Harris hawks, already being overbred in captivity. They are awful when improperly imprinted tho, but I’d love to see a morph coloration. So far there have been none that I know of that are born pibald melaninistic or albino. Very small genetic pool to work with they are only found in the Sonoran desert. They are a great falconry bird, but domesticating them may just turn them into glorified chickens. They are also sensitive to cold weather. After all this time breeding them in the UK and America I’m shocked that none of them have hatched out in a different color. Maybe they have and we don’t know the falconry community is super tight lipped and they love to gatekeep everything they can. Sad really lots of stupid stuff goes on and even though they claim to want to keep the sport alive they make it insufferable for a lot of people that genuinely love hunting and hawking.
It’s only a matter of time before a captive bred hawk or falcon is born with “frizzled” feathers, or some type of weird genetic recessive trait. Raptors seem to be extremely tolerant of inbreeding with few recessive traits that show up if any at all. Even hybrid raptors seem to be genetically healthy enough, if not mentally unsound for most falconry purposes. The future of falconry seems very uncertain and may come down to the treatment of the birds themselves. The us government has proven to make irrational and poor decisions when it comes to the environment and wildlife in general, following emotion or bribery rather than doing the right thing. The domestication of a species of hawk may throw the whole thing in chaos. Most falconers I know won’t give up the sport even if it was made illegal. They would do it on pain of death, that’s how fanatical they are. A bird that shows any signs of domestication like the foxes would be huge. The way these bird imprint would be impossible for selection though. You’d have to hack them out or leave them in the chamber for a long time without human contact and see if you can judge which ones are more feral or not. A long and expensive process .
They were. Go pick up a wild sand cat if you disagree.
Cats are so genetically fucked by humans they think their owner is their mother. Only SOME dogs are that far gone. The stronger willed breeds just see you as a packmate, not their parent.
petfags are mentally ill
why can't you people just appreciate animals where they belong? not everything needs to be made into a retarded mindbroken abomination
thats a bit better than a wolf cub being eaten alive by hawks because it stayed in the open 5 seconds too long, and humans are able to just not breed deformed dogs, but nature will always be brutal and torture everything it's made of alive because killing stuff before you eat it is a waste of calories.
the entire bible is a just so story and everything in it conveniently justifies hebrew presence in canaan, hebrew domination of canaan, and everything hebrews do, while demonizing everything else everyone else in canaan does.
i'm pretty sure if you asked another religion they'd say domestic animals are just the descendants of animals we got along with and leave it at that. meanwhile the hebes were like "everything we do was commanded by god and is unquestionable. we're taking over your country by the way". that's all they've ever been like, self-justifying invaders.
yes it's a story a lot of people know about it because it was spread widely
that's just humans work
infact that's how many animals work, either that breed their predators out
if indians spread hinduism to the west when they weren't an utter shithole, i imagine you wouldn't bitch about that
not sayin i'm not sick of christfags spreadin their shit everywhere on this site recently either but frankly i'm sick of atheists about as much; at least they're not as bad as in the olden days, genuinely managed to be annoying than christians which is impressive cause they had the monopoly for a long while
i'm pretty sure god didn't domesticate shit, infact there's a part of the bible where he asks a human to do it >inb4 it's just a figure of speech, autist
i know
Key to choosing a successful species to domesticate is >Eats something we don't want (like grass, bugs, etc.) >Willing to breed and grows up quickly (preferably doesn't have mating seasons or other breeding restrictions) >Isn't extremely deadly or extremely scared (just makes things much harder) >Easy to keep (e.g. marine mammals need a lot of water space) >Isn't endangered and easily available (because breeding an endangered species for the sake of domestication would put it at risk of the pet trade) >Needs an exploitable social structure, preferably with a hierarchy (like herds, packs, etc.)
>-Eats something we want (meat) >-Difficult to breed, choosy and has mating seasons >-Is deadly and/or skittish >-Hard to keep >-Endangered >+Has a social structure
The REAL criteria are
>Humans think it's cool, relate to it easily, and like giving it food >OR >Humans like eating it and don't want it to run away so much
Dogs are the exception that proves the rule. They were incredibly useful for nearly everything. Herding livestock, guarding homes, transporting goods and people, hunting animals the list goes on, and they have an extremely easy to exploit social system.
Cats basically domesticated themselves with little input from prehistoric people.
Isnt it interesting that out of millions of possible options for domestic carnivores, only 2 species were ever domesticated?
Isnr it interesting that out of millions of herbivores, only about a dozen were domesticated? Cows, chicken, pigs, horses, goats, sheep, alpaca & llama, rabbits, guineapigs, reindeer and probably smth I'm forgetting.
All of these animals were domesticated for a reason, for some kind of practical use beyond 'gyuh lookz kewl!!!'.
This is why foxes will never be domesticated. There's no point other than some idiots think it might be cool. It won't be, but it doesn't matter bevause it just isn't gonna happen.
I vote possums (particularly the Virginia opossum). They arent SUPER sociable, but they tolerate each other like cats it seems. They also breed like rats and eat basically whatever (although getting a good diet for one down is a bit tricky, nothing a good dose of $$capitalism$$ wouldn't fix). Only issue is longevity (4-5yrs max in captivity), but that can be selectively bred out (it's already happened to an insular population of Virginia opossums).
Raccoons are too smart for normal people. Retarded white women will give them treats when they start showing aggressive behavior because "It makes them stop being mean"
Nothing. It's not gonna happen. That whole Russian fox thing was a passion project of vanity that barely succeeded in making foxes only slightly more bearable to human company.
I'm now reading up on pet squids >Make sure the live prey is no more than one and a half times the length of the squid, as larger fish could be able to eat the squid.
Based squids, you can just feed them fish that are bigger than they are up until a certain point
In absolute numbers there are a lot of them but we don't have many species to choose from. I like my cat but after it dies I'm not gonna get a new cat for environmental reasons.
Badger or wolverines. Cute and playful but will castrate a burglar. Also smaller than dogs so they would be harder to hit when attacking and could have them in bigger numbers.
Deer.
Imagine having a deer that you walk like a dog/doesn't shid up the place and that actually listens and maybe can do basic stuff like sit on command. They already really really want to be our pets so I see no issue here. Also, it would solve the vegetarian pet issue for many people.
There are active deer farms/ranches working on it. Look up the North American Deer Farmers Association. Granted, they are mostly focused on breeding deer to be better livestock, not pets.
Parasites.
Black bears selectively bred to be about the size of very large dogs as adults, 100-150 pounds.
Harris hawks, already being overbred in captivity. They are awful when improperly imprinted tho, but I’d love to see a morph coloration. So far there have been none that I know of that are born pibald melaninistic or albino. Very small genetic pool to work with they are only found in the Sonoran desert. They are a great falconry bird, but domesticating them may just turn them into glorified chickens. They are also sensitive to cold weather. After all this time breeding them in the UK and America I’m shocked that none of them have hatched out in a different color. Maybe they have and we don’t know the falconry community is super tight lipped and they love to gatekeep everything they can. Sad really lots of stupid stuff goes on and even though they claim to want to keep the sport alive they make it insufferable for a lot of people that genuinely love hunting and hawking.
It’s only a matter of time before a captive bred hawk or falcon is born with “frizzled” feathers, or some type of weird genetic recessive trait. Raptors seem to be extremely tolerant of inbreeding with few recessive traits that show up if any at all. Even hybrid raptors seem to be genetically healthy enough, if not mentally unsound for most falconry purposes. The future of falconry seems very uncertain and may come down to the treatment of the birds themselves. The us government has proven to make irrational and poor decisions when it comes to the environment and wildlife in general, following emotion or bribery rather than doing the right thing. The domestication of a species of hawk may throw the whole thing in chaos. Most falconers I know won’t give up the sport even if it was made illegal. They would do it on pain of death, that’s how fanatical they are. A bird that shows any signs of domestication like the foxes would be huge. The way these bird imprint would be impossible for selection though. You’d have to hack them out or leave them in the chamber for a long time without human contact and see if you can judge which ones are more feral or not. A long and expensive process .
when you put it like that being a namefag sounds nice
except the naive part
i wanna be a bnuuy :v
Cats were never properly domesticated
They were. Go pick up a wild sand cat if you disagree.
Cats are so genetically fucked by humans they think their owner is their mother. Only SOME dogs are that far gone. The stronger willed breeds just see you as a packmate, not their parent.
There are mini-lions in africa that live in the jungle and will jump onto humans and play with them.
Apparently cats since they can't seem to figure out how to walk on a leash or do anything else
same homosexual or just the three guys in a discord at 5am (go to bed (i will too okay i know it's early))
obsession
Tigers, we're already almost there. There's more tigers in America then the rest of the wild combined.
petfags are mentally ill
why can't you people just appreciate animals where they belong? not everything needs to be made into a retarded mindbroken abomination
Who says where they belong? Are you god? Did you speak to god? Where is he now?
They belong where I want them to belong. If you have a problem with it eat lead.
holy cringe
this is what happens when humans play god
thats a bit better than a wolf cub being eaten alive by hawks because it stayed in the open 5 seconds too long, and humans are able to just not breed deformed dogs, but nature will always be brutal and torture everything it's made of alive because killing stuff before you eat it is a waste of calories.
Irrelevant cope
Not irrelevant in the slightest. You just don't have an argument besides
>I think animals are cooler this way than that way
you having a deformed wolf in your house has no bearing on wolf cubs suffering in nature dumbass
I don't have a deformed wolf in my house
irrelevant
pugs existing is irrelevant to the fact that the average pet has a better life than the average wolf
Pugs are one manmade horror that is totally optional. We don't have to do that. You could start a religious crusade against that easily.
All wild animals have shitty lives.
god literally gave man dominion over animals in genesis. cope
>b-because my israeli storybook said so!!1!
the entire bible is a just so story and everything in it conveniently justifies hebrew presence in canaan, hebrew domination of canaan, and everything hebrews do, while demonizing everything else everyone else in canaan does.
i'm pretty sure if you asked another religion they'd say domestic animals are just the descendants of animals we got along with and leave it at that. meanwhile the hebes were like "everything we do was commanded by god and is unquestionable. we're taking over your country by the way". that's all they've ever been like, self-justifying invaders.
yes it's a story a lot of people know about it because it was spread widely
that's just humans work
infact that's how many animals work, either that breed their predators out
if indians spread hinduism to the west when they weren't an utter shithole, i imagine you wouldn't bitch about that
not sayin i'm not sick of christfags spreadin their shit everywhere on this site recently either but frankly i'm sick of atheists about as much; at least they're not as bad as in the olden days, genuinely managed to be annoying than christians which is impressive cause they had the monopoly for a long while
i'm pretty sure god didn't domesticate shit, infact there's a part of the bible where he asks a human to do it
>inb4 it's just a figure of speech, autist
i know
Key to choosing a successful species to domesticate is
>Eats something we don't want (like grass, bugs, etc.)
>Willing to breed and grows up quickly (preferably doesn't have mating seasons or other breeding restrictions)
>Isn't extremely deadly or extremely scared (just makes things much harder)
>Easy to keep (e.g. marine mammals need a lot of water space)
>Isn't endangered and easily available (because breeding an endangered species for the sake of domestication would put it at risk of the pet trade)
>Needs an exploitable social structure, preferably with a hierarchy (like herds, packs, etc.)
>-Eats something we want (meat)
>-Difficult to breed, choosy and has mating seasons
>-Is deadly and/or skittish
>-Hard to keep
>-Endangered
>+Has a social structure
The REAL criteria are
>Humans think it's cool, relate to it easily, and like giving it food
>OR
>Humans like eating it and don't want it to run away so much
i use animar for both thing, stupid westelna.
Dogs are the exception that proves the rule. They were incredibly useful for nearly everything. Herding livestock, guarding homes, transporting goods and people, hunting animals the list goes on, and they have an extremely easy to exploit social system.
Cats basically domesticated themselves with little input from prehistoric people.
Isnt it interesting that out of millions of possible options for domestic carnivores, only 2 species were ever domesticated?
Isnr it interesting that out of millions of herbivores, only about a dozen were domesticated? Cows, chicken, pigs, horses, goats, sheep, alpaca & llama, rabbits, guineapigs, reindeer and probably smth I'm forgetting.
All of these animals were domesticated for a reason, for some kind of practical use beyond 'gyuh lookz kewl!!!'.
This is why foxes will never be domesticated. There's no point other than some idiots think it might be cool. It won't be, but it doesn't matter bevause it just isn't gonna happen.
I vote possums (particularly the Virginia opossum). They arent SUPER sociable, but they tolerate each other like cats it seems. They also breed like rats and eat basically whatever (although getting a good diet for one down is a bit tricky, nothing a good dose of $$capitalism$$ wouldn't fix). Only issue is longevity (4-5yrs max in captivity), but that can be selectively bred out (it's already happened to an insular population of Virginia opossums).
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That would be some next level shit. I'm not joking.
nice
Intelligence
I very much agree. They seem really smart.
Raccoons are too smart for normal people. Retarded white women will give them treats when they start showing aggressive behavior because "It makes them stop being mean"
Nothing. It's not gonna happen. That whole Russian fox thing was a passion project of vanity that barely succeeded in making foxes only slightly more bearable to human company.
defeatist mentality
Minipigs
frogs
Wypipo
Personally I'd like it if some meat animals were more domesticated. Emu, Rhea, Ostrich, Giraffe, Peacock, Flamingo, Gator, Catfish, Crawfish, etc.
i'm betting boars are pretty close or higher
Squid
I'm now reading up on pet squids
>Make sure the live prey is no more than one and a half times the length of the squid, as larger fish could be able to eat the squid.
Based squids, you can just feed them fish that are bigger than they are up until a certain point
Do we need more domestic animals? Those we have are already a lot of work.
Ok then we just replace cats with them. EZPZ
In absolute numbers there are a lot of them but we don't have many species to choose from. I like my cat but after it dies I'm not gonna get a new cat for environmental reasons.
Really only a handful of the ones we already have are giving use domestication problems.
hi
Crows
Seals
Armadillos
Your mom
Badger or wolverines. Cute and playful but will castrate a burglar. Also smaller than dogs so they would be harder to hit when attacking and could have them in bigger numbers.
Wolverines are smaller than dogs?? What kind of dogs are you around...
Obedient genetically engineered chimpanzees for home defense
Deer.
Imagine having a deer that you walk like a dog/doesn't shid up the place and that actually listens and maybe can do basic stuff like sit on command. They already really really want to be our pets so I see no issue here. Also, it would solve the vegetarian pet issue for many people.
This. I want a deer wife.
Hi /k, how things are going?
/K/ doesn't wife deer, they rape.
>/k/
that is not how you clear the table..................
There are active deer farms/ranches working on it. Look up the North American Deer Farmers Association. Granted, they are mostly focused on breeding deer to be better livestock, not pets.
>ip count didn't go up
Zebras just to make Blacks look bad lmaooo
Those roof Koeans had style. Not one of them looked like a slob.
Dude in yellow specifically looks quite cool
texans already did it
Taking =/= domestication
wrong
Domesticated is selectively breeding for affinity with humans.
Taming is making a wild animal bend to your will without his bloodline ever being altered to begin with.
Those are the horse based Zebras. She's basically cheating.
Try that with the donk based ones.
Fucking giga chads all over.
Not domesticate, but we should give pongos full citizenship rights
And even let them pay taxes
that hasn't worked out well so far with the other apes we've given citizenship to
Only the rights, not the taxes
Every citizen has the same duties before the state. Pongos will be no different
What are they going to pay their taxes in? Banana? Palm oil?
They can work in exchange of money
They already give back to society with their mere presence
naggers.
Impossible. We've already tried.
it actually worked pretty good until we let them become feral again
no, you will fuck them.
they literally are too smart to be domesticated
scaly water doggo
I wish.