Why are cat "owners" such cucks?

Why are cat "owners" such cucks?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Comparing the hunting success rate to determine which is better is dumb af. If wolves have higher success rates then the payoff is they have to feed multiple pack members and expend far more time and energy taking down a single prey animal than a solitary cat which might fail more but expend less energy for what it gets in return. That doesn't make either better than the other, by this logic dragonflies are the best animals ever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      best animals ever are humans since they have a near 100% success rate

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most cat owners are terrible owners.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dogs: employed working animals
    cats: unemployed welfare animals
    your taxi driver is a dog
    the hobo who smears dirty water on his windshield and demands $5 is a cat
    >im helping!

    lol
    lmao

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dogfag: very smart, many words, demands victory and dominance
    >catfag: kind of stupid, just tries to annoy stuff until it goes away
    they are exactly like their animals

    >bark bark bark bark awooo woo wooo bark bark woooo bark bark wooo bark roof ruff aroorooroooo bark bark woof wuff arf arf wooo woooooooooooo orf....
    >*laying in litterbox* MEEEEEEEOOOOOWR! HISSSSSSS *vomits* *tracks litter all over* *wipes dingleberry off on couch* *scratches couch* *vomits again* *vomits on dog* *finally licks paws clean after getting tiny shit pebbles on the furniture* *pulls up carpet for no reason* *refuses to explain further* *leaves to take a nap*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The data revealed that the dogs chased almost all of their prey over short runs rather than long pursuits. They didn’t coordinate their attacks, and they never showed signs of teamwork. On average, they killed just 16 percent of their targets.

      In other words, nothing about their reputations bore out in the data. “It was really quite the opposite of what we expected,” says Tatjana Hubel, who was involved in the study. “We’re not saying they never do these things, but we didn’t see any evidence.”
      OH NO NO NO NO NO

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A short excursion by national geographic will also find lions have a 0% success rate and are going to all starve, anon. Please link an actual article instead of a paywalled pop-sci op-ed. You know, like I did for your cougars to make them look good, because there are pop sci op eds that say cougars are much less successful. It could be they found a divergent population that had been negatively affected by human expansion, which is the typical explanation for cats doing poorly as well.

        For pop sci op eds I say the majority rule and the majority say african wild dogs BTFO cats.

        And furthermore,

        [...]

        forget the original statement was cats, in the context of a thread about domestic cats, are shitty prey animals<<<.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The data revealed that the dogs chased almost all of their prey over short runs rather than long pursuits. They didn’t coordinate their attacks, and they never showed signs of teamwork. On average, they killed just 16 percent of their targets.
          over 1k hunting attempts is more than enough to quality for a qualified data since most "articles" fewer studies. so yeah it aint bs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            All I see is a box begging me to sign up for national geographic. If this is real data you can just link the source at the bottom of the article.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms11034

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >one six dog pack in botswana
                this is honestly really shitty data. the 80%+ rates all come from packs of 15+. a pack animal will be less successful in smaller numbers. that's how pack animals work. there's a size and strength/numbers and coordination trade off that improves as their numbers go up. for example a human with no direct or indirect help has a hunting success rate of near 0% but a human with good indirect support from weaponsmiths, trackers, stable owners, and outfitters will have a 100% success rate. another thing that can severely disrupt performance is human contact. lions harassed by humans have poor kill rates. african wild dogs are being driven to extinction by farmers in botswana. have you seen the dismal performance of solo lions? or have you noticed that untouched amur tigers have comically higher success rates than tiger species that are in more contact with humans? you should have for the sake of your argument because amur tigers have been documented succeeding 80% of the time in some cases, even though if you found one near a human settlement in a disrupted environment you would get the more typical tiger success rate of 5%.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the study also states more =/= more successful.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A single small pack, implying those individuals are disrupted or inexperienced, is less successful than large undisrupted/dysgenic packs
                No really? The cougars in the study I gave you were in the canadian wilds and as untouched as cougars get.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It literally states that more wild dog % does not = more successful rates so i'm now doubting your sources

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It only studied a single six dog pack in northern botswana.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                with 1k studies. The reason why the success % was low was not due to numbers. did you even read it?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. If a six dog pack hunts 1000 times, it will never be as successful as a 15 dog pack hunting 1000 times.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes and there's studies that a 15+ pack wont get 80% either, what's your point?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                funny i only see studies that say 15+ packs get 80%+.

                moreover all dogs are smarter than all cats, and intelligence is the only meaningful quality in an animal because it's their ability to adapt to new situations, such as domestication. oh sorry did the goalpost move? it's only fair.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                can you show me these studies?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                schizofag willl never give you facts, only feelings

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Op unable to communicate without using buzzwords?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why can I not love my cat.... are you guys ok?...

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kek

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >107 replies
    >37 unique IP
    just have a nice day already gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how many unique replies were you expecting in an argument shitpost thread?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >schizofag larping as more than 1 person
      what did you expect??

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do cats attack you anon?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I let my cat bite and scratch me when we play because I'm not a bitch like a certain original poster.
    It's just a little kitty bro, it doesn't hurt

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When people shit talk cat owners (which is warranted) why does the automatic reaction become to immediately attack dog owners when dogs are not mentioned? I hate both.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because dogs are more likely to do it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        which dogs?
        >inb4 all dogs
        that's a lie

        there is also a question of which cats
        >inb4 all cats
        that's a lie but cats are in an unfortunate place. the cat equivalent of the pitbull is totally dominant and purebreds are rare.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          terriers, huskies, GSD and bullys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >huskies
            8/9 attacks in nearly 20 years were all newborn infants and it's well established that they do not look, smell, sound, or move like a human to a dog. If you have common sense, you don't leave newborns alone with dogs. I'm looking at these news stories and it's stuff like obvious wolf hybrids (giant yellow eyed "malamute husky mix") and irresponsible owners (3 huskies in a "crate and rotate" arrangement in a trailer sized home). Which tells me that people without common sense get huskies. This is a far cry from GSDs, which were bred to attack shit, and pitbulls, which have such strong genes for aggression that even ones with professional trainers for owners get into trouble. Huskies, IMHO, are like if sighthounds (which will lunge at toddlers) had owners who didn't understand that their dogs were historically bred to kill small animals, and a distinct minority of them liked having wolf/borzoi mixes. Most husky owners aren't aware that the injuns used them as hunting dogs as well, and huskies and sighthounds are both in primitive breed groups.

            Furthermore, looking at the attack statistics, huskies are very near the bottom with the top all being bullies, mastiffs, GSDs, and rottweilers, even with the retard owner and misreported wolf hybrid problems.

            Furthermore, I live in northern washington, near alaska and canada, where huskies are the most numerous dog, and they're notoriously safe while GSDs have the strongest reputation for violence (not many pibbles on the peninsula). I know they're not known for getting along with other dogs but with injuns hanging around over here that's a good thing. Injuns come with tiny stray dogs shitting everything up. Maybe I'll get a husky so it can chase/kill them off.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              notice how i mentioned GSD too

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                GSDs are #3 for attacks. Huskies are way down there and haven't had an attack in the US in years.

                But for some reason if you include britain in the statistics whatever their huskies are over there, they're fucking deadly. they have one or two attacks a year. I've seen british husky youtube channels and those things are fucking massive. The US is the "lying about your wolfdog" capital of the world and somehow our most fucked up "huskies" are apparently safer than whatever the fuck those are crossbred with.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >huskies in america

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >huskies in europe [gothenburg death metal playing in the background]

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                god huskies look like inbred wolves

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              dude dogs are easier than cats

              pretty much all spitz breeds are all prey drive and dog aggression and friendly otherwise. very predictable and easy for a competent owner (avoid smaller animals you don't want dead, be careful around larger dogs). prey drive is also common to a lot of hounds and pointers.

              most terriers are like the above but genuinely psychotic and can't be trusted. it's a good thing they're small. fuck terriers.

              retrievers and collies are dog aggressive, mildly territorial, and prone to random, impossible to understand or predict neurotic rage if they're severely understimulated. (pay attention to your dog and don't leave them alone with strange dogs)

              german/belgian shepherds, rotts, etc are territorial/protective and bitey. very predictable but a little harder for a competent owner (teach dog boundaries).

              pibbles are very bitey and have all forms of aggression at once without warning. nearly impossible to handle with training. (dog must be kept muzzled around children, adults, and other dogs)

              cats are extremely antisocial-aggressive and prey driven. most will kill any smaller animal in front of them (forget having a bird or rat), will kill each other if you put the wrong pair of cats in a room together, and will attack humans when they don't want to be bothered. if your cat is a dickhead you're shit out of luck and have to work around the cat's problems or just chuck them outside and say he's happier that way. it's a good thing they're small.

              in general animals have a tendency to attack shit but for different reasons. who could have predicted this?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ive had a dog and cat and the dog ended up killing our birds before the cat could do the same

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >smarter, more athletic predator gets the kill first
                no really? in the real world cats are almost on the bottom of the food chain. they're only le environmental disaster because crazy cat ladies and feral colony cunts are making sure there's a shitload of them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                actually felines are the best successful predators. there's a reason why there's no dog sized lions

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                we're talking about the tiny desert cats that hunt by waiting for smaller animals to walk in front of them not totally unrelated family of cats doing their best wolf larp

                there's also a reason the presence of big ass timberwolves disallows any social feline from evolving, wolves are considered a threat to puma populations, and cats only do well when canines are significantly smaller tham them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we
                nope that's just you, schizofag.

                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3196270/So-s-dogs-hate-cats-Fossils-reveal-felines-drove-40-species-canines-extinction-arriving-North-America.html#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20it%20is%20thought,region%20millions%20of%20years%20ago.&text=The%20introduction%20of%20cats%20from,of%20dogs%2C%20according%20to%20researchers.
                when it comes to hunting felines have been better on average since the beginning of times. you can't even argue this

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >canines: forged in fire to become superior land predator second to man
                >cat: durr me get big and wait for stuff to walk in front of me
                >most successful land predator: african wild dog
                >second most successful kill stealers: lions aka feminist tigers (behind hyenas AKA chud mongooses)
                Yeah sure lmao. All cats have up their sleeve is getting big. When a predator is successful they're called "the wolves of *thing*" not the "lions of *thing*". Any felines don't have a massive size advantage, cats turn tail and run while their cubs end up wolf food. It's kind of a sad animal, really. If wolves just got slightly bigger tigers would be fucked and the world would be split between dogs and bears.

                Cats make cute pets though I'll give you that. Sure, they can't even take care of rats, but they are cuddly.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >on average
                >most successful land predator: african wild dog
                Yeah, you're wrong once again

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The most effective cats (wild ancestors of the domestic cat) only have a 60% success rate hunting shrews and bugs. Wild dogs are over 80% successful hunting megafauna.

                Domestic animals aren't even in the same category. Dogs ancestors could run down elk, most dogs can catch rabbits and anything else requires a human to finish it off. Wildcats were extremely effective killers. Modern cats have legitimate difficulty with mice and rats and prefer birds that are fattened up on the garbage and pests surrounding human settlements.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you dumb? I said on average. Are you an NPC or something
                >actually felines are the best successful predators
                >when it comes to hunting felines have been better on average since the beginning of times
                >on average

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You moved the goalpost to extinct animals that are just the selective pressures that created the world today. And lions. Lions and wolves have a similar kill rate (25% and 20%) considering lions have way more prey to work with and wolves have dealt with extirpation's dysgenic effects.

                I was talking about small cats. Black footed cat = 60% against small prey, often prey itself. Domestic cat = 30%, same niche, coyote food. Those cats. Literal cats. Cats in the appropriate context. The cats everyone was talking about. Cats. Not felidae. "Cats".

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because you moved the goal post too
                >in the real world cats are almost on the bottom of the food chain
                cats are any type of cats and they are on average better hunters than canines. you know nothing about animals

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Context, autist. Context. Cats. In a cat thread. Which cat could "cats" refer to? In a statement about small animals that are near the bottom of the food chain? Hmm, must be extinct tigers!

                And the most successful mammalian hunter is the african wild dog. Lions are mostly kill stealers with a dismal 25% hunt success rate on a continent where predators are tripping over food, nearly equal to the performance of what's left of wolves after humans shot all the good ones and left them in sparse wilderness with nothing left to hunt. Tigers struggle to be more than 10% successfull. For comparison purposes, a chud mongoose that also loves stealing kills is over 70% successful when it actually hunts.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not him but most wild canines need a size advantage to beat other predators. if you look at the studies, wild dogs lack robustness to handle grappling from other animals. which is why they die to smaller wolverines, similar sized felines and smaller pantherines

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do catfags always resort to posting pictures of wildcats killing domestic dogs? Is this like the toxofags that break down and post dog abuse webms when they get mad? All you have is shock value? Lmao. Truly feline. Just scream when your intellectual superior bothers you too hard.

                Wild dogs have the highest hunt success rate of any mammal on land. this is a fact. And we weren't even talking about other cats, just small ones.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                truly people are like their animals
                >dog: constant high IQ barking and awooing
                >cat: MEOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWRRRRRRRRRR! HISSSSSSSSSSSSSS *vomits*

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. not a catfag. I prefer reptiles
                2. it's a wolf not a domestic dog.
                3. I can post other videos without cats if you llike
                here's a wolverine destroying a bigger wolf.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its a wolf
                >a lone wolf
                >that looks like a domestic dog, and is probably 1/2 to 1/4 domestic dog
                K

                African wild dogs have the highest success rate of any mammal on land, but I wasn't even talking about them. I was talking about the tiny domestic cats that were the subject of the thread that are half as successful as their shrew and bug catching wild cousins and eaten way more often. But since you knew you'd lose that one you're trying to bring up other things like lone wolves getting killed to try and make me mad.

                Unfortunately you're just lowering my opinion of you further instead. I now consider you an idiot unworthy of further attention. Tata, cry more, and remember:

                I won.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a Wolf. and Lone wolves do exist. and yes it was a wolf. the guy who recorded literally said it was a wolf.
                https://wolf.org/wolf-info/basic-wolf-info/wolf-faqs/

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao Schizofag got destroyed. saving this ss before he deletes it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i don't like that goalpost
                >here's the new one
                i win.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >when it comes to hunting felines have been better on average since the beginning of times
                >on average
                nope

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                but are they better hunters on average though?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would it matter when the original goalpost was firmly set at "cats" in the context of a thread about small cats

                Then the toxo defense force starts saying HURR ALL FELINES THROUGH HISTORY ON AVERAGE. They are so insecure they can't handle a losing argument and need to shift goalposts any time mittens honor is threatened. If that fails, everyone is a schizo or fucking their dog.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >real world cats are almost on the bottom of the food chain
                That was the original post gay.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cats
                >in a thread about housecats
                >"i can not win this so i will reinterpret your post to refer to all of felidae including extinct tigers"
                i won. cats, not felidae, the cats in the OP, are near the bottom of the food chain. they are only an environmental problem because retards like you artificially bolster their numbers. lmao deal with it. you lost.

                Spotted the projecting smelly shitbeast lover. Enjoy dog grease in your bed and having to physically handle steaming shit in public.

                >catredditor

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cats are more than domestic you dumbass

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >autist redefines word out of context so he can win
                Why would anyone use "cat" to mean "the domestic cat" in a thread about the domestic cat? They must be talking about all of felidae! Durrrr.

                I win.

                >talks about cats needing size to beat dogs
                >gets fucked when shows multiple footage of canines getting btfo by similar or smaller animals
                >i-i won

                Talking about hunting success rates, not one on one fights. Why do toxobrains always move the goalposts? Because a goal was obviously about to be scored, aka:

                I win.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No you talked about cats being "wolf food" if they were bigger and as many people pointed out dire wolves did jack squad against jaguars and Female leopards(which are smaller or as big as wolves) kill wolves on a daily basis
                wolves would need a size advantage to beat cougars, leopards , tigers and the such if they were the same size. you don't win

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                btw this is the leopardess that eats wolves. fucking embarrassing tbh

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Canadian timberwolves are the size of a kangal. European wolves are smaller than one and have suffered the worst of the dysgenic effects of human extermination since the wolf population in europe was properly decimated, and the wolf population in america was rebuilt from giant canadian timberwolves.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and leopardess are those size my guy. the sexual dimorphism with leopards is very well known if you knew anything about animals in general

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A leopardess manages to kill one wolf that's the same size as her
                Oh wow. good job.

                you don't win because replied to a post that mentions on average so the second you fell for the bait and used 1 sample of an entire species you lost

                I won because you refused to play. Largely because you knew you wouldn't win that one. The domestic cat, as well as its wild ancestor, and as close to the bottom of the food chain as a mammalian predator of that size can get.

                So you started a more generalized canid vs. felid war, but then average hunting success rates for each species weren't working out in your favor (the larger cats have pitiful hunting success rates despite being more untouched and living with higher prey densities) so now you're trying to argue 1v1 battles.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope that was the topic since the beginning. before any mention of African wild dogs there was this comment in which you replied too with a wrong answer
                >when it comes to hunting felines have been better on average
                >on average
                then your NPC brain activated and expected to win when you mentioned awds when they only represent 1 sample of the species
                so yes, i win and you lose twice
                >cats are better hunters than canines on average
                >wolves get fucked by cats around the same size

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I win the original argument that you refused to engage in (cats - that orange thing in the OP, are near the bottom of the food chain). I also win the other one, because wild dogs are the most successful predator on earth and wolves are as good as lions despite being decimated and living in a decimated environment instead of prey-rich africa, which strongly implies they would be as successful as wild dogs in better conditions.
                >wolf: 1
                >big cat manages to kill a lone juvenile wolf
                >packs of wolves still slaughter puma cubs
                Wolf food lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you don't win because replied to a post that mentions on average so the second you fell for the bait and used 1 sample of an entire species you lost

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >talks about cats needing size to beat dogs
                >gets fucked when shows multiple footage of canines getting btfo by similar or smaller animals
                >i-i won

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >canines getting btfo by similar or smaller animals
                A dog getting startled and jumping back isn't getting blown the fuck out.
                Normal, dogs can easily kill cats and small animals.
                No, your suburbanite purse poodle isn't a dog.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Head to head fights as well lol

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep seething and coping dogfag, you're never getting any of that time you've lost handling shit, apologizing for bad behavior, and missing out on life because you've got to take care of a shit smelling rapebeast constantly lmfao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >reddit

                Nope that was the topic since the beginning. before any mention of African wild dogs there was this comment in which you replied too with a wrong answer
                >when it comes to hunting felines have been better on average
                >on average
                then your NPC brain activated and expected to win when you mentioned awds when they only represent 1 sample of the species
                so yes, i win and you lose twice
                >cats are better hunters than canines on average
                >wolves get fucked by cats around the same size

                you insisted on changing the topic constantly every time you lost

                For example you lost the moment i was talking about domestic cats, because I was right, so you went to ALL CANINES VS. ALL FELINES ON AVERAGE. Unfortunately you should have taken the L and read the context correctly, that the cats I was talking about were the cats everyone else was talking about. And you began to lose, because hunting success rates were not working out for your argument, your best was extinct canines going extinct before extinct felines and a crackpot theory as to why. The average of all cats is necessarily below 60%, which is the highest contributed by the black footed cat. The average of all dogs, assuming 20% for wolves, 85% for AWDs, is 52%. The average for all cats for which a success rate can be known is 36.3%. AWDs are too successful for cat average to be higher. So, you changed the topic to one on one battles. I was never talking about one on one battles, never, at any point. I was talking about hunt success rates since it was assumed I already won the "domestic cats are prey" thing (they are). And now you are losing again, because you've moved the goalpost twice and the best you can do is one small leopard that managed to kill one small wolf from one of the most dysgenic wolf populations on earth.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've never changed any subject. notice how I keep talking about felines being better hunters on average and I still hold on to that because it's true.
                Lions, Domestic cats, cheetahs, leopards and black footed cats are all above the wolf. it's literally saying cats are the fastest land animals because the cheetahs are the fastest land animal, which is incorrect

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, you kept changing the subject. I said CATS, the CATS IN THE OP, the CATS EVERYONE WAS TALKING ABOUT, were near the bottom of the food chain. This is true. They are even prey for other felines. That's it. You never challenged that one, you lost when you decided I was talking about cats that were not in any way related to the topic of the thread.

                And here you can't even stick to your own "on average" goalpost move.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes cats are all cats. if you said domestic cats then okay, but cats are vague lmao.
                and yes felines are better hunters on average, why do you keep disputing this? Jaguars, lions, cougars, domestic cats, black footed cats cheetahs >wolves.
                Do you still think canines are better hunters on average kek?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                if you said cats (the group) were the fastest land animal on average they still wouldn't be very fast. although the cheetah is very fast, most cats are very slow. the fastest group of land animals is the atriodactyls.

                yes cats are all cats. if you said domestic cats then okay, but cats are vague lmao.
                and yes felines are better hunters on average, why do you keep disputing this? Jaguars, lions, cougars, domestic cats, black footed cats cheetahs >wolves.
                Do you still think canines are better hunters on average kek?

                >cats are all cats
                cats, in a domestic cat thread, when everyone is talking about cats? what cats could those be?

                >on average
                average 60 58 38 32 25 5 = 36.3
                average 85 20 = 52.5

                and that 20% is wolves, the decimated species that normally lives in decimated environments compared to cats that are tripping over food in untouched jungles and plains teeming with massive herds of prey lmao. even if you took the average of all wolves instead of NA wolves (14%) the average for dogs would still be higher. that's what on average means... even if you have many good performers, one great performer can drag another group's average higher. and the bad performer has a really good excuse, while the bad performers of the other group (like lions) have no excuses for not being better than timberwolves.

                shouldn't have said "on average" if you were too stupid to know how averages worked. no wonder you went to the brainlets favor, one on one battles.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cougars are near 80 and jaguars are 30% so nope

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nooo the real numbers based on real data don't count i want to use extrapolated best case scenario numbers
                Okay. Wolves have an 85% success rate just like wild dogs because we're going to count little pockets of remaining nature where there are africa level prey populations where there is, like africa, not enough snow to impede movement.

                In reality the cougar's hunt success rate is 20%.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wolves actually have a low success rate because they sometimes they commonly give up or end up having no intention of killing their prey. . okay show me proof of the reality of cougars success rate?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wolves have a low success rate
                The most dysgenic and thoroughly fucked over predator in the most fucked over, sparse, disrupted ecosystems has a success rate against its usual food (deer) barely trailing that of the "king of the jungle" who lives on plains teeming with massive herds of prey. Not just teeming, artificially teeming, because human expansion in africa has forced animals in closer together but hasn't been going on long enough to cause massive depopulation of prey animals, just predators, meaning the lions have more food and less competition than ever. Not a good look.

                And since you really, really wanted to change the subject to "dogs/cats on average", the high wild dog average and okay wolf average together beats the average of all the sorta good cats. Sorry.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Here is the most flattering study I found for cougars. The best case scenario based on things that actually happened instead of "i think based on this they should have"
                >Cougars killed ungulates at rates near the upper end of the previously recorded range, and demography substantially influenced annual kill rate in terms of both number of ungulates (subad F [SAF] = 24, subad M [SAM] = 31, ad M = 35, ad F = 42, ad F with kittens < 6 months = 47, ad F with kittens > 6 months = 67)
                >https://www.jstor.org/stable/40801501
                Now we know that not all cougars are females with kittens, but we're going to be nice to "all cats" *which were never the subject to begin with* and use their number anyways.
                average 67 60 58 38 32 25 5 = 40.7
                Nope, still not higher than "all dogs". Shouldn't have demanded averages if you didn't know how they worked.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah I knew it was BS. no animal can have that success rate and especially the type of animals wolves, and AWD go for. this is why small type cats do better than pantherines

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >domestic dog
                >wolf
                kek

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How does that look like a fucking dog?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                schizofag is a dumbass. knows nothing about dogs or cats and gets BTFO once you bring up facts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If wolves just got slightly bigger tigers would be fucked
                Dire wolves already did this and didn't do anything to stuff like Pleistocene giant jaguars so I doubt it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the fuck is this retarded discussion. Yes wolves have higher hunting success rates than big cats, yes a big cat will demolish a wolf in a fight. In what way does either of these make one "better" than the other? These are two entirely different animals

                >If wolves just got slightly bigger tigers would be fucked and the world would be split between dogs and bears.
                Big canids can't work like that because the food requirements for a pack are just too high, which is why the giant Borophagines opted for a big cat style ambush strategy and no surprise they weren't particularly good at it

                [...]
                Cats= all cats.
                canines = all canines not just AWD
                cats are better than canines on average

                >cats are better than canines on average
                In what way? Because it sure isn't success rates

                I win the original argument that you refused to engage in (cats - that orange thing in the OP, are near the bottom of the food chain). I also win the other one, because wild dogs are the most successful predator on earth and wolves are as good as lions despite being decimated and living in a decimated environment instead of prey-rich africa, which strongly implies they would be as successful as wild dogs in better conditions.
                >wolf: 1
                >big cat manages to kill a lone juvenile wolf
                >packs of wolves still slaughter puma cubs
                Wolf food lmao

                >wolves are as good as lions despite being decimated and living in a decimated environment instead of prey-rich africa
                This is kind of a retarded comparison when you forget lions are hunting much larger and more difficult prey than wolves in nearly every case

                yes cats are all cats. if you said domestic cats then okay, but cats are vague lmao.
                and yes felines are better hunters on average, why do you keep disputing this? Jaguars, lions, cougars, domestic cats, black footed cats cheetahs >wolves.
                Do you still think canines are better hunters on average kek?

                >if you said domestic cats then okay, but cats are vague lmao
                If somebody says cats are near the bottom of the food chain, they obviously don't mean all cats when big cats are the very top of the food chain in basically every environment they're in

                In other news, catfags and dogfags deserve the rope

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                wolves have a 14% success rate, anon. they have it low because they purposely give up on their attempts

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dogs attack owners their own all the time and no one gives a shit. why is this thread worthy?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're clinically depressed and the thought of human happiness is deeply disturbing to you.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What, are you afraid of a little blood and a little pain? Kek, you absolute female. I encourage my cat playfighting, scratching and biting me, and she loves me for it. Sometimes I'm just sitting at my desk and she's gonna run out of nowhere at me, stop a meter away, then arc her back as if she's getting ready for a fight, and so I just start chasing her around the house. She fucking loves it.
    She spoons me every night when I go to sleep and outside of designated play times has never bitten anyone. Stop being such a fucking gigantic gay, you live with a predator, play with it like its a predator.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yesterday one of the dogs ate an old pile of dog poop. Never had a cat do that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >owns multiple dogs and cats that have access to old piles of poop
      i know exactly what kind of person you are and i don't like it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have two huskies and have never had either of them eat poop. One tried to eat deer poop once, but I didn't let them. It's really that simple.

      I guess a lab wouldn't have as much luck. They have a genetic disorder that makes them so hungry they'd eat a tin can if it smelled like something.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    never had issues with scratching. I had a cat that would give half-ass bites but he stopped after some beatings.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have two cats.
    One was aggressive when he was a kitten, we believe it's because he was separated from the mom too soon by the person we adopted it from. Now he's somewhat friendly though and doesn't bite or scratch me when I pet him.
    The second cat is a literal angel. He doesn't know the concept of violence.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is so me lol

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    speaking of cucks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cuck
      If I recall, the dog was put down
      >Pick up a street dog
      >Everyone knows street dogs have been beaten and abused by subhumans
      >Get next to street dogs face
      >Usually when a human body part is near an abused dogs face, the dog is expecting it to hurt them
      >Dog freaks out
      >Humans kill dog

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        source?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this wall of cope
        Yep a cuck. I bet you pick up shit too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          every time someone goes on about the shit angle i remember that the only person IRL I have ever heard give a shit was a black muslim man yelling at my father calling him dirty from his apartment balcony, shouting some shit about "IF YOU TOUCH THAT YOU ARE CURSED! IF YOU TOUCH THAT BEAST YOU ARE UNCLEAN! BY ALLAH IF YOUR CURSED ASS GET NEAR THIS BUILDING AND CURSE MY HOME I WILL ALALALAA"

          so i assume they're all crazy heretics (aka any non-christian) who think what is basically dirt that gets handled more carefully than normal, equally dirty dirt (two layers of plastic bags) contains evil spirits, yet live in filth themselves

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            also they don't seem to have a problem panning for turds with that festering scoop that has never been washed

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            its a pointless thing to focus on when cat owners have shit sitting in the open air in their homes, bird owners have shit wherever the bird wants to shit, rat owners have piss trails on everything, and ferrets are one of the few pets that objectively stink. most cat owners i know use a short handled scoop to clean the litterbox and then wash their hands after touching doorknobs, and their cats come and go as they please and leave little dirty pawprints and track litter across the house.

            all things considered dogfags are the clean freaks of pet owners. they waste plastic double bagging shit, they have special devices for washing their dogs paws off, they're constantly brushing, wiping down, and bathing their pets, and if they don't have the time for all that they don't even let them inside. i have never seen someone brush a cat with a vacuum attachment even if it was a heavy shedder, rather they wait until hairballs dry up to start looking for them, but apparently dogfags do that all the time. on a nightly basis.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I have no idea why more cat owners don't keep the litterbox outside and dump the whole thing with a liner/garbage bag combo. It's so much cleaner.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because they mistakenly believe cats are clean for licking their outermost layer of fur roughly 2 hours after it's been dirty and rubbing against everything.
                >Cat: i can smell myself now. i must hurriedly disguise my scent once more so i can hide from predators.
                >Human: Awww he's bathing
                If you dunk those fuckers in water it turns gray/brown. Newsflash you have to take care of animals and put in extra effort to keep your home clean. Humans are just as dirty and having an additional human in your home is a horrid health risk, but you can at least convince them to clean up the dirt as they go.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >crazy heretics (aka any non-christian
            Cucktian
            Your book is gnomish

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol dandy white males will talk about how "feminine" cats are while worshipping drooling idiots that obey their every word and take abuse and are literally afraid that cats have supernatural zombie powers and dangerous scratching powers. Is there such a thing as a bigger bitch than an upper class white male? That's where all the chuds and feds come from too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget garden gnomes, the alien parasites.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >drooling idiots that obey their every word and take abuse
      the mastiff thread is over there pal
      Wauf is a collie board

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My family adopted the cat that lived with my great uncle after he passed. She's actually a very sweet old thing and I was seriously afraid I might start liking cats in general.
    But then she started pissing shitting and puking everywhere on the reg and making our house smell like the pits of inferno from which no amount of chemicals can save us. Now I'm not so worried about becoming a cat person.
    God it stinks.
    God it FUCKING stinks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just fucking kill it pussy. Stuff it in a pillowcase and drown it in the tub

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >old animal
      >stinks and pukes
      animal its an old animal they are like that even old people are like that. My grandpa puked and stank bas he was dying as his body struggled due to cancer same thing happened to his brother lab who was also old and had cancer

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        had old dog after old dog

        when they get old they're content to lie in the grass all day and all night. no problems. no puke, shit, or piss in the house. i can't imagine why you'd force them inside when they usually want to be in the grass because it's nice, comfy, and cool. maybe if you're one of those gays with a chud lawn.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          well get the cat checked after all he is old he may be sick after all old the dogs that i knew that puked were all sick due to age

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Our pet animals have never bit or scratched me.

    Unlike all female members of my family.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds hot, tell us stories anon

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When my cat scratches me I throw them across the room.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pain makes me feel alive. Also my cat takes it as much as he attacks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pain makes me feel alive
      Poor psycho freak

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My gf owns two cats. They eat out of her hand, sometimes touching her and trying to take the place of meat themselves. They also fuck around with the trash bin. She does nothing about this, so I throw them a shush or hiss to discipline them.

    It works to a certain degree, which leads me to believe she just... Didn't bother? I asked her and she said they're the household children and giggled.

    Why indeed are cat owners (sometimes) cucks? It's an animal, you ought to give them love but also discipline.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Comes from their brain controlling urine. It pacifies the owner, making them want more cats, lowering the boundaries so the owner will allow anything. Cat people are zombies. Real life NPCs. The real conspiracy black pill - cats.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And what about that young girl and the ferocious dog? How could her br-....

      oh yeah, nevermind.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wanting to fuck a dog out of sheer admiration for its loyalty and companionship is way different to wanting to own a cat because it literally implants you with brain parasites.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There it is, the eternal "big strong, masculine" dandy afraid of kittens with mind control powers.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >loyalty and companionship
          Lol

          I'm pretty certain all zoophiles are catfags which is why the official dog of zoophiles is the most catlike dog

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The overwhelming majority of furmorons are obsessed with canids
            >This means furfags like cats

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Furfags like canids
              >But only pointy eared, stubborn, independent ones that can kill their own food
              >Second most popular thing after pointy eared, independent, stubborn, hunter killer dogs is big cats, especially leopards and cheetahs
              Furries are cat people. Even when they like dogs, they have a catfag bias against normal dogs that treat you like god instead of food dispenser.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus you're actually truly retarded. Are you sure dogs aren't carrying brain parasites?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                anon dogs carry a lot of stuff even toxo hell they probably carry stuff we dont know like how they carry that flesh eating virus

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dogs carry toxo
                Toxo can't lay eggs except in a cat's gut (and possibly a hyena's) so you'd only ever get toxo from eating the dog. The flesh eating virus thing, they get it from humans because someone had the great idea to pass a shag carpet around in a hospital full of sick people who should be treated like the lepers they are.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                dogs as well

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                spoilers, it's the exact same bacteria carried by both animals. if it enters the bloodstream of an immunocompromised person (ie: with AIDS) they get sepsis.

                it's so rare most doctors don't know how to diagnose it. imagine the specific set of circumstances to get sepsis from a cat or dog
                >have an open sore on your hand
                >pet a freshly licked cat
                >let your dog lick the sore
                >this is fine

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought dogs healed you when they licked you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I had a girlfriend years ago that believed that. She had a sore eye one day and let the dog lick it and spouted the same bullshit. Instant conjunctivitis the next day kek.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >sore eye
                she had conjunctivitis the first day too

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Indeed. It was so much worse the day after, weeping and oozing shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Coronavirus vaccine cripples your immune system too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's why i said they carry it *too*

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                why is it always a shitbull owner

                my dad had a mentally broken rat terrier try to remove his finger and he killed it on the spot. that dog was hit so hard it didn't even have time to yelp.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                what kind of roid rage fag dad do you have who mentally broke a rat terrier?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Furfags like foxes and wolves, domestic dogs (mostly huskies and collies) are about as popular as big cats

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            MEOW

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              oh my god they're actually cats

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anon mentions white women fucking dogs
          >different anon immediately carries on about loyalty and shit

          Dog owners? More like dog onaholers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spotted the projecting smelly shitbeast lover. Enjoy dog grease in your bed and having to physically handle steaming shit in public.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        sounds better than living with a steaming litterbox inside your home tbh

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Steaming

          Auto boxes and plastic scoops exist you lazy turd zoomer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what magic antibacterial ability do catgays think those tiny handled festering plastic shit scoops have?

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    someone please post the girl's abdomen's scratched up after she got done being knotted

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My cousins own 3 cats and they're all very docile, one literally hunts and eats lizards and its still easy to pet and hold

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Strangely my most affectionate cat is also the biggest killer. Seen her eat birds whole from beak to feet and rip entire nests of mice and rats to pieces. Never once attacked me and regularly comes for cuddles under the duvet

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The most affectionate, loves-all-people dogs are also the ones with the highest prey drive that will even kill, and eat, smaller dogs. That's not unique to your cat, or cats, it's a pattern in nature.

        Pic related. Borzoi are known to eat strange puppies if they spot them at a distance. They're really not even that safe around newborns because they don't look, act, smell, or sound like people. They're also therapy dog tier calm and affectionate.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is Wauf so low iq? do they know that for every 1 cat owner that sucks cock there will be another 100 dog owner that does the same?

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3634293/dog-attack-ripped-nose-off-not-blame-dog/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a cope

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gabrielle Myers, 31, was petting another dog when an American Pit Bull-cross leaped at her and clamped his jaws from her forehead down to her chin.
      I don't believe pitbulls are dogs

      I also do not believe anyone who tolerates those subcanines should be allowed to call themselves a "dog lover". Loving a mindless beast that was selectively bred for two centuries to murder real dogs that actually have minds and morals is the opposite of being a dog lover. It's being a dog hater and cheering for bloodshed.

      WIR MUSSEN SIE SHITBULL AUSROTTEN!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pitbulls are orcs my dude.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My cat has never scratched me. I can touch her belly and grab her hind legs and she doesn't care.
    Other cats will hiss at me if I even get close. It's about how you raise them. If you stop touching them ever 5 seconds and forcing them to "cuddle" with you as if they were a dog they'll learn that physical contact is a privilege and not something to avoid.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cats feel gross

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same here. My cat has never ever scratched me. I can stick my fingers down her ears and she'll just show a look of discomfort.

      I think bitchy aggressiveness is an outdoor cat thing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think bitchy aggressiveness is an outdoor cat thing.
        Outdoor or indoor has no effect on how they act.
        All the aggressive cats are owned by women. Women constantly stress their cats out by touching them and then catching them whenever they try to get away.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is OP always such a gay?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Checked

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