Why did we make dogs ugly?

We took wolves, one of the most attractive animals in nature, and turned them into drooling abominations with soulless black voids for eyes.
Why did we do it? Were our ancestors ashamed that they felt attracted to their dogs, so bred them to be unappealing?
>inb4 b-but muh huskeroni!!
Yes, some spitzes and collies do retain some of the attractiveness of wolves.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just to make you upset. Thousands of years, targeted at specifically making you, OP, upset. Seethe.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You own a woflcock dildo and a flithy unwashed fursuit don't you? unironcially remove yourself from the census.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jannies, delete this zoophile gay's thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You own a woflcock dildo and a flithy unwashed fursuit don't you? unironcially remove yourself from the census.

      seething

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Please, I impore you, go seduce a wolf in the wild, even better, try to join a pack, try to submit and become a true beta or omega. Please please do.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If I only could, I surely would...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're not me, schizo.
            But yeah, I would too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you one of those fags who claim ''zoophiles ruin this board'' while you go out of your way to see zoophilia in everything

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >collies do retain some of the attractiveness of wolves
    collie rapist thread. they're not even close.

    collies are extremely doglike with close set, round, beady eyes, pushed in faces, short stubby legs, and big floppy ears. you just said that because huskies and collies are the first and second most popular dogs in furry porn. most siberian huskies aren't even that wolfy either, they're just more wolfy than a collie.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Big cats > wild dogs > cats > dogs on average tbh

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that dogs were bred to be servants, not pets.

    cats were bred to be pets. there's a difference.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i love my fluffy servant girl more than a toxo

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shes beauty shes grace.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks kinda like mine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        cute husky

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Humans are ugly and degenerate so they wanted their pets the same way.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >people consider this "cute"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >people preferring picrel over a normal dog
      Schizophrenic narcissists.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The actual 1 to 1 comparison is this, where it's clearly a submissive semi-fearful grimace and they aren't deformed so it looks like something it isn't (a smile).

        Dogs are uncanny and creepy. An animal should not look happy if it's actually afraid of you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Awooooofuck

          There is nothing schizophrenic or narcissistic about not liking animals that have been selectively deformed to look like human infants at all times. I'm not a woman. I don't have any maternal instinct to speak of. And when it's triggered for fatherly reasons, I want it to be for children I fathered, not an animal that is, by every definition, a brood parasite that steals my resources by looking vaguely like a child.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/J4Kwyb0.jpg

          Awooooofuck

          There is nothing schizophrenic or narcissistic about not liking animals that have been selectively deformed to look like human infants at all times. I'm not a woman. I don't have any maternal instinct to speak of. And when it's triggered for fatherly reasons, I want it to be for children I fathered, not an animal that is, by every definition, a brood parasite that steals my resources by looking vaguely like a child.

          No, you're schizophrenic narcissists because you want to be speshul by preferring wolves over dogs. You can justify it any way you want, but the long and short of it is dogs are just better pets in literally every conceivable way. It's just a fact. The only way someone would want a wolf or a wolfdog as a pet is if they're so deeply narcissistic they think they're special enough to raise one, and they're schizophrenic enough to think that's normal.
          The entire point of dogs is to be appealing to bumans, otherwise they wouldnt have been domesticated. If you don't find them appealing then there is simply something wrong with you, and that makes you broken, not special.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Projection. I work from home and live in the sticks. I dont need or want a better slave.

            >appealing to humans
            Appealing to women. Slaves to men. They look like infants. I’m a childless man so I have no maternal urges. You know what men traditionally did with dogs? Beat them if they didn’t listen. Appealing, sure.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >muh man and woman so different
              More narcissism. Your brain isn't different than a womans. You just don't like dogs because you don't like dogs, not because you're an xtra speshul alfa male.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >confidence is narcissistic
            >deviation from the norm is schizophrenia
            Who knew. The people of brave new world built time machines. This bro is so insane he’d call you deformed and retarded if you didn’t like cheddar chease
            >it was created to be tasty to humans or it wouldn’t exist, so you aren’t human!
            moron. A lot of people today absolutely hate dogs and the #1 reason is they’re unnerving and pathetic. All the breeding to make them look and act human ish hits the uncanny valley. Wolves basically look like weird cats and appeal to cat people. Being a dogfag is not THE human condition. Do you know whats narcissistic? Thinking your tastes are THE human condition.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you dislike canines I don't give a shit. You're a narcissist if you prefer wolves over dogs as pets or potential pets, as I already said.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >muh man and woman so different
                More narcissism. Your brain isn't different than a womans. You just don't like dogs because you don't like dogs, not because you're an xtra speshul alfa male.

                You don’t seem to know what narcissism is but your need to establish superiority in every interaction and entirely negative, hateful personality is definitely its own disorder.

                Your argument rests on the equivalent statement to “white bread was made from whole wheat to be appealing, so if you prefer whole wheat you are a snowflake narcissistic tryhard gay”. What even makes a good pet? For who? Im not a neolithic villager or subsistence hunter. Yes I am special, everyone is special. If you are black you are different from a white person. Men are different from women. Children, teens, adults, and geezers are different. Acknowledging that doesn’t make you anything. And clearly you are a sheltered shit who cant handle dissenting opinions so I suspect being whatever you are makes you special. Just not in a good way. I don’t like dogs. They aren’t good pets. They’re disgusting and obnoxious working animals. Dogs are livestock that aren’t capable of loving you. Wolves are independent animals and I consider the process of genuinely befriending one a desirable experience. If your idea of a pet is a slave that sits idle while you finish your shift at starbucks and you hate wolves because they can’t fit your lifestyle I dont care. Your opinions are not defining of humanity. My situation is materially different than yours. My feelings are different from yours. Everyone is different. Deal with it pal. Sorry you feel threatened when someone is creeped out instead of swooning when an animal expressing fear and nervousness looks like a grinning baby and start playing freud.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Tldr. Sounds like a whole lotta cope though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ha, that's a lot like my little brother's clinically narcissistic ex-fiance's old catchphrase. "Okay, I wasn't listening, but you sound like you need therapy". The reason she was his EX fiance is because we're both into old sportscars and classic sportbikes, and she started bringing up something like this more and more
                >Uh new cars were made to be better. What makes you so special?
                >If you like this there's something wrong with your head, you're stupid.
                >Do you want to stand out?
                >You aren't better than anyone else because you want to fix things yourself. Going to a mechanic is just better.
                >me and my brother: We are at a rallycross track.
                I have no idea why he got engaged to her after 2 months.

                Weird pets like wolves are the same as other inaccessible hobbies. They aren't for everyone but they are very rewarding because of the difficulty involved and the more rural, open air life that necessarily comes with it. They were developed for and by people who worked hard to get their families somewhere with more open space and more free time and cash.

                That doesn't mean there's something wrong with someone that has 10 fenced in acres and 30 hour at-home work weeks getting a wolf. I would only start questioning someone's sanity if they got a full blooded wolf in the middle of a suburb or god forbid a city. But if you have the space and time they are genuinely good companions, not just shit eating yes men. And the prospects for them if you suddenly die or lose everything in a fire are better. Dogs go to karen rescues and kill shelters that place them with a lying couple that will take them home and beat and neglect them. Wolves go to sanctuaries that want to keep them in perfect health living in well manicured simulated woods with a bunch of other wolves and charge people to see them for 20 seconds.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Brevity is the heart of wit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not trying to be witty.

                I'm engaging with a whiny bitch in a way he can understand.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Whiny bitches tend to write entire thesis explaining why they're right and you're wrong etc.
                Or whatever is in your novellas. Idk. I haven't read them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed with you mostly but having one wolf would require you to have another to keep him company. I don't think pure wolves would be very happy in captivity/living by your schedule, even if you did WFH and had lots of space and time for them.
                >Wolves go to sanctuaries that want to keep them in perfect health living in well manicured simulated woods with a bunch of other wolves
                All of these sanctuaries are completely filled unfortunately. People in over their head get a wolf or wolfdog and then since the sanctuaries can't take them in once they're older and harder to take care of they get euthanized.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can have just one wolf but the relationship is necessarily much closer than most people are okay with. There's really only one possible relationship in a wolf's brain when there's only two of you and it makes them very demanding and clingy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That would be fine with me if we were very close with each other—but it’s hard to fit that into the modern world as it is. Your wolf friend won’t understand why you left him alone for a few hours to run an errand and it will cause him distress being separated from his most important person like that

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >wolffags are just catfags on copium
              makes sense

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Idk but they are the stencil for the human "race"

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    look up domestication syndrome
    >>he saged the thread hoping I wouldn't notice his reply
    kek i always love when that happens. that's how you know you got to them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      meant to reply to

      Lmao I caught you didn't I.
      Proper etiquette is to at least post a photoshopped or inspect element'd image and tell me to take my meds 😉
      >he saged the thread hoping I wouldn't notice his reply so I wouldn't BTFO him any more
      Mark of a coward, anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      imagine being such a conversationlet that you get saged enough to develop a confirmation bias about it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah saging the thread when losing an argument is a classic cope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if you consider "losing an argument" becoming bored by strawmen, ad hominem, and low effort circular logic,
          sure

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            impressive number of le epic debater buzzwords in one sentence

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              exactly

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            exactly

            Go outside bro Jesus Christ

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >touch grass lmao
              >lol u saged
              >that means win

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not that guy. Just pointing out that anyone who has ever used the word "strawmen" needs to touch grass immediately

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                why?
                because you frequently get called one because you have no argument and this upsets you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what? you don't call someone a "stawman" as an insult, retard
                you actually have no clue what the words you use even mean lmao

                just stop posting, lad

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >stawman
                >the rest of your post
                stop drinking bro

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its more like
    >wolf = cro magnon
    >husky = ancestral indo-european
    >nordic spitz breeds = the people that keep them
    >collie = scandinavian descendant living on the british isles, has all his loicenses in order at any given time and knows all the laws
    >daschund = modern german
    >pitbull = average londoner
    >mastiff = hails from manchester
    >corgi = welshman denied his favorite activity due to insufficient height
    >this dog = american displaying prehistoric features due to a mixture of native american (siberian migrant) and nordic blood

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because if you breed something to BE stupid and docile it will also LOOK stupid and docile. incapable of thought. all it does is what you conditioned it to. why would a literal retard look like a healthy person? the face and brain develop from the same fetal tissue.

    domestication in humans is considered a genetic disorder.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/qejfUL4.jpg

      We took wolves, one of the most attractive animals in nature, and turned them into drooling abominations with soulless black voids for eyes.
      Why did we do it? Were our ancestors ashamed that they felt attracted to their dogs, so bred them to be unappealing?
      >inb4 b-but muh huskeroni!!
      Yes, some spitzes and collies do retain some of the attractiveness of wolves.

      >collies do retain some of the attractiveness
      fucking lmao

      huskies don't even get very close but other dogs make them look wolf like by comparison.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    now kiss gays

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can you guys at least post wolf/yote photos in your arguments?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong thread

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Retards want living teddy bears. So they bred them to look that way

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP here. I think I need to restate my question because you're all irredeemably autistic:

    Why is it that THE MAJORITY OF domestic dogs are significantly less attractive than wolves? What was the reason for us breeding MOST OF them to be so drastically mutated from their wild ancestors; why were these visually unappealing traits bred into THE MAJORITY OF dog breeds by human breeders?
    n.b. cats are not relevant to this question

    Hope this clears things up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because normies have bad taste

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Normies generally prefer attractive or cute things over ugly things, right? Why is it not the same for dogs?
        I could understand if small dogs were bred to be like small, cute, neotenous wolves, but they're not; they're drooling goblina abominations for the most part.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          healthy dogs are too high maintenence for normies

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why couldn't we have bred an attractive, low maintenance dog then?

            >in general
            excludes specific breeds so the same applies to dogs

            every dog and cat specie

            https://i.imgur.com/sVhIX5k.jpg

            >licking your ass on the kitchen table is cute

            kys console autists

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              because looking good requires effort

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What? We started with something that looked good and actively made it ugly

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                exactly
                try owning a wolf or a fox
                they require a lot of effort compared to an ugly dog that cant breathe and move

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For the same reason retards are cute. Normies are like ''hey, look at my cute little retard dog, aren't you dumb and gay and cute''.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This actually might be somewhere close to the truth.
        Dog owners (normie ones, before you all start seething) tend to see their pets as completely beneath them. Simply a mindbroken but loveable slave with no kind of agency. They do not respect these animals at all.
        That becomes a lot easier when you breed it to look like a goofy retard with soulless beady eyes, rather than an athletic, sharp-featured, wolf-like dog with piercing blue/amber/green eyes.
        This would explain why a lot of husky owners tend to treat their dogs more like "equals" when compared to more mutant dog owners.

        exactly
        try owning a wolf or a fox
        they require a lot of effort compared to an ugly dog that cant breathe and move

        But why couldn't we just breed more docile, low-energy attractive dogs?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have statistics for this?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. You can find them here:
            https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trollface

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Thought so.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry my post made you upset. Are you an owner of a mutant dog by any chance?
                >w-where's the peer-reviewed study to back up that opinion?!?!
                You might be happier on Reddit, my friend

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. I prefer wolves>dogs though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >But why couldn't we just breed more docile, low-energy attractive dogs?
          because form follows function

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >no actual explanation

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              try using your brain for once in your pathetic life

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know what you're talking about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you communicate like a no iq bot

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You have no actual insights and can't explain your opinions so your input is useless
                >b-bot!
                jej. You communicate like a 4chan poster

                Retards want living teddy bears. So they bred them to look that way

                Teddy bears aren't disgusting to look at though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                form follows function is an incredibly well established, antique, school of thought on design that any 95 iq midwit should be able to google and understand without infantile spoonfeeding

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm aware of the concept, I just don't think it's as insightful as you think it is. Let's take the eyes as an example - say I want a docile, friendly, low-energy companion dog, why does it have to end up with beady, soulless eyes?
                >95 iq midwit
                The midwit meme is meant to mock people with slightly above average intelligence. If you're going to use it, at least get it right.

                >But why couldn't we just breed more docile, low-energy attractive dogs?
                We do, they're called companion breeds.
                Oh but do you mean breeds that look like they can work? Because for something to look like it can work, it has to be able to work, and therefore can't be docile or low energy.
                You're retarded, and this is obvious.

                No, that's not what I mean. Why can't the docile companion breeds retain wolf-like faces (or a "cuter" version of them, anyway)?

                https://i.imgur.com/RyAHqNe.jpg

                Can you guys at least post wolf/yote photos in your arguments?

                Okay, anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                im not meming
                im specifically calling you out for being below average iq

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I can see that.
                All while being unable to answer the question and looking like a retard in the process. Thanks for your input anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No, that's not what I mean. Why can't the docile companion breeds retain wolf-like faces (or a "cuter" version of them, anyway)?
                German spitz breeds exist.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, they're close. They still have the soulless eyes though.
                Also, I find Pomeranian faces unappealing for some reason

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I need an example of a companion dog with a wolf like face
                >gives example of an entire family of breeds that are companion dogs but have wolf like faces
                >no not those they're unappealing
                Ywn be satisfied, why even complain

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's kind of a secondary discussion to the main question really. German spitzes make up a minority of small dogs anyway. They're not as popular as a lot of the deformed breeds, which I will never understand the appeal of.

                im not going to reread the thread
                i answered the op question multiple times
                you obviously have an answer in your head you want to hear

                >you obviously have an answer in your head you want to hear
                Well yes, a coherent and well thought-out one would be great

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            form follows function is an incredibly well established, antique, school of thought on design that any 95 iq midwit should be able to google and understand without infantile spoonfeeding

            There's no scientific reason why ugly would be bad except within humans.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lmao
              im sorry but youre too stupid to have a proper conversation with

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You clearly never wanted a conversation in the first place when you kept saying ''just google it, retard''. You can't simultaneously claim that it's extremely simple while not being able to explain it.
                My guess is that it's easier make dogs low energy by crippling them than to breed out mental processes. Is that what you were trying to say but couldn't?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i didnt want a conversation with a retard who cant figure out the concepts without being spoonfed, youre correct
                Wauf isnt an educational instituation

                Yes, I can see that.
                All while being unable to answer the question and looking like a retard in the process. Thanks for your input anon.

                what was the question?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >what was the question?
                Feel free to re-read the thread, anon. Though to be honest, I don't think you'll be able to answer it so I won't bother spoonfeeding you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                im not going to reread the thread
                i answered the op question multiple times
                you obviously have an answer in your head you want to hear

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine going out of your way this much to be unhelpful. Just say nothing if you really can't be bothered.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                imagine not googling simple, well documented concepts and instead expecting anon to regurgitate them for nobodies on a siamese lawnmowing forum for absolutely nothing in return

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >for absolutely nothing in return
                As opposed to this extremely rewarding discussion that makes both of us flourish

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                being unable to do 1.5 minutes of wikipedia """"research"" officially excludes you from my pool of people i might be able to have a semblance of a rewarding conversation with
                at his point im just bullying you for fun

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >get btfo and exposed as a pseud
                >i-i'm just bullying you, heh
                How do you even make a post like this without dying of cringe? This reminds me of a post I would make when I would lose an argument on /b/ as a teenager lmao

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you should probably just go back to /b/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not been there in many years, think it's just coomer shit now.
                Anon, a bit of advice for future posting: if you're going to make posts about how high IQ you are, you had better make sure you have the knowledge and intelligence to back it up (or get better at pretending you do), otherwise it's just embarrassing for all involved.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i only ever called you low iq to be fair

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                True, true. Point still stands though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I did look it up, I don't see how it applies to aesthetic beauty, can't be bothered to look further into it because for all I know you might as well be talking out of your ass.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lel you really thought you looked smart regurgitating design philosophy 101 shit with no regard to the actual context or intelligence to back it up didn't you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                oh boy you finally looked it up 🙂

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >calling anon out for regurgitating terms after calling anon out for not regurgiataing terms
                stay classy anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                imagine not googling simple, well documented concepts and instead expecting anon to regurgitate them for nobodies on a siamese lawnmowing forum for absolutely nothing in return

                Anon, you're obviously samefagging. The point was that he (i.e. (You)) regurgitated something he had heard before, but could not elaborate any further because he didn't know anything about the thing he regurgitated.
                This is why he then resorted to
                >you're le dumb so I won't explain myself
                Because he literally did not have the knowledge on the subject, or the eloquence to explain his opinions

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >le SAMEFAGGING

                yawn

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao I caught you didn't I.
                Proper etiquette is to at least post a photoshopped or inspect element'd image and tell me to take my meds 😉
                >he saged the thread hoping I wouldn't notice his reply so I wouldn't BTFO him any more
                Mark of a coward, anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                seems like you problems
                my , non self aware , dude

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You seem like the argumentative type who will just keep on replying to my posts no matter how many times he gets humiliated (because getting the last reply is the same as winning in your mind), so I give you permission to leave the thread to save yourself further embarrassment.
                You may respond to this post with "cope", or "seethe", or however you see fit. Goodnight, anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > my coping and seething isn't as noticable if I preempt it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >But why couldn't we just breed more docile, low-energy attractive dogs?
          We do, they're called companion breeds.
          Oh but do you mean breeds that look like they can work? Because for something to look like it can work, it has to be able to work, and therefore can't be docile or low energy.
          You're retarded, and this is obvious.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And while I agree that there are lots of dogs that are objectively ugly (pugs, obv) to say every dog that isn't wolf-like is ugly is disingenuous.
      Nevertheless I have theories:
      >humans are predisposed to find babies cute
      >finding something cute makes us want to protect it
      >this is an evolutionary quirk so we dont kill our own babies for being annoying
      >this translates to other things that have the vague features of human babies
      >big foreheads, big heads, and big expressive eyes
      >it's why kittens are so cute
      >it's why anime is so appealing
      >so domestic dogs, even working lines that serve a purpose beyond looking cute, generally follow that trend away from wolves
      >of a shorter snout, big expressive eyes, and a bigger forehead
      The dark eyes likely became a thing because people didn't like the amber eyes of a wolf staring them down, it's a very predatory stare

      >b-but muh attractiveness!!!
      I'm not a freak zoophile so I can't speak on that shit. Although I find wolves pretty I don't think I'd ever want one or a dog that looks close to one. I'm not some attention seeking hipster who needs a speshul wolfdog to feel big. I like my regular dogs, like my ancestors intended.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wow. Good post, ano-
        >>it's why anime is so appealing
        Never mind

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So you’re a pedo and prefer neotenous 12 year olds over real women as well?

        t. Wolf and women with jawlines enjoyer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Regarding the shorter snouts, apparently there's a link between the snout length and distribution of retinal ganglion cells
        https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/73756
        According to the above article, dogs with longer snouts have a broader horizontal streak of ganglions, while the vision of dogs with shorter snouts is focused more onto a central point not unlike a human's.
        Purely speculating here, but it's possible that dogs with shorter snouts consequently had an advantage in a domesticated role in some way or another:
        >easier to read our facial expressions
        >easier to distinguish between different faces (very important for a guard dog)
        >might be more effective to hunt/fight or otherwise work with humans if we can more easily relate to each other's field of vision
        On a tangent, it also perhaps explains why sighthounds tend to have such longer snouts, because the wider streak makes it easier for them to keep track of prey when it makes a turn.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's really interesting and isnt something I would've ever thought about. Thanks anon!

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >attractive
    have a nice day. You're far more abominable and unnatural than any dog.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you have a dog or cat you're basically a normie kek

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you just basically admit cats are cuter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, in general, yes. Cats are less "mutant" and tend to resemble their wild ancestors more than most dogs. They're not as attractive as wolves or foxes though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >vacant snake eyes stare
      >weird shaped pudgy body that looks like it might explode diarrhea if you poke it with a pointy stick
      cats really are not cute at all

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        not him but i think cats are cuter than dogs and i own both. its the main reason why people own them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i guess it makes sense because normies have bad taste

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >liking normie pets
            Wow!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        snake eyes stare
        Better than a soulless beady-eyed void stare imo
        shaped pudgy body that looks like it might explode diarrhea if you poke it with a pointy stick
        Only true if overfed. A healthy cat body is lean and athletic

        i guess it makes sense because normies have bad taste

        >normies
        Come on dude, we're talking about the two most normie animals by far here

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yes
          the answer to why dogs and cats are ugly is because normies have bad taste

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cats are completely irrelevant to this discussion though. Picrel is what domestic cats came from - it's basically unchanged in overall body shape, just the coloring is different really.

            The question is, why did we turn wolves into mutants?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              if you think house cats arent mutant retards than youre a mutant retard whose input is irrelevent to this discussion

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Stop liking what I like!!!
                kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >stop comparing apples to apples
                retard logic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Look at an african wildcat, then at a domestic cat
                Look at a wolf, and then at a pug

                One of them is a lot more mutated than the other

                >Stop liking what I like!!!
                kek

                I don't even particularly like cats, but it's obvious that they're less physically mutated than dogs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >look at persian munchkin cat then look at an indian pariah dog
                >one of them is obviously more mutated than the other

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lol I like dogs too but it isn't even close

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                my point is that it is retarded to cherry pick
                all domestic animals quickly revert to a feral pariah state

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's not cherrypicking when more dogs are mutated on average to cats

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it is absolutely cherry picking when you compare cats as a whole to toadlines

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But the entire point is that we mentioned that dogs on general are more mutated which was stated before that post kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and my point is that dogs in general arent "more mutated" any more than cats or pigeons are and picking out specific lineages as proof is disingenuous

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They pretty much are. there are more mutated dog breeds from their wild counterparts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                breeds literally dont count
                without humab intervention a toadline will quickly die out or become a dingo the same way a munchkin will become a tabby
                obviously if you start inbreeding animals for exaggerated features thats what youre going to end up with

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they do count . they're are all in the same genus. some dogs were bred for specific purpose which made them mutated

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and comparing any specific dog breed to cats as a whole is disengenuous for the same reason

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Eh, in general, yes. Cats are less "mutant" and tend to resemble their wild ancestors more than most dogs. They're not as attractive as wolves or foxes though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >in general
                excludes specific breeds so the same applies to dogs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                every dog and cat specie

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >obviously if you start inbreeding animals for exaggerated features thats what youre going to end up with
                Yeah and people did that more with dogs than with cats, this is just a fact, what the fuck is your point?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They literally are though. The fact that huskies exist doesn't mean that the majority of dogs are way more mutated than the majority of cats

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even labradors are way more mutated than cats

                >attractive
                have a nice day. You're far more abominable and unnatural than any dog.

                Reddit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mutant dogs are the default, mutant cats are a novelty

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >vacant snake eyes stare
      >weird shaped pudgy body that looks like it might explode diarrhea if you poke it with a pointy stick
      cats really are not cute at all

      not him but i think cats are cuter than dogs and i own both. its the main reason why people own them.

      i guess it makes sense because normies have bad taste

      https://i.imgur.com/MorIeur.jpg

      >liking normie pets
      Wow!

      snake eyes stare
      Better than a soulless beady-eyed void stare imo
      shaped pudgy body that looks like it might explode diarrhea if you poke it with a pointy stick
      Only true if overfed. A healthy cat body is lean and athletic
      [...]
      >normies
      Come on dude, we're talking about the two most normie animals by far here

      OP here, please don't turn my thread into ANOTHER console wars autismfest

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you brought this on yourself when you decided to become a wolfaboo.
        no wolves or yotes for you, but have a baby african wild dog

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >licking your ass on the kitchen table is cute

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        cute cats

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Inbreeding, lots and lots of inbreeding

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To make them better slaves. All the ugly dogs are highly derived, very submissive and obedient ones that you are genuinely the master to. Their disordered, degraded bodies reflect their disordered, degraded minds.

    The more you breed any canine, even a fox, for lower intelligence and higher docility, the more "dog-like" they start to look with floppy ears, droopy unmoving faces, and beady, lifeless eyes.

    We took away their ability to express a wide spectrum of emotions because they didn't even have them anymore. We took away their dignity because they didn't have it anymore. The average ugly dog like a pitbull or golden retriever has trouble with expressing any form of agency. Some of them will whine at a partially open door for a human to open it. It's really quite pathetic.

    Notice those attractive wolfy dogs are also disobedient and have a tendency to fuck off and do their own thing, to the point of trying to escape one owner in particular and seek out a new one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Good post. What about collies though? They're submissive but still look attractive

      Inbreeding, lots and lots of inbreeding

      That's the how, not the why

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dogs have more expressive faces than wolves

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        dogs got selected to be stuck in extended lower developmental stages. wolves are plenty expressive as puppies and then mature to actually fit their size. most people hate giant dogs that still act like retards

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          both of you are wrong. wolves can actually express much more IF the dog being compared has droopy lips, dark eyes, and totally floppy ears.

          something like a husky is just a wolf with eyebrows so it's slightly more expressive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We took away their ability to express a wide spectrum of emotions
      Domestic dogs have the ability to express many more emotions in their face than wild wolves.

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