What the FUCK.

What the FUCK.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why does nature have such freaky things?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    horseshoe crabs are trilobite bros

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a cope. These things are more closely related to spiders and scorpions.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Spiders evolved from things like that

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Southeast asians eat horseshoe crabs. I've heard they taste absolutely vile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i'd expect them to be tasty, but haven't tried em myself
      Land chelicerates with enough meat on them are quite good, much closer to their water cousins than to insects especially in texture.

      I don't have a very strong disgust response aside from shit and vomit, so insects are welcome on my plate as long as they're tasty. And honestly they aren't really, but chelicerates are. I've had tarantula tempura and it was on the same level as soft shell crab.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't this the crab whose blue blood is very valuable?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    looks delicious.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    these things are awesome, fucking love em

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine sticking your tongue in there

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ey mang, 'chu want to buy some slinkies?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly find horseshoes kinda cute. Cute living fossils. I like them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      agreed, they've been my favorite animal since I was a small child

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    test

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      THE GAME

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a Metroid

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    DECADES of math, and yet no actual proof of macroaddition.
    "Mathematicians" have been adding together numbers for countless years, and yet not one single documented case of two sets of one billion items coming together and forming two billion things.
    Don't get me wrong, microaddition is definitely real, we can add ten apples to a basket of ten, and have a basket of twenty apples. This is clearly observable.
    However, to assume this thinking applies to much larger baskets containing a billion or more apples is simply fallacious.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      but anon, we add together sets that large almost constantly.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m glad that we live on a planet where there are all sorts of creatures, even ones such as this.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Noooo believe in a process that makes no logical sense and cannot be demostrated

    https://i.imgur.com/6tbrCzP.jpg

    Alright then, see picrel. Webbed hands/feet on a human would be emergent, yes? If we bred those humans with webbed hands/feet only with others possessing the same trait, their offspring would be more likely to have webbed hands/feet would they not? Which would probably make them better at swimming.

    Once again, random mutations are a thing. If they weren't, then all animals today would be the same as all animals ever.
    Imagine you're rolling a million-sided die, or many dice, and a dozen or so of those faces are new traits. To land enough of those dice on the same faces (and enough times to match pairs or better) requires either a lot of dice and a very long time to roll them in, or impossible luck. What you're asking for is the latter.
    If that doesn't work for you, explain how previous species existed. Explain how or why the current animals that exist are the animals that currently exist. There are so, so many things that are not observable to us in our short lives or lab conditions, we often have to theorise probable causes based on the evidence we do have. I'd understand the rejection of this concept if there was an alternative that wasn't literally Deus Ex Machina.

    All of these mutations shown in modern people are disingenic and reduce the fitness of human beings. They are only allowed to exist because they are enabled by society at large. Almost all mutations are third nipple or down syndrome level, creating useless expenditures of that would get an individual killed

    >If that doesn't work for you, explain how previous species existed. Explain how or why the current animals that exist are the animals that currently exist.
    I don't have all of the answers, man. I'm just here to tell you that the theory you prescribe to doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to tell you how the world was created, but only that evolution makes no sense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >makes no logical sense
      Except it does make perfect sense, retard, through all the means described and demonstrated by myself and others here. If you're too thick to apply the things one can learn from a limited study to a wider concept then creative thinking, and probably learning in general, is just not for you.
      >All of these mutations shown in modern people are disingenic and reduce the fitness of human beings.
      This is how I know you're just not going to understand this, but I'm going to give it one more try. Some mutations have a negative effect, yes. Some are beneficial. The mutations don't OCCUR based on what's useful, they're random. However, in an environment where humans were reliant on swimming faster to survive, those webbed hands and feet would be advantageous and so the genes with those mutations would propagate slightly more effectively, even if the difference was minor. Thus would be trait become more prominent over time.
      I mean, for fuck's sake, there are humans born with the mutation of tetrachromacy, which is literally a complexifying of the eye. In our case, there is no selective pressure for it (or practically anything else in humans for that matter), so it doesn't make much difference; but are you really incapable of imagining how this concept can be applied to your original problem of 'eyes cannot be a product of evolution'?
      >I don't have all of the answers, man.
      You don't have any answers, by your own admission. You're saying that evolution doesn't make sense, but in reality, you just lack the imagination to visualise the vast numerical quantities and timescales involved when calculating the improbable (but inevitable) results. Monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare, my guy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare, my guy.
        We aren't going to come to an understanding. You keep insisting that your theory makes sense while simultaneously refusing to provide evidence for it. There are no fossils of transitionary organs. There are no lab studies that can show a emergent trait, period, much less one capable of proving macro-evolution. You seem to think that your theory being unobservable somehow proves it. All of this is not to mention the fact that evolution alligns with a gnomish world view, where the world has one beginning and one end state. Evolution is gay and gnomish, simple as

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >macroevolution
          Microevolution becomes macroevolution over time. It's really that simple. I've provided evidence, proof of it happening before our eyes, but you seem to be in a mindset where inference and hypothesis are both completely unfathomable, regardless of the amount of available supporting (and lack of opposing) evidence.
          >I don't get it, and I don't like it. Must be garden gnomes.
          The garden gnomes would absolutely love it if all white people were as incapable of observating empirical evidence as you. No one would ever think to call them out on the statistical anomalies surrounding them or their prolefeed narratives. I don't see how acceptance of the concept of evolution serves their agenda any more or less than belief in God/gods, except maybe that the latter will train people to be less observant and intuitive.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          please precisely define what you would accept as evidence of macroevolution

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't show me someone building a skyscraper in a single day, therefore the construction of a skyscraper is demonstrably impossible. QED.
          >Also, don't ask me where those skyscrapers came from, I don't have all the answers bro.
          That's (You). That's how dumb you sound.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare, my guy.
        We aren't going to come to an understanding. You keep insisting that your theory makes sense while simultaneously refusing to provide evidence for it. There are no fossils of transitionary organs. There are no lab studies that can show a emergent trait, period, much less one capable of proving macro-evolution. You seem to think that your theory being unobservable somehow proves it. All of this is not to mention the fact that evolution alligns with a gnomish world view, where the world has one beginning and one end state. Evolution is gay and gnomish, simple as

        an example in humans is sickle cell anemia. It's a trait that's overall not good, but also improves the body's response to malaria infection. malaria causes infected red blood cells to sickle in people with sickle cell anemia, which then causes the immune system to eliminate those infected cells, reducing the burden of the infection. Other things that cause hypoxia also cause the cell to sickle, which is bad, but in areas where malaria is more ubiquitous than health care it's less bad than not having sickle cell at all. So the sickle cell mutation has been selected for in Africa, and to this day people with African ancestry are much more likely to carry the genes that cause it.
        Because of a mutation and survival of the fittest, their environment selected for people with a congenital defect that helps protect them from a disease that still kills millions annually.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Resorting to ad-hominem
      Sorry your stepfather raped you when you were five, we are all here for you in these trying times ;(

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice photo essay about these fellers in the latest Nat Geo. Anyone here a subscriber?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try picking up a live one some time. If you grab them by the outside edge of the carapace they can't get you with their snibeti snabs or tail at all. They're really neat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they don't like it when you pick them up by their carapace. please stop doing this, or they will snibeti snab you if given the chance

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        horseshoe crab snippers typed this post

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just want pizza
          >get tendons snibbed by crab instead
          Deserving of death by huge pressure differential

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is the right one. The other one creates crabs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/vRwb6Lj.gif

            This is the right one. The other one creates crabs.

            Lobsters can't breathe in air bro, that thing probably ain't snabbing much of anything unless it was just caught, especially if it's store bought cuz those bands they put on it's claws atrophy the muscles and even if you put it back in water it'll take a few weeks for it to snab properly again.
            >t. used to work seafood counter in New England

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >zimbabwe
          black rule really rules

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it's a troll account fucktard

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >then the annunaki genetically engineered all modern life
    I couldn't tell you the nitty-gritty of the creation of life, but I do know that your theory doesn't hold water, which is why you started sperging in your post

    [...]

    > Actually hybridization explains the co-occurrence of a cornea and a lens
    Can you elaborate? I'm interested

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >We have the transitional forms
    No, you don't. The lack of transitional fossils was acknowledged by Darwin as one of the biggest holes in his theory. But, lo and behold, this gap has become more and more apparent as time goes on. No one can provide examples of half-formed eyes in the fossil record, only more "primitive" or different types of eyes. This is why modern gnomish scientists have to provide bullshit like the "Hopeful Monster Theory" to make evolution make sense. Your argument is anchored to the idea that your theory is inherently true, when it isn't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Has photoreceptors under skin formed from only two cells each
      psssh...nothin personnel...kid...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Chad worm knows he doesn't need "more evolved" eyes, but worm eyes. The theory of evolution denies the value of each creature on earth. Under evolution, psychopaths are actually the next stage of evolution because they can take advantage of high trust societies and outcompete loyal, honorable people.

        I should start composting. Worms are cool

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not suggesting that our beautiful annelids are less evolved than us, merely that they make do with simple proto-eyes which our extremely distant ancestors may also have had.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a big guy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >simple proto-eyes
            See, but that's the thing. Are they proto-eyes, or just two-celled photoreceptors perfect for the use of a worm. There is this ingrained view all of these species are like reflected relatives of a base form, when really they are all cool, different creatures uniquely suited for their own purposes.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Also,
          >"more evolved"
          could probably be described more accurately as "more complex" or better yet "more specialised". As you say, worm needs no complex eyes.
          Some mammals are embracing the old ways; rejecting modernity, returning to wormé.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can't wait for the mammalian equivalent to birds to show up

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, they a'comin'. Bit of a ways to go, but they a'comin'.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, every organism that's still alive in big populations is the exact amount of evolved it needs to be. Some just reached perfection and dominance sooner than others that had to flee from niche to niche and change a lot along the way.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Under evolution, psychopaths are actually the next stage of evolution because they can take advantage of high trust societies and outcompete loyal, honorable people.
          No because the honorable people have evolved to spot them and get revenge

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The arms race between the normies and the psychos....
            ...whoever wins, we lose.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >because they can take advantage of high trust societies and outcompete loyal, honorable people.
          Yes.
          The antidote is a trustless society.
          Incentivize truth.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >outcompete loyal, honorable people.

          Racism and intolerance is the cure.
          It allows a society to defend itself against such attacks and not become psychopathic itself

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's nice to see the conception of the universe as cyclical and the fact that nothing physical can live forever becoming more widespread. A causal loop is really the only temporal layout that would actually make sense.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck is this? I have seen the underside of a horseshoe crab before, was this always there? Is it parasites?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Presumably the gills are all out of shape because it's filled with sand.
      Underside of an alive one for reference:

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, this is really cool. I like their scuttering.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats are the gills, with wich they breath

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly don't want to know

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sorry for crashing into this out-medicated chatter, thought it's something else. .

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that horseshoe crabs were created when Yakub dumped excess melanin into the sea in an attempt to hide his treachery from the Kings of Nubia
    Sea fleas were SUPERCHARGED by MELANIN into the forms we see today, unchanged and resilient in the face of weak bilogical pressures to evolve from their perfected form

  24. 2 months ago
    death to israel.

    if god doesnt exist why does this cool freind exist

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AIEEEEEEEEE! S-STOP STARING, B-BAKA HENTAI!!!

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >doomsday happens
    >refuse to give in, kick so much ass that you get a special ticket to the next world
    >"fuck yeah, i can't wait to be alive again, i bet this new world is gonna be awesome"
    >immediately slain by odin
    >with your dying breaths, watch as hundreds of freakish bugs come crawling out of your spilled entrails

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's an unreasonable number of snibbs

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i seen em 2' across on the island, hispanics hunt them illegally in 8" visibility water with bullsharks and sawtooths

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they're UMAMI. :DD
    But you need to know how to clean them first.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When was the last time you thanked a horseshoe crab for the jab?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ how horrifying. Imagine if humans were strapped and forced to have their blood drained over and over until they died en masse

      Humans deserve to go extinct

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        but their useful blood is great for contamination tests

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean there was a time when humans got bled to death in order to create cures

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep. Just wait till you find out about factory farming.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But it was necessary to save society from literally the worst virus of all time

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are probably human organ farms in China.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Humans deserve to go extinct
        Imagine how much better the human race would if people who say this actually followed what they preached and killed themselves

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck of lizardmoron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literally the plot of that Daybreakers movie

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you go first

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ddin't we stop doing this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, because we can't replicate how the blood functions, so we just regulate how many we jab

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We can, but the best option is still blood.
          The BEST best option is farmed horseshoe crabs with controlled diets, but Big Crab doesn't want anyone to do that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Big Crab? Nobody is eating these these. They aren't even actual crabs. They're 400 million year old sea scorpions.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You misunderstand, crab blood will be cheaper if people are allowed to farm them instead of catching them from the sea.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. The only thing that changed is that we only harvest some of their blood instead of all, then release them instead of outright killing them.

        [...]
        This isn't painful for them is it...? Please

        Depends how you define pain but generally people consider the encoding of noxious stimuli to be pain, so yes, they do. It's not possible to determine how they process this stimuli though. To make matters worse, the procedure I described above isn't very good. At least half of them die shortly after the procedure anyway, and many more have an incredibly difficult time reproducing even if they survive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this how Gatorade is made?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously not, Gatorade is made from gators, dumbass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >each contributing one third of their blood, before being returned to the ocean
        I guess that's more ethical... can they even survive after such an ordeal though?

      • 2 months ago
        death to israel.

        >all this horseshoe crab suffering for a vaccine that doesnt work

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't work
          Ohh don't worry. It works. Not the way you think it does though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope aliens find us cute otherwise humanity is in for a one way trip to the Blood Farm

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We know for a fact that they would at least find us smart.
          If we're the smartest things in our entire solar system, we've got to at least be like... monkey-level compared to whatever is advanced enough to reach us. Maybe not chimp or gorilla -level intelligence, but if we are at least at the point where we can respond to commands and relay basic trivial information or create little silly doodles and clay sculptures compared to what they can do, they would probably have just enough sympathy to not completely eradicate us like we would do if we ever got the eco-friendly green light to eradicate ticks.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/fcLawtS.jpg

            I hope aliens find us cute otherwise humanity is in for a one way trip to the Blood Farm

            My mind goes with roadside picnic when these situations come up. I don't believe anything that can travel across the stars would care about us at all more than we care about ants. But at least like ants we are a very sturdy system that can probably handle aliens "stepping on our nest" if that ever happens.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ants will be fine if you step on their nest. Now if you build a highroad over it they are fucked. The stelar equivalent would be the entire Solar System being wiped and we won’t have any idea who or why this is happening. The aliens have no idea about us and are just building a galactic fast transport system. The possibility of life on Earth would be as important to them as the possibility of an anthill in the place the highroad will be built.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            eich one is the smartest bug in your garden

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/jVZFh2M.jpg

        When was the last time you thanked a horseshoe crab for the jab?

        This isn't painful for them is it...? Please

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you donated blood before? It really doesn't hurt much

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you donated blood before? It really doesn't hurt much

          No. The only thing that changed is that we only harvest some of their blood instead of all, then release them instead of outright killing them.

          [...]
          Depends how you define pain but generally people consider the encoding of noxious stimuli to be pain, so yes, they do. It's not possible to determine how they process this stimuli though. To make matters worse, the procedure I described above isn't very good. At least half of them die shortly after the procedure anyway, and many more have an incredibly difficult time reproducing even if they survive.

          Their heads are removed you blind retards.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            theyll grow back

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            dumbass

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this sound like a plausible explanation for alien abduction of humans.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What a cruel job

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So that’s how they make romulan ale..

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are all of the big ants drinking blue monster energy drinks

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >w-what are we doing on the beach anon?
    >*pomf*

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kabuto

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dinos are said to be related to birds
    >"DINOS HAVE BEAKS AND FEATHERS!"
    >horseshoe crab literally surviving hundreds of millions of years
    >"we have no idea how these ancient bugs looked like, it could have dicks for legs for all we know..."

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are those grey-green things its guts or its babies?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gills

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what a nice doggy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not a meme.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a meme.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a little fella. Horseshoe crabs are still a very important part of oceanic ecosystems.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    okay but what does it taste like

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like a wet salty spider made of rubber that a crab farted on.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that was overly descriptive and disgusting, thanks

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        probably more similar to tarantula which taste like lobster

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What an overdesigned pos, I can't believe all animals used to look so silly

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool shrimp

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Where did the giant come from?
    Checkmate, alttheists.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      From collective animal and human thought energy

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Possibly, I think it may be a creature of Poseidon though

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I now believe it to be a creation of divinity even more

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would divinity create a bug like that? Where did the divinity originate from?
      Why a fucking fruit and talking snake?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yaweh found breathing legs so funny that all arachnids got majorly nerfed. That 8 Legged Freaks movie was misinformation, 2 foot spiders would only assist us humans in culling the pitbull population. Maybe a few hobos for house price's sake.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shalom.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >according to atheists this thing just happened to evolve

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a deity exists who would choose to create such a thing
      the ultimate nightmare

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you didnt see my source code if think think its a nightmare

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fuck off from this board

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You do realize that by acting like this you're just giving the rest of us, & more importantly Our Lord & Saviour, a bad name, right?

        Bro the cornea just evolved spontaneously and completely in order to ensure that the creature it appeared in didn't instantly die off because of the extra energy expenditure a half-formed trait would take to maintain, being that it would only become useful to the creature once it functioned, would make it less fit for survival than it's peers. IT JUST MAKES SENSE GUYS DONT QUESTION IT

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Cells reacting to outside stimuli on any level is basically magic.
          >Blisters are also a magical occurrence.
          >Zits, too, are sorcery.
          >These things happened on timescales I can't imagine, so I refuse to believe it did.
          >Even though there are plentiful extant examples of varying developmental stages of complexity of eyes.
          >t. Dr. Banjo

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You people cannot separate different body plans from the concept of "more" or "less evolved" features. You are slotting body planned specifically designed to function perfectly in their roles and assigning arbitrary values to them, as if a single light sensing cell is somehow worse that a complex eye across all species. Your argument is cyclical because you use the theory to prove the theory, instead of using observation and basic logic.

            To address the evolutionist point of slowly accumulating evolution, I would like you to provide ONE example of a newly evolved trait created in a lab setting. The pressures of natural selection have been demonstrated, using the concepts of Mendelian genetics to amplify and shift traits across populations, but speciation had never been demonstrated in a lab setting. You need real proof, and you don't have it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your failure to understand the element of random mutations alongside natural (or unnatural) selection sickens me. Once again, I think you're not thinking in terms of the necessary timescales for a
              >newly evolved trait in a lab setting.
              Selective breeding helps speed things up in a sense, but it's only going to work so fast. What do you consider a trait? All members of a group of the species being albino? Dogs with a squamate-like posture?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >not thinking in terms of the necessary timescales for a
                evolved trait in a lab setting
                If you can't actually demonstrate evolution, how can it be proven? You are basically saying "Bro, it goes so slow you actually cannot observe it". That isn't an argument. Somehow, evolutionists are in a quantum state of believing that evolution is both "to slow to observe" and objectively provable.

                The argument of evolution being possible because of the sheer timescale it takes place on is a copout. Unless you can address the previous point, it doesn't make sense. If it still doesn't make sense to you we can move into a hypothetical

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that we can selectively breed animals for certain traits should prove to you the basic concept that evolution would work. It's just that the emergent traits are picked based on successful survival and breeding over millennia rather than over a few generations' worth of human preference.
                Otherwise, suggest a more reasonable and likely explanation for the reasonably complete evolutionary paths we have for many extant animal types. One with more evidence than evolution based on selective pressures, that isn't just magic.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's just that the emergent traits are picked based on successful survival and breeding over millennia rather than over a few generations' worth of human preference.
                We can't get from single cells to amphibious creature, etc. by selecting for existing traits. For that to happen, new, effective traits need to emerge, which has not been demonstrated in any observed setting. Selecting for traits in dogs and other domesticated animals is only amplifying the expression, not creating new traits which are necessary for macro-evolution.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Once again, random mutations are a thing. If they weren't, then all animals today would be the same as all animals ever.
                Imagine you're rolling a million-sided die, or many dice, and a dozen or so of those faces are new traits. To land enough of those dice on the same faces (and enough times to match pairs or better) requires either a lot of dice and a very long time to roll them in, or impossible luck. What you're asking for is the latter.
                If that doesn't work for you, explain how previous species existed. Explain how or why the current animals that exist are the animals that currently exist. There are so, so many things that are not observable to us in our short lives or lab conditions, we often have to theorise probable causes based on the evidence we do have. I'd understand the rejection of this concept if there was an alternative that wasn't literally Deus Ex Machina.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Alright then, see picrel. Webbed hands/feet on a human would be emergent, yes? If we bred those humans with webbed hands/feet only with others possessing the same trait, their offspring would be more likely to have webbed hands/feet would they not? Which would probably make them better at swimming.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The argument of evolution being possible because of the sheer timescale it takes place on is a copout.
                If you're also disregarding the fossil evidence of life becoming specialised and adapting, I assume you also have problems with plate tectonics and geology in general, given that many of these things cannot be recreated in lab conditions or in a feasible timescale?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you're also disregarding the fossil evidence of life becoming specialised and adapting
                Fossil evidence shows increased diversification of species over time, sure, but it doesn't prove evolution. You are just assuming that evolution is true, and slotting data into that view. You haven't proved it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            eyeballs are basically just zits when you think about it, yeah, thank science man

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Look at the theorised formation of the eye here

              https://i.imgur.com/cuZjXoc.jpg

              [...]
              Bro the cornea just evolved spontaneously and completely in order to ensure that the creature it appeared in didn't instantly die off because of the extra energy expenditure a half-formed trait would take to maintain, being that it would only become useful to the creature once it functioned, would make it less fit for survival than it's peers. IT JUST MAKES SENSE GUYS DONT QUESTION IT

              I'm referring to the humor developing in the closed chamber. A blister would've probably been a more accurate comparison, but my point was that skin (a layer of cells) being reactive (and potentially protecting itself), whether to photosensitivity or something else, should not be beyond the realms of imagination. That's the basis for the eye's beginnings.
              Not the most elegant comparison to make, but then again, arguing with retards does my fucking head in.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bro the cornea just evolved spontaneously

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do realize that by acting like this you're just giving the rest of us, & more importantly Our Lord & Saviour, a bad name, right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Judging from the reply, it appears to be a bot.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's always good to hear takes from domesticated white sheep about the true nature of the world. Makes you feel... Less hopeless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know how bad it really gets

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he believes evolution and theism are incompatible.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >according to god fags, and invisible flying garden gnome created this by speaking magic words in hebrew

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Atheists and Godfags are both retarded. The idea of evolution / the universe spawning out of nowhere and the idea of a skydaddy engineering all of this from the very start are both extraordinary ideas that we won't ever be able to verify. It's useless to pick a side.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no one said that evolution spawned out of nowhere

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you’re an Atheist if you believe in evolution
      Wrong.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A relique from a time when animals still were cool

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just think, if/when humans master genetic engineering what kind of crazy thing would you invent? I want an animal plant hybrid capable of creating any food I want then cooking the food it's self.

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