>we have all the technology necessary to bring a mammoth back from extinction
>we aren't doing it
what's the deal?
The zoo that has a woolly mammoth inside of it will immediately explode in popularity. This project is worth at least a couple hundred million in potential revenue.
Uuh, we don't have it though
waiting on the mammoth steaks and the high yield of ivory
Basedcientist would rather make rat babies from two male rats than actually do cool shit like that, welcome to the clownshow
>what's the deal?
We don't have all the technology necessary to bring back mammoths.
Anon they are already starting a project about that, where have you been?
We should make a man moth instead
this just looks like a normal elephant, are we even sure its a mammoth? lol
>are we even sure its a mammoth? lol
they are sure
we are unsure
Yes, it was definitely an elephant. The Eurasian steppe is well known for its abundance of elephants living in the frigid cold
guys I found this
https://colossal.com/mammoth/
https://theconversation.com/bringing-woolly-mammoths-back-from-extinction-might-not-be-such-a-bad-idea-ethicists-explain-167892
>ethicists
>we have all the technology necessary to bring a mammoth back from extinction
no
best we could do right now is an elephant with some mammoth genes, but not enough to cause a miscarriage.
I don’t think they could bring back a “pure” mammoth anyway, it’d have to be crossed with elephants since we don’t have any mammoths to use for incubation.
that's fine
and how much does it cost to bring them back
most of the hypothetical "cost" is probably inflated salaries to garden gnome scientists who do nothing at all aside from talk shit
If one or two guys had a solid understanding of the process and owned the operation the cost could probably be pretty low
what about overhead, testing, equipment
I am not going to lie and tell you I understand how this process works. But I can't imagine it would require that much bespoke equipment that the scientists who understand this process don't already have.
This isn't like designing an electric car or something where they have to build expensive devices and go through multiple prototypes, it's a one and done type deal. There's no scale here, nothing needs to be automated. The process just needs to work once.
If it is theoretically possible and the process is well understood, then I cannot imagine it costing a great deal of money.
throw the woolly mammoth genes we have into one of those gene duplication thingies, get some nice quality genes, splice that shit with an elephant sperm, inject into elephant pussy. case closed
>splice that shit with an elephant sperm, inject into elephant pussy
and if the sperm doesnt take, the baby miscarriages, the baby lives but doesnt survive, the baby is sterile, not to mention this all takes time, so you have to pay these people for all of this, thats the point of testing, and then once you get down, how long does novelty last
Animals will spontaneously abort babies that are too fucked up or different from the body’s expectations. I don’t know how different genetically mammoths are from elephants, but I would guess the biggest issue there is whether the baby would actually survive to birth. Do they have the same number of chromosomes? I’m guessing yes but I don’t know, that would be a major hurdle if they don’t
do great apes have the same number of chromosomes as humans?
Why has a gorilla human hybrid never been created in some russian lab?
imagine... a huge fucking ape with 80% of the intelligence of a human... it would be the perfect russian soldier
IIRC the Soviet Union actually did try to create gorilla/human hybrids once so you're actually closer to reality than you think. It was a failure (so far as we know, anyway, maybe their are Russian monkey men squirreled away in some abandoned lab) but I don't really recall the details of the project or how long it went on for.
>a huge fucking ape with 80% of the intelligence of a human
>do great apes have the same number of chromosomes as humans?
No, they don't. Chromosome count isn't the only thing which makes species genetically incompatible either.
Some species with a different number of chromosomes can cross breed, actually.
>This isn't like designing an electric car or something where they have to build expensive devices and go through multiple prototypes...
It kind of is like that, but worse.
First of all, your odds of getting a complete genome are low and sequencing it isn't going to be cheap. You can try and patch up any damage, but since you have no living examples, you don't even know what each gene does. I don't think we've got a good understanding of the elephant genome. We don't even have that great an understanding of the human one.
An organism isn't just genes. Those genes need a very specific environment to grow into an animal, and chances are that an elephant womb isn't an ideal environment to grow a mammoth. You're going to lose a lot of babies. Each of them requiring a long time inside one of the most expensive animals on Earth, possibly killing the mother in the process.
Then, if you manage to get to a live baby, it doesn't have a microbiome. Did you clone all the right bacteria? You might be able to make do with elephant bacteria, but no guarantee.
With some animals, once you've got that far you might be OK. But elephants are highly intelligent social animals. Will they accept a mammoth baby? Will the differences between the species make elephant socialization a disaster for a mammoth? Imagine a human baby being raised by chimps, or a chimp being raised by humans who know nothing about chimps. It's very unlikely to give you a mentally healthy creature.
>most of the cost is paying the few people who know how to do it
>if someone else knew how to do it and they wanted to get paid less it wouldn't cost as much
we have a genius here
About tree fiddy
THAT GODDAMN LOCH NESS MONSTER