Some amazing investigative reporting from animal rights activists has unveiled the truth behind gas chambers used in pig slaughtering. The hog industry says these chambers are "humane", "painless", and "stress-free" methods of slaughtering hogs, watch the footage and decide for yourself.
https://vimeo.com/775646991?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=119278090
I mean holy shit. That's pretty awful. The industry has been lying to everyone this whole time. The public, the USDA. Everyone.
Here's an article that goes into more detail:
https://www.wired.com/story/dex-pig-slaughterhouse-gas-chambers-videos/
didnt read any of this thread i just wanna call OP a homosexual for putting a warning in his homosexual thread
Don’t worry just help me overthrow the israelite globalist NWO and I’ll end this
Just like Hitler planned
You can't be a good person if you eat meat.
you can't be a good person if you don't eat meat
Fun fact most people who work in industrial animal produce farms say they hate their life and have a high divorce rate.
most people on 4 chan have the same statistics but I dont see u rallying to get rid of it.
>most grunt laborers in factory farms say their lot in life is that of a grunt laborer
damn bro really?
no way
next you'll tell me people don't enjoy working at McDonald's
the longest lived people aren’t vegan or “carnist”
they eat less than half as much meat ad people think is the minimum.
less than a pound a week. no red meat, no processed meat. the diet of a very unlucky fisherman.
stop eating pork. stop eating steak. these foods are the west’s TCM flavored dog steak. magical warming food for imaginary manly energy.
its fine to eat those once a week at most, the problem is having it every day
Why eat them at all? They’re wasteful foods and unhealthy in any amount. Wasteful matters as long as the human population is over its natural limit of less than 4 billion.
>The industry has been lying to everyone this whole time
wtf? murder isn't humane?
I will not watch the video because I love piggies
It's difficult to care about any of this. Have you seen what nature itself does to these things we call herbivores? Every predator practically tortures them to death, rip and tear them to pieces alive and so much more. These things are even worse than their feral cousins because they were bred to a level where they no longer have a place in Nature. They are like stateless citizens that only exist to serve humans. Either we keep killing and eating them or we "mercifully" retire them of the purpose they were created for by rendering them all extinct.
They’re kind of shitty citizens. It’s like paying a moron to hold a useless customer service job that consumes more resources than it generates.
If pets are consorts, livestock are indians in call centers.
Employ a silent killing method in front of an unsuspecting group and see how they like it being pointed at them and how many corpses it takes
For a few seconds I thought this was a /misc/ joke...
Maybe if the pigs weren't such fricking spastics they could've died relatively peacefully instead of slamming into eachother and against metal barriers.
They would be using ramrods or electric stunners if you weenies hadn’t complained so much. YOU caused this. Also this is leagues more humane than kosher and halal slaughter which I don’t recommend looking up.
:c
Buy some carbon dioxide and try inhaling it. I did this while I was trying to make carbogen, a mixture of co2 and o2 that can make you hallucinate. I had some success but on most attempts it was very difficult and painful to use. If you put too much co2 into it it's fricking painful (you want maybe 50/50 co2/o2).
Inhaling pure co2 would be even more painful.
Killing creatures with co2 is not humane, nowhere near. Try inhaling a balloon of co2... it's fricking painful. Now imagine killing yourself with co2... nightmare.
Argon would be better... more expensive though. Point is, the gas needs to be heavier than air, both co2 and argon are.
Nitrous oxide (laughing gas) would be pretty humane as it's an anaesthetic. During that experimental phase when I tried carbogen I used to do nitrous a lot, was very fun.
If you kill mice with co2 they show massive agitation.
Yea... anytime someone shows you killing creatures with co2 be aware the animals are suffering, big time. co2 makes your body system think it's suffocating (that's why carbogen works, the body releases excess oxygen, while the high level of oxygen in carbogen (50%, vs 20% in normal air) provides your body with such an oxygen overdose that you hallucinate). The co2 induced feeling of suffocation fricking hurts.
The end. Case closed. Please could killing creatures with co2 be outlawed and these threads can go away.
That was actually pretty quick. Definitely seems better than most other methods I've seen.
It's not that bad. They died within a minute.
I love dying pigs
Their squeals are music to my ears
You are a Black person and you need to die painfully.
Worked in a pig farm.
Honestly my favourite job yet. I did come home everyday smelling like shit, waking up at 3AM was annoying and some of the coworkers were buttholes.
But otherwise, loved it. If I still had my notes with all the schedules it would be like this:
>4AM, prepare milk for the piglets and feed them
>5-6AM scrape the shit in the piglets kennel
>6AM Sows feeding time, give them and their piglets vitamins and feed, scrape the shit as the sows wake up and get fed through the automatic feeder
>7AM some free time, go to the office to have a coffee, read a book etc...
>8AM Go srape/wash away (depended on the temperature of the day) shit from the not-yet-pregnant sows hall
>9AM Go feed piglets and scrape their shit again
>10AM Go feed the momma pigs and their piglets, scrape their shit, again. (Yes, a lot of shit scraping)
>11AM all work done for today and all thats left is to wait for the afternoon shift to come in and update them about what happened that day and I could go home.
There we a lot of cats, as rats were common (hunted them with a plank), my 2 favourite cats was a small black cat I called Lil' homie and a Cripple for being a bit crippled (cattarct in one eye and fricked up ear), they both smelled constanly like shit.
Yes, I did have to deal with my fair share of dead pigs. The piglets were easy, just chuckem in a bucket and done. When swines died that was a problem, they are heavy, and you have to drag them outside so you can actually load them up on the tractor.
Pic related
That sounds comfy, if you can get used to the smell of shit. I shovelled horse shit and that was great as I could think about other stuff while I did that.
That's actually pretty fast? Better than the usual knife.
I visited a few farms and the smell is not the problem. For me it was the fricking pig screams all the time. They scream for everything. I'm pretty sure that people with a full time job there still hear their screams at home.
cute pig reaction
pigshit reeks a lot worse than horse shit
I’m not going to pretend I don’t enjoy eating meat but there is no such thing as humanely killing an animal. Killing is killing
Killing is bad enough that one should at least avoid unnecessary suffering.
If you think its suffering matters (like it has a mind to perceive suffering at all) then killing it is also wrong because it can surely anticipate death or at least want to stay alive.
Reminds me of a former slaughterhouse in the middle of Europe. Pigs ate the plastic wrapper from over-dense food pellets, pigs ate chiquita stickers from rotten bananas, pigs ate the content of a bag from a vacuum cleanger, pigs ate other pigs.
Modern man who eats meat on a daily basis: I don't care if they eat waste. I want my Schnitzel!
btw: The slaughterhouse didn't close because they fed the pigs wrong. But because they hired romanian slaves and because of >muh corona.
feeding livestock actual sewage is a lot better than bulldozing the amazon to feed them perfectly good government subsidized grain.
Question: Do these gas chambers have wooden doors?
No, that wouldn’t wo…
That didn't look bad at all. Much less inhumane than shooting them or chainsawing them in front of each other.
If shooting them in front of each other bothers them, they comprehend their own mortality and you need to acknowledge that farming them for food is thus torture. Constant torture. They all care and learned helplessness might slightly hide it for a few.
Chickens don’t seem to mind because they don’t understand death, just alarm calls to get away. I eat chicken. You can absolutely kill them in front of each other if the meal to be remains relaxed til the end. Pigs? Dogs? Nah, they freak. Crows? They freak. Don’t kill crows. Deer? Deer do not care. I’ve experienced it first hand shooting human-fed neighborhood pests. Cattle? It’s 60/40 for NPCs/souled beings.
The more soul the more delicious the animal.
Can confirm. Ate a long finned pilot whale heart and steak during my vacation on the Faeroe Islands. 9/10 would recommend with thyme and rosemary.
I think its the shot sound scaring them
captive bolt pistols and silenced subsonic firearms do not produce a startling sound
don't care, still eating salami and prosciutto
i watch vids like these for a laugh
>WARNING: GRAPHIC
Where do you think we are, you dipshit ledditgay?
a worksafe board
I hear that they kill 6 million pigs every 5 years
It's more like 4 every second.
>kill 6 million pigs
I guess that's one way of achieving Royalty
>gas chambers
Still running with that, huh?
eating meat is demonic
Demons don't exist
And yet the flavor of some grilled meat is heavenly.
Maybe that's why some animals eat other animals. Unless all carnivores, omnivores, and many 'herbivores' are demonic too.... Hmmm
>horse_eats_chick.jpg
>demons would never tempt me with carnal pleasure!
Why are horses so fricking moronic? Like seriously, no other animal is this stupid and soulless. Now a donkey on the otherhand, I can get behind that.
Schizo alert
Only with pigs. Keep halal folks
And I am Satan
>implying there is any way to efficiently raise and kill higher lifeforms in a factory setting
Why do the meat industry so desperately cling to this absurd notion? They'll just keep getting "exposed". Do they really believe that people will stop eating meat if the truth is revealed? Most people already know the truth and it's fine. Cowards just putting water on the vegans wheels tbh.
Yes
just wait until, thwarted by the absurd labor and materials costs of vat meat, we start raising literally brainless cows. not for the cruelty but for the ease and the ability to cleanly and easily vertically farm megafauna. why build a vat for your meat when every living organism is already a vat of meat?
No, every single living thing derives mutrients from eating "meat" veganism is a satanic human creation.
>WARNING: GRAPHIC
You need to go back
some nice yellow men told me that fear and pain make the meat taste better
It doesn't the adreniline makes the meat tough and taste like it was marinated in piss.
So that's why they cover everything in so many spices?
I thought the problem was more with how they live before they die
>i really care about everything this thing experiences but if you cut that off i'm just gonna be okay with it if it's quick alright?
People who adopt nu-morals like this have always been fricking morons, really
There isn't even a basis for it, it's total made up nonsense meant to sound compassionate but it isn't. Change it over to an animal they do value and see how they suddenly reconsider "as long as they're slaughtered humanely".
Personally I believe pigs deserve as much suffering as possible.
We get it a pig ate your candy once and you're still mad
>Personally I believe pigs deserve as much suffering as possible.
No, you.
>Change it over to an animal they do value and see how they suddenly reconsider "as long as they're slaughtered humanely".
what? so if I like dogs, then according to you, I wish that dogs were slowly tortured to death instead of killed quickly? wtf are you even saying?
>Personally I believe pigs deserve as much suffering as possible.
buddy, be careful what you wish for...
Edgy fricking homosexual.
i could really go for some bacon right now
Because they are using god knows what to gas pigs to death, or setting up elaborate rube goldberg esque killing machines that do all sorts of shit to do what a fricking boltgun can do in seconds. I don't care at all about how 'humane' it is, but I do care about them seasoning my future lunch with Zyklon B, or finding an arrowhead in my ribs from the roman scorpian ballista they opted for that week.
>Zyklon B
They can just use CO2 you dumbass
There's a video of pigs getting electrocuted by the brain.
Less than one second and they're braindead, then the neck gets sliced up to remove the blood while the heart is still pumping.
Based
This thread is fricking creepy. Vegans are fricking psychopaths
imagine if that moron who put the camera in the chamber got stuck
could go for some "vegan" bacon right now if you know what i mean
>could go for some "vegan" bacon right now if you know what i mean
And they said carnism wasn't cannibalism...
if its on the plate ill eat it
has to be cooked though, I don't frick with vegetables
unless they're "those" types of vegetables
We only eat herbivores
Vegans count since they're trying to force a speciation event. From the baseline humans you're used to, to homosexual sapiens glycine max (known for their larger, more flexible, self lubricating anus adapted to passing frequent and massive stools from a plant-based diet, among other things).
In the article you can read that they did almost get stuck in there while inserting the camera. The chamber was filling up with gas (for some reason I can't remember) and they had to climb out of there while almost passing out. Scary stuff.
>The industry
There are humane operations. There are inhumane ones. Some animals are fed nothing but grain that humans could eat. Some animals are fed waste and inedible plants grown on land that could never support crops.
But tell me, why would you eat an animal if you cared about how it died? You need less than 6 ounces of meat every day to survive without relying on destructive industrial systems (globalized economy, supplement industry, etc). Eggs and fish more than count, and are actually slightly better for you.
If you care how an animal dies maybe you don't want it to die in the first place? Would you eat a human "as long as they were humanely slaughtered"? If you value their suffering why not their life? It's nonsense, a psychopath's attempt at approximating the morals of a fully fledged human being who has emotional and spiritual perception.
>you don't want it to die in the first place?
yeah they would live forever if only we spare their beatiful lifes
>If you care how an animal dies maybe you don't want it to die in the first place?
Quality of the meat depends on that too. If you kill it before it has time to stress it won't taint the meat
>Adrenaline released by stress before slaughter uses up glycogen, which means there's not enough lactic acid produced postmortem. This affects different kind of meat in different ways, but in general it'll be tough, tasteless, and high in pH, and will go bad quicker than unstressed meat.
Plus obviously you kill to "survive" not to derive sadistic pleasure
If you kill to survive then you don't have to kill many large animals, especially not pigs. Farming things like pigs, specifically grain fed pigs, is a detriment to your survival. Pigs spread some of the worst zoonotic diseases out of any livestock animal and are less feed efficient than chickens (which can eat the same shit if you don't care about raising them past their "expiration") for meat that is significantly less healthy.
Less feed efficient means less cost effective which translates to higher price for the meat. Your argument might only be considered in terms of the impact on the environment since the demand is there. If meat tasted Identically and had the same properties, then people would surely abandon pig farming practice. As to diseases, there are meds for it which actually create whole other problems so I agree with that point
Less feed efficient equals less food. Period. You don't have to give a shit about anything else. You put in more food, you get less food. You put in even more food, you finally get the same amount of food. Chickens are just better all around.
And really, 80% of the pig kind of tastes like shit. I can eat a whole chicken. Not a whole pig.
Why would I care about any of this in the first place?
>You need less than 6 ounces of meat every day to survive
I'd like to do a little more than survive
>Eggs and fish more than count, and are actually slightly better for you.
Dubious. Even so, this isn't a reason to not eat meat.
>If you care how an animal dies maybe you don't want it to die in the first place?
No, sorry. I want it to die, and I want to minimise its suffering in doing so. The end result is necessary, the means are not.
>Would you eat a human "as long as they were humanely slaughtered"?
Humans are not in the same category as animals when it comes to me eating things.
>I'd like to do a little more than survive
if you eat too much meat you do the opposite. you die earlier.
>Dubious. Even so, this isn't a reason to not eat meat.
objectively true, and fish are meat anyways.
>No, sorry. I want it to die, and I want to minimise its suffering in doing so. The end result is necessary, the means are not.
at least you're honest that you don't value its life and just don't like hearing screaming. most people aren't.
>Humans are not in the same category as animals when it comes to me eating things.
they will be if you get hungry enough
>If you value their suffering why not their life?
Yes.
Oops, I meant:
>Would you eat a human "as long as they were humanely slaughtered"?
Yes.