines that are incapable of anything resembling thought and operate purely on conditioning. The border collie is the one breed that is both intelligent and obedient, and more so than any other dog. The husky is highly intelligent but about as obedient as a random human off the street and glad to jump the fence if you have a problem with it.

          Really, any other breeds are subcanine.

          >No pain
          It is actually pretty painful.

          If you tug on it I can imagine it'd be pretty painful but I've never had to do that. It's been a blessing. One of my parents gay dogs in the past broke my elbow because he saw a shithead squirrel and bolted. Walking him was always a huge pain in the ass because he was a big dog and would not stop pulling no matter what. When I bought them the anti pulling device he stopped in his tracks and they finally started to walk him on their own. A little bit of facial discomfort >>>>>>>>> possible injuries or simply not walking your dog altogether.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >facial discomfort
            It torques their spine. If a dog is not terminally retarded and incapable of thought you should be able to train them to stop pulling with a regular harness in 2 weeks, no collars or special devices required. Then again, I am also a strong proponent of never owning a dog you can not pick up. Owning a dog that can overpower you is irresponsible. They are still living things, not computers, and you can not "program" a living thing reliably. Most of them SHOULD have free will and knowledge of right and wrong. The ones that don't I consider even less trustworthy.

            >People treat dogs like humans these days
            Yeah, you shouldn't own a dog if you see it this way

            If you treat a dog like a human you will do a great job, assuming you don't treat humans like royalty.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the problem is a lot of these dog owners these days are naturally subservient betamaxes who can't even communicate their desires and establish a reason to care to other people using plain english, so doing that to an animal that can't speak english at all is impossible to them.

              if you give these retards cats it actually gets worse because a dog is a social animal and will at least try to infer and learn morals. all but the best and brightest don't so if you give a betamax a cat the cat basically owns them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can't see how it'd do that unless either they or you are pulling on it at all. My dogs would make sure not an ounce of pressure was put on the harness once strapped in. I actually had real trouble with training my dogs to stop pulling, I even hired a trainer once, but it just wouldn't work. It was like they were trainable for anything BUT that. Now though I finally don't have to walk them at night to avoid people.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's because it feels like shit and they're afraid of breaking their necks when they feel it. If you've ever had your next forcibly twisted by your face, like if someone figured a bite was worth it and grabbed your teeth in a fight after school, it's a horrible feeling.

                Also either you're a retard or your dogs don't love/care about you at all and only see you as a source of food. Some people basically torture their dogs so they can have a high energy working animal and only go on a 10 minute walk a day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that's because it feels like shit and they're afraid of breaking their necks when they feel it.

                all "gentle leader" collars are bona fide animal abuse. a prnf collar is nothing in comparison. sure, it may even leave bloody puncture wounds but if your dog runs into a GL, it can literally break it's spine. and even the non fatal small twists dog get during their learning curve are known to cause issues. this thread makes me mad af. absolute brainlets in here. imagine being outsmarted by a fucking dog and not realizing that

                https://i.imgur.com/sCt6hGa.jpg

                Im not talking hard. Not anywhere near enough to hurt them. Just to make a point so the dog doesn’t do whatever bad behaviour ever again.

                Example: dog jumps on people constantly. Modern faggy wisdom is you do all kinds of complicated shit and reward them for doing that instead to condition them to have the urge to do that each time they would consider jumping. This is extremely time consuming and wont even work sometimes. It also doesn’t solve the problem, the dog just learned to do something else in that one context and likely at home only.
                If you lightly hit them just enough to make it disappointed but not hurt them, it will not do it again full stop. Then you can back to loving your dog and making it happy.

                People treat dogs like humans these days. They cant separate abuse and discipline.

                >They cant separate abuse and discipline.

                while actually saying it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have never had to hurt a dog and if you have to, I'm just going to assume your dog is extremely retarded.

        I have also only ever owned border collies and huskies. Border collies do agility and huskies pull bikes. I consider most other dogs brainless obedience machines that are incapable of anything resembling thought and operate purely on conditioning. The border collie is the one breed that is both intelligent and obedient, and more so than any other dog. The husky is highly intelligent but about as obedient as a random human off the street and glad to jump the fence if you have a problem with it.

        Really, any other breeds are subcanine.

        >No pain
        It is actually pretty painful.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're right, most dogs are extremely retarded. morons like labs will walk directly into pots of boiling water if you let them, and german shepherds are born not being able to understand hierarchy until you kick their ass. once you raise a more intelligent breed you begin to realize how awful most dogs are. having a husky or something is literally doing the dog thing on easy mode. just be very physically active so they calm down and they basically train themselves to do most basic shit. it's something else when you're used to dogs nearly knocking people over when they jump on them, and then you have a smarter dog. they jump on people without knocking them over, they have empathy and can predict consequences so they immediately know not to push people over.

          also, males are generally 2x dumber than females. if you only get female dogs your chances of getting a retard go way down.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've been around five miniature goldens and they're all MUCH smarter than regular ones. They're literally the perfect dog. Medium so no chance of major injury in the rare event one goes nuts (and cant pull your arm off if over the age of 10), lives twice as long as a normal golden because no inbreeding, friendly as they come, mid-high intelligence, very obedient, and they will always look like a puppy! Collies are one of my close favorites though. Did you know that when they herd sheep they purposefully lower themselves and act like a predator to make the sheep move? How they just know to do that is amazing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because they're not goldens, they're a golden/spaniel/poodle mutt. The added genetic diversity generally improves health and intelligence in highly inbred, I mean, purebred dogs and poodles are one of the more intelligent breeds which likely raises their IQ. Sadly they're basically being bred for a genetic disorder (achondroplasia) which has unforeseen consequences.

              It's just a dwarf doodle with the curly hair bred out, really. Doodles are also known to turn out smarter than goldens, while remaining obedient.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >having a husky or something is literally doing the dog thing on easy mode. just be very physically active so they calm down and they basically train themselves to do most basic shit.

            Wee Woo Wee Woo

            non-husky owner detected

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My experience with Jack Russells is that they are also easy to train and basically dont exhibit this behaviour either.

            Golden retrievers are always said to be sooooo smarrrrt but imo these dogs are fucking irritating and dumb as shit and like you said require a lot of training to make them acceptable.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have fun when he bites ya

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >They cant separate abuse and discipline.
    ironic statement
    enjoy abusing you dog i guess? idgaf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IP count goes up

      have fun when he bites ya

      >IP count goes up

      I made a thread about correcting dogs with a choke collar and every pussy on this board jumped in to cry about it. People are ignorant, they think it’s ethically wrong to correct a puppy by giving him a few quick yanks because they’re not thinking about the fact that the dog is going to weigh 80lbs one day and obedience is paramount. I got into an argument with some person about it yesterday, she was tugging a fat chihuahua with her. Of course she’s not worried about her dog being obedient, but the fact that he was that fat tells me she didn’t care about his health either. Just ignorance.

      >IP count doesn't go up

      https://i.imgur.com/aTWGpqW.jpg

      I'd say it's bait but dogfags actually are like this. They don't have a single use for a dog, they just want something they can get away with beating up and shouting at for arbitrary transgressions so they can feel powerful again after getting home from the kind of jobs low IQ people such as themselves normally hold. The dogfag is immaturity, insecurity, and idiocy. They are the sludge at the bottom of the world. No one respects a dog gay, and so when an animal does not automatically worship them and listen to every last command and rule simply because it is theirs, they have a meltdown like the dog just fucked their girlfriend and made fun of their little dick. And what is their reward for treating this animal like dirt? Nay, them breeding animals that would take to it, rather than appropriately responding to their abuse and listening less and trying to escape? A stupid, drooling, servile creature that is 10000x uglier and less dignified than its wild ancestor and eats everything its mouth goes near.

      Contrast the cat. Handsome, dignified, sensible. The cat was not bred to obey arbitrary rules and commands given by a peasant and if you insisted it would hate you and run away.

      In short, typical dog owners, typical dogs. Disordered. Unintelligent. Pathetic.

      >IP count goes up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Schizo moment

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