I have no issue with eating bugs, but the idea of replacing meat with them entirely doesn't make sense. Wouldn't the scale of operations needed to grow, harvest and process bugs as a full replacement end up producing the same amount of waste as meat farming? Only to produce one product, whereas a cow produces about a dozen or so things.
I think part of the idea comes from the fact that bugs can be farmed in a cave whereas mammals require more space that is more specific and dependent on certain infrastructure.
The other part of the idea is that bugs are bugs and their welfare is... they're bugs who cares.
Beef and whatnot isn't going away. It will obviously be more and more expensive as supply struggles with demand. But humans in various parts of the world have pretty much always eaten bugs, so it only a matter of time before they make it to the menu in the rest of the world. As everyone points out, the difference between a locust (ironically for Wauf schizos locusts are popular to eat in Israel) and shrimp is pretty moot. If you eat shrimp but won't eat bugs you're just being silly.
Yeah, sure. I don't really care what anyone eats. I just find it silly when someone will eat one animal and not a very similar animal because "it's gross". Have more respect for people who don't eat stuff for religious reasons more than "it's gross" honestly.
Shrimps have meat inside them. You can remove everything and leave just the insides to eat. Everything is smooth and mellow.
Bugs, in the other hand, are hard and full of juices and goo. Not pleasant and we are naturally wired to be repulsed at the thought of eating them.
It's honestly concerning that adult people who think like this exist.
The only circumstances where you've seen the innards of an insects was when you crushed a live one on the floor.
If you crushed a live shrimp or cow in the same way they would be just as wet and slimy. Neither of those animals contain firm cooked meat while alive, gooey is the natural state of all living beings.
They're more efficient. Less bones and stuff. But not much more than chickens unless you're penny pinching, especially not when you consider most of them have fewer calories.
Personally I don’t think we should replace meat entirely, just add bugs to the equation. Bugs can eat plant parts that cows, chicken, pigs, etc can’t. For example the BSF mentioned before can grow on shit, food scraps, food industry waste, etc. I saw a guy growing them entirely on used coffee powder. Probably the ones being raised on used coffee powder alone aren’t as nutritious as the ones Eating food scraps but it shows how resilient they are. Another thing is that mammals and birds are warm blooded animals constantly using energy to produce heat but if it is too hot they use energy to cool themselves, this is a problem when you have a lot of animals in a confined space. Personally I think bugs will be added to food like how soya products are added to all sort of products nowadays. Back to BSF you can produce oil, protein, chitin (important for a series of industrial and laboratorial applications). The fat could be converted in biodiesel or food for human or animal consumption, protein also animal or human consumption, i have seen the whole bug dry being sold as animal food. Also soya products seems to have a negative effect on fish and carnivores so insect protein would be an improvement on pisciculture and pet food over soya.
19 February 2008
Experts from around the world have gathered in Chiang Mai, Thailand, at a meeting organized by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) to discuss the human consumption of insects, some of which have as much protein as meat and fish.
It could turn out living in a pod makes you live longer and they'd still make us do it and steal our blood or something.
It's about subjegation, humiliation and control as much as anything else.
Aliens could offer us post scarcity and some globalist garden gnome would smash the manna machine.
Not a NWO agent, but people who have eaten bugs have said they taste like potato chips. They're also pretty easy to farm because they reproduce quickly and they'll eat pretty much anything.
I tried some crickets and they tasted like crackers. I really didn’t expect that eating something protein rich would taste like that.
Anyway we should eat bugs at least indirectly. We could raise black soldier fly on food waste and use these to feed chickens and we eat the chickens/eggs. They are rich in calcium and protein so we would need less grains to feed the chickens and reduce pollution from waste at the same time while producing fertilizer. Can raise black soldier fly on manure as well so we can make the whole system even more efficient. Those could also be used to other animals like pigs etc. could also be processed and separate the fat from proteins so we can balance the nutrients and make dry food instead of feeding them directly.
>raise black soldier fly on manure
But you don't remove a bugs stomach contents before eating it, so wouldn't this be basically like eating the manure indirectly?
in the BSF lifecycle it will stop eating a few days before migrating to a drier location to become a pupae, so they empty their digestive tracts by themselves. This behavior is used on automatic harvesting systems. While they are edible and supposedly taste good I know people are put of by the idea of eating bugs so my proposal is to use them for animal feed. They could be used to make feed for any animal that would eat bugs normally like fish, birds and pig and probably should be safe for herbivores as well since they will eat animal protein if given the chance. They could be processed into pet food as well and probably will be better than all the grain they put on regular pet food.
Also the adult doesn't need to eat. It can drink nectar or water but it won't lay on your food and puke gastric juices on it to drink digested food like regular flies nor it will fly around being a nuisance, their main focus is reproduction and they kinda look neat with their fake wasp looks
This is ingenious. We will reap the pig, and the proles can have the bugs.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Read bro! Read! The bugs serve as animal feed so you can produce more animals.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Do we really have to use pigs? They are as smart as dogs, although more selfish and driven, and taste like people. Maybe we can use a herd animal that weirdly likes dying instead? Sheep seem to basically kill themselves.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Can use anything, pig have the advantage that all products are not consumed by neither muslim nor garden gnomes so poltards have one thing less to cry about.
>so they empty their digestive tracts by themselves. This behavior is used on automatic harvesting systems
How much would it cost to set up a BSF colony farm that could feed 1 person?
Bugs are always at least mildly anti-nutritious, calorie poor, and can not replace actual meat.
However they are LESS anti-nutritious than plant based foods, more calorie rich than plant based foods, and contain almost all of the same nutrients we need aside from some one offs mostly found in fruits, and have protein and roughage instead of just roughage.
Bugs actually replace salad. What did our ancestors eat?
I guess it depends on the bug. In BSF case it does all the eating in the larval phase so they store a lot of fat for the metamorphose and adult life making them not ideal to be used for animal nutrition without adding other stuff to balance the diet. This can be solved by processing them and separating the fat, some fat can be returned when making animal feed and the rest of the fat could be used to make biodiesel or human consumption. My personal guess not based on any study is that it would be a good food for egg laying chickens since it is rich in calcium and fat and those are two things the chicken need for making eggs
Fat is good for you and contributes to what few calories bugs have.
It's the chitin that contains the most anti-nutrients in a bug so you don't want to eat the adults
6 months ago
Anonymous
I did read some scientific papers and BSF are not ideal as the only food for the animals in the studies. The one I remember right now were frogs but I think I saw at least one more about a different animal. They are good as part of the diet but are not a balanced diet by themselves. processing them would allow to separate protein, fat and chitin and chitin have a wide range of uses so it wouldn't be a waste either. Also the mature larva have a thick carapace as well, these are some hardy babies.
>and they'll eat pretty much anything.
Can't wait for the lawsuits to roll in because Bill Gates Farms tried to save a nickle by gut stuffing with polluted crops from China.
What would china export? They are the ones buying soya, rice, corn etc from around the world. They do export adultered/spoiled/etc meat and dairy. I remember some years ago they were caught selling expired chicken meat so countries started buying from Brazil instead. Instead of taking the chance to dominate the market Brazil did the same selling chicken and beef adultered/expired and got caught as well a little latter. Stupid morons who only think on short term gain without realizing they are fucking the entire country and themselves in doing so.
The fucking baby formula thing was what got me.
Dipshits killed a bunch of babies trying to cut costs by replacing an actual food ingredient with poison. Brilliant.
That was an american export actually. We just used chinese facilities so a leak wouldn't fuck us (as badly) and for the looser laws and authoritarian state cooperation.
Safe but not really tasty i hear. Roaches are pretty chitinous.
I hear black soldier fly larvae are the way to go. Also good for reptiles, but allegedly more palatable than the commonly eaten insects.
Arachnids are apparently closer to crustaceans than insects in flavor, which makes sense.
>Arachnids are apparently closer to crustaceans than insects in flavor, which makes sense.
no it doesnt, crustaceans are more related to insects than arachnids
This tbh. People that eat 500 dollar steaks and snort coke off a 12-year-old sex slave's ass every day want us living in pods and eating bugs so they can continue to live in excess. If all of us were in the same boat? Sure, I'll do my part. But that's not the case.
That's my plan, I'll eat the bugs, sure. But the moment I find out someone is eating meat, I'm taking as many bites out of them as I can before their bodyguards brain me.
You already eat bugs
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredients-additives-gras-packaging-guidance-documents-regulatory-information/food-defect-levels-handbook#commodities
Defect action level for apple butter: Average of 5 or more whole or equivalent insects (not counting mites, aphids, thrips, or scale insects) per 100 grams of apple butter
so 4 bugs per 100 grams is ok, not counting aphids, thrips or scale insects.
oh wow i didnt know that!!! omg D: holy shiut i need to tell my friends and family at once surely they dont know about this thanks anon you are so intelligent
You already eat bugs
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredients-additives-gras-packaging-guidance-documents-regulatory-information/food-defect-levels-handbook#commodities
Defect action level for apple butter: Average of 5 or more whole or equivalent insects (not counting mites, aphids, thrips, or scale insects) per 100 grams of apple butter
so 4 bugs per 100 grams is ok, not counting aphids, thrips or scale insects.
I'll eat what I want, and I won't eat what I don't want. I refuse to participate in this bizarre humiliation ritual.
Hopefully never
God I wish I was that bug
you first cultist
Sorry but I won't, I don't eat animals.
When they become tasty
YOU WILL EAT ZE BUGS
I'm taking the molluskpill instead
allergycels need not apply
The perfect food source. A plant that grows meat.
When they get a better texture. My autism can't handle cricket exoskeletons, but it's willing to eat cricket flour.
i could handle it if was similar to a light pulp, although I've never had it to begin with. I imagine it's like grains of sand
I have no issue with eating bugs, but the idea of replacing meat with them entirely doesn't make sense. Wouldn't the scale of operations needed to grow, harvest and process bugs as a full replacement end up producing the same amount of waste as meat farming? Only to produce one product, whereas a cow produces about a dozen or so things.
I think part of the idea comes from the fact that bugs can be farmed in a cave whereas mammals require more space that is more specific and dependent on certain infrastructure.
The other part of the idea is that bugs are bugs and their welfare is... they're bugs who cares.
Beef and whatnot isn't going away. It will obviously be more and more expensive as supply struggles with demand. But humans in various parts of the world have pretty much always eaten bugs, so it only a matter of time before they make it to the menu in the rest of the world. As everyone points out, the difference between a locust (ironically for Wauf schizos locusts are popular to eat in Israel) and shrimp is pretty moot. If you eat shrimp but won't eat bugs you're just being silly.
except i can remove the nasty from a shrimp not a locust other than that you have no fucking clue about classification
Yes yes. Autism.
We get it bro. Your an idiot who knows facts.
Still silly for eating shrimp but afraid of a bug LMAO
I don't eat shellfish. Can you forgive me for not eating the bugs?
Yeah, sure. I don't really care what anyone eats. I just find it silly when someone will eat one animal and not a very similar animal because "it's gross". Have more respect for people who don't eat stuff for religious reasons more than "it's gross" honestly.
You canconebup with all the excuses you want lol
Shrimps have meat inside them. You can remove everything and leave just the insides to eat. Everything is smooth and mellow.
Bugs, in the other hand, are hard and full of juices and goo. Not pleasant and we are naturally wired to be repulsed at the thought of eating them.
It's honestly concerning that adult people who think like this exist.
The only circumstances where you've seen the innards of an insects was when you crushed a live one on the floor.
If you crushed a live shrimp or cow in the same way they would be just as wet and slimy. Neither of those animals contain firm cooked meat while alive, gooey is the natural state of all living beings.
They're more efficient. Less bones and stuff. But not much more than chickens unless you're penny pinching, especially not when you consider most of them have fewer calories.
Personally I don’t think we should replace meat entirely, just add bugs to the equation. Bugs can eat plant parts that cows, chicken, pigs, etc can’t. For example the BSF mentioned before can grow on shit, food scraps, food industry waste, etc. I saw a guy growing them entirely on used coffee powder. Probably the ones being raised on used coffee powder alone aren’t as nutritious as the ones Eating food scraps but it shows how resilient they are. Another thing is that mammals and birds are warm blooded animals constantly using energy to produce heat but if it is too hot they use energy to cool themselves, this is a problem when you have a lot of animals in a confined space. Personally I think bugs will be added to food like how soya products are added to all sort of products nowadays. Back to BSF you can produce oil, protein, chitin (important for a series of industrial and laboratorial applications). The fat could be converted in biodiesel or food for human or animal consumption, protein also animal or human consumption, i have seen the whole bug dry being sold as animal food. Also soya products seems to have a negative effect on fish and carnivores so insect protein would be an improvement on pisciculture and pet food over soya.
I'll feed my bug rations to leopard geckos and eat their tails instead.
19 February 2008
Experts from around the world have gathered in Chiang Mai, Thailand, at a meeting organized by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) to discuss the human consumption of insects, some of which have as much protein as meat and fish.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2008/02/249402
You already eat shrimp and lobster
Schizo thread
Never. I will be eating animal products until the day I die.
Dumbass.
You unknowingly ingest insect eggs almost if not every day
Bug enjoyers...
It could turn out living in a pod makes you live longer and they'd still make us do it and steal our blood or something.
It's about subjegation, humiliation and control as much as anything else.
Aliens could offer us post scarcity and some globalist garden gnome would smash the manna machine.
Any non-pussy specie (Aka anything that isn't bees) that is farmed by humans will never go extinct
Eating bugs is trad and good
Cute, the girl is also pretty
>we
Never. Get some new to shill please
If they tasted like a French fry and I could farm them at home for next to nothing cost wise then I would.
Not a NWO agent, but people who have eaten bugs have said they taste like potato chips. They're also pretty easy to farm because they reproduce quickly and they'll eat pretty much anything.
I tried some crickets and they tasted like crackers. I really didn’t expect that eating something protein rich would taste like that.
Anyway we should eat bugs at least indirectly. We could raise black soldier fly on food waste and use these to feed chickens and we eat the chickens/eggs. They are rich in calcium and protein so we would need less grains to feed the chickens and reduce pollution from waste at the same time while producing fertilizer. Can raise black soldier fly on manure as well so we can make the whole system even more efficient. Those could also be used to other animals like pigs etc. could also be processed and separate the fat from proteins so we can balance the nutrients and make dry food instead of feeding them directly.
>raise black soldier fly on manure
But you don't remove a bugs stomach contents before eating it, so wouldn't this be basically like eating the manure indirectly?
in the BSF lifecycle it will stop eating a few days before migrating to a drier location to become a pupae, so they empty their digestive tracts by themselves. This behavior is used on automatic harvesting systems. While they are edible and supposedly taste good I know people are put of by the idea of eating bugs so my proposal is to use them for animal feed. They could be used to make feed for any animal that would eat bugs normally like fish, birds and pig and probably should be safe for herbivores as well since they will eat animal protein if given the chance. They could be processed into pet food as well and probably will be better than all the grain they put on regular pet food.
Also the adult doesn't need to eat. It can drink nectar or water but it won't lay on your food and puke gastric juices on it to drink digested food like regular flies nor it will fly around being a nuisance, their main focus is reproduction and they kinda look neat with their fake wasp looks
This is ingenious. We will reap the pig, and the proles can have the bugs.
Read bro! Read! The bugs serve as animal feed so you can produce more animals.
Do we really have to use pigs? They are as smart as dogs, although more selfish and driven, and taste like people. Maybe we can use a herd animal that weirdly likes dying instead? Sheep seem to basically kill themselves.
Can use anything, pig have the advantage that all products are not consumed by neither muslim nor garden gnomes so poltards have one thing less to cry about.
>so they empty their digestive tracts by themselves. This behavior is used on automatic harvesting systems
How much would it cost to set up a BSF colony farm that could feed 1 person?
Bugs are always at least mildly anti-nutritious, calorie poor, and can not replace actual meat.
However they are LESS anti-nutritious than plant based foods, more calorie rich than plant based foods, and contain almost all of the same nutrients we need aside from some one offs mostly found in fruits, and have protein and roughage instead of just roughage.
Bugs actually replace salad. What did our ancestors eat?
Bugs
Fruit
Meat
I guess it depends on the bug. In BSF case it does all the eating in the larval phase so they store a lot of fat for the metamorphose and adult life making them not ideal to be used for animal nutrition without adding other stuff to balance the diet. This can be solved by processing them and separating the fat, some fat can be returned when making animal feed and the rest of the fat could be used to make biodiesel or human consumption. My personal guess not based on any study is that it would be a good food for egg laying chickens since it is rich in calcium and fat and those are two things the chicken need for making eggs
Fat is good for you and contributes to what few calories bugs have.
It's the chitin that contains the most anti-nutrients in a bug so you don't want to eat the adults
I did read some scientific papers and BSF are not ideal as the only food for the animals in the studies. The one I remember right now were frogs but I think I saw at least one more about a different animal. They are good as part of the diet but are not a balanced diet by themselves. processing them would allow to separate protein, fat and chitin and chitin have a wide range of uses so it wouldn't be a waste either. Also the mature larva have a thick carapace as well, these are some hardy babies.
>and they'll eat pretty much anything.
Can't wait for the lawsuits to roll in because Bill Gates Farms tried to save a nickle by gut stuffing with polluted crops from China.
What would china export? They are the ones buying soya, rice, corn etc from around the world. They do export adultered/spoiled/etc meat and dairy. I remember some years ago they were caught selling expired chicken meat so countries started buying from Brazil instead. Instead of taking the chance to dominate the market Brazil did the same selling chicken and beef adultered/expired and got caught as well a little latter. Stupid morons who only think on short term gain without realizing they are fucking the entire country and themselves in doing so.
The fucking baby formula thing was what got me.
Dipshits killed a bunch of babies trying to cut costs by replacing an actual food ingredient with poison. Brilliant.
>What would china export?
Covid 19
That was an american export actually. We just used chinese facilities so a leak wouldn't fuck us (as badly) and for the looser laws and authoritarian state cooperation.
The bugs are fish food, you fucking goober.
Safe but not really tasty i hear. Roaches are pretty chitinous.
I hear black soldier fly larvae are the way to go. Also good for reptiles, but allegedly more palatable than the commonly eaten insects.
Arachnids are apparently closer to crustaceans than insects in flavor, which makes sense.
>Arachnids are apparently closer to crustaceans than insects in flavor, which makes sense.
no it doesnt, crustaceans are more related to insects than arachnids
Anon, I too have ADHD.
You might also have dyslexia.
youre projecting too hard
Bug eating is an important topic for survivalists/preppers. I don't get why chud hates ze bugs so much.
In general you can just collect/produce them easily at home so you don't depend on mass produced shit as much.
This tbh. People that eat 500 dollar steaks and snort coke off a 12-year-old sex slave's ass every day want us living in pods and eating bugs so they can continue to live in excess. If all of us were in the same boat? Sure, I'll do my part. But that's not the case.
Eat them instead! Here is the menu! https://epsteinsblackbook.com/all-names
That's my plan, I'll eat the bugs, sure. But the moment I find out someone is eating meat, I'm taking as many bites out of them as I can before their bodyguards brain me.
You already eat bugs
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredients-additives-gras-packaging-guidance-documents-regulatory-information/food-defect-levels-handbook#commodities
Defect action level for apple butter: Average of 5 or more whole or equivalent insects (not counting mites, aphids, thrips, or scale insects) per 100 grams of apple butter
so 4 bugs per 100 grams is ok, not counting aphids, thrips or scale insects.
oh wow i didnt know that!!! omg D: holy shiut i need to tell my friends and family at once surely they dont know about this thanks anon you are so intelligent
So, you're being sarcastic and you already knew you eat ze bugs or what?
actually he's saying
is a loser
If that's true, he sucks as demonstrating it.
>incidentally eating bugs is the same thing as forcing the serfs to eat them as a main part of their diet
>Subject is about eating bugs period
>Anon start talking about distinctions that are irrelevant to the discussion
>anon has nothing of value to add so he's arguing semantics to look clever
Semantics are relevant when a low reading comprehension individual is present
anon, what do you mean by "when" ?