Humans never caused a single mass extinction in Eurasia and North America until modern times.
All the megafauna we lost was killed off by shifting climates and habitats.
Before modern man the only humans that caused significant biodiversity loss were Australian aboriginals.
>like Eurasians and Americans did?
because they didn't.
Fuck the overkill theory and fuck all the retards who still perpetuate it. PaleoAmericans have been confirmed the Americas since at least 23,000 and new finds may push that back as far as 37,000 years.
The extinction event was caused by a comet.
We evolved alongside african megafaune, therefore they were already aware of our collective shittiness and knew to stay far away from us or even actively hunt us if we got to close.
North American wildlife had no idea what we were when we turned up, that and the fact that climate change at the end of the last ice age hit them much harder than southern megafauna. So they had much less time to adapt to our hunting strategies inbetween the Earth actively wanting to kill them too.
A combination of climate change, the animals not evolving alongside humans and therefore not being as wary of them and Africans generally being less intelligent.
Honest answer? A combination of factors, the largest of which was the Younger Dryas climate event (my money's still on a fragmenting comet strike setting half of North America on fire, explaining the Younger Dryas boundary field), the second being H. Sapiens spreading around the globe at around the same time. The other thing to remember is some of these animals haven't even been dead that long. Mammoths we're still around when the pyramids were being built.
african animals coevolved with early humans and hominids and were adapted to live along them, eurasian and american ones weren't. Kind of like animals isolated on islands for too long get wiped out by non native predators
This, and also because of disease. Tsetse fly and similar disease spreaders did a great job preventing humans from going hog-wild with agriculture and ranching, and also killed a lot of people keeping populations in check, which enabled some ecosystems to remain in pretty good condition until now.
Meme answer: Animals outside of Africa and South Asia were not adapted to human hunting and thus were hunted to extinction
Supreme Answer: climate change killed the megafauna in the more climatically turbulent continents
Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beam Answer: Africa and South Asia are large tracts of almost entirely tropical land, with tropical land being more ecologically stable, biologically diverse and consistently resourceful than temperate and polar places. The large size and stable ecology of Africa and South Asia provided better odds for megafauna survival than in the smaller, unstable continents.
Simply put it is because most people in the world do not view the world as a thing of "value" to be traded for personal gain it is the place on which we most live so it is beyond that sort of value. For a few this isn't so and they invent world wars and capital economy and then force rest of world to join on... Then blame others for using tools they invent to live in hellish world they have created
Probably the only language. As for ancestry, all Europeans are a mix of the early European hunter gatherers, Neolithic farmers from Anatolia, and Yamnaya/Aryans from the steppes on the border of Europe & Asia, though in different proportions.
africa is really big.you could fit all of western europe north america and china and there would still be space to share
and it's sparsely populated even now.
this is the real reason. Big animals had plenty of space to live unbothered by humans
Because African fauna evolve alongside humans so they were used to our bullshit by the time we were Sapiens.
Same with Neanderthals which kinda coexisted with megafauna that only died when Sapiens arrived in Europe which makes right and wrong at the same time.
Only rhinos are endangered and it's due to the foreign demand for their horns.
Also europeans used to be morons and thank god the Sahara served as natural border long enough for them to calm down.
Rip barbary megafauna tho.
Yes, only rhinos are endangered. African wild dogs are critically endangered. But Lions, Elephants, and cheetahs are all threatened and could eventually move down into endangered status.
I expect so. Like people harp on the tragedy of giant, predatory creatures going extinct in modern times but motherfucker if you had to live around lions you would be overjoyed to learn you can just spray them with an AK. The animals that are pleasant to be around or generally capable of cohabitation with humans are the ones that were not driven from civilization entirely by the repeating firearm.
Doubtless many died off for lesser reasons or unintentional cause but animals who can reliably prey on humans are not long for the world. Mountain lions are "shoot on sight" to most people for good cause.
>Mountain lions are "shoot on sight" to most people for good cause.
You pick the pussiest cat next to cheetahs with like 1 confirmed kill a year. They're "shoot on sight" to scared urban monkeys like yourself who are intimidated by anything bigger than their toy lap dogs.
Eurasians and Americans did not genocide their megafauna. Those kinds of extinctions came much later. Anyways africans are dull and failed to domesticate the zebra, people will cope and say its because this creature lives near predators and thus is hostile but the same argument can be made for the europeans whose horses are the results of millennia of effort to buckbreak an animal that at times lived with Lions and Bears for human use. The earliest horses were just as troublesome as Zebras, but for some mysterious reason the African did not accomplish it despite having even more time to churn out at least 1 (one) domesticated breed.
The earliest indo-european speakers are thought to originate from the steppes north of the Black Sea, with some groups heading heading west into the rest of Europe, conquering & bringing their language with them (and note that Celtic languages are Indo-European ones) and others headed west into Central Asia, then south to Iran & India, doing the same conquering & installing their language. Almost all Europeans today have sizeable amounts of these steppe people's DNA (see
https://i.imgur.com/vxXbXE7.png
Probably the only language. As for ancestry, all Europeans are a mix of the early European hunter gatherers, Neolithic farmers from Anatolia, and Yamnaya/Aryans from the steppes on the border of Europe & Asia, though in different proportions.
) alongside early Euro hunter gatherers & anatolian neolithic farmer DNA. Likewise, modern Indians and Iranians are a mix of those steppe peoples and the assorted groups that were living in those areas before the Indo-European speakers came.
>Anyways africans are dull and failed to domesticate the zebra
So did Europeans >There has always been great interest in domesticating and training zebras as riding and harnessing animals. >In the 1760s, French naturalist Buffon believed that zebras could replace horses and there were rumors in Paris that the Dutch had already trained a team of zebras to pull a cart. >The colonial German army in German East Africa was was particularly interested in taming zebras for riding, pack animals, and draught animals.
There was a ~150 year period where hundreds of people from England to Australia tried to domesticate the zebra, to creater a cheaper and disease resistant horse.
But they all failed to make anything more than "look at this zebra that usually doesn't bite me" one-off oddities.
There was also a thing called the automobile that made the whole project kind of pointless.
Anyway having a zebra pull a cart like that is more than any African ever managed. In fact, a cart is more than any African ever managed. In fact, that WHEEL is more than any African ever managed.
Which is fine by the way, not everyone should have the same level of skill. Questions of superiority are pointless. No one would say a goat is superior to a sheep, or a cow superior to a horse. They're just different.
Dispelling such black invention myths however is important, not to put black people "in their place" but to dispel lies and racial agitation from (mostly) those who speak on their behalf as a part of this resurgent anti-white ideology.
The black egyptians were called cushites
The brown egyptians that built the whole kingdom were closer to arabs and there were some celtic and indo aryans that came over on raids
There are very successful african kingdoms that would make better examples because cushite rule marked the decline of egypt. The cushites themselves, for instance, mali, askum, songhai…
Egyptians aren't black and those African empires weren't really that great to be tbh.
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The wealthiest nation in the world at the time, so rich its ruler accidentally bankrupted several kingdoms by casually passing through them, wasn't that great. Keep coping Timmy.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>The wealthiest nation in the world at the time
lol
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Not him, but the statement you just made is correct. It produced nothing of lasting value other than a good story for people to point to when making these kinds of arguments. In fact, doesn't sound so great if bankrupting other countries is all it's known for.
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>wealthiest nation in the world >legacy is an ugly block of sticks and mud
The Malians really squandered their potential to be somebody.
>Anyway having a zebra pull a cart like that is more than any African ever managed
No shit, africans had donkeys, they were the first to domesticate them. Why would they bother domesticating a second inferior animal to pull and carry their stuff?
Were you expecting a "based" from your little circle of 15 year old 4chanjeets?
We come here to discuss animals, not to discuss why a group of shut-in losers whose personalities are somehow uglier than their already horrid faces can't reproduce.
>Names several successes >But they all failed
What? Anyway, 150 years isn't enough to domesticate a species fully. Bigger animals like Aurochs took more time than that, but we have cows now, so zebra domestication isn't impossible.
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>did they live there at the time?
What? Yes, the donkey's ancestors lived in east Africa at the time of their domestication. Genetic and historical evidence confirms this.
Egyptians are certainly closer to Middle Easterners than to Bantu morons
Donkeys were domesticated by Nubians, not Egyptians.
The problem is that zebra and horses have a different social structures >Horses form a herd with a hierarchy, a dominant stallion with its mares and foals >Zebra stay together because it's a good survival strategy against predators, but it's every zebra for themselves
With horses you can exploit the hierarchy by replacing the top horse with a human, but Zebra will always get aggravated since they put themselves at the top and can't be submitted
>Why didn't Africans genocide all their megafauna like Eurasians and Americans did?
Because they were to busy fighting off the mega-megafauna.
Humans never caused a single mass extinction in Eurasia and North America until modern times.
All the megafauna we lost was killed off by shifting climates and habitats.
Before modern man the only humans that caused significant biodiversity loss were Australian aboriginals.
Africans are by nature are mild mannered and good.
Humans weren't invasive there yet. Some megafauna managed to adapt.
>like Eurasians and Americans did?
because they didn't.
Fuck the overkill theory and fuck all the retards who still perpetuate it. PaleoAmericans have been confirmed the Americas since at least 23,000 and new finds may push that back as far as 37,000 years.
The extinction event was caused by a comet.
We evolved alongside african megafaune, therefore they were already aware of our collective shittiness and knew to stay far away from us or even actively hunt us if we got to close.
North American wildlife had no idea what we were when we turned up, that and the fact that climate change at the end of the last ice age hit them much harder than southern megafauna. So they had much less time to adapt to our hunting strategies inbetween the Earth actively wanting to kill them too.
we all know why, it starts with the letter Ñ, all these people that want to compare African civilization to Europeans, Arabs or Asians, kek
africans are lazy
A combination of climate change, the animals not evolving alongside humans and therefore not being as wary of them and Africans generally being less intelligent.
They evolved alongside humans, that's why.
Honest answer? A combination of factors, the largest of which was the Younger Dryas climate event (my money's still on a fragmenting comet strike setting half of North America on fire, explaining the Younger Dryas boundary field), the second being H. Sapiens spreading around the globe at around the same time. The other thing to remember is some of these animals haven't even been dead that long. Mammoths we're still around when the pyramids were being built.
african animals coevolved with early humans and hominids and were adapted to live along them, eurasian and american ones weren't. Kind of like animals isolated on islands for too long get wiped out by non native predators
This, and also because of disease. Tsetse fly and similar disease spreaders did a great job preventing humans from going hog-wild with agriculture and ranching, and also killed a lot of people keeping populations in check, which enabled some ecosystems to remain in pretty good condition until now.
eurasia and africa belong to different dimension in animal population.
Meme answer: Animals outside of Africa and South Asia were not adapted to human hunting and thus were hunted to extinction
Supreme Answer: climate change killed the megafauna in the more climatically turbulent continents
Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beam Answer: Africa and South Asia are large tracts of almost entirely tropical land, with tropical land being more ecologically stable, biologically diverse and consistently resourceful than temperate and polar places. The large size and stable ecology of Africa and South Asia provided better odds for megafauna survival than in the smaller, unstable continents.
Simply put it is because most people in the world do not view the world as a thing of "value" to be traded for personal gain it is the place on which we most live so it is beyond that sort of value. For a few this isn't so and they invent world wars and capital economy and then force rest of world to join on... Then blame others for using tools they invent to live in hellish world they have created
Because they were not hit by the younger Dyas event as hard as Eurasia and America was. This also means that we didn't genocide our megafauna.
because theres literally food all over africa that theres not really a need to actually hunt animals or big animals
also elephants make farming impossible
Despite this, over 90% of Africa was farming by 1AD.
Yeah, you don’t really need to hunt for Red Cross rations.
Arent the basque people the only remaining pre Indoaryan invasion europeans? Or at least their language?
Probably the only language. As for ancestry, all Europeans are a mix of the early European hunter gatherers, Neolithic farmers from Anatolia, and Yamnaya/Aryans from the steppes on the border of Europe & Asia, though in different proportions.
are you not allowed to measure the Aryanness of Germans? lame
africans would rather genocide each other. and who could blame them?
africa is really big.you could fit all of western europe north america and china and there would still be space to share
and it's sparsely populated even now.
this is the real reason. Big animals had plenty of space to live unbothered by humans
lack of firearms
Ineptitude. Note how endangered the African megafauna have become now that the locals have access to whitey's weapons and technology.
Because African fauna evolve alongside humans so they were used to our bullshit by the time we were Sapiens.
Same with Neanderthals which kinda coexisted with megafauna that only died when Sapiens arrived in Europe which makes right and wrong at the same time.
Asspull of the century
how come
>Because African fauna evolve alongside humans
lol, lmao
What? We evolved in africa. I don't care about whatever 4chan pseudo science you have about the Aryan race from europe lol.
You're not even white anyway so it really shouldn't concern you.
Only rhinos are endangered and it's due to the foreign demand for their horns.
Also europeans used to be morons and thank god the Sahara served as natural border long enough for them to calm down.
Rip barbary megafauna tho.
Yes, only rhinos are endangered. African wild dogs are critically endangered. But Lions, Elephants, and cheetahs are all threatened and could eventually move down into endangered status.
I wonder if, when we ressurect extinct animals, they turn out to be unhinged assholes and we suddenly understand why we genocided them
I expect so. Like people harp on the tragedy of giant, predatory creatures going extinct in modern times but motherfucker if you had to live around lions you would be overjoyed to learn you can just spray them with an AK. The animals that are pleasant to be around or generally capable of cohabitation with humans are the ones that were not driven from civilization entirely by the repeating firearm.
Doubtless many died off for lesser reasons or unintentional cause but animals who can reliably prey on humans are not long for the world. Mountain lions are "shoot on sight" to most people for good cause.
But mountain lions aren't dangerous?
>Mountain lions are "shoot on sight" to most people for good cause.
You pick the pussiest cat next to cheetahs with like 1 confirmed kill a year. They're "shoot on sight" to scared urban monkeys like yourself who are intimidated by anything bigger than their toy lap dogs.
>1 confirmed kill a year
Yeah, because the rest just disappear in the woods somewhere and are never found.
Eurasians and Americans did not genocide their megafauna. Those kinds of extinctions came much later. Anyways africans are dull and failed to domesticate the zebra, people will cope and say its because this creature lives near predators and thus is hostile but the same argument can be made for the europeans whose horses are the results of millennia of effort to buckbreak an animal that at times lived with Lions and Bears for human use. The earliest horses were just as troublesome as Zebras, but for some mysterious reason the African did not accomplish it despite having even more time to churn out at least 1 (one) domesticated breed.
Africans didn't domesticate the zebra because they had something far superior; the donkey
Technicaly, the europeans did not domesticate the horse. The so called INDO europeans that came from asia did and brought them to europe.
Almost all european nations are indo european dumbass
Wrong. Europeans are descended from dumbass celts. Indo-Europeans are the ancestors of Persians/Iranians and Indians.
The earliest indo-european speakers are thought to originate from the steppes north of the Black Sea, with some groups heading heading west into the rest of Europe, conquering & bringing their language with them (and note that Celtic languages are Indo-European ones) and others headed west into Central Asia, then south to Iran & India, doing the same conquering & installing their language. Almost all Europeans today have sizeable amounts of these steppe people's DNA (see
) alongside early Euro hunter gatherers & anatolian neolithic farmer DNA. Likewise, modern Indians and Iranians are a mix of those steppe peoples and the assorted groups that were living in those areas before the Indo-European speakers came.
horses are bigger and have stronger backs than zebras
Modern horses do, not the wild horses that were originally domesticated.
>horses are bigger and have stronger backs than zebras
Because we literally bred them that way.
>Anyways africans are dull and failed to domesticate the zebra
So did Europeans
>There has always been great interest in domesticating and training zebras as riding and harnessing animals.
>In the 1760s, French naturalist Buffon believed that zebras could replace horses and there were rumors in Paris that the Dutch had already trained a team of zebras to pull a cart.
>The colonial German army in German East Africa was was particularly interested in taming zebras for riding, pack animals, and draught animals.
There was a ~150 year period where hundreds of people from England to Australia tried to domesticate the zebra, to creater a cheaper and disease resistant horse.
But they all failed to make anything more than "look at this zebra that usually doesn't bite me" one-off oddities.
There was also a thing called the automobile that made the whole project kind of pointless.
Anyway having a zebra pull a cart like that is more than any African ever managed. In fact, a cart is more than any African ever managed. In fact, that WHEEL is more than any African ever managed.
Which is fine by the way, not everyone should have the same level of skill. Questions of superiority are pointless. No one would say a goat is superior to a sheep, or a cow superior to a horse. They're just different.
Dispelling such black invention myths however is important, not to put black people "in their place" but to dispel lies and racial agitation from (mostly) those who speak on their behalf as a part of this resurgent anti-white ideology.
My brother in Christ, have you ever heard about Egypt?
The black egyptians were called cushites
The brown egyptians that built the whole kingdom were closer to arabs and there were some celtic and indo aryans that came over on raids
There are very successful african kingdoms that would make better examples because cushite rule marked the decline of egypt. The cushites themselves, for instance, mali, askum, songhai…
Go back
Ok youre actually either braindead or trolling. Stay off pol and maybe post here again when you’re 18
there are no lies in this post
>Egypt and several enormous African empires never existed.
Cries in Mansa Musa
Egyptians aren't black and those African empires weren't really that great to be tbh.
The wealthiest nation in the world at the time, so rich its ruler accidentally bankrupted several kingdoms by casually passing through them, wasn't that great. Keep coping Timmy.
>The wealthiest nation in the world at the time
lol
Not him, but the statement you just made is correct. It produced nothing of lasting value other than a good story for people to point to when making these kinds of arguments. In fact, doesn't sound so great if bankrupting other countries is all it's known for.
>wealthiest nation in the world
>legacy is an ugly block of sticks and mud
The Malians really squandered their potential to be somebody.
>Anyway having a zebra pull a cart like that is more than any African ever managed
No shit, africans had donkeys, they were the first to domesticate them. Why would they bother domesticating a second inferior animal to pull and carry their stuff?
A lot of backlash from a truthful post.
I counted 1, maybe 2 responses that could be considered backlashish, hardly a lot.
Not a lot, but backlash is the appropriate response to such a retarded post
Stop replying to yourself to make yourself look less like a clinically retarded 4chanmong, Timmy. You got BTFO, take it on the chin and grow up.
Were you expecting a "based" from your little circle of 15 year old 4chanjeets?
We come here to discuss animals, not to discuss why a group of shut-in losers whose personalities are somehow uglier than their already horrid faces can't reproduce.
>No one would say a goat is superior to a sheep
I would.
>Names several successes
>But they all failed
What? Anyway, 150 years isn't enough to domesticate a species fully. Bigger animals like Aurochs took more time than that, but we have cows now, so zebra domestication isn't impossible.
Africans domesticated the donkey.
Pretty sure that was middle easterners.
Middle Easterners domesticated an animal that doesn't live in the Middle East?
donkeys don't live in africa either so yeah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_wild_ass
>he never replied back to you
Rekt
did they live there at the time?
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yeah i know it's lazy
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>did they live there at the time?
What? Yes, the donkey's ancestors lived in east Africa at the time of their domestication. Genetic and historical evidence confirms this.
Donkeys were domesticated by Nubians, not Egyptians.
Egyptians are certainly closer to Middle Easterners than to Bantu morons
The problem is that zebra and horses have a different social structures
>Horses form a herd with a hierarchy, a dominant stallion with its mares and foals
>Zebra stay together because it's a good survival strategy against predators, but it's every zebra for themselves
With horses you can exploit the hierarchy by replacing the top horse with a human, but Zebra will always get aggravated since they put themselves at the top and can't be submitted
Hmmmm yeah I wonder why?