Why do normies think it's acceptable to have their cats running around on other people's property? If you think cats belong outdoor, why the fuck keep it as a pet in the first place?
Why do normies think it's acceptable to have their cats running around on other people's property?
A cat is a killing machine, it will not stop until every living thing on Earth is dead. If a fox can't catch it, a cat can. If a racoon can't reach it's nest and eat its eggs, a cat can and will wipe them the fuck out.
If we don't do everything we can to stop these viscous murderers, if just one unspayed feline escapes its apartment pod, then the entire ecosystem of the Americas will be destroyed. We will have superpacks of eighty cats taking down bison on the plains after they have scoured all the birds from the trees wile the grizzlies starve out.
I kneel
I think you need to suffer a life altering injury psycho
So if people want to save the environment from cats is it not more important to save human children mauled by dogs? And what's with the toxo memes? I don't think owning any animal is sanitary, but I know dogs stink way more and bring shit indoors, also they lick dog assholes. So i'm pretty sure dog owners would carry some nasty bacteria, some of them even allow the animal to lick them. When I go hiking, I usually see dogs and dog shit, not a good sign.
Overall, I think most pet owners are mentally unwell or something, they act strange about their animals; dog owners allow their house to smell like dog, cat owners allow cats to damage furniture. Dog owners are also the dog's bitch, they smell like the dog, they gotta give the dog space to eat or it'll bite their ass.
Pitbulls kill more people than all other dogs combined
Toxo kills 20x more people than pitbulls
Outdoor cats cause more death than a dog bred to kill people. Also dogs smell amazing and are intelligent and kind creatures. Cats are antisocial and attack everything which is why muslims like them.
Note: I personally do not consider anything without pointy ears a dog.
>Cats are antisocial and attack everything which is why muslims like them
Cats actually hate subhumans. Prob why you think they're antisocial
>So if people want to save the environment from cats is it not more important to save human children mauled by dogs?
Do you see anyone trying to defend free roaming dogs here?
the toxo has fried his brain.
Based. I don't even have a problem with shooting the cats and dogs that wander onto my property to fuck with my shit, but that guy is obviously getting off on it.
What's the best way to kill a cat you caught? I usually just poison them, but from time to time i catch one that comes up to me to play. Whenever something like that happens i usually just cut their throats, but i'm wondering if there is a more humane way?
You can feed em to the amputated, eyeless, starving dogs in the basement. Pretty neat.
who hurt you
I think he just felt like replying to himself when his bait didn't get any (you)s.
Throw them into a peat moss bog, that way they won't decompose and thus their soul will never be released to be reincarnated
I actually completely agree it's retarded to just let your your cat wander. I just pray that gays like OP's post just capture then bring them to a shelter
It’s insane how enthralled you gays are.
I have no issue with indoor cats, but outdoor cats are objectively a pest and a danger to the ecosystem they are in.
They will decimate local wildlife and you will still defend them just because they are cute.
See
the average outdoor cat is fed enough to where they rarely hunts anything that would be missed. you are thinking of "wild cats" and grouping them with peoples pets, learn the difference
retard
you think they're the boogie man when all of their prey has evolved to escape predators faster than cats. what are burrows, wings, camouflage coats, figure it out
youre barely literate and you pull talking points out of your ass
youre a retard
once again you see how those seething about cats always get their posts deleted. It's because they spam crush torture videos all over /gif/ and /b/ then come here and pretend to have morals. clearly disliking cats is on par with being a mentally fucked insane person
No it’s because they also shitposted in /dog/. It’s long been known that Wauf‘s outdoor cat haters are indoor cat fags who also hate dogs. Since bugguy, at least.
99% of the time someone is telling you to keep your cat inside they own a cat and despise dogs and dog owners.
Literally saw one get merced just the other week. Tried crossing the busiest road in town, and the first car did not even slow down.
If you live out in a field, I get it. People who let them run loose when they live in an urban area are fucking retarded.
Have you ever heard of an outdoor cat, moron?
I think cats being able to play outside in the neighborhood is fine as long as you have gotten them spayed and neutered. Feral cats in Hawaii have turned into invasive species and started decimating a lot of the local fauna. Obnoxious cat fags try hard to prevent the needful from being done. Once the invasive species wipes out all it food, it will go as well. So it better to off them, then end up with nothing.
Where do I find laws on what I can do about cats in my yard
there's pretty much are none, it would go to claims court if they had an issue with it so long as it's not cruel or things like kill traps which you could probably still get away with but you'd have to look up state regs on "fur trapping" since falls more under hunting than vermin removal and everything related to hunting is litigious and taxed.
Unless you literally shoot them they can't exactly prove or even know who poisoned them
Subhuman behavior
Superhuman behavior
Based savior of the ecosystem undoing human damage.
Why don't you start by killing yourself if you're so concerned about "human damage?"
kill self = prevent 100 damage
kill everything else = prevent 1 gorillion damage
still using "muh ecosystem" as a cope when everyone knows you are just a creepy weirdo, probably got a harddrive full of animal abuse vids
>I don't care about the ecosystem so nobody can!
I already posted the content of one of my nestboxes. I have every reason to want your cats out of my fucking garden.
>schizo chud catgay on suicide watch spamming thread with muh iq to protect her precious ip count
>rent free
>buzzwords that make no sense in this context
>being this new
Okay hypocrite
Do you know what the funny thing about cat owners is? They leave the thing outside, and give it a lifespan of 5 years because it'll die of hunger or exposure, or get lost or run over, because they think the domestic cat is an outdoor animal when in reality it's the same shit as leaving your dog out; sure, it'll survive, but not its natural lifespan. You're dooming the animal you SUPPOSEDLY LOVE AND CARE FOR to die of exposure, disease or injury and never come home one day.
You're retarded and even if you didn't care about wildlife, if you cared about cats, you wouldn't do this.
>You're retarded and even if you didn't care about wildlife
The retardation of people who don't care about wildlife is a given
Did you know people let their kids swim in pools when they kill more children than guns? How fucking irresponsible.
My cockatiel got eaten by a wild cat when it got out. If there were no feral cats it probably would've lasted a night.
He was my best friend. Fuck your cat. Keep it inside or it should get the same fate as my cockatiel. Why should my tiel have to die because of an invasive pest?
Shut the fuck up and keep your bird inside then dumbass. You sound like a fucking woman when it comes to reproductive rights with that solipsistic horseshit.
I don't give a fuck if it was an accident. "Oh, but I was drunk."
The same shit is gonna happen to your cats.
ITT: Subpar IQ plebbiter is absolutely BTFO'd and tries to save face
>too low IQ to make xer point in one post
Absolutely btfo'd. Just stop. Lmao
Samefag too retarded to check poster count. Lol. Lmao
>misanthropic
FFS. just go back to your dilation so actual men can talk
Samefagging cringe. Go cry on your safespace plebbit if you can't handle superior beings btfo'ing you
>I want to remind you one more time that in any crisis you will be the first thing to go. Yes humans damage the environment and subhumans are one of the ways they do, and one they don’t benefit from at all.
Oh, xer mad. Lol. Lmao even. Go dilate on your way back to plebbit so actual humans don't have to read your low IQ subhuman cringe
>imagine coming to a board about animals and nature and REEing about pets
Do low IQ subhumans really?
You too. Back to Plebbit. Dilate some more on your way out.
The same could be said about any non-human species, and when it really comes down to it, I'm sure humans will resort to eating eachother. Not sure what your point is subhuman.
you can't reason with catfags they are unapologetic sociopaths that will try to slide the argument towards killing anyone or anything that isn't a cat. Even if it has nothing to do with killing cats just keeping them out of the larger environment. They will never accept any solution that isn't basically letting the cats have everything. It's why people like the nutter in the OP exist they're a tertiary product of that mentality.
>Cats are pests and so are dogs and neither belongs outside a fence or off its leash
And yet, humans do far more harm than either. Guess your ability to speak and write with comprehensible grammar doesn't take that into consideration.
Nobody cares about ass backwards areas like Australia. Cats do just fine by themselves in places that aren't actively trying to kill all species that inhabit its land.
>If you have a problem with humans, start with yourself
Makes more sense to deal with sub IQ idiots like you though?
>These people only like large dogs for their similarities to adult humans
What cope. Dogs are on the same level as a toddler, MAYBE a teenager, but they are too dumb to be left alone for a week without dying. I like both cats and dogs and enjoy each animal for their differences in companionship. The "only high T men like dogs" is such cringe. Real men don't give a fuck what others think of their pets.
>hur dur cats are an invasive species and harm animal populations
>ignores humans doing far more harm to animal populations than cats could ever hope to achieve
Why are subhumans so pathetically hypocritically retarded?
>literally every single thread about invasive cats has a catfag coming in to deflect toward humans
like fucking clockwork
>no argument
Whatever you say subhuman. Guess you're too low IQ to understand the hypocrisy in bitching about outdoor cats
There is no hypocrisy, or argument to be had because your stance is nonsense. It is a pure deflection that has nothing to do with what is being discussed, or the issue at hand.
Introducing invasive species is part of the harm that humans do to the environment. Cats are in every way a form of anthropogenic environmental damage.
Among the issues we cause it's one of the easiest to reverse on a local level, so there's no reason why we shouldn't do it. It's far easier than removing trash from a river.
>It's far easier than removing trash from a river
I can't even imagine how difficult it is to breathe when your this low IQ
I do both things frequently and can assure you that getting rid of cats is easier.
I can assure you, you're an idiot if you struggle with clearing up trash in a river...but remind me, where does that trash come from?? Could it be...humans? Golly gee, i sure do wonder which species is the worst between the two in hurting the local animal populations....
>I can assure you, you're an idiot if you struggle with clearing up trash in a river
You just revealed that you never cleaned a river in your life.
Removing trash from the water requires a lot of time, preparation, equipment and physical labor.
Removing cats on the other hand is as easy as placing traps in places they usually visit.
Since you do neither of these things, what is your contribution to the environment exactly?
>t. Low IQ subhuman
I like how you ignored where all the trash comes from too. Guess humans really are the worst, especially the low IQ ones like yourself.
Posting misanthropic bullshit logic you found on reddit doesn't change the fact that cats are bad for the local environment. Yeah, humans cause a lot of problems too, but we also have the power to reverse our impact and limit ourselves. You can't teach a cat to not kill specific local birds, and if you can the majority of fat lazy gays like yourself wouldn't bother to do it.
No-one cares about how well introduced pests can do on their own by eating local fauna. The whole argument ITT is about why that's a bad thing you fucking idiots.
>My outdoor cat is 15 years old and still healthy, but if he dies tomorrow due to some outdoor-related thing I'll know he lived a full and happy, species-appropriate life instead of being imprisoned the whole time.
Word. Cats should live by the code of the street.
Your existence is a nuisance but we're all still forced to tolerate it
I honestly love cats but I wouldn't let them outside unattended because they wreak havoc on the local environment. I'm an Ausfag and I've seen this happen in real time, I used to get blue-tongue lizards and bearded dragons in my yard all the time (along with all the Aussie birds you'd expect) but since my former neighbours had cats, they disappeared and haven't come back since they moved out even. Hell, I didn't even get to see those stupid cats since they just ran away from every human. At least the birds have come back since.
Cats should be kept inside as much as dogs are. If you actually like animals and nature then you should take some responsibility and try not to fuck up the environment you're in as much as possible. Otherwise you should GTFO of this board and rope yourself.
On the other hand, I really don't know how people ITT can get off on the idea of killing cats as much as they are. I'd say seek mental help but since we're on Wauf I think you're all lost causes.
>On the other hand, I really don't know how people ITT can get off on the idea of killing cats as much as they are
I never said I enjoy it. It's a responsibility, not a game.
ATTENTION BIRD moronS!!!
birds kill birds and spiders kill birds i dont see you crying about that!!.. just admit you are a psycho.. also im am killing any colorful birds i see with my air rifle every time i spot anti-cat posts.. not because i like cats! but because i hate molested gays with gay obsessions for inanimate objects.. KYS and kill your retarded prison pet..
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=is+stealing+cats+legal
Lmao she's (lady, apparently) not even drowning them or any other kind of sadistic shit. She's releasing them in the wild meaning she's only encouraging a feral cat problem. What a stupid bitch. Absolute retard.
>release cats
>cats die of natural causes
>not punishable by law
she's based and you are retarded.
If she's catching that many cats and then releasing, she is creating a feral colony. She is stupid and you are mentally ill. It is what it is.
She's doing the lords work while avoiding the law. She doesn't give a fuck about feral colonies and just wants them cats out of her lawn.
She's based and you're retarded.
Where do you live, bro? I'll pay you a couple of therapy visits. You need it.
Relocating other people's property IS illegal.
If you habitually let a cat roam free it’s not your property.
If it's on your property you're well within your lawful right to move it off your property
>Feed cat with explosives
>trap triggers it
Bye bye dog loser.
While I completely agree with your view on outdoor cats, people like in this Craigslist pic are fucking mental and will use any excuse to satisfy the needs of their faulty wiring.
I'd bet he's one of those people that look normal on the outside but you quickly find out they're from another world after a 10 second conversation.
I live in a relatively rural area and everyone nearby has dogs and everyone's dogs escape on occasion to play in the woods or run to a neighbors to play with their dogs, few years back we had a guy move into a trailer on less than half an acre of land and the first thing he did was post on the local area facebook that any dogs that crossed onto his property he will shoot to kill.
That kicked off a mini shitstorm in and into itself but within about a week or so people noticed he was setting hamburgers out in his yard across from his window with a rifle barrel sticking out of the window.
All in all I think the man lived around here for about 2 or 3 months, he gtfo after he shot someone's dog with a 22 in the back leg and the owner, his brothers, a few buddies, and various others from in the area showed up at his house to beat him.
source?
this isn't just something you made up in your head is it?
>beat
So, that's it? Several people show up to beat him. No lynching, no shooting, no stabbing?
Fake as fuck. That style of meth head isn't going to give a shit about some boomers in a minivan showing up to cry about their mutts. He'd turn the barrel on them.
I'm relatively respectable, and I kill any dog that comes on my property because of my livestock. Best believe if you start bitching about your fucking mutt in my yard my side is gonna itch above my piece real quick so you can catch a glint.
normal people don't care what cats do and live their life
I don't know why, but I really want to see the news story about this. The guy is literally still making these posts
https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/belgrade-neighbors-react-after-online-post-threatens-cats
Because it IS accepted. Just like livestock bees are allowed to go onto your property, sting you, steal from your property to produce a product without paying you anything and all of this is legal.
Imagine people would do that with other type of livestock, it wouldn't be acceptable. But with bees it IS.
retard take
cats arent livestock
bees are integral to the global supply
cats actively contaminate it
This. Cats are not necessary or helpful and never have been. They do not reduce rodent populations, they are not a food source, they do not pollinate flowers. They kill birds and small lizards and shrews that are prolific bug eaters resulting in an INCREASE in pest populations
inb4 chairman mao declares birds pests and starves china again
So if the cats were killed and sold as meat you would accept even moe of them? Doubt it. I sure don't.
If you raised cats as livestock for their meat you sure as hell would avoid them going out unsupervised.
The amount of butthurt from toxozombies in this thread is hilarious. Please, continue seething.
Some good ol' mob violence against this kind of anti social weirdos. Like in the good times.
also normalize burning cats in the street
like in the good times
In the good ol times if you owned one of these satanic familiars you were an anti-social weirdo. My parents recounted throwing rocks at cats, their parents drowning them, and a general dislike for them as a useless and dirty animal for childless women that were probably lesbians. Farmers also generally did not use cats because traps removed the whole rat/mouse from the premises instead of spreading its guts around and did so at a higher rate.
Today society is ran by childlless gays and they call themselves country and start cartoonish hobby farms often involving “barn cats”. Barn cats are like barn owls, an incidental pest that moves in, but they eat less mice.
Imagine how catgays were treated back when their pests were considered bad omen and associated with black magic
Cats were counterculture for people trying to be different at every level of society. Neutering and indoor cats were not widespread so “cats belong outside” was a cope for how obnoxious and dirty they were. The modern equivalent is unironically domesticated foxes.
The modern equivalent are still cats
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Chained fish
Outdoor cat owners have no argument.
You shorten the lifespan of a dumb animal and predispose it to suffering.
You inconvenience others.
You spread filth and disease.
Yes, you, not your cat. Something with half the brainpower of a chihuahua has no agency. It’s your farm equipment, keep it on your own land.
I do not hate cats. My own cat used to be someone’s outdoor cat, but he’s indoors only now and is reaching the ripe age of 20 that few to no outdoor cats enjoy. I hate the lazy morons that think their tiny helpless cats belong outside when their natural place in the world is being eaten by larger predators.
>their tiny helpless cats
Not very smart, are you?
A housecat is a 10-20lb low tier predator and domestication only made them weaker and dumber. Most notably domestication nearly wipes out the fight or flight instinct and makes them unlikely to survive for long. They are food for owls, falcons, every canine larger than a fox, and bigger cats. And they are so inept they can not handle adult rats and have less than half the successful hunts as their wild cousins. So yes they are tiny and pretty helpless. They’re prey animals as well as predators.
If you let them outside intentionally you are guilty of neglectful behavior and animal abuse. I regularly help animal control with the outdoor cat problem by renting live catch traps and sending the results to the shelter. Collars removed.
If you let your cat outside and it is able to leave your property line and line of sight you are on the intellectual, moral, and ethical level of a dogfucker and I don’t consider you a fully developed human being.
>tl;dr
>plebbit spacing
If you can't make your point in a few sentences, it's probably not worth listening to.
>so flustered he cant even type
>spewing racist insults at random
Another toxofag, another can of special tuna.
>I know, they're my cat's food
Nah, this is
You have to be 18 to post here anon
Anglos, francs, and germans have never been fond of cats and historically they were pets for losers and weirdos like ferrets and foxes are today. Cat worship is an african and arab thing.
Nah, some of the most revered intellects in our history(white of course) have commented on their preference for companionship with cats. You can cope all you'd like to feel more white if you think hating cats makes it so lmao
HP lovecraft was neither revered nor an intellectual. When I go down the list of successful scientists, I find all pets in surprisingly equal proportion, and little preference for anything.
Cats are preferred by literary “intellects”, of course, being failures/weirdos who contribute nothing to society. Like attracts like. The cat is the author’s pet. When the muses speak, chuck that furball outside and forget about it for years at a time!
>HP lovecraft was neither revered
The fact you even know his name proves you wrong. Regardless if you think he's worth his salt.
>When I go down the list of successful scientists, I find all pets in surprisingly equal proportion, and little preference for anything
Okay? Still dispoves the notion that cats are the shitskins' choice of pet
>Cats are preferred by literary “intellects”, of course, being failures/weirdos who contribute nothing to society
Contradicts the post you just made about scientists, but alrighty
>When the muses speak, chuck that furball outside and forget about it for years at a time!
It's like you don't even appreciate the role of the muse in society. Oh well, to be expected from someone that hates cats for no real reason
Infamous != revered
The fact that you failed to understand basic English vocabulary off the bat tells me you are too stupid to converse with. A cursory look over the rest of your post reveals you have the reading skills of a 5 year old. You clearly have no knowledge of the world and its cultures, no conception of history, and no capacity for critical thought or ethical behavior.
In short, you are subhuman.
>straight to argumentum ad baculum
You write so much to say nothing with the false premise of being intellectually superior, in short, you're a shitskin. Thanks for playing though (:
I accept your concession.
You're the samefag? Lol. Lmao. Explains a lot.
BTFOing you once was not enough.
Is that what you consider BTFOing? Lol. Lmao even.
You aren’t smart enough to realize how wrong you are.
>no argument
Concession. Accepted. Don't (You) me anymore monkey, but we both know you don't have the impulse control not to. Lmao.
Hp lovecraft is gnomish not white.
Where did anyone say he was white?
Cats are not native to North America and their stinking shit does not belong in this soil. Keep it in your lawn or find out how retarded dog owners feel when they gace the consequences for using range area as a dog park.
>BUT MUH HECKIN CATWIFE ISNT THAT BAD ACTUALLY SHES HELPING
I dont care. If you want me to take care of your animals i charge $36 an hour and consider 8 hours of each day work by default. Otherwise on my property = won’t be for long.
personally i only trap cats in my garden
and then drown them in the lake
>more projection
why are toxogays such retards
catgays are the dumbest retards in existence and this thread proves it
Fuck dogmorons
Total oxymoron. Dogs hate black people.
My husky is a voracious cat hunter and if anyone messes with him for it I will make his efforts look like a joke.
You’ve been warned. Your cat stays on your lawn or it gets the same treatment as a stray dog. Cats shit and piss on everything and leave piles of bird guts everywhere, and their lazy gay owners dont even offer to clean it up. I had 0 cats in the neighborhood at one point and didnt see or trap a single rat, and then the cat lady moved in. The shit, corpses, and bowls of cat food attract rats and help them breed. Now my traps catch 5-10 rats a night and my husky is even catching them there’s so many. All from the cat lady’s overgrown cat infested property.
>cat hunter
>husky
Eating own shit doesn't count as hunting
It's not wild if you provide food for them you moronmutt
>It's not wild if you provide food for them you moronmutt
An organism is either wild, captive or introduced.
The birds in my land aren't captive, they're free to come and go. I also didn't introduce them here, they're part of a native population. The birds are therefore wild, doesn't matter if I leave seeds for them.
>The cats in my land aren't captive, they're free to come and go. I also didn't introduce them here, they're part of a native population. The cats are therefore wild, doesn't matter if I leave birds for them.
Retard
>I also didn't introduce them here
Yes you did.
I didn't get them from a store or another person. They showed up like the feral cuties they are. Cope
Then they're not yours.
Just like the birds aren't your's. I never made the claim the cats were mine. Read slower.
The birds in my land are wild, domestic cats without owners are considered feral.
I have every right to dispose of feral pests in my garden. If you care about their wellbeing you should adopt them and keep them safe within the parameters of your property.
>The cats in my land are wild, domestic birds without owners are considered feral. I have every right to dispose of feral birds in my garden. If you care about their wellbeing you should adopt them and keep them safe within the parameters of your property
>domestic birds without owners are considered feral
Good thing the birds in my garden are not domestic.
>I have every right to dispose of feral birds in my garden
You can do whatever you want with your land for all I care, fill it with cats, turn it into a dumpster, turn it into a minefield. But if your shit (like cats) leaks into my garden I'll do what I want with it.
>Good thing the cats in my land are not domestic
>You can do whatever you want with your land for all I care, fill it with birds, turn it into a dumpster, turn it into a minefield. But if your shit (like birds) leaks into my garden I'll do what I want with it.
>You can do whatever you want with your land for all I care
So what's your problem?
Who said I had a problem? You can do what you want, doesn't mean i can't call out your idiocy.
You're not calling out anything, you're just demonstrating that you don't know the difference between wild and feral over and over.
Whatever you say bird brain. Keep your feral birds outta my yard
the birds outside don't suddenly become domesticated simply because I set out a bird feeder
>Why do normies think it's acceptable to have their cats running around on other people's property?
Because they only care about themselves and can't be bothered to take care of their cat or clean its litterbox so they let it run around the neighborhood and shit in people's yards and spread fleas everywhere.
Because it was accepted as normal for a long time
because everyone lived in small ass rural town where nobody cared that their yard smells of cat poop because their farm animals smelled 10 times worse
>their yard smells of cat poop
You'd need a clowder to actually be able to have enough poop building up in your yard to notice a smell lmao.
Cats should mostly roam outside, however with the extreme weather heat of modern times, they can to enter any warm places where they can stay well even if it's not the owner house
I believe animals should live and die naturally that is why i have a pack of pitbulls that were all surrendered for attacking cats. I used to have huskies, but they only attack when the cats run, plus someone chucked all these pitbulls over my fence and the huskies beat them up and left to go fuck their girlfriends.
river rock is a wealthy suburb development less than a mile away from farmland, people who eat out of their backyard, and several businesses. rich people let their retarded rescue cats outside right next to the 3 people that are most likely to be angry about animals. because you can walk around and see into almost every backyard it’s probably not someone in the suburb but a classic case of a massive
>not our problem
>NOOOO DONT MAKE IT OUR PROBLEM
>an animal half as smart as a chihuahua will be perfect and never get into trouble
irresponsible
Daily reminder that cats are best pest control and stray dogs will be shot.
Gutless troll post
It’s already a fact that cats don’t control pests. A population that is growing 20% slower is not controlled. Stop sentencing cats to early deaths because you’re too cheap for rat traps.
My cat is not controlling the mice pop of my neighbourhood. Its just making sure the mice choose to go to your house, and not mine lol
If your cat is outside it does the opposite
Barn cats stay in barns yknowat city slicker?
Outdoor cat owners, did you actually not want a pet and decided on the next best thing?
> Feeds itself
> Shits and pisses outside in other peoples gardens so I don’t have a litter box to clean out frequently
> Probably has a second family so I don’t have to take it to a vet or feed it much
> Might get attacked or eaten or run over but I’m willing to pay that price so I don’t have to get an actual pet
I mean, fair play.
>pour oil down the drain
>toss car batteries into the ocean
>get an outdoor cat
I was just the logical next step
The truth is that living with cats actually sucks. They're nice to have around when they're babies but as soon as they grow up they become an insufferable stampede of shit, piss, annoying noises and property damage. Cat owners choose to inflict the stampede upon others and pretend it's normal instead of teaching their vermin how to behave.
Nah man it's just fucking cruel to keep a hunter animal locked up inside that's all
It's not if you have the time and energy to give them outlets for their energy.
There have been more thsn one study thag suggests indoor cats are healthier, mentally and physically, that outdoor cats. Any perceived benefit that outdoor cats get is overruled by the factual benefits of keeping cats indoors.
If you let your cat outdoors everyone loses. Your neighbourhood sucks and smells of cat shit with not even birdsong to offset the sadness. Your cat is more likely to get injured from a million and one things, not to mention diseased. And you never even get to see your damn pet. What is the point?
T. Someone who kept outdoor cats for many years and regrets it.
>There have been more thsn one study thag suggests indoor cats are healthier, mentally and physically, that outdoor cats
Muh heckin studies!!
Are those the same studies that say dry cat food isn't actually bad even though it obviously is if you use your own brain for ten seconds
>Your neighbourhood sucks
Nah I love seeing cats roaming outside it's part of living in a decent quiet neighbourhood instead of in a pod
>and smells of cat shit
Retarded notion, most outdoor cats will still use the litter box or shit in their owners garden, most outdoor cat owners will have one since it's difficult to keep an outdoor cat in an apartment. They also tend to bury their own poop. You'll find a lot more dog poop in your neighborhood since dogs have no other option but to shit outside and most owners don't pick up after them.
>with not even birdsong
Again a retarded notion, towns have had both outdoor cats and birds for millennia and it'll continue that way.
>Your cat is more likely to get injured from a million and one things, not to mention diseased.
Lemme guess, you're triple jabbed and love wearing masks too? My outdoor cat is 15 years old and still healthy, but if he dies tomorrow due to some outdoor-related thing I'll know he lived a full and happy, species-appropriate life instead of being imprisoned the whole time.
>And you never even get to see your damn pet.
The 20+ hours a day it's not outside isn't enough? Practically 24 hours a day in winter.
toxobrain
I see you brainlets have no arguments. Anything else?
what toxo does to a mfer
This. You're not gonna get a dog if you don't have the time to walk it and give it attention yet catcucks get a pass?
Onions: GET THIS CAT AWAY FROM MY PROPERTY AGHHHHHHHH
gigachad: look at the cute kitty in my yard, I'm gonna pet him!
> Love garden birds, and have a soft spot for the idiot wood pigeons
> wake up one morning look outside
> Feathers everywhere in the garden
> Cat sitting on the lawn
> see one of my pigeons flapping about, covered in blood and suffering
> Chase the cat away, grab the pigeon
> Take it to the vet
> On the way there see the SAME FUCKING CAT has killed another pigeon by the road
Was super tempted to find the owner and ask them to come clean up the feathers and blood in my garden.
Also
> pond in garden
> See small animal skirting along the edge
> Realise it’s a water vole
> EXTREMLY rate around here, a delight to see it
> Cat pounces outta nowhere and kills it
> Native species in decline lol
Fuck cats man.
Uhhh voles and pigeons are vermin because they arent infantlike mammals and also voles mess up my heckin grasserino carpet so good riddance
>Oh no a flying rat was killed
Do you feel good when people say this about outdoor cats getting killed?
>oh no my husky ran over another rat with claws on his way to work
He said wood pigeon you moron, it's not the same as the pigeons that live in your urban shithole.
You know what to do anon. .22 rifles are dirt cheap.
Bozeman MT
Cats can be considered an agricultural pest and I guarantee a farmer is doing this.
>but le hunt!
Dogs are even better hunters. Do you want free roaming JRTs shitting on everything? Then why would you want cats shitting in every available patch of loose dirt? Both animals leave corpses, either half eaten or not, laying around as well. Traps and baits for pests are cheaper than the cleanup effort now that its not the 1st century BC. You can tear down your cat and dog god statues.
Half the population truly is retarded.
why even warn people? I feel like that's the only dumb part about this is flaunting it like retard who wants to get sued or harassed by peta. Just keep quiet about it and don't dispose of the carcasses when people can see you.
this
my neighbors think i love and am concerned for their cats so im never a suspect when they get sick or disappear
theres an old man up the street who whinges about them but im pretty sure he doesnt do anything beyond shooing them away but all the retarded neighborhood catgays think hes a serial cat killer lmao
>OH NO, IS THAT A CAT, IN MY YARD, IN MY PROPERTY, NOOOOOOOOOO
Why are americans so autistic about it? The moment you even accidentally touch their yard they start frothing from their mouths
its a problem here in yurop too
this
thankfully in my country killing feral cats is completely legal. and no collar is feral enough for me.
>touching other peoples property
t.gypsy
also liability reasons
I'm Italian. Keep your shit pest out of my garden.
>owls or snakes or wolves do NOT live in freaking metropolitan cities or human towns
Lol
You actually think this.
Coyotes do a lot better in cities than wolves, but the wolves can do it too.
https://wilderness-society.org/the-wolves-return-to-the-city-of-rome/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/may/20/urban-beasts-how-wild-animals-have-moved-into-cities
>Wolves have taken up residence in parts of suburban Germany as densely populated as Cambridge or Newcastle. The highest density of peregrine falcons anywhere in the world is New York; the second highest is London, and these spectacular birds of prey now breed in almost every major British city. And all kinds of wild deer are rampaging through London, while also taking up residence everywhere from Nara in Japan to the Twin Cities of the US.
>coyotes killed another one of my neighbor's cats
>he's lost 3 in the 2 years I've been here
at this point he is basically just feeding them
>buddy has this cat that leaves the house from time to time
>cat gets pretty depressed if it stays cooped up
>generally speaking, the cat bails for maybe a day or two then pops up by the backdoor
>one instance however, cat ends up leaving for like 2 weeks
>my buddy is legitimately worried
>ends up asking the neighbors if they've seen the cat
>check security footage around the neighborhood
>cat was spotted a week ago just chilling with another cat
>fucking MIA after that
>friend says fuck it, if he shows he shows
>about another week passes, cat finally comes back home
>little dude has battle scars and a thousand yard stare
>nothing serious but he definitely got in it with something
>respect
>blah blah blah
>im an irresponsible animal abuser
>respect
hows your safe zone, anon?
safe? mongrel
because normies are braindead retards and also don't give a shit about nature or wildlife
should be open season on cat owners too
The cat goes outside because it deserves to enjoy its life. I can't control where they go once they get out, and trust me I've tried.
I have a neighbourhood cat that mogs me every morning by shitting in my front yard, but I don't care, let the kitties play I say. Seriously, just look how chuffed she is to be lazin out in the sun amongst the snakes and lizards. Look this kitty in the eyes and tell her she can't go out and play any more, I dare you
>amongst the snakes and lizards
dead snakes and lizards the cat killed for fun*
The pitbull goes outside because it deserves to enjoy its life. I can't control where they go once they get out, and trust me I've tried.
I have a neighbourhood pitbull that mogs me every morning by assaulting me, but I don't care, let the pitties play I say. Seriously, just look how chuffed she is to be lazin out in the sun amongst the snakes and lizards. Look this pitty in the eyes and tell her she can't go out and play any more, I dare you
Pitbulls won't attack human children that take tens of thousands of dollars and just as many hours to raise up even to a young age. There's a difference. The cat will also not hard the elderly. Pitbulls are a threat to man, cats agree with man's passivity.
Cats are a serious problem for local bird, reptile and amphibian populations. From a pragmatic and ecological standpoind wildlife is infinitely more important than your dumb pest, so trapping/poisoning cats is the most logical option.
Low IQ post
The post is meant to address the two following fallacious arguments:
>it should be outside because it deserves to enjoy life regardless of consequences!
>I don't care, look at its cute eyes! how can you say no??
By applying them to a pitbull, it highlights how nonsensical these points are, because they have no real argument behind them.
If I saw that running around my neighborhood id shoot it.
*amongst the babies and small pets
i hope your parents suffer some life altering injury, maybe even death
I mean it's guaranteed that they'll face death, so that's kind of a weird and redundant thing to wish for
is it fear that makes you lash out? it probably rattles you a bit that there are people that don't have any qualms with hurting you for your behavior.
and it would be your fault, because it's your behavior that caused it. sure, they might get in trouble. but you might not even live.
>cat owners
it's more so about animals in general, not so much cats. but you only really see these males that believe they're tough or something talking about cats i guess.
there's the monyet psychos too. but that's a whole different breed. well, different in a way i guess. but i shoot them just as easily, and feel as about as little for having done it.
>is it fear that makes you lash out?
Nope, I have nothing to fear. I'm legally allowed to place poison in my yard for vermins and I don't know how anyone is gonna find out that their cat died because of the poison from my yard since it takes quite a few hours before the poison is metabolized and starts having an effect.
You are fantasizing about killing people for removing feral fucking invasive species from their privately owned land and calling them psychopaths.
Agreed, this is just someone being as much of a psychopath as the law will allow him - and actively looking up that line
I honestly think it's weird that people let their cats run around outside unsupervised but wouldn't even THINK of doing the same with their dogs.
There needs to be a cultural shift where we start treating cats and dogs with equal responsibility.
Dogs can bite a person to death.
Cats, at most, will leave a few scratches
they'll fuck up most other animals out there though
As long as you keep them inside at night and put bells on them so other animals are alert to them before they pounce they're really only gonna be able to catch bugs and the odd snake or skink (I usually save them before they get seriously injured). There's a responsible way to let your cats outside, and despite how simple that is some people still don't give enough of a shit to do that.
but even still, you're not going to stop them from going into a neighbour's yard. Unless they have dogs of course lol
those bells don't help jack shit and cats hunt during daytime too
Not my problem.
It's your problem when you cat ends up shot or eaten
a) not American or true-rural so no-one has guns
b) there aren't really any predators that could take a cat in my country besides dingos, wedgies and coconut crabs; none of which live anywhere near me
Australia has licensed cat hunters with guns. They shoot them on sight. No microchip checks.
Yeah but not in my suburb they don't
cats learn how to silence the bells when they are hunting. it also wont help animals that physically cant escape, like baby birds
>Cats, at most, will leave a few scratches
Not after that based craigslist poster is done with them. 😉
So it's ok to let small dogs run around unsupervised
If they're unlikely to harm people, yes it's fine.
Cats are much more conflict avoidant than dogs. Dogs are all about showing dominance and creating a hierarchy. And they happen to do that by being aggressive.
Cats on the other hand would rather just stay the fuck out of each other's ways unless it can't be avoided.
Cats fight other animals and aggressively pursue fights even if neuteted, and so do otherwise human-friendly dogs. In fact, cats are exceptionally good at it. A cat could beat any sane dog in a fight and they only die if they run (dogs are faster) or run into a pitbull.
https://icatcare.org/advice/aggression-between-cats/
>As a self-reliant species and solitary hunter, the cat avoids physical conflict as a threat to survival, as any overt fighting could cause injury, inability to hunt and consequently death. The cat’s communication system: vocalisation, body posture, facial expression, scent marking, is used primarily to avoid conflict and diffuse tension, however, fighting will occur if the particular circumstances dictate that as the only option or even possibly when the aggressor is confident that the opponent will not retaliate.
lol nah, cats are morons and get into fights constantly when too many of them are too close together. Which can happen easily in a suburban neighbourhood.
Cats are highly aggressive badasses and fight frequently. One fight a night for every 50 hissfests is technically “infrequently” and “preferring to avoid conflict” but its still one fight a night.
>icatcare.org
Cats wipe out almost all small endemic life wherever they are released
My dog would never bite a person. Only a cat.
People let their dogs run loose in rural areas then cry about coyotes killing them
Well that's on them
I think most people are smart enough not to let their dogs run around loose though, especially not in urban areas
People need to have the same mentality with cats, but they just don't
I let my dog out to roam but he doesn't want to. He just wants to hang out with me
come to south America if you want to see how that works out.
Kek, In my rural village in Europe dogs wander around where they want too
Shoo shoo, Albo, humans are talking
In my village in rural america the poorest retards do the same but aggressive ones also get shot immediately. theres a pyrenees that doesnt let anyone touch his herd of turkeys, two malamutes that sleep on random porches, and a fat lab that eats everything all visible from one hilltop.
pitbull population 0
Same here, and people who are fed up with them leave meatballs with extra ingredients in them outside of their homes. Works like a charm.
Cats are an issue since they kill the local fauna, but are overall not a threat to humans.
If you have dogs running around they'll start forming packs, ravaging through trash, fighting among each other, etc. and are also dangerous to humans, like if you saw a pitbull or worse, a pack of pitbulls ahead on the road you'd turn back, but a pack of cats isn't as big of a threat
>pack of cats isn't as big of a threat
Their parasites and diseases are
Lol, go to a shitty urban or rural area. Packs of feral dogs SUCK.
Cats throught history were just way more independent than dogs, so they just fend for themselves much better
1. Dogs get randomly excited by something and lose their way home way more easily than cats, who almost always find their way back.
2. Cats are much more weary and keep themselves off danger. Dogs go full retardo and get run over by cars a lot more.
Cats need to be outdoors actually. If you keep your cat locked in between the walls of your home (or even worse, your fucking apartment) you might as well be an animal abuser honestly
Cats are happier inside, but cat owners aren’t happier with cats inside, so they say this retarded shit.
Many dog breeds are more self sufficient as well and do as well if not better than cats, and historically dogs had the run of the town, but people still keep them inside now because animals suck at comprehending how fast cars move and the world is full of people that dont give a fuck if your pet dies or will gladly make it happen. Cat owners it seems would rather their pets die than use their own litterbox and require hours of daily owner-cat interaction outside of petting.
>cats are happier inside
Absolute nonsense. Ive had cats my entire life and they 100% need a healthy social life to be happy. The few times my cats had no other cats to socialize with, i instantly saw the huge difference it made for them when they finally had other cats around.
I guess its less cruel if you keep MULTIPLE cats cooped up, but ill refer to the fact that cats never once through history lived indoors, and to my own expecience with cats, to make my judgement,and not to some dubious study by the shilltank that you choose to sell you onions today
You’re just a shitty cat owner. You probably didn’t even socialize them as kittens or get a pair (mandatory, like Guinea pigs).
Mexicans say the same shit about their free roaming outdoor dogs, but a good dog owner can have an indoor dog be better behaved and socialized, and of course, healthier and longer lived.
I didnt own them as kittens. All my cats are former strays
>i wont believe any studies thats soi
but you will believe studies when they prove pitbulls are more violent or blacks are [redacted]
Because my dog could kill a child.
My cat doesn't go up and attack or harass people. Only reason you'd be bothered by him is shit. If someone had a lose dog and all I had to deal with was shit I'd be fine (there's enough wildlife shit anyways you can't tell the difference). If he wants near me he's dead, doesn't matter if he's nice or not.
Not to mention if someone kills my outside cat, it's my fault for being a bad owner. I will not blame them. You want to risk your dog?
Why do you think it's unacceptable?
Not OP but your neighborhood is not a solution for your lack of responsibility and time investment into your own pet's physical and mental stimulation. It would be like me buying a car without space to park it, so I just park it on your driveway.
Genuinely curious what you think the harm is in having a cat stroll around freely, besides killing small animals
>whats the harm besides an example of harm?
Animals killing animals is nature.
I want to know why you, big dominant animal that has nothing to fear from a small feline, are so bothered by roaming cats.
It'd be understandable that you'd be pissed if you were a small, weak, disease carrying rodent. But you're not.
So what's the issue
theres nothing natural about domestic animals killing wildlife
retard
>wildlife
>a place occupied by humans
Kek
imagine being smug about living in some vermin infested shithole devoid of nature
cat people deserve it i guess
oh no humans are present time for everything to die except for cats, dogs, pigeons, rats, ants, cockroaches, flies, and wasps.
sure those birds and snakes were nice and ate bugs but humans are here so they should die sooner so the cute kitties and doggies can eat organic food
Stray pets, cat or dog, spread disease and filth and mostly kill more fragile and beneficial bird populations. Despite cats fucking everywhere rodent populations only grow without direct human intervention and all cats do is make them less bold. There are studies showing mice instinctively adapt to the presence of cats in 2 months instead of just avoiding the area entirely.
Stray pets also attack domestic pets and lets be honest, its mostly sad watching lazy people get their pets killed and allow litter after litter be born to die because they think an animal with an IQ score of 2 appreciates the outdoors instead of just “mental stimulation”. Fuck, large dogs are probably way more cognizant of their captivity than cats and small dogs, which is why we bred them to be so clingy.
Cat shit in my vegetable patch.
Good for the vegetables
Wtf is in his brain?
Slimer
LOL you cant be this stupid to enjoy eating feces parasites
No, cat feces (even without mentioning toxo) is too acidic for vegetables and cats digging will hurt the roots.
Genuinely curious why you think your moron cat should get a free pass over shitting all over my property but not every single other small sized animal, and not only that, I shouldn't be allowed to kill it or trap it.
Because my moron cat is cute and fluffy and gives teh good cuddles
their piss stinks and they shit where they please, t hey kill local fauna and scream at night you are fucking retarded
>their piss stinks
Only if they're a tomcat
>and they shit where they please
They always cover up their shit, doubt you'd even notice unless you actively watched them shit
>they kill local fauna
You don't give a shit and doubtful you even notice the "local fauna"
>and scream at night
If they're feral or not fixed, sure
>you are fucking retarded
Ignorance is no excuse for your inability to learn dumb dumb
>projection projection projection
the toxo is strong with this one
>Only if they're a tomcat
No, all cat piss stinks. Maybe you don't notice it because every inch of your house is drenched in it, but normal people can't stand it.
>They always cover up their shit
I don't want their shit in my garden and woodshed whether it's covered up or not.
>You don't give a shit and doubtful you even notice the "local fauna"
Not only I give a shit, I actively tend to it as well. Pic related, one of my nest boxes.
>If they're feral or not fixed, sure
Most cats aren't fixed. I don't want it around either way.
I remove cats because it's part of normal maintenance for a gardener. Trapping or poisoning cats is no different from trimming hedges or removing tree suckers.
>Maybe you don't notice it because every inch of your house is drenched in it
Why would it be drenched in it when my cat pisses and shits in your yard?
>I don't want their shit in my garden and woodshed whether it's covered up or not
You must hate all those other fauna shitting and pissing in your yard too...oh wait
>Not only I give a shit, I actively tend to it as well. Pic related, one of my nest boxes.
Make sure they dont piss and shit in my yard you gay
>Most cats aren't fixed. I don't want it around either way
Feel free to do away with the feral ones. Most cat owners fix their cats so they don't deal with all the crap you bitch about
>Why would it be drenched in it when my cat pisses and shits in your yard?
Cats only come to my yard once.
>You must hate all those other fauna shitting and pissing in your yard too...oh wait
I don't. Unlike the birds, hedgehogs etc that live in my garden cats eat a lot of garbage that then contaminates the soil. Besides, in my garden I'm free to have as many double standards as I wish.
>Make sure they dont piss and shit in my yard you gay
Not my problem. Those are wild birds, they're not mine. They simply chose my garden to build their nest.
>Feel free to do away with the feral ones
I feel free to remove all of them.
>Cats only come to my yard once
Nah, my cat's been in your yard mutliple times to shit in it
>Unlike the birds, hedgehogs etc that live in my garden cats eat a lot of garbage that then contaminates the soil.
So you know nothing about cats, gotcha
>Besides, in my garden I'm free to have as many double standards as I wish
So long as you know you're a retarded hypocrite
>Not my problem.
Not mine either since my cat takes care of them and keeps them from shitting in my yard
>Those are wild birds, they're not mine. They simply chose my garden to build their nest.
They're not wild if you "actively tend to it as well" lmao. Fucking retard.
>I feel free to remove all of them
I'm sure you do big guy (: like the feral shitskin you are
>So you know nothing about cats, gotcha
Your outdoor toxorat is eating your neighbours' garbage when you're not looking.
>They're not wild if you "actively tend to it as well" lmao
Yes they are. I don't hold them captive, I create habitat and give them easy access to food and water. They're not my animals.
>they're not wild because... they just aren't, OK????
smartest catmoron
I'm coming to your nest boxes to kill all your gay birds gay
blatant toxobrain lies
>Only if they're a tomcat
thats just fucking wrong
>They always cover up their shit, doubt you'd even notice unless you actively watched them shit
why would you actively admit to watching cat shit and then be wrong? youve never owned a cat have you?
>You don't give a shit and doubtful you even notice the "local fauna"
i am on an for a reason, i birdwatch and collect insects shut the fuck up
>If they're feral or not fixed, sure
no they still scream
Kill your self toxobrained furmoron
Seems a subhuman got offended and outted themselves for knowing nothing about cats. Typical.
the funniest is when they cry about the plight of their "beloved family member"
seriously what kind of monster kicks their beloved retard iq family member out to fend for itself in the wild?
as someone who actually loves and cares for my pets i find this notion offensive and i can only assume you dont really love or care that much about your cat
My cat was a stray and hated being inside all the time. It wanted to go hunt mice and shit around the neighborhood then come home for dinner and being coddled. Why the fuck do you care if a cat walks across your yard? It's about as retarded as getting angry if some eight year old cuts across your lawn
>It wanted to go hunt mice and shit
nah, it wanted to go kill dozens of small animals for fun and that's what it did. why are catfags too retarded to understand this?
>mice and shit
>not small animals
Oh no it's retarded
>why is letting invasive pest kill native wildlife bad
catfags are the only retards here
I guarantee you half the song birds population where you live are not native themselves
Yeah cause cats killed the native songbirds, retard
>cats are equal to children
i hate fags like you
eight year olds damage lawns if they constantly walk across it, go be a citymoron elsewhere
>damage lawns
Who gives a fuck
spoken like a true citymoron
>Why the fuck do you care if a cat walks across your yard?
Because it shits on my food, pisses on my firewood, hunts the small wildlife I garden for, forces me to shovel its body away when it dies and generally looks and sounds annoying.
You have no right to impose your shit pest on me.
>hunts the small wildlife I garden for
Imagine getting mogged by a house car lmao. Gg gay
What do you mean? I have all I need to quickly remove cats from my land.
>he has to remove cats because he's shit at gardening and hunting
wtf is a house car?
>he doesn't own a house car
Tell me you're a city cuck without telling me you're a ciry cuck
>City folk don't even have a house car for getting around indoors.
Truly cucked
If the eight year old took a shit in my garden every day I would indeed get angry. You stupid gay
>seriously what kind of monster kicks their beloved retard iq family member out to fend for itself in the wild?
Obligatory "boomers" response
So which website did you frequent before you decided to stink up 4ch?
outdoor cat having neighbours are the best, the one year we didn't have a neighbour with an outdoor cat we had mice around
My dogs chased off all of them and still no mice
I just never had anywhere for the mice to live because I’m not a slob
Having mice around has nothing to do with being a slob. If you live rural enough, there will be mice.
You would know this if you weren't a cityfag.
Is the expanse of forest, plains, trailer parks, and railroad between libby and butte rural enough for you? i never sacrificed a cat to the rodent gods and was able to keep mice and rats away with basic hygiene and $1 plastic buckets. The ratting cat is an old world myth probably based on wildcat hybrids being more effective hunters. The US doesnt have anything as ballsy as european wildcats. Bobcats are very shy and dont mate with housecats.
Dogs are much better at killing unwanted animals and historically people have used dogs for the task
I know. Trained dogs that were deployed temporarily instead of left to roam.
I called ratting cats a myth.
i live on acreage with no cats and never had a mouse problem
dogs are much better than cats at catching mice/rats
cats just play with their prey and kill for fun, they also keep killing other innocent animals instead of their main target
Hygienic farming practices and not living in a pile of garbage are better for rodent control than cats. Pick up your scrap piles, clean out the clutter in your out buildings, stop dumping animal feed out in the open, and use some steel wool and spray foam to fill the holes in your house. I’ve got two cats which are the most winsome and adaptable of the barn cat colony I inherited when I bought the place, but the 10+ cats that were here when I bought the place didn’t control the rodents (and their food was probably a significant contributor to that population)
Mus musculus is not the only mouse species in the countryside. Other species will arrive as long as there's grass and soil.